Meeting Title: Brainforge Team Member Introduction Date: 2026-02-26 Meeting participants: Elizah Joy, Amber Lin
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1 00:01:58.860 ⇒ 00:02:01.100 Elizah Joy: Hi, Amber. Can you hear me?
2 00:02:02.060 ⇒ 00:02:03.050 Amber Lin: Hello!
3 00:02:03.810 ⇒ 00:02:05.410 Elizah Joy: Hi, how are you?
4 00:02:05.890 ⇒ 00:02:07.180 Amber Lin: I’m good!
5 00:02:10.639 ⇒ 00:02:12.379 Amber Lin: What time is it for you?
6 00:02:12.880 ⇒ 00:02:15.909 Elizah Joy: Oh, it’s actually 1AM, let me just…
7 00:02:15.910 ⇒ 00:02:17.160 Amber Lin: Oh, my.
8 00:02:17.610 ⇒ 00:02:20.689 Elizah Joy: Let me just connect my camera.
9 00:02:33.700 ⇒ 00:02:36.230 Elizah Joy: Okay, hi. Hi, how are you?
10 00:02:36.230 ⇒ 00:02:36.740 Amber Lin: Aww.
11 00:02:36.740 ⇒ 00:02:42.069 Elizah Joy: Thank you so much for hopping. I know you’re busy, because I did see your calendar.
12 00:02:43.700 ⇒ 00:02:46.149 Elizah Joy: I think I’m interrupting your Eden words.
13 00:02:46.150 ⇒ 00:02:56.119 Amber Lin: No, it’s okay. I’m at the end of one section of work, so I wanted to check, as I know we’ve been trying to schedule for a long time.
14 00:02:56.410 ⇒ 00:03:05.019 Elizah Joy: Yeah, thank you so much, and I do appreciate your time. And yeah, it’s actually my first time seeing you on video as well.
15 00:03:05.020 ⇒ 00:03:11.410 Amber Lin: I know, because, like, when we have the company meetings, I am so tired, I don’t turn on my video.
16 00:03:12.880 ⇒ 00:03:17.460 Amber Lin: But I had a question. Elena, what do you do for Brave Forge, exactly?
17 00:03:17.980 ⇒ 00:03:31.320 Elizah Joy: Oh, I do, operations manager. Yeah, I do work closely… I do work closely with Rika, so Rika, he’s based in the Philippines, right? So I’m currently based in the Philippines as well.
18 00:03:32.030 ⇒ 00:03:34.370 Amber Lin: Mmm… okay.
19 00:03:34.560 ⇒ 00:03:35.799 Amber Lin: Oh, I see.
20 00:03:36.330 ⇒ 00:03:40.280 Amber Lin: How do you feel so far? Do you like it here? I’m gonna…
21 00:03:40.280 ⇒ 00:03:50.529 Elizah Joy: Yeah, actually, I do love it, love working here, and it’s been, like, I gotta say, a bit challenging, because I think it’s been my third month.
22 00:03:51.040 ⇒ 00:03:53.200 Elizah Joy: Yeah, I’m about to hit my third month.
23 00:03:54.050 ⇒ 00:04:05.250 Elizah Joy: By the end of, like, first week of March. It’s been, how can I say, a bit challenging in a sense, like, for example, the pace that…
24 00:04:05.250 ⇒ 00:04:14.209 Elizah Joy: operations work, it’s kind of fast to what I’ve been used to, so I think that’s one of the challenges that I do…
25 00:04:14.250 ⇒ 00:04:30.269 Elizah Joy: had when… when I started working with Brainforge, but Rika, he’s been very… Rika’s been very helpful and very, supportive with me along the way. So, yeah, it’s fun, and it’s… it’s nice that I’ve…
26 00:04:30.390 ⇒ 00:04:32.889 Elizah Joy: been, you know, I get to grow.
27 00:04:33.190 ⇒ 00:04:35.380 Elizah Joy: My skills as well.
28 00:04:35.860 ⇒ 00:04:42.810 Amber Lin: That’s fun! Okay, what have you worked before? Is this your… this is not your first job, right?
29 00:04:42.810 ⇒ 00:04:43.650 Elizah Joy: Oh, yeah.
30 00:04:44.400 ⇒ 00:04:47.580 Elizah Joy: I was also an operations manager before.
31 00:04:47.690 ⇒ 00:05:01.959 Elizah Joy: Yeah, but it’s, how can I say, it’s a different industry, so not… it’s not an AI and data company. Actually, it’s a real estate industry, so the pace is not as fast as what we have here.
32 00:05:02.080 ⇒ 00:05:03.320 Elizah Joy: So, yeah.
33 00:05:04.040 ⇒ 00:05:05.810 Amber Lin: I see, really cool.
34 00:05:06.360 ⇒ 00:05:13.209 Amber Lin: Okay, I think I would love… if you have anything about… questions about my work, you can ask.
35 00:05:13.210 ⇒ 00:05:14.559 Elizah Joy: Yeah, yeah, I should…
36 00:05:14.560 ⇒ 00:05:17.550 Amber Lin: If not, I can wanna… I wanna ask about, like, personal stuff.
37 00:05:17.550 ⇒ 00:05:18.220 Elizah Joy: Personal life.
38 00:05:18.220 ⇒ 00:05:19.120 Amber Lin: Because.
39 00:05:19.120 ⇒ 00:05:29.119 Elizah Joy: Yeah, I think, let’s start with… I did see that your… I think with the meetup that you did, I think that’s the LA.
40 00:05:29.300 ⇒ 00:05:29.860 Elizah Joy: Meet up?
41 00:05:30.760 ⇒ 00:05:33.040 Elizah Joy: Alright, so where are you based, currently?
42 00:05:33.040 ⇒ 00:05:48.249 Amber Lin: I’m in LA, and I think we have quite a few folks around here. We have, on the marketing and design side, Hannah’s here, Luke is here, and then Kyla, who’s on HR, who also joined.
43 00:05:49.260 ⇒ 00:05:55.110 Amber Lin: It’s also here. So, we have, like, 4 people in this area.
44 00:05:55.320 ⇒ 00:05:56.130 Amber Lin: Yes.
45 00:05:56.770 ⇒ 00:06:02.729 Elizah Joy: Yeah, that’s cool. And then, what do you, like, love the most? Like…
46 00:06:03.000 ⇒ 00:06:10.099 Elizah Joy: with working at Brainforge. I’m interested to know that, because I think you’ve been here for a long time. For how many?
47 00:06:11.180 ⇒ 00:06:18.620 Amber Lin: I’ve been here almost a year now, so it’s a few days, and then it’ll be a full year. I think that I really…
48 00:06:18.620 ⇒ 00:06:35.080 Amber Lin: I really like the range of things I’m able to do, because I started off being a project manager. I think when you joined… about when you joined, I started doing data work for them, so I started doing more analysis stuff, looking into data more.
49 00:06:35.080 ⇒ 00:06:41.270 Amber Lin: So I… I really like that I’m able to transition between the work, and…
50 00:06:41.940 ⇒ 00:06:54.159 Amber Lin: for example, if you ever were interested, if you wanted to go into, say, go to market, you want to go into design, I think they’re happy for you to make that transition as well, so I like that flexibility.
51 00:06:54.720 ⇒ 00:06:56.280 Amber Lin: And…
52 00:06:56.560 ⇒ 00:07:10.590 Amber Lin: Two, I think the people’s really nice. I like these people, and I like working with them. And I think third, I would say, working remote is very nice. Did you always.
53 00:07:10.590 ⇒ 00:07:11.040 Elizah Joy: whisper.
54 00:07:11.040 ⇒ 00:07:15.150 Amber Lin: Remote, or did you… did you work, in person?
55 00:07:15.830 ⇒ 00:07:25.169 Elizah Joy: Yeah, I did, I haven’t worked in person, actually. I did… when I started, I did work, on a remote basis, because when I was in.
56 00:07:25.170 ⇒ 00:07:26.100 Amber Lin: knowledge.
57 00:07:26.100 ⇒ 00:07:31.449 Elizah Joy: Yeah, I started early in the digital space. Yeah, before COVID, even.
58 00:07:31.450 ⇒ 00:07:32.730 Amber Lin: Oh, wow.
59 00:07:32.730 ⇒ 00:07:42.590 Elizah Joy: Yeah, before COVID, that’s why when it… when COVID hit, I… I’m grateful enough that I wasn’t… I did not experience, like, that.
60 00:07:42.760 ⇒ 00:07:47.190 Elizah Joy: that fear of not having a job or something, because I’ve always been…
61 00:07:47.190 ⇒ 00:07:47.670 Amber Lin: Aww.
62 00:07:47.670 ⇒ 00:07:56.500 Elizah Joy: doing remote work, but I do… I’m… actually, I’ve been an operations manager for 6 years now, so even before the pandemic hit.
63 00:07:56.920 ⇒ 00:07:59.570 Elizah Joy: So… Yeah.
64 00:07:59.710 ⇒ 00:08:05.920 Elizah Joy: It’s just that I do work with, like, different industries before, Yeah.
65 00:08:05.920 ⇒ 00:08:12.940 Amber Lin: What is the work culture like in the Philippines? Like, I know you probably work for…
66 00:08:13.060 ⇒ 00:08:17.389 Amber Lin: Philippine companies, or did you always work for, like, overseas companies?
67 00:08:17.390 ⇒ 00:08:33.270 Elizah Joy: Actually, yeah, mostly. I started working with US-based companies and then Australian-based companies in the past, so mostly those two countries. I haven’t tried… I tried European-based, like, businesses before.
68 00:08:33.539 ⇒ 00:08:41.410 Elizah Joy: It was actually, a tech company in Europe, but the work schedule is, like, it’s very…
69 00:08:41.620 ⇒ 00:08:47.599 Elizah Joy: I don’t know, I did not like work… starting my work at 3PM in the afternoon, and then up until…
70 00:08:48.780 ⇒ 00:08:54.579 Elizah Joy: 12am? Because, for example, right now it’s 1AM here in the Philippines, so…
71 00:08:55.030 ⇒ 00:09:02.900 Elizah Joy: I don’t know, I’ve been mostly used to working in the evenings more than, like, in the afternoons here in the Philippines.
72 00:09:02.900 ⇒ 00:09:04.190 Amber Lin: Oh, I see.
73 00:09:04.460 ⇒ 00:09:15.180 Elizah Joy: I think, what I could say is, like, because I haven’t worked with, like, Philippine-based businesses before, mostly, as I mentioned, US-based.
74 00:09:15.460 ⇒ 00:09:23.139 Elizah Joy: I think with the work culture here in the Philippines, guys, even though I do work for, like.
75 00:09:23.240 ⇒ 00:09:25.530 Elizah Joy: US-based companies.
76 00:09:25.810 ⇒ 00:09:33.170 Elizah Joy: I did work with a lot of Filipinos, and, like, for example, with Rico here, right? Rico, Ryan…
77 00:09:33.350 ⇒ 00:09:35.979 Elizah Joy: Umbrial that we have now.
78 00:09:36.250 ⇒ 00:09:40.370 Elizah Joy: I think what I love working most with Filipinos is that
79 00:09:40.850 ⇒ 00:09:58.210 Elizah Joy: they’re very helpful with each other, like, I think with other team members as well, not just with the race, but I think they’re very, because they know that you’re Filipino as well, so the support is… everyone’s very supportive, and…
80 00:09:58.330 ⇒ 00:10:13.330 Elizah Joy: helps you, everyone helps you grow. I think that’s what I love, especially now that, for example, with Rico, right? So, so far, what I could say is with everyone that I’ve worked with in my 6 years of working, so far, Rico has been…
81 00:10:13.460 ⇒ 00:10:14.820 Elizah Joy: The…
82 00:10:15.230 ⇒ 00:10:24.529 Elizah Joy: how can I say? Not the, like, the best team member that I worked with when it comes to growth, and I don’t know, it’s just…
83 00:10:24.660 ⇒ 00:10:30.509 Elizah Joy: I don’t know, that’s what I can say when working with, like, here in the… like, the Filipino culture.
84 00:10:30.850 ⇒ 00:10:46.270 Amber Lin: That’s really fun. Yeah, before I flew here to the U.S, I stopped at the Philippines and stopped at Manila for my flight, and when I was… I think when I was on the flight, and I had to book an Uber to the…
85 00:10:46.760 ⇒ 00:10:48.150 Amber Lin: to my hotel.
86 00:10:48.340 ⇒ 00:10:53.070 Amber Lin: And then my Uber didn’t work because I didn’t have internet, so I was.
87 00:10:53.070 ⇒ 00:10:53.589 Elizah Joy: Does that count.
88 00:10:53.590 ⇒ 00:10:58.200 Amber Lin: am I gonna get there? And this, this guy next to me, he was like,
89 00:10:58.360 ⇒ 00:11:08.720 Amber Lin: he was like, what are you looking at? I was like, I don’t have… I can’t book an Uber because I have no internet. So he just gave me cash. It was… it was very crazy. He just gave.
90 00:11:08.720 ⇒ 00:11:09.190 Elizah Joy: Nope.
91 00:11:09.190 ⇒ 00:11:12.020 Amber Lin: a few bills, and he’s like, okay, get,
92 00:11:12.350 ⇒ 00:11:19.320 Amber Lin: get a taxi with this, and you can pay them with that, because I also couldn’t pay, because I couldn’t have internet.
93 00:11:19.860 ⇒ 00:11:20.345 Elizah Joy: So…
94 00:11:20.830 ⇒ 00:11:22.820 Amber Lin: That was… that was really cool.
95 00:11:23.400 ⇒ 00:11:24.000 Amber Lin: That was.
96 00:11:24.000 ⇒ 00:11:24.590 Elizah Joy: Yeah.
97 00:11:24.590 ⇒ 00:11:26.189 Amber Lin: So, moving along.
98 00:11:26.970 ⇒ 00:11:29.520 Elizah Joy: Was that, was that for, layover?
99 00:11:29.620 ⇒ 00:11:40.440 Amber Lin: Yeah, it was a layover. I was… I wanted to see the city a little bit, so I… I had a layover overnight, and then I went in and saw the city, and then flew to the US.
100 00:11:41.040 ⇒ 00:11:52.380 Elizah Joy: Oh, that’s great. Yeah, I think that’s one thing about, like, what I do love the most about Filipinos, is that even if… wherever you go, even in different countries, they’re very helpful.
101 00:11:52.970 ⇒ 00:12:02.299 Elizah Joy: So I think that’s what, yeah, I’m very proud of when it comes to Filipinos. Have you tried, like, any Filipino foods when you were here in the.
102 00:12:02.300 ⇒ 00:12:02.870 Amber Lin: Bye.
103 00:12:02.870 ⇒ 00:12:03.430 Elizah Joy: In Manila.
104 00:12:03.750 ⇒ 00:12:05.400 Amber Lin: Lynx? Oh!
105 00:12:05.530 ⇒ 00:12:20.989 Amber Lin: I don’t think so. It was so late. I landed around, like, 12 or something, so I… I essentially had a driving tour around the city. I… I did have a lot of Jollibee, though, but not in the.
106 00:12:20.990 ⇒ 00:12:21.650 Elizah Joy: So, she said.
107 00:12:21.650 ⇒ 00:12:23.509 Amber Lin: a lot of Jollibee when I was abroad.
108 00:12:24.100 ⇒ 00:12:34.549 Amber Lin: I had a lot when I was in Italy, and then there was… there was one of the Jolliboos near what I… where I lived before, so I had that a lot. It was really nice.
109 00:12:35.030 ⇒ 00:12:45.609 Elizah Joy: Yeah, yeah, it’s the most… one of the… one of the most famous fast food, restaurants here, Jollibee, so that’s good, that’s good to try that.
110 00:12:45.760 ⇒ 00:12:50.229 Amber Lin: Yeah. What do you do, like, with this work schedule? How do you…
111 00:12:50.230 ⇒ 00:12:51.010 Elizah Joy: Mmm.
112 00:12:51.010 ⇒ 00:12:53.850 Amber Lin: what do you do outside of that?
113 00:12:53.850 ⇒ 00:12:54.310 Elizah Joy: Yeah.
114 00:12:54.310 ⇒ 00:12:58.770 Amber Lin: I would function if I work until, say, 3 a.m. in the morning.
115 00:12:59.840 ⇒ 00:13:03.450 Amber Lin: How does your day look like if you work that time?
116 00:13:03.450 ⇒ 00:13:04.440 Elizah Joy: the schedule.
117 00:13:05.090 ⇒ 00:13:07.579 Elizah Joy: Actually, I think,
118 00:13:07.810 ⇒ 00:13:18.280 Elizah Joy: Because before, when I… before… because when I started working with Brainforge, right, so I was… that was around December. Before that, I was working with an Australian business.
119 00:13:18.280 ⇒ 00:13:42.419 Elizah Joy: So, they’re a, as I mentioned, they’re, actually a digital marketing agency, but they’re based in Australia, so my work mostly starts before then, it starts at 6 AM, 6 a.m. to 3AM… 3 PM, right, so Australian hours. And then I started working with Brainforge, so it was a complete shift with my schedule, because I have to work really late.
120 00:13:42.420 ⇒ 00:13:51.879 Amber Lin: like, late in the even… late nights, and then early mornings, compared to what I’ve been used to before, like, early mornings, still afternoon. But I think…
121 00:13:52.200 ⇒ 00:13:58.040 Elizah Joy: I think my body has gotten used to it.
122 00:13:58.480 ⇒ 00:14:16.520 Elizah Joy: So by the first month was really, I can say, it was very challenging, because my body is not used to the work schedule anymore, although I’ve used to do that, I’ve used to work with Australia, with U.S.-based businesses before, so I’m kind… my body was used to
123 00:14:16.520 ⇒ 00:14:19.380 Elizah Joy: Doing, like, late evening of work.
124 00:14:19.470 ⇒ 00:14:24.269 Elizah Joy: But since I work with Australian businesses, it was challenging, I think.
125 00:14:24.630 ⇒ 00:14:27.110 Elizah Joy: And I could say now it’s more…
126 00:14:27.110 ⇒ 00:14:45.749 Elizah Joy: it’s more easy for me to work, like, during this scheduling, and love working during this time, because it’s very peaceful. Like, no one’s disturbing, I don’t get any notifications with, like, for example, on my phone and stuff like that, like, let’s say family members messaging you, because it’s…
127 00:14:45.750 ⇒ 00:14:50.909 Elizah Joy: I could save my… Focus has gotten a lot better.
128 00:14:51.410 ⇒ 00:14:59.560 Elizah Joy: Because I don’t get, any… like, I do get uninterrupted working hours, that’s what I could say.
129 00:14:59.560 ⇒ 00:15:11.879 Elizah Joy: But I think, for me, for example, I start working at 10pm, 10 p.m. here in the Philippines, although, although UTAM gives us this, flexibility to work, like.
130 00:15:12.080 ⇒ 00:15:13.900 Elizah Joy: Any time during?
131 00:15:14.840 ⇒ 00:15:19.199 Elizah Joy: I mean, I have, like, a flexible working schedule, I just find that working during
132 00:15:19.310 ⇒ 00:15:28.230 Elizah Joy: U.S, or Eastern Standard Time is, like, I do prefer it most, because a lot of our team members are online during those hours.
133 00:15:28.240 ⇒ 00:15:39.320 Elizah Joy: And I think… oh, because my… I usually end my work around, like, 7am here in the Philippines, and then after that, like, January?
134 00:15:39.640 ⇒ 00:15:53.729 Elizah Joy: what I used to do was, around January, after work, I do get, like, straight to sleeping, because I do have a dog, she’s paralyzed, and she can’t walk, so that’s why I need to take care of her.
135 00:15:53.990 ⇒ 00:16:09.960 Elizah Joy: Very well. She’s, she can walk, but it’s not how normal dogs walk, if that makes sense, because her legs are paralyzed. She wasn’t born like that. But yeah, before, like, January, I do get to sleeping right away.
136 00:16:10.080 ⇒ 00:16:16.800 Elizah Joy: after work, when now I do find myself, like, after work, I do have energy still, up until…
137 00:16:16.800 ⇒ 00:16:18.050 Amber Lin: Oh, wow.
138 00:16:18.440 ⇒ 00:16:30.010 Elizah Joy: Yeah, so that’s when I get, like, to do, like, the things that I love, like, I like doing. Like, the, my, like, reading, I do love reading, I do spend time with my dog.
139 00:16:30.140 ⇒ 00:16:34.260 Elizah Joy: And errands, and then 12 noon up until night.
140 00:16:34.550 ⇒ 00:16:38.519 Elizah Joy: 6, 7 PM? That’s when I,
141 00:16:38.830 ⇒ 00:16:42.050 Elizah Joy: That’s my sleeping hours, so I think… yeah, it’s manageable.
142 00:16:42.050 ⇒ 00:16:53.450 Amber Lin: That’s so interesting, because then, like, usually when we get off work, it’s, like, for people who do 9 to 5s, it’s 6 p.m, it’s really late, there’s nothing really happening.
143 00:16:53.450 ⇒ 00:16:54.440 Elizah Joy: comforting.
144 00:16:54.440 ⇒ 00:17:01.490 Amber Lin: But then you also get, like, a chunk in the morning. You also get 7 to 12, which is really nice.
145 00:17:01.490 ⇒ 00:17:02.580 Elizah Joy: Yeah.
146 00:17:02.580 ⇒ 00:17:05.560 Amber Lin: Like, normal working people don’t get to go out in those.
147 00:17:06.510 ⇒ 00:17:12.249 Amber Lin: in those hours, and I think a lot of things happen during that time, and it’s sunny, and you have… you have…
148 00:17:13.000 ⇒ 00:17:15.280 Amber Lin: wide, and so I think it’s really cool.
149 00:17:15.700 ⇒ 00:17:16.230 Elizah Joy: Yeah.
150 00:17:16.230 ⇒ 00:17:16.680 Amber Lin: It’s…
151 00:17:16.680 ⇒ 00:17:25.630 Elizah Joy: It’s interesting, because I do… when I… I just moved to a new home, and in my old home, like, around December, early January.
152 00:17:25.670 ⇒ 00:17:40.350 Elizah Joy: there wasn’t any sunlight coming in that much, so that’s why my working schedule was like that. It was, like, all over the place, and when I stop… when I end my workday, I do get straight to sleeping, but when I moved to my new home,
153 00:17:40.350 ⇒ 00:17:48.719 Elizah Joy: there’s a lot of sunlight coming in, and that definitely did help. So that’s very interesting, because I am a morning person.
154 00:17:49.330 ⇒ 00:17:53.420 Amber Lin: Oh, wow. I mean, you’re completely in the mornings, you start working.
155 00:17:53.420 ⇒ 00:17:54.550 Elizah Joy: When the wind starts.
156 00:17:55.380 ⇒ 00:18:08.890 Elizah Joy: Yeah, that’s why, I don’t know, I think I, like, right now, I’m more productive, like, during mornings, up until the afternoon. Then afternoon, I just can feel my body, like, it’s really tired and I need to sleep.
157 00:18:09.740 ⇒ 00:18:10.370 Amber Lin: Oh.
158 00:18:11.030 ⇒ 00:18:15.879 Amber Lin: That’s really cool. What type of… what type of books do you read? I… I recently…
159 00:18:16.470 ⇒ 00:18:27.830 Amber Lin: I used to just read online and recently got some more physical books to read, because we work so much digitally, it’s really hard to keep reading on my phone.
160 00:18:28.550 ⇒ 00:18:29.330 Elizah Joy: Oh, okay.
161 00:18:29.330 ⇒ 00:18:33.059 Amber Lin: share a screen all day. What do you… what types of books do you read?
162 00:18:33.060 ⇒ 00:18:37.830 Elizah Joy: Oh, I do mostly read, like, self-development books, mostly, like…
163 00:18:37.830 ⇒ 00:18:38.490 Amber Lin: Oh.
164 00:18:38.690 ⇒ 00:18:47.749 Elizah Joy: psychology books, something related to that, like, understanding people and how do… how they do what they do, and…
165 00:18:48.220 ⇒ 00:18:51.519 Elizah Joy: I don’t know, if I could show you… I don’t know if I could see it.
166 00:18:51.520 ⇒ 00:18:54.079 Amber Lin: Oh, I can see it! It’s very cold.
167 00:18:54.080 ⇒ 00:18:56.999 Elizah Joy: books there, but yeah, those are what.
168 00:18:57.000 ⇒ 00:19:09.209 Amber Lin: What would you recommend? Like, what would be your favorite? I recently also read something, on those lines, like, I’ve read this, this, you can’t see it, wait, one sec.
169 00:19:09.710 ⇒ 00:19:18.439 Amber Lin: How do I remove… the… okay, here you go. This one.
170 00:19:18.840 ⇒ 00:19:23.870 Amber Lin: It’s also, like, this is a psychologist. She’s talking about.
171 00:19:23.870 ⇒ 00:19:25.390 Elizah Joy: Oh,
172 00:19:25.570 ⇒ 00:19:32.520 Amber Lin: Dopamine and how that affects our brains, and so that was… that was also very cool.
173 00:19:33.170 ⇒ 00:19:42.320 Elizah Joy: Oh, yeah, I would… I’ll add that to my reading list, because I did… I think I heard about that book, I’m not… maybe from a YouTube video or something?
174 00:19:42.320 ⇒ 00:19:46.239 Amber Lin: Yeah, she’s a lot of… she’s mentioned in a lot of podcasts, when people.
175 00:19:46.240 ⇒ 00:19:47.040 Elizah Joy: We can talk about that.
176 00:19:47.040 ⇒ 00:19:48.760 Amber Lin: Dopamine and talk about.
177 00:19:48.890 ⇒ 00:19:54.570 Amber Lin: That, so I think it’s really cool. Do you have a recommendation that I should go read?
178 00:19:55.070 ⇒ 00:20:06.100 Elizah Joy: Wait, let me think… I think one of the… when it comes to, like, psychology.
179 00:20:07.290 ⇒ 00:20:15.530 Elizah Joy: I don’t know, I think… It’s not most… it’s not, like, psychology or something, but it’s…
180 00:20:16.130 ⇒ 00:20:17.860 Amber Lin: It’s like how your mind…
181 00:20:17.990 ⇒ 00:20:22.859 Amber Lin: How you should think about yourself, how you should think about others, like, how do you think.
182 00:20:22.860 ⇒ 00:20:23.440 Elizah Joy: Yeah.
183 00:20:24.000 ⇒ 00:20:24.580 Amber Lin: Yeah.
184 00:20:24.580 ⇒ 00:20:36.080 Elizah Joy: So, I think this book… What can I say? I don’t know, I… I think one thing is…
185 00:20:37.280 ⇒ 00:20:45.490 Elizah Joy: Like, you are the placebo, is that… Yeah, I don’t know if you’ve heard of him, but it’s by Dr. Joe Dispenza.
186 00:20:45.760 ⇒ 00:20:49.290 Elizah Joy: I don’t know, he talks about… a lot about, like.
187 00:20:50.120 ⇒ 00:21:05.029 Elizah Joy: like, neural pathways, if that makes sense, like rewiring. So it’s not basically, like, a psychology book, more like a scientific book, but I think it’s very… for me, it’s very interesting, because I did…
188 00:21:05.310 ⇒ 00:21:15.439 Elizah Joy: understand a lot about myself, if that makes sense. But yeah, although it’s kind of a long read, because it’s a big book.
189 00:21:15.770 ⇒ 00:21:19.060 Elizah Joy: But yeah, I think on the lines of that.
190 00:21:19.060 ⇒ 00:21:23.099 Amber Lin: Wait, what did you… what did it make you think?
191 00:21:23.980 ⇒ 00:21:27.219 Elizah Joy: Oh, it actually was recommended to me by…
192 00:21:27.570 ⇒ 00:21:38.430 Elizah Joy: A previous client that I work with, she became my friend, and I was interested, because she… actually, what she did was, she did not finish college.
193 00:21:38.660 ⇒ 00:21:46.000 Elizah Joy: But… She’s, like, how can I… like, she’s… Made a lot of…
194 00:21:46.980 ⇒ 00:22:04.099 Elizah Joy: money, in a sense, or she’s became very successful in her field in the real estate industry, and I asked her what’s one book that she read. She mentioned that book, so I did try reading that, because I want to understand, like, how… how she thinks
195 00:22:04.300 ⇒ 00:22:10.599 Elizah Joy: I think that’s one thing that I could recommend, because it’s the most recent book that I could… that I’ve read.
196 00:22:10.990 ⇒ 00:22:13.699 Amber Lin: Is it by, Joe Dispenza?
197 00:22:13.990 ⇒ 00:22:15.550 Elizah Joy: Yeah, yeah.
198 00:22:15.550 ⇒ 00:22:16.550 Amber Lin: Oh, okay.
199 00:22:16.550 ⇒ 00:22:17.370 Elizah Joy: That’s right.
200 00:22:18.370 ⇒ 00:22:19.710 Amber Lin: Very cool.
201 00:22:21.110 ⇒ 00:22:23.000 Amber Lin: Alright, I’ll check it out, I think they have.
202 00:22:23.000 ⇒ 00:22:23.580 Elizah Joy: Awesome.
203 00:22:23.580 ⇒ 00:22:24.779 Amber Lin: close by.
204 00:22:25.420 ⇒ 00:22:34.949 Amber Lin: I mean, what would… if you had… if you had, like, one line takeaway, what would… or just… what did that book make you think? Did you finish it already?
205 00:22:35.480 ⇒ 00:22:37.399 Elizah Joy: Oh, not yet, I’m halfway through.
206 00:22:37.400 ⇒ 00:22:38.780 Amber Lin: Oh, okay, okay.
207 00:22:40.270 ⇒ 00:22:46.339 Elizah Joy: But I think, for me, like, even with those, with the current reads that I’ve did.
208 00:22:46.500 ⇒ 00:22:53.359 Elizah Joy: One thing is… one thing I’ve learned so much is that, everyth… like, it’s…
209 00:22:53.560 ⇒ 00:23:04.130 Elizah Joy: It’s hard to make his words simpler, but everything begins in your mind and how you think about it, if that makes sense. Like, your perception of things?
210 00:23:05.330 ⇒ 00:23:11.489 Elizah Joy: Yeah, so I think that. But I’ll keep you… I’ll keep you posted in Slack once I finish that.
211 00:23:12.050 ⇒ 00:23:24.049 Amber Lin: Okay, I see. Because I was… I was thinking about the same thing of, like, when things are, like, objects are objective, like, this is a… or this is a shirt, but…
212 00:23:24.290 ⇒ 00:23:25.040 Elizah Joy: Mmm.
213 00:23:25.040 ⇒ 00:23:27.379 Amber Lin: I can never have an objective view.
214 00:23:27.620 ⇒ 00:23:28.140 Amber Lin: of…
215 00:23:28.140 ⇒ 00:23:28.630 Elizah Joy: Yeah.
216 00:23:28.630 ⇒ 00:23:32.100 Amber Lin: an object, because I can only interpret.
217 00:23:33.290 ⇒ 00:23:38.790 Amber Lin: my subjectivity, so, like, I do understand what you’re saying that
218 00:23:39.100 ⇒ 00:23:43.370 Amber Lin: Like, it’s… it all starts here, even though the actual thing…
219 00:23:43.370 ⇒ 00:23:43.770 Elizah Joy: Yeah.
220 00:23:43.770 ⇒ 00:23:50.239 Amber Lin: lives in… Lives in objectivity, but everything is… starts over here.
221 00:23:50.410 ⇒ 00:23:52.330 Elizah Joy: So that’s very cool.
222 00:23:52.850 ⇒ 00:24:01.779 Elizah Joy: Yeah, he does… he did… he does have other books as well, like, that’s the other, like, Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself, those kind of…
223 00:24:02.100 ⇒ 00:24:03.950 Elizah Joy: Title, it’s very interesting.
224 00:24:04.720 ⇒ 00:24:05.580 Elizah Joy: Why, yeah.
225 00:24:07.140 ⇒ 00:24:11.179 Amber Lin: Okay, oh yeah, keep me, keep me posted, it sounds cool.
226 00:24:11.360 ⇒ 00:24:14.459 Elizah Joy: Yeah, it is. And I think…
227 00:24:14.690 ⇒ 00:24:23.310 Elizah Joy: I just have a quick question that you mentioned earlier, like, you went to Italy, like, right, do you like traveling?
228 00:24:24.100 ⇒ 00:24:29.919 Amber Lin: Yeah, I actually… I do like traveling. When I… I was in Canada
229 00:24:30.170 ⇒ 00:24:32.529 Amber Lin: For high school, so about a few years there.
230 00:24:32.530 ⇒ 00:24:33.339 Elizah Joy: Yes, I was born.
231 00:24:33.340 ⇒ 00:24:43.830 Amber Lin: born in China, went to school there, and then went to Canada for high school. And then my university program, it lets me… it’s a three-school program.
232 00:24:43.830 ⇒ 00:24:56.039 Amber Lin: I think Robert went to the same program, Kyla went to the same program. So we spend a year in the U.S, we spend a year in Hong Kong, and we spend a year in Italy.
233 00:24:56.120 ⇒ 00:24:57.370 Amber Lin: And that’s where…
234 00:24:58.000 ⇒ 00:25:04.380 Amber Lin: when I was Italy… in Italy is where I did most of the traveling, because it was a lot easier to go by train.
235 00:25:04.380 ⇒ 00:25:04.800 Elizah Joy: Hmm.
236 00:25:04.800 ⇒ 00:25:06.510 Amber Lin: Apply to different places.
237 00:25:07.110 ⇒ 00:25:20.749 Amber Lin: So, it was… it was really fun. I did mostly solo traveling, because then you can… you can talk to random new people, and then you can go to whatever experience you feel like doing that day. What about you?
238 00:25:21.930 ⇒ 00:25:30.839 Elizah Joy: Oh, yeah, actually, yes, I was interested, because you mentioned, like, you went to Italy, right? So, I do have, like,
239 00:25:31.050 ⇒ 00:25:34.359 Elizah Joy: like, every year, my family and I, we do…
240 00:25:34.500 ⇒ 00:25:41.460 Elizah Joy: go overseas, just for traveling to meet up, and we had this, like, Europe trip coming up.
241 00:25:41.670 ⇒ 00:25:47.570 Amber Lin: And Italy is one of… it’s in one of our lists, so that’s why I was interested in…
242 00:25:47.810 ⇒ 00:25:50.720 Elizah Joy: Like, if you have any recommendations…
243 00:25:50.720 ⇒ 00:26:00.240 Amber Lin: Yeah, I can totally give you recommendations, but what type of… what type of places are you looking to… are you looking to see, like, attractions? So.
244 00:26:00.240 ⇒ 00:26:11.549 Amber Lin: the key tourist activities that people should do, or are you looking for, say, more local spots, or sightseeing? What do you want to do?
245 00:26:12.140 ⇒ 00:26:18.140 Elizah Joy: Well, I don’t have anything in mind yet, but I think more on, like, local spots?
246 00:26:18.530 ⇒ 00:26:21.790 Elizah Joy: And then if you have any food recommendations…
247 00:26:22.460 ⇒ 00:26:28.029 Amber Lin: Okay, actually, Kayla stayed in Italy longer than what I did. I think she was there.
248 00:26:28.030 ⇒ 00:26:28.650 Elizah Joy: for 2 years.
249 00:26:28.650 ⇒ 00:26:35.900 Amber Lin: So, if you have, like, food… want food recommendations, I think she will be really helpful.
250 00:26:36.230 ⇒ 00:26:41.020 Amber Lin: And then… yeah, I can… I can go check my… Thanks.
251 00:26:41.260 ⇒ 00:26:43.130 Amber Lin: my maps, and then I’ll see what I.
252 00:26:44.740 ⇒ 00:26:45.710 Elizah Joy: Yeah.
253 00:26:46.060 ⇒ 00:26:46.880 Elizah Joy: Yeah.
254 00:26:47.560 ⇒ 00:26:48.670 Amber Lin: When are you going?
255 00:26:49.300 ⇒ 00:26:52.489 Elizah Joy: Oh, actually, it’s, at the end of this year, actually.
256 00:26:52.490 ⇒ 00:26:55.659 Amber Lin: Oh, okay, okay, that’s very far ahead.
257 00:26:55.660 ⇒ 00:26:57.309 Elizah Joy: Yeah, there you are.
258 00:26:57.890 ⇒ 00:26:59.440 Elizah Joy: Alright. Bye.
259 00:27:00.100 ⇒ 00:27:03.030 Amber Lin: Sounds good. It was really nice talking to you. It was fun. It’s fun to.
260 00:27:03.030 ⇒ 00:27:03.540 Elizah Joy: Yeah. Take a break.
261 00:27:03.540 ⇒ 00:27:07.540 Amber Lin: from… from Varik, and thank you for the book recommendation.
262 00:27:07.780 ⇒ 00:27:25.420 Elizah Joy: Yeah, thank you so much as well. It was really nice seeing you for the first time, actually. I was actually curious. Yeah, I was curious to see, and I was hoping for this. Not hoping, but I was looking forward to this call.
263 00:27:25.420 ⇒ 00:27:27.660 Amber Lin: Because I haven’t spoken with you.
264 00:27:27.850 ⇒ 00:27:28.549 Elizah Joy: And you…
265 00:27:28.550 ⇒ 00:27:31.330 Amber Lin: The company got so much bigger, and then I went
266 00:27:31.690 ⇒ 00:27:34.130 Amber Lin: But a lot of people just haven’t talked to you yet.
267 00:27:34.740 ⇒ 00:27:40.960 Elizah Joy: Yeah, I still… I have… actually, I have a list of team… other team members that I want to meet, because…
268 00:27:40.960 ⇒ 00:27:42.069 Amber Lin: Oh, okay.
269 00:27:42.530 ⇒ 00:27:47.699 Amber Lin: Yeah, you can always just, like, reach out to them to get a call. You don’t have to wait for the donut.
270 00:27:47.970 ⇒ 00:27:57.229 Elizah Joy: Yeah, yeah, that’s what Utam has said as well. So yeah, it’s, it’s very nice to speak with you, actually. It was very.
271 00:27:57.230 ⇒ 00:28:05.210 Amber Lin: I appreciate it. Thank you. Okay, I’m gonna hop, I’m gonna continue my work. Thanks for talking. Alright, thank you so much, everyone.
272 00:28:05.210 ⇒ 00:28:06.510 Elizah Joy: Thank you.
273 00:28:07.020 ⇒ 00:28:07.880 Amber Lin: Bye.
274 00:28:08.480 ⇒ 00:28:09.340 Elizah Joy: Bye.