Meeting Title: AI Service Standup Date: 2026-02-24 Meeting participants: Samuel Roberts, Mustafa Raja, Gabriel Lam, Pranav Narahari
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1 00:00:41.150 ⇒ 00:00:42.060 Samuel Roberts: Oh, hey.
2 00:00:45.660 ⇒ 00:00:46.590 Samuel Roberts: Can you hear me?
3 00:00:47.410 ⇒ 00:00:48.980 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, can you hear me?
4 00:00:49.440 ⇒ 00:00:50.250 Samuel Roberts: Now, yes.
5 00:00:51.150 ⇒ 00:00:51.949 Mustafa Raja: How are you?
6 00:00:52.430 ⇒ 00:00:55.130 Samuel Roberts: Doing alright. It’s sounding like crazy here.
7 00:00:56.040 ⇒ 00:00:59.479 Mustafa Raja: Oh, oh yeah, I heard… I heard there’s some sort of storm, right?
8 00:00:59.820 ⇒ 00:01:08.409 Samuel Roberts: There was a big storm, that hit the Northeast, so, like, New York, Boston, they got a lot of snow. I forget, hold on.
9 00:01:12.310 ⇒ 00:01:17.039 Samuel Roberts: Let’s see, they got… Two feet of snow.
10 00:01:17.510 ⇒ 00:01:19.999 Samuel Roberts: 20 inches. Let me see what that is, hold on.
11 00:01:22.500 ⇒ 00:01:25.860 Samuel Roberts: It’s, like, over half a meter of snow? Yeah, okay, it’s a lot of snow.
12 00:01:26.120 ⇒ 00:01:29.020 Mustafa Raja: Isn’t this a lot of songs?
13 00:01:29.250 ⇒ 00:01:30.690 Mustafa Raja: These days, you know?
14 00:01:30.690 ⇒ 00:01:35.439 Samuel Roberts: There’s been a lot, yeah, and it’s been big storms, but, they’ve been a lot of these big ones.
15 00:01:35.690 ⇒ 00:01:37.839 Samuel Roberts: I don’t know, that doesn’t make me,
16 00:01:38.540 ⇒ 00:01:41.839 Samuel Roberts: Confident about the future of weather, but we’ll see.
17 00:01:42.160 ⇒ 00:01:42.960 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
18 00:01:46.520 ⇒ 00:01:48.280 Mustafa Raja: How was your day yesterday?
19 00:01:49.160 ⇒ 00:01:54.650 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, good. I worked on some Eden stuff, and then someone, Abc?
20 00:01:55.030 ⇒ 00:01:55.950 Samuel Roberts: Alright, cool.
21 00:01:56.620 ⇒ 00:02:01.230 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, so Casey says he won’t be here, but he sent an update.
22 00:02:02.130 ⇒ 00:02:07.129 Samuel Roberts: So we’ll wait a few more minutes.
23 00:02:07.920 ⇒ 00:02:10.020 Samuel Roberts: Let’s see if anyone else hops on…
24 00:02:19.380 ⇒ 00:02:19.950 Mustafa Raja: I was pretty…
25 00:02:20.530 ⇒ 00:02:21.420 Samuel Roberts: What?
26 00:02:21.790 ⇒ 00:02:22.780 Mustafa Raja: How was your day?
27 00:02:23.010 ⇒ 00:02:28.939 Samuel Roberts: Oh, it was good, it was good. I mean, you know, the day back after a few days off is always a lot of catch-up and…
28 00:02:28.940 ⇒ 00:02:29.950 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. Yeah.
29 00:02:29.950 ⇒ 00:02:33.050 Samuel Roberts: get back to everything, but I feel mostly caught up.
30 00:02:33.740 ⇒ 00:02:40.029 Mustafa Raja: I’ll be… I’ll be… Or for 10 days in, in second week of April.
31 00:02:40.690 ⇒ 00:02:41.729 Samuel Roberts: Oh, okay.
32 00:02:42.530 ⇒ 00:02:43.250 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
33 00:02:44.610 ⇒ 00:02:48.580 Mustafa Raja: I haven’t put in the PTO request, but I’ll do that soon.
34 00:02:48.580 ⇒ 00:02:50.460 Samuel Roberts: The second week, so.
35 00:02:50.460 ⇒ 00:02:51.699 Mustafa Raja: Take a look at people.
36 00:02:52.090 ⇒ 00:02:52.930 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
37 00:02:53.660 ⇒ 00:02:56.889 Samuel Roberts: I’ll try to remember that. I might even put it on… yeah, okay.
38 00:02:59.810 ⇒ 00:03:00.839 Samuel Roberts: Like, yeah.
39 00:03:01.000 ⇒ 00:03:05.909 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I have some other, out-of-office stuff, but it’s mostly, like, a day here, a day there.
40 00:03:06.110 ⇒ 00:03:06.870 Samuel Roberts: Because it’s more wet.
41 00:03:07.230 ⇒ 00:03:11.320 Samuel Roberts: this year. Except for June, when I’ll be out for a little bit more.
42 00:03:11.760 ⇒ 00:03:13.539 Samuel Roberts: For another wedding, but yeah.
43 00:03:14.100 ⇒ 00:03:20.620 Samuel Roberts: It’s, it’s crazy, like… All my friends and family decided to get married this year.
44 00:03:24.520 ⇒ 00:03:25.510 Samuel Roberts: Hey, Gabe.
45 00:03:26.420 ⇒ 00:03:27.160 Gabriel Lam: Morning.
46 00:03:28.000 ⇒ 00:03:28.509 Gabriel Lam: 1 and 1.
47 00:03:28.510 ⇒ 00:03:29.260 Samuel Roberts: Morning.
48 00:03:32.270 ⇒ 00:03:35.649 Samuel Roberts: I figured we might wait another minute or two…
49 00:03:35.650 ⇒ 00:03:38.169 Gabriel Lam: Casey’s not… Gonna be here.
50 00:03:38.170 ⇒ 00:03:44.610 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, so we’re not waiting on Casey, but I don’t know about… Anyone else, I may…
51 00:03:45.530 ⇒ 00:03:48.459 Samuel Roberts: Pranov not online, I don’t see Amber…
52 00:03:48.830 ⇒ 00:03:51.969 Samuel Roberts: Alright, maybe we’ll just start, and I’ll ping them later, I guess.
53 00:03:54.340 ⇒ 00:04:00.920 Samuel Roberts: Okay, it’s gonna be a little hard to do by client this way, but I guess let’s talk, ABC to start.
54 00:04:02.000 ⇒ 00:04:04.860 Samuel Roberts: So we saw Casey’s updates.
55 00:04:05.310 ⇒ 00:04:12.039 Samuel Roberts: zip codes for service areas look like they’re in. And then today,
56 00:04:12.530 ⇒ 00:04:18.570 Samuel Roberts: He’s gonna be working on some of the inspectors, and then I have to review the automated testing.
57 00:04:18.980 ⇒ 00:04:20.559 Samuel Roberts: We should be good there.
58 00:04:21.560 ⇒ 00:04:23.139 Samuel Roberts: I don’t know about you, Mustafa?
59 00:04:24.220 ⇒ 00:04:26.490 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, for me, I worked on,
60 00:04:26.810 ⇒ 00:04:34.549 Mustafa Raja: the central dog stuff, so I… What I did was I… brainstormed a little with AI.
61 00:04:34.790 ⇒ 00:04:41.960 Mustafa Raja: To sort of see what it suggests. So, do you want to go through that in this… in this meeting?
62 00:04:42.480 ⇒ 00:04:49.649 Samuel Roberts: Let’s save that maybe for the end of the meeting. If not, we can grab time later. My day’s mostly open, meeting-wise.
63 00:04:49.650 ⇒ 00:04:53.560 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, let’s wait for the end of meeting, then.
64 00:04:53.690 ⇒ 00:04:56.159 Samuel Roberts: Okay, that sounds good. Yeah, no, it’s definitely good to go through.
65 00:04:56.280 ⇒ 00:05:00.610 Samuel Roberts: I don’t know what the status… transcripts…
66 00:05:01.650 ⇒ 00:05:03.680 Samuel Roberts: I guess I’ll have to… get…
67 00:05:04.370 ⇒ 00:05:09.660 Samuel Roberts: context from Amber today if anything else is needed on there to load more in, but… Okay.
68 00:05:10.140 ⇒ 00:05:11.040 Samuel Roberts: Hey, Pranav.
69 00:05:11.760 ⇒ 00:05:12.440 Pranav Narahari: Hey, Sam.
70 00:05:13.280 ⇒ 00:05:21.049 Samuel Roberts: Good morning. I guess let’s jump to Lilo, then. What’s the… The current status there.
71 00:05:21.050 ⇒ 00:05:28.030 Pranav Narahari: Yeah, I saw that there was a few messages that came into the external channel, I think you were taking care of that.
72 00:05:28.030 ⇒ 00:05:32.920 Samuel Roberts: Yesterday, yeah, I helped… I was going back and forth with them a little bit, trying to figure out some of that.
73 00:05:33.280 ⇒ 00:05:38.380 Samuel Roberts: mess up with the data. But I didn’t really do much with it yet. We made a couple… I think we made…
74 00:05:39.000 ⇒ 00:05:43.350 Samuel Roberts: a ticket for that, but I think I wanted another ticket that didn’t go through, but yeah. Okay.
75 00:05:43.350 ⇒ 00:05:43.900 Pranav Narahari: Gotcha.
76 00:05:44.320 ⇒ 00:05:51.169 Pranav Narahari: Yeah, so I have a meeting with Bobby and Zach in an hour-ish, to kind of just discuss, like.
77 00:05:51.320 ⇒ 00:05:53.809 Pranav Narahari: How we’re going to realign on this project.
78 00:05:53.810 ⇒ 00:05:54.430 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
79 00:05:54.710 ⇒ 00:05:59.200 Pranav Narahari: Basically, what we found out, like, high level, was just that
80 00:05:59.450 ⇒ 00:06:05.620 Pranav Narahari: we’re doing so much that’s out of scope of, like, the SOW, like, over 50%, so…
81 00:06:06.580 ⇒ 00:06:09.610 Pranav Narahari: We’ll probably just align there and discuss, like.
82 00:06:10.480 ⇒ 00:06:14.009 Pranav Narahari: potentially Clarence will be joining that call, too, to, like, help me, like.
83 00:06:14.980 ⇒ 00:06:28.410 Pranav Narahari: just, like, run it. But yeah, there’s a little bit of prep I need to do to just kind of figure out exactly what the game plan is there. Our contract with them is until end of March. It’s actually not until end of Feb, which is what we initially thought, so…
84 00:06:29.060 ⇒ 00:06:31.579 Pranav Narahari: Yeah, basically…
85 00:06:31.690 ⇒ 00:06:38.929 Pranav Narahari: not a ton of dev work gonna be done by me today on Lilo, I think, at least until the call.
86 00:06:39.790 ⇒ 00:06:43.970 Pranav Narahari: But yeah, after that call, I think maybe it’ll be useful for us to all huddle up, and then…
87 00:06:43.970 ⇒ 00:06:46.489 Samuel Roberts: I would say, yeah, that probably makes sense.
88 00:06:46.490 ⇒ 00:06:51.239 Pranav Narahari: Yeah, and then kind of just discuss what the, like, priorities are, at least for this week.
89 00:06:51.700 ⇒ 00:06:52.210 Samuel Roberts: honey.
90 00:06:52.210 ⇒ 00:06:58.859 Pranav Narahari: And then, like I said, I’ll be out on Thursday and Friday, too, so… Okay. Yeah, we can probably just try to do that ASAP, you know.
91 00:06:59.650 ⇒ 00:07:00.270 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
92 00:07:00.460 ⇒ 00:07:07.270 Pranav Narahari: push some stuff for today and tomorrow, and I can… I can obviously help with that, and then Thursday and Friday, you guys can wrap up.
93 00:07:07.270 ⇒ 00:07:11.649 Samuel Roberts: Okay, yeah. I’m out Friday as well, so I imagine we probably don’t…
94 00:07:11.860 ⇒ 00:07:13.559 Samuel Roberts: Well, I don’t know if we want that meeting or not.
95 00:07:13.560 ⇒ 00:07:20.279 Pranav Narahari: So, I will mention that. We can probably either bump it to Thursday, or push it to Monday, yeah.
96 00:07:20.280 ⇒ 00:07:22.960 Samuel Roberts: Okay, I’m also out Monday, but that’s fine if you’re here.
97 00:07:22.960 ⇒ 00:07:24.440 Pranav Narahari: Okay. Yeah.
98 00:07:24.440 ⇒ 00:07:32.170 Samuel Roberts: As long as… yeah. Okay, cool. Sounds good. Yeah, well, let’s, convene. Yeah, Casey says he should be back in, like, an hour, so, we can just all…
99 00:07:32.360 ⇒ 00:07:36.799 Samuel Roberts: figure out a time. My, like I was saying earlier, my day’s pretty open meeting-wise, so…
100 00:07:37.980 ⇒ 00:07:45.540 Samuel Roberts: Cool. Alright, yeah, excited to get realigned on that, and move in a little bit. Cool. And then, internal platform.
101 00:07:46.000 ⇒ 00:07:53.230 Gabriel Lam: Yeah, I put out a PR, for just the setup script. Yes. That’s out,
102 00:07:53.810 ⇒ 00:08:00.089 Gabriel Lam: I am going to some… update a commit to linear automations, basically.
103 00:08:00.450 ⇒ 00:08:05.920 Gabriel Lam: as the sort of, like, basic Slack UI to add buttons, when meetings are ingested.
104 00:08:06.080 ⇒ 00:08:06.730 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
105 00:08:07.500 ⇒ 00:08:13.300 Gabriel Lam: that out, so hopefully that’ll go out in the next hour or two. And then…
106 00:08:13.750 ⇒ 00:08:22.380 Gabriel Lam: I added some, just, comments to the ticket about onboarding, so I’ll be working on additional Zoom clips for that.
107 00:08:22.380 ⇒ 00:08:22.939 Samuel Roberts: Oh, cool.
108 00:08:22.940 ⇒ 00:08:25.450 Gabriel Lam: Fully by end of day or tomorrow.
109 00:08:25.760 ⇒ 00:08:26.420 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
110 00:08:26.660 ⇒ 00:08:35.460 Gabriel Lam: And then… I don’t know if any progress was made on the HubSpot, app, or, like, HubSpot bot.
111 00:08:37.080 ⇒ 00:08:50.649 Samuel Roberts: I… looked at it, I put a plan together, I think I had a question about if things were in HubSpot or not, because I’m not too familiar with the actual… but I will push on that a little bit more. I’m kind of ready to just, like, let Cursor start it.
112 00:08:51.480 ⇒ 00:08:54.260 Samuel Roberts: Because it’s got a… I took the PRD and the…
113 00:08:54.580 ⇒ 00:09:01.960 Samuel Roberts: Other documentation, and ran that through the, feature…
114 00:09:02.430 ⇒ 00:09:12.670 Samuel Roberts: documentation that I put together, so it’s got a good plan to start. I think it’s basically gonna be… we may have to add a couple things to do, like, a Slack notification or something.
115 00:09:12.790 ⇒ 00:09:25.089 Samuel Roberts: But besides that, it’s gonna be mostly, like, a standalone agent that’ll just run, check HubSpot, figure out the messages, and send them. So I was just figuring out how to get that running on Railway with the cron job and stuff, but it should be good to go today, so…
116 00:09:25.550 ⇒ 00:09:26.330 Gabriel Lam: Awesome.
117 00:09:26.850 ⇒ 00:09:31.869 Gabriel Lam: Yeah, and I think… I think, like Pranav, I might try to grab some time with you today to…
118 00:09:31.870 ⇒ 00:09:32.470 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
119 00:09:32.470 ⇒ 00:09:34.250 Gabriel Lam: debug linear.
120 00:09:34.250 ⇒ 00:09:35.020 Samuel Roberts: Totally.
121 00:09:35.910 ⇒ 00:09:37.150 Pranav Narahari: Yeah, yeah.
122 00:09:40.450 ⇒ 00:09:44.299 Samuel Roberts: Alrighty, I think that’s kind of the whole… Think today, then, guys.
123 00:09:46.320 ⇒ 00:09:52.549 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, if y’all, like I said, if you all need time, grab some time. I think I have one… I threw something on the calendar…
124 00:09:52.790 ⇒ 00:09:57.329 Samuel Roberts: with Kayla at 3.30 Eastern,
125 00:09:57.650 ⇒ 00:10:01.319 Samuel Roberts: But if something needs to move, I can probably move that, because I just set that up, so…
126 00:10:01.560 ⇒ 00:10:06.290 Samuel Roberts: throw something on there sooner rather than later would be cool. And then, yeah.
127 00:10:06.420 ⇒ 00:10:12.070 Samuel Roberts: I’ll look forward to connecting with y’all, and then I guess, Mustafa, if you want to hold on here, we can go through.
128 00:10:13.110 ⇒ 00:10:13.780 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
129 00:10:14.260 ⇒ 00:10:16.190 Samuel Roberts: Cool, okay. Alright, thank you guys.
130 00:10:16.190 ⇒ 00:10:17.509 Gabriel Lam: Awesome, thanks guys.
131 00:10:17.510 ⇒ 00:10:18.140 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
132 00:10:18.140 ⇒ 00:10:19.120 Mustafa Raja: We do.
133 00:10:21.970 ⇒ 00:10:25.410 Mustafa Raja: Okay… Let me share screen.
134 00:10:29.090 ⇒ 00:10:31.720 Mustafa Raja: By the way, I use Kimi 2.5, it’s pretty good.
135 00:10:31.930 ⇒ 00:10:33.220 Samuel Roberts: Has it been good? Nice.
136 00:10:33.220 ⇒ 00:10:35.220 Mustafa Raja: I like it more than Claude.
137 00:10:35.650 ⇒ 00:10:42.030 Samuel Roberts: Nice! Yeah, I used it, I figured out how to set up, free,
138 00:10:42.880 ⇒ 00:10:45.289 Samuel Roberts: like, a free use of it through NVIDIA?
139 00:10:46.060 ⇒ 00:10:46.560 Mustafa Raja: Oh!
140 00:10:47.050 ⇒ 00:10:50.590 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, it wasn’t…
141 00:10:51.190 ⇒ 00:10:55.870 Samuel Roberts: It wasn’t great, because there was some, like, you know, rate limits and stuff, yeah.
142 00:10:56.220 ⇒ 00:11:00.229 Samuel Roberts: But I… that’s what I set up on my open claw when I was playing with it a few weekends ago.
143 00:11:01.280 ⇒ 00:11:02.600 Mustafa Raja: That’s pretty good.
144 00:11:02.600 ⇒ 00:11:08.130 Samuel Roberts: Because I didn’t really want to spend any money on it while I was playing around, and yeah, it was… it was… it was pretty good. I mean, I… yeah.
145 00:11:08.130 ⇒ 00:11:15.379 Mustafa Raja: Actually, you know, double-checked it with my usage in Cursor, and it’s actually a lot cheaper. Yeah.
146 00:11:15.380 ⇒ 00:11:16.599 Samuel Roberts: It’s way cheaper.
147 00:11:17.540 ⇒ 00:11:20.500 Mustafa Raja: Yeah… So, usage…
148 00:11:20.920 ⇒ 00:11:23.479 Samuel Roberts: Oh, wow, yeah, okay, so there’s a lot of Kimiko.
149 00:11:23.480 ⇒ 00:11:24.690 Mustafa Raja: Okay, so…
150 00:11:24.690 ⇒ 00:11:25.150 Samuel Roberts: Wow.
151 00:11:25.380 ⇒ 00:11:32.480 Mustafa Raja: about 215 tokens take about a cent, right? And a similar one…
152 00:11:33.360 ⇒ 00:11:35.500 Mustafa Raja: Here, you, you, it’s… it takes 7?
153 00:11:35.500 ⇒ 00:11:37.909 Samuel Roberts: Wow, and that’s Sonnet? Yeah.
154 00:11:37.910 ⇒ 00:11:43.390 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, that’s Sonnet, and not Opus, right? So Opus would be crazy.
155 00:11:43.940 ⇒ 00:11:47.060 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, yeah, I’ll have to lean into that a little more, that’s good.
156 00:11:47.790 ⇒ 00:11:50.349 Mustafa Raja: So this is, like… this is amazing.
157 00:11:50.350 ⇒ 00:11:51.030 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
158 00:11:52.540 ⇒ 00:12:03.629 Mustafa Raja: Anyways… So, so what it suggested is, this standardized, format, among the, among all,
159 00:12:03.910 ⇒ 00:12:18.969 Mustafa Raja: you know, central docs. So, a doc header, this is just, metadata on when it’s updating and stuff like that, but I don’t think that this is going to help us out, because this is mostly updated by CSRs directly, or…
160 00:12:20.310 ⇒ 00:12:26.920 Mustafa Raja: CSRs or their supervisors, right? I don’t think they would be keeping this up to date.
161 00:12:27.150 ⇒ 00:12:29.290 Mustafa Raja: But if they do, that’s pretty good.
162 00:12:29.290 ⇒ 00:12:32.300 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, we can try to make that part of their process so that it, you know.
163 00:12:32.300 ⇒ 00:12:47.760 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. Okay. The agent would have context, or even us, even we would have context, you know, auditing the document if anything goes wrong, you know, what changed to what, and sort of, how it went wrong.
164 00:12:47.760 ⇒ 00:13:02.270 Mustafa Raja: This is a quick reference on the overall department. Like, what does the department do, what does the department not do, emergency contacts and stuff like that, and then service definitions, whatever services we have.
165 00:13:02.580 ⇒ 00:13:06.919 Samuel Roberts: Those would… those would have a fixed section.
166 00:13:07.020 ⇒ 00:13:31.970 Mustafa Raja: So, an overview, and what does it do, and what does it not do, and the pricing and durations with effective dates. So, this… this sort of stuff is in tabular format, which makes a lot of sense, and it’s, I’ll show… I’ll show it in, as we move forward, right? Okay. Yeah, so… so services come, and…
167 00:13:31.970 ⇒ 00:13:34.690 Mustafa Raja: Of course, Termite would have all these…
168 00:13:34.690 ⇒ 00:13:35.290 Samuel Roberts: Right, right.
169 00:13:35.290 ⇒ 00:13:41.230 Mustafa Raja: Every service would have at least these nested sections, right?
170 00:13:41.500 ⇒ 00:13:42.180 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
171 00:13:42.410 ⇒ 00:13:44.060 Mustafa Raja: And then these are just…
172 00:13:44.060 ⇒ 00:14:04.999 Mustafa Raja: call flows, workflows, and stuff like that. And then there’s a shared strategy that I’ll show you in a moment. It’s the same thing as we discussed, you know, but what it suggested is, apart from choosing random UUIDs, what we should do is we should ID it this way, so it’s human-readable also.
173 00:14:05.270 ⇒ 00:14:06.599 Samuel Roberts: That’s a good idea.
174 00:14:07.100 ⇒ 00:14:10.180 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so it’s not, you know, it’s not just us.
175 00:14:10.840 ⇒ 00:14:11.170 Samuel Roberts: Totally.
176 00:14:11.170 ⇒ 00:14:23.579 Mustafa Raja: we can actually… we can actually know, okay, what this section is about, and stuff like that. And decision… this is just… I think… I think we could improve this, since…
177 00:14:24.340 ⇒ 00:14:28.830 Mustafa Raja: So what it’s suggesting is we shouldn’t have any personnel at all in the.
178 00:14:29.380 ⇒ 00:14:30.060 Mustafa Raja: turned off.
179 00:14:30.550 ⇒ 00:14:31.609 Samuel Roberts: I agree.
180 00:14:31.610 ⇒ 00:14:48.630 Mustafa Raja: We should be planning to move that into… what’s it called? Into the ZIP database, because I gave it some context on, you know, Andy has two agents and stuff like that. Okay. So I gave it that, and with that, it said, you know, let’s move it.
181 00:14:49.490 ⇒ 00:14:58.490 Mustafa Raja: Service type to type, inspection type. Yeah, and, and stuff like that. And here, in the…
182 00:14:58.880 ⇒ 00:15:02.930 Mustafa Raja: In this section, it just tells us, you know, which section goes where.
183 00:15:03.290 ⇒ 00:15:03.650 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
184 00:15:03.650 ⇒ 00:15:14.979 Mustafa Raja: You know, so master coverage sheet goes into quick reference, this goes into SOPs, pest-specific rodent, this goes into service definitions and stuff like that.
185 00:15:16.020 ⇒ 00:15:21.929 Mustafa Raja: So it gave us mapping to this, new format, if we want to follow it.
186 00:15:21.930 ⇒ 00:15:22.480 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
187 00:15:22.610 ⇒ 00:15:28.600 Mustafa Raja: And here’s a general, you know, here’s a general, what’s it called?
188 00:15:29.320 ⇒ 00:15:32.929 Mustafa Raja: Summary of what each section is for.
189 00:15:32.940 ⇒ 00:15:43.409 Mustafa Raja: You know, so dock headers, version tracking, quick references, CSR cheat sheet, you know, CSRs would come here. Yeah.
190 00:15:43.410 ⇒ 00:15:55.779 Mustafa Raja: and get, get links throughout the document, you know, quickly get, get the, get the data, or whatever, right? So, service definitions, the word, the ISOPs, the how, and then…
191 00:15:55.780 ⇒ 00:15:58.859 Mustafa Raja: This is just the workflows and stuff like that.
192 00:15:58.900 ⇒ 00:16:11.299 Mustafa Raja: And then decision logic is, I think it’s, it’s for pricing and stuff like that, or, what happens when, when something happens, what we should do.
193 00:16:11.300 ⇒ 00:16:13.089 Samuel Roberts: what we should do, or what the CSRs should do?
194 00:16:13.090 ⇒ 00:16:16.140 Mustafa Raja: The CSR, yeah, yeah, not us. Okay, okay. I didn’t know if it was…
195 00:16:16.140 ⇒ 00:16:18.889 Samuel Roberts: I didn’t know if it was telling Andy to, like, look up something or something.
196 00:16:18.890 ⇒ 00:16:20.609 Mustafa Raja: No, no, no, no, no, no.
197 00:16:20.860 ⇒ 00:16:21.500 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
198 00:16:21.780 ⇒ 00:16:24.410 Mustafa Raja: And this is just a… what’s it called?
199 00:16:25.620 ⇒ 00:16:27.560 Mustafa Raja: Quick,
200 00:16:29.320 ⇒ 00:16:39.270 Mustafa Raja: this is just linking to, or just telling us, you know, which externals, or which shared sections we have in our, what’s it called, in our document. That’s all.
201 00:16:39.270 ⇒ 00:16:40.610 Samuel Roberts: Okay, that makes sense.
202 00:16:40.910 ⇒ 00:16:44.190 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I… I… I like this.
203 00:16:44.190 ⇒ 00:16:51.050 Mustafa Raja: And this is just some more depth, because I just wanted to add some more depth. That’s good, that’s good.
204 00:16:51.990 ⇒ 00:16:54.719 Samuel Roberts: I think this looks good, I think.
205 00:16:55.010 ⇒ 00:16:56.810 Mustafa Raja: I definitely won’t.
206 00:16:56.810 ⇒ 00:16:58.270 Samuel Roberts: Okay, good, yeah, go ahead.
207 00:16:58.520 ⇒ 00:17:11.360 Mustafa Raja: you know, lay out some problems that they solve. So, wrong pricing given section 2 would handle that, and how is it handling that? It has a tabular format. Let me find it, I…
208 00:17:11.609 ⇒ 00:17:17.099 Mustafa Raja: I did… I did add that here… let me see where it is…
209 00:17:18.040 ⇒ 00:17:18.710 Samuel Roberts: Pricing right there.
210 00:17:18.720 ⇒ 00:17:27.259 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you’d see that, okay, this is the initial pricing, this is that, and this is the effective date.
211 00:17:27.440 ⇒ 00:17:30.249 Mustafa Raja: You know? Right. Okay.
212 00:17:30.500 ⇒ 00:17:35.880 Mustafa Raja: In the chat, it has better… Better explanation of this.
213 00:17:41.110 ⇒ 00:17:43.670 Mustafa Raja: This shared section, sorry.
214 00:17:43.780 ⇒ 00:17:44.960 Samuel Roberts: You’re good. You’re fine.
215 00:17:52.880 ⇒ 00:17:55.789 Mustafa Raja: Okay, this is how we started.
216 00:18:02.470 ⇒ 00:18:03.960 Mustafa Raja: Besides.
217 00:18:06.180 ⇒ 00:18:07.300 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this.
218 00:18:07.420 ⇒ 00:18:26.419 Mustafa Raja: So, pricing, water softener, so current value, effective date, and effective until, and this is… if it is null, this means this price is still active, and this is the previous values. Now, this was, first suggesting YAML format, but I then told it this isn’t going to work since we are working with
219 00:18:26.420 ⇒ 00:18:31.789 Mustafa Raja: Google Docs, so then it, you know, converted it into a table. I think,
220 00:18:31.850 ⇒ 00:18:35.809 Mustafa Raja: We would want to add this column also, effective until.
221 00:18:36.000 ⇒ 00:18:36.899 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this one.
222 00:18:36.900 ⇒ 00:18:40.159 Samuel Roberts: I don’t know how that… I don’t know how their pricing changes over time.
223 00:18:40.470 ⇒ 00:18:41.040 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
224 00:18:41.040 ⇒ 00:18:42.739 Samuel Roberts: But, good to know, yeah.
225 00:18:43.470 ⇒ 00:18:45.139 Mustafa Raja: Okay, so… Yeah.
226 00:18:45.140 ⇒ 00:18:50.599 Samuel Roberts: I think that’s good. We even might want to transform it into YAML when we rag it or something, maybe, I don’t know.
227 00:18:51.340 ⇒ 00:18:51.955 Mustafa Raja: Yeah…
228 00:18:52.570 ⇒ 00:18:56.019 Samuel Roberts: But that’s on us. Like, for them, I want it… I want to keep it in a good…
229 00:18:56.020 ⇒ 00:19:01.549 Mustafa Raja: The tabular… I don’t… I don’t… I don’t exactly know if the tables are, you know, being…
230 00:19:01.550 ⇒ 00:19:01.990 Samuel Roberts: You may have to…
231 00:19:01.990 ⇒ 00:19:03.439 Mustafa Raja: Ragged at all or not.
232 00:19:03.440 ⇒ 00:19:07.160 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, exactly. But we definitely want to make sure we’re on top of that, but I think that’s good.
233 00:19:07.160 ⇒ 00:19:07.520 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
234 00:19:07.520 ⇒ 00:19:14.000 Samuel Roberts: Either way. Okay. No, this seems good. I would say let’s run this by Amber and get her input, because she did a lot with the pest.
235 00:19:14.220 ⇒ 00:19:19.590 Samuel Roberts: So she’ll know if we’re missing any important sections, or,
236 00:19:20.100 ⇒ 00:19:25.839 Samuel Roberts: anything like that, and then probably want to actually test it out, right? See how it does.
237 00:19:26.140 ⇒ 00:19:28.099 Samuel Roberts: See how we can change the rag, maybe.
238 00:19:28.100 ⇒ 00:19:32.230 Mustafa Raja: One more thing, I would want to share is,
239 00:19:32.710 ⇒ 00:19:40.719 Mustafa Raja: the way our RAG works, or the way NN limits us to RAG is, we have to define a character limit within a…
240 00:19:40.810 ⇒ 00:19:49.260 Samuel Roberts: Yes, yes. Within an embedding rate. So, I was thinking if it’s better for us to chunk a whole section.
241 00:19:49.260 ⇒ 00:19:50.660 Mustafa Raja: as one…
242 00:19:50.660 ⇒ 00:19:51.090 Samuel Roberts: I think.
243 00:19:51.090 ⇒ 00:19:52.540 Mustafa Raja: document. I do.
244 00:19:52.540 ⇒ 00:19:56.229 Samuel Roberts: That makes sense, yeah. And if we’re gonna get off N8N, we can do that, right?
245 00:19:56.230 ⇒ 00:20:01.359 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, we can do that. I’ve done that before, but it’s just edit and that limits us to not do that.
246 00:20:01.360 ⇒ 00:20:02.120 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
247 00:20:02.730 ⇒ 00:20:04.440 Samuel Roberts: I think that’s,
248 00:20:05.540 ⇒ 00:20:14.539 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think that’s part of… as we do this, we can tweak that as well, and make these work well together.
249 00:20:15.220 ⇒ 00:20:22.720 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I think if we move ahead to test this out, I’d rather, rather than doing it in N10, I’d do it in Master.
250 00:20:22.720 ⇒ 00:20:23.140 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
251 00:20:23.140 ⇒ 00:20:32.329 Mustafa Raja: Just because, you know, we would have a starting point, we would have something in, Cloud SQL 2 that way.
252 00:20:32.620 ⇒ 00:20:34.219 Samuel Roberts: Good point, good point.
253 00:20:34.870 ⇒ 00:20:39.160 Mustafa Raja: So we would know, you know, how Cloud SQL and stuff like that behaves when we…
254 00:20:39.550 ⇒ 00:20:41.539 Mustafa Raja: Good point. Driving bench stuff.
255 00:20:43.540 ⇒ 00:20:44.999 Samuel Roberts: Okay, I think that’s smart.
256 00:20:45.050 ⇒ 00:20:48.880 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I have added new stuff in the ticket also.
257 00:20:49.190 ⇒ 00:20:49.770 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
258 00:20:50.230 ⇒ 00:20:51.120 Samuel Roberts: I would say…
259 00:20:51.390 ⇒ 00:20:52.050 Mustafa Raja: Oh, no.
260 00:20:52.050 ⇒ 00:20:52.520 Samuel Roberts: This is not…
261 00:20:52.660 ⇒ 00:20:53.440 Mustafa Raja: Okay, good.
262 00:20:55.100 ⇒ 00:20:55.610 Mustafa Raja: This is…
263 00:20:55.610 ⇒ 00:20:55.970 Samuel Roberts: Where?
264 00:20:56.620 ⇒ 00:20:59.970 Samuel Roberts: Okay, where are the… Oh, wow, okay.
265 00:21:00.300 ⇒ 00:21:03.150 Mustafa Raja: This latest comment is…
266 00:21:03.150 ⇒ 00:21:07.550 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, jump back to, yeah, jump back to cursor for a second.
267 00:21:08.560 ⇒ 00:21:10.240 Mustafa Raja: Now, do you want me to share this, Kat?
268 00:21:10.650 ⇒ 00:21:18.310 Samuel Roberts: I was thinking maybe we put a folder in the… oh, sure, the chat could be good, yeah, actually. But I was thinking even if we want to just take this,
269 00:21:18.640 ⇒ 00:21:21.800 Samuel Roberts: and make, like, a draft PR or something.
270 00:21:22.170 ⇒ 00:21:23.100 Mustafa Raja: Okay, okay.
271 00:21:23.270 ⇒ 00:21:27.209 Samuel Roberts: But the ticket might be enough, but I just want to make sure that it’s easy to share.
272 00:21:28.490 ⇒ 00:21:34.060 Mustafa Raja: Okay, okay, yeah, yeah. A draft PR in ABC repo, I’ll do that. Yeah.
273 00:21:34.060 ⇒ 00:21:41.829 Samuel Roberts: I think so. And then, yeah, maybe even share the chat, in the ticket, maybe, and…
274 00:21:41.830 ⇒ 00:21:43.170 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’ll do that.
275 00:21:43.170 ⇒ 00:21:50.840 Samuel Roberts: For context, that’s perfect. Okay. Yeah, I would say, let’s get Amber’s input on this. Hopefully it’s pretty good, hopefully it’s not missing too much stuff.
276 00:21:51.060 ⇒ 00:22:02.220 Samuel Roberts: You know, I just imagine there’s probably something she’s like, oh, well, when we did this before, you know, blah blah blah, like, however… like, whatever knowledge she has from that, she’ll be able to help us out, and then we can give it a shot.
277 00:22:02.950 ⇒ 00:22:03.730 Mustafa Raja: Yep.
278 00:22:04.100 ⇒ 00:22:06.220 Samuel Roberts: Cool. Good job. I like this.
279 00:22:06.890 ⇒ 00:22:10.600 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this is mostly just me doing.
280 00:22:10.600 ⇒ 00:22:13.029 Samuel Roberts: I was gonna say, yeah, I had a, like…
281 00:22:13.280 ⇒ 00:22:16.750 Samuel Roberts: It was really good in the open cloth stuff, so I was pretty impressed with it.
282 00:22:16.750 ⇒ 00:22:20.299 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this is my initial prompt I gave it.
283 00:22:20.300 ⇒ 00:22:22.429 Samuel Roberts: Oh, wow! Yeah. Oh, God.
284 00:22:22.430 ⇒ 00:22:25.620 Mustafa Raja: Good, yeah, that’s, I mean, you know, whatever works.
285 00:22:25.800 ⇒ 00:22:27.070 Mustafa Raja: Great, okay.
286 00:22:27.260 ⇒ 00:22:28.040 Samuel Roberts: Sweet.
287 00:22:30.930 ⇒ 00:22:31.830 Samuel Roberts: Alright.
288 00:22:31.830 ⇒ 00:22:41.590 Mustafa Raja: Okay, I’ll just share the chat then. And then, it’s in cursor now. I’d like if you would use it, and then I would like to hear your thoughts.
289 00:22:41.860 ⇒ 00:22:42.610 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I might give it a try.
290 00:22:42.610 ⇒ 00:22:46.519 Mustafa Raja: What I would like to hear is you comparing it to, Claude.
291 00:22:47.450 ⇒ 00:22:54.549 Samuel Roberts: Interesting, okay. See, here’s the thing, I don’t lean on Claude unless I really need it. I sit on auto a lot.
292 00:22:55.610 ⇒ 00:23:09.550 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah, so for me, I lean on Claude a lot, but only Sonnet. I don’t like Opus, because I feel it’s a lot overpriced, and with a few, you know, repetitions with Sonnet, we can just be there.
293 00:23:09.550 ⇒ 00:23:11.550 Samuel Roberts: Exactly. That’s my feed.
294 00:23:12.200 ⇒ 00:23:16.770 Samuel Roberts: Yeah. If you’re… if you’re coding, though, have you tried the Composer models from Cursor?
295 00:23:17.130 ⇒ 00:23:21.380 Mustafa Raja: No. Is that… is that any different? Oh, no, this one.
296 00:23:21.380 ⇒ 00:23:21.760 Samuel Roberts: That one.
297 00:23:21.760 ⇒ 00:23:22.669 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, I have.
298 00:23:22.670 ⇒ 00:23:27.780 Samuel Roberts: So, the first, I haven’t used 1.5 a lot yet, but when I was using 1, it’s crazy fast.
299 00:23:28.290 ⇒ 00:23:41.480 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, it’s passed, for sure. And sometimes… I use… I use the… I use both of these in a combination. Sometimes, you know, Sonnet is not getting… getting me through.
300 00:23:41.480 ⇒ 00:23:50.400 Mustafa Raja: I’ll shift to Composer. If Composer is not getting me through, I’ll shift to Sonnet. So this has been my workflow for quite a while now.
301 00:23:50.400 ⇒ 00:23:50.800 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
302 00:23:50.800 ⇒ 00:24:01.779 Mustafa Raja: But with Kimi, I don’t think that I’ll have to move. I love it because I have been migrating Eden dashboards using Sonic.
303 00:24:01.900 ⇒ 00:24:03.600 Samuel Roberts: Oh, nice. Okay.
304 00:24:03.600 ⇒ 00:24:09.390 Mustafa Raja: Last night, I migrated one more dashboard, and I used Kimi, and I…
305 00:24:09.510 ⇒ 00:24:20.430 Mustafa Raja: I felt that this, this was… this model had more, more correct responses on how I should be doing it.
306 00:24:20.600 ⇒ 00:24:24.049 Mustafa Raja: then… It’s on it.
307 00:24:24.710 ⇒ 00:24:25.830 Samuel Roberts: Interesting.
308 00:24:25.830 ⇒ 00:24:35.080 Mustafa Raja: So it gave me the right formulas, it was able to, correctly, note the right documentation from,
309 00:24:35.450 ⇒ 00:24:39.499 Mustafa Raja: from Omni, where Sonnet might struggle.
310 00:24:40.350 ⇒ 00:24:41.929 Samuel Roberts: Really? Interesting.
311 00:24:42.220 ⇒ 00:24:44.970 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so… Yeah, okay.
312 00:24:44.970 ⇒ 00:24:46.050 Samuel Roberts: I’m excited to play with it.
313 00:24:46.050 ⇒ 00:24:46.670 Mustafa Raja: I just…
314 00:24:46.730 ⇒ 00:24:49.930 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I haven’t touched it since open claw stuff, but I’ll try to, yeah, I’ll try to play with this.
315 00:24:49.930 ⇒ 00:24:51.809 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
316 00:24:51.810 ⇒ 00:24:53.880 Samuel Roberts: I’m working on it. Thank you. Alright, cool. Yes, thanks.
317 00:24:53.880 ⇒ 00:24:56.769 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’ll just… I’ll just shoot a message in the Andy channel.
318 00:24:57.320 ⇒ 00:25:04.180 Mustafa Raja: Perfect. Once I have, you know, this chat shared, and then, yeah, let’s wait for Amber’s thoughts on this.
319 00:25:04.450 ⇒ 00:25:05.350 Samuel Roberts: Sounds good.
320 00:25:06.480 ⇒ 00:25:07.290 Mustafa Raja: Thank you, have a good day.
321 00:25:07.290 ⇒ 00:25:09.130 Samuel Roberts: Yeah. You too. Talk to you later.
322 00:25:09.730 ⇒ 00:25:10.460 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, bye.