Meeting Title: Brainforge BI Migration Planning Sync Date: 2026-02-09 Meeting participants: Uttam Kumaran, Greg Stoutenburg
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1 00:01:03.630 ⇒ 00:01:04.540 Greg Stoutenburg: Ape!
2 00:01:07.110 ⇒ 00:01:08.550 Greg Stoutenburg: Oh, you’re muted.
3 00:01:12.370 ⇒ 00:01:13.450 Uttam Kumaran: We’re right there.
4 00:01:13.450 ⇒ 00:01:14.280 Greg Stoutenburg: There we go.
5 00:01:14.420 ⇒ 00:01:18.199 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know why this is not charging. I feel like I spilled some water on it.
6 00:01:19.170 ⇒ 00:01:19.760 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
7 00:01:19.760 ⇒ 00:01:20.460 Greg Stoutenburg: Do it.
8 00:01:21.310 ⇒ 00:01:23.500 Uttam Kumaran: Busted, it’s busted, it’s busted.
9 00:01:25.610 ⇒ 00:01:27.069 Uttam Kumaran: How’s the day going?
10 00:01:27.400 ⇒ 00:01:35.630 Greg Stoutenburg: Good! So much… man, Eden, they love to just be like, hey, time for a call, alright, time for another call, time for another call. I’m like…
11 00:01:35.730 ⇒ 00:01:36.850 Greg Stoutenburg: Alright.
12 00:01:36.850 ⇒ 00:01:38.860 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that’s what they do.
13 00:01:41.540 ⇒ 00:01:42.230 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
14 00:01:43.220 ⇒ 00:01:44.359 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, good.
15 00:01:44.560 ⇒ 00:01:48.300 Greg Stoutenburg: Good stuff going on. Looking forward to making another video for Mixpanel, too.
16 00:01:48.300 ⇒ 00:01:52.869 Uttam Kumaran: Cool, yeah, I think I have to record one, too, and
17 00:01:53.850 ⇒ 00:02:00.679 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I feel like me and you can record. I think both of us can start recording some more stuff, I feel like. I don’t mind either, so…
18 00:02:00.800 ⇒ 00:02:11.410 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, yeah, yeah, happy to do it. So, yeah, tomorrow I’ll… they want a video that mentions session replays and metrics trees, so I’ll dive in on that tomorrow morning and record something.
19 00:02:11.880 ⇒ 00:02:12.500 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
20 00:02:12.730 ⇒ 00:02:13.360 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep.
21 00:02:14.490 ⇒ 00:02:20.920 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so let me think about some notes for migration.
22 00:02:24.260 ⇒ 00:02:27.860 Uttam Kumaran: So, I’m just gonna write some stuff into this stock.
23 00:02:34.330 ⇒ 00:02:37.060 Uttam Kumaran: So, it’s just, like, if I just, like…
24 00:02:37.210 ⇒ 00:02:41.380 Uttam Kumaran: pre-form some thoughts. So, yeah, primarily it’s gonna be…
25 00:02:45.730 ⇒ 00:02:51.490 Uttam Kumaran: On this work stream, I think…
26 00:02:52.260 ⇒ 00:02:58.419 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s see if you can get Mustafa on this. I feel like you’re kind of golden, that would be really dope.
27 00:02:58.750 ⇒ 00:02:59.220 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep.
28 00:02:59.340 ⇒ 00:03:05.180 Uttam Kumaran: But more than likely, like, your stakeholders…
29 00:03:05.950 ⇒ 00:03:11.070 Uttam Kumaran: are on the Brainforge side are gonna be, like, Demi… And Robert…
30 00:03:11.600 ⇒ 00:03:14.600 Uttam Kumaran: Demi built a lot of the modeling.
31 00:03:14.870 ⇒ 00:03:16.680 Uttam Kumaran: And Robert is sort of like…
32 00:03:17.040 ⇒ 00:03:19.200 Uttam Kumaran: Has a spidey sense for leadership.
33 00:03:19.580 ⇒ 00:03:20.150 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep.
34 00:03:20.380 ⇒ 00:03:27.090 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know who else is the core stakeholder on Eden’s side, but that’s probably to figure out.
35 00:03:27.950 ⇒ 00:03:32.040 Uttam Kumaran: Let me just see if I… if there’s, like, any good,
36 00:03:34.760 ⇒ 00:03:40.830 Uttam Kumaran: If I… even if I just Google, like, BI migration, if there’s just anything interesting that comes up that I can reference…
37 00:03:41.520 ⇒ 00:03:43.609 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, I’ve done this a few times, but…
38 00:03:46.720 ⇒ 00:03:50.219 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, sometimes it’s just hard to pass on knowledge, I get that.
39 00:03:50.370 ⇒ 00:03:55.859 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, or if someone just wrote… written it up in, like, a nice way that, like, I’m like, okay.
40 00:03:56.470 ⇒ 00:04:01.760 Uttam Kumaran: I can, I’m like, yeah, that’s exactly it.
41 00:04:44.070 ⇒ 00:04:56.400 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so, like, pre-migration… You’re gonna need to know, like, usage, analytics, You’re gonna need to know… like, dashboard…
42 00:04:56.560 ⇒ 00:05:00.130 Uttam Kumaran: list…
43 00:05:19.540 ⇒ 00:05:24.750 Uttam Kumaran: So, like, overall, though, the nice thing about this is, like, there’s going to be,
44 00:05:25.760 ⇒ 00:05:36.960 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know. So, there’s gonna be overlap… Between Omni… and Tableau.
45 00:05:37.570 ⇒ 00:05:45.709 Uttam Kumaran: Eau… Means you don’t need to worry about
46 00:05:45.920 ⇒ 00:05:50.539 Uttam Kumaran: Turning one off until the other is stood up.
47 00:05:50.900 ⇒ 00:05:51.659 Greg Stoutenburg: Got it.
48 00:05:51.660 ⇒ 00:05:54.660 Uttam Kumaran: So, there’s not like a, okay, like.
49 00:05:55.040 ⇒ 00:06:02.249 Uttam Kumaran: we have 24 hours, like, do this. You… you can probably end up, like, Just having everything one-to-one.
50 00:06:05.470 ⇒ 00:06:09.529 Uttam Kumaran: I think you’ll have to think a little bit about… so this is less about, like.
51 00:06:10.150 ⇒ 00:06:12.889 Uttam Kumaran: It’s a migration, but, like, migration…
52 00:06:13.790 ⇒ 00:06:22.280 Uttam Kumaran: The overall, like, migration plan, you’re gonna have to do, like, an audit, you’re gonna have to do, like, what… who are all the, like, stakeholders.
53 00:06:22.940 ⇒ 00:06:26.220 Uttam Kumaran: Who are all the stakeholders?
54 00:06:28.680 ⇒ 00:06:37.120 Uttam Kumaran: What is the order of operations? And again, you’ll work directly with Awash on these, and so he’ll really be able to answer a lot of this.
55 00:06:37.600 ⇒ 00:06:43.650 Uttam Kumaran: And… it’ll be,
56 00:06:46.940 ⇒ 00:06:49.870 Uttam Kumaran: Can we prioritize?
57 00:06:50.110 ⇒ 00:06:56.870 Uttam Kumaran: the, like… Some of the reports… Gonna move over first…
58 00:06:57.410 ⇒ 00:07:02.279 Uttam Kumaran: And then you’ll really… there’ll have to be some, like, training, and then there’ll be, like, sunset of Tableau…
59 00:07:02.480 ⇒ 00:07:03.380 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
60 00:07:03.380 ⇒ 00:07:05.000 Uttam Kumaran: So, like, these are, like, the rough…
61 00:07:05.450 ⇒ 00:07:11.629 Uttam Kumaran: steps. I think the audit piece is gonna be, like, usage and, like, Tableau reports.
62 00:07:11.900 ⇒ 00:07:17.609 Uttam Kumaran: Training, you’re gonna have… people are gonna wanna understand, really, like, a lot of the AI features.
63 00:07:18.340 ⇒ 00:07:19.560 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
64 00:07:19.560 ⇒ 00:07:26.420 Uttam Kumaran: people are gonna… Which they’re sold on, I understand, from the… Yeah, they’re really sold on it. So, really, the thing on the AI side to explain is, like.
65 00:07:26.850 ⇒ 00:07:29.689 Uttam Kumaran: You’re just gonna wanna really make sure that this works.
66 00:07:30.320 ⇒ 00:07:33.229 Uttam Kumaran: With the questions we already know that they’re asking.
67 00:07:33.230 ⇒ 00:07:33.810 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
68 00:07:33.810 ⇒ 00:07:40.290 Uttam Kumaran: So, a way to do this, is, like, One, you’re gonna…
69 00:07:41.260 ⇒ 00:07:46.559 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, a lot of the people on the team, like Amber and Robert, should be able to tell you.
70 00:07:46.560 ⇒ 00:07:47.550 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
71 00:07:49.420 ⇒ 00:07:54.089 Uttam Kumaran: what… Questions are business users asking?
72 00:07:55.020 ⇒ 00:08:04.130 Uttam Kumaran: So, and the second piece is, like, how much semantic Knowledge…
73 00:08:04.230 ⇒ 00:08:16.960 Uttam Kumaran: can get into Omni in the form of form of… column… Descriptions, table…
74 00:08:17.340 ⇒ 00:08:23.139 Uttam Kumaran: descriptions, etc. But this is gonna be a little bit of, like, exploration you’ll have to do.
75 00:08:23.500 ⇒ 00:08:24.920 Uttam Kumaran: in… in Omni?
76 00:08:25.420 ⇒ 00:08:28.200 Uttam Kumaran: The nice thing is, like.
77 00:08:28.530 ⇒ 00:08:32.280 Uttam Kumaran: lean on Omni team to make sure
78 00:08:32.580 ⇒ 00:08:35.570 Uttam Kumaran: this goes smooth. They’re really good friends with us, so they should.
79 00:08:35.570 ⇒ 00:08:36.280 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
80 00:08:36.289 ⇒ 00:08:37.639 Uttam Kumaran: They should be able to, like.
81 00:08:38.399 ⇒ 00:08:40.899 Uttam Kumaran: We have a channel with, like, 40 people, like, someone will…
82 00:08:41.850 ⇒ 00:08:44.259 Greg Stoutenburg: And I’m sure they’ve got some general guidance on this kind of.
83 00:08:44.260 ⇒ 00:08:48.000 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they have great dogs and everything, but, you know.
84 00:08:48.540 ⇒ 00:08:54.080 Uttam Kumaran: So there’s some sort of training, so also on the training piece, you’re gonna have to think a little bit about, like.
85 00:08:54.690 ⇒ 00:09:02.650 Uttam Kumaran: Potentially… Like… structured… training sessions…
86 00:09:02.890 ⇒ 00:09:08.820 Uttam Kumaran: So this may… you may think about doing this for… Different types of users.
87 00:09:09.270 ⇒ 00:09:13.520 Uttam Kumaran: Right, so dashboard… First, natural language…
88 00:09:14.140 ⇒ 00:09:25.170 Uttam Kumaran: their dashboard, the AI, or, like, people that are actually, like, dashboard, Builders… Explorers, right?
89 00:09:25.170 ⇒ 00:09:25.700 Greg Stoutenburg: dope.
90 00:09:25.940 ⇒ 00:09:32.990 Uttam Kumaran: You can also think about this as, like, by business unit,
91 00:09:34.660 ⇒ 00:09:38.500 Uttam Kumaran: So, this one, you know, we can kind of build towards as we go.
92 00:09:39.610 ⇒ 00:09:42.269 Uttam Kumaran: Trying to think if there’s anything else,
93 00:09:42.550 ⇒ 00:09:48.909 Uttam Kumaran: One, probably, part of this is, like, What documentation exists?
94 00:09:49.250 ⇒ 00:09:53.810 Uttam Kumaran: About various tables, metrics…
95 00:09:53.810 ⇒ 00:09:54.330 Greg Stoutenburg: Justin.
96 00:09:54.330 ⇒ 00:09:57.350 Uttam Kumaran: and dashboards. You will probably find that this is low.
97 00:09:57.770 ⇒ 00:10:02.210 Uttam Kumaran: And so, a good part of… a good side effect is that
98 00:10:02.790 ⇒ 00:10:09.970 Uttam Kumaran: we write… we should be writing a lot of docs, and the fact… and writing a lot of docs is gonna be the reason the AI works super well.
99 00:10:10.180 ⇒ 00:10:10.590 Greg Stoutenburg: Right.
100 00:10:10.590 ⇒ 00:10:17.240 Uttam Kumaran: Without that context, it’s gonna be really, really poor. I mean, it’ll work, but, it would just be way better.
101 00:10:17.450 ⇒ 00:10:17.990 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep.
102 00:10:17.990 ⇒ 00:10:25.430 Uttam Kumaran: I also want to talk about, I’m just gonna put, like…
103 00:10:25.750 ⇒ 00:10:30.790 Uttam Kumaran: something around doing the migration, and this is sort of, like, a little bit meta, but…
104 00:10:32.150 ⇒ 00:10:38.570 Uttam Kumaran: A couple of pieces is, one, you should find a way… to use AI to…
105 00:10:38.810 ⇒ 00:10:45.900 Uttam Kumaran: create identical dashboards from Tableau in Omni.
106 00:10:46.340 ⇒ 00:10:47.000 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep.
107 00:10:48.020 ⇒ 00:10:53.409 Uttam Kumaran: Omni has a really great AI dashboard builder.
108 00:10:53.750 ⇒ 00:11:07.040 Uttam Kumaran: One way of doing this is you can… take… the… PDF of Tableau, And… do GPT-5…
109 00:11:07.180 ⇒ 00:11:10.789 Uttam Kumaran: Ask it to build you the prompt.
110 00:11:11.120 ⇒ 00:11:12.270 Uttam Kumaran: for Omni.
111 00:11:12.730 ⇒ 00:11:19.769 Uttam Kumaran: So this way, you can kind of, like, instead… like, I don’t know if the Omnibot can take PDFs, so this way you could… there’s, like, some middle ground.
112 00:11:20.030 ⇒ 00:11:23.879 Uttam Kumaran: So find a way to use AI to help you speed up the development.
113 00:11:23.990 ⇒ 00:11:35.019 Uttam Kumaran: Similarly, omni is all… Omni can be, hooked into GitHub.
114 00:11:35.250 ⇒ 00:11:43.799 Uttam Kumaran: So, find ways to use AI to speed up The creation of data models.
115 00:11:44.100 ⇒ 00:11:44.690 Greg Stoutenburg: Yup.
116 00:11:44.790 ⇒ 00:11:50.340 Uttam Kumaran: Given… We have tons of transcripts.
117 00:11:50.720 ⇒ 00:12:00.199 Uttam Kumaran: You may also… Find it easy to backfill descriptions and docs.
118 00:12:01.570 ⇒ 00:12:05.180 Uttam Kumaran: your cursor… .
119 00:12:05.440 ⇒ 00:12:06.010 Greg Stoutenburg: Cool.
120 00:12:06.180 ⇒ 00:12:19.910 Uttam Kumaran: Another thing is, like… You may want to give the Omni MCP a shot… So, that…
121 00:12:20.320 ⇒ 00:12:29.279 Uttam Kumaran: Eden users can maybe… ask questions of the data in there, Claude.
122 00:12:29.420 ⇒ 00:12:30.740 Uttam Kumaran: LGBT.
123 00:12:31.110 ⇒ 00:12:34.329 Uttam Kumaran: So, just a couple things to, like, think about during that.
124 00:12:34.590 ⇒ 00:12:46.620 Uttam Kumaran: Pre-migration, migration plan, overlap between Omni and Tableau. So, I think if, if, like, There’s probably, like…
125 00:12:48.660 ⇒ 00:12:50.730 Uttam Kumaran: Kinda like Phase 1…
126 00:12:54.070 ⇒ 00:13:02.089 Uttam Kumaran: there’s, like… Phase… 2, and then there’s, like… Phase 3…
127 00:13:02.390 ⇒ 00:13:09.300 Uttam Kumaran: Phase 2 is the, like… like… Building… Omni itself…
128 00:13:09.500 ⇒ 00:13:13.890 Uttam Kumaran: So this is where, like, Mustafa and Awash have a lot of context, but…
129 00:13:13.890 ⇒ 00:13:14.260 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
130 00:13:14.260 ⇒ 00:13:20.020 Uttam Kumaran: You’ll be connecting… BigQuery, you’ll be creating…
131 00:13:20.960 ⇒ 00:13:25.969 Uttam Kumaran: what’s called Topics, in Omni, which is just a collection of tables joined together.
132 00:13:26.280 ⇒ 00:13:37.670 Uttam Kumaran: And you’ll be creating models, columns… Views… Creating users, creating groups… Creating…
133 00:13:38.360 ⇒ 00:13:41.769 Uttam Kumaran: Rules, this seems like a lot, it’s not that… it’s actually not that much.
134 00:13:43.000 ⇒ 00:13:50.230 Uttam Kumaran: So there’ll be building here, and then there’ll be, like, Basically, like, proof of concept…
135 00:13:50.700 ⇒ 00:13:58.109 Uttam Kumaran: like, and then MVP… And then, like, All dashboards migrated.
136 00:13:59.750 ⇒ 00:14:04.380 Uttam Kumaran: Another way that people typically do this is they’ll do, like, P1, P0 dashboards.
137 00:14:04.810 ⇒ 00:14:05.550 Greg Stoutenburg: Right.
138 00:14:08.630 ⇒ 00:14:25.940 Uttam Kumaran: P1 dash, P2 dashes, right? So, you work on the most important ones, you move it over, the most important ones have the highest requirements, right? So, they have to reload faster, they need to have the freshest data, they’re probably more complicated, so that’s probably a good place to start.
139 00:14:26.060 ⇒ 00:14:30.209 Greg Stoutenburg: Additionally, you may also want to.
140 00:14:30.810 ⇒ 00:14:38.800 Uttam Kumaran: What dashboards is no… what dashboards are nobody using, and can we kill them?
141 00:14:39.300 ⇒ 00:14:44.780 Uttam Kumaran: So, throughout this process, you may find garbage that you can just garbage collect and get rid of as well.
142 00:14:45.020 ⇒ 00:14:45.550 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep.
143 00:14:45.550 ⇒ 00:14:51.630 Uttam Kumaran: This article I’m just reading is pretty good.
144 00:14:51.900 ⇒ 00:15:07.890 Uttam Kumaran: But I will think about some more. It also is probably… Probably helpful to ask… For sure…
145 00:15:09.080 ⇒ 00:15:12.859 Uttam Kumaran: Does Tableau, Tableau…
146 00:15:19.320 ⇒ 00:15:29.489 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, probably helpful to ask Cursor, plus there’s this Tableau… command line reference… Plus Omnidocs…
147 00:15:29.730 ⇒ 00:15:32.130 Uttam Kumaran: To help you build out a plan.
148 00:15:32.610 ⇒ 00:15:33.010 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep.
149 00:15:35.160 ⇒ 00:15:41.089 Uttam Kumaran: Of course, you can use this transcript as well. So, I think this is roughly it. Maybe I’ll take a step back.
150 00:15:41.510 ⇒ 00:15:47.370 Uttam Kumaran: like… How familiar are you with, like, business intelligence tools, like…
151 00:15:47.600 ⇒ 00:15:50.060 Uttam Kumaran: Give me, like, a sense of, like, where…
152 00:15:50.440 ⇒ 00:15:52.520 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, where you are with that.
153 00:15:52.730 ⇒ 00:16:08.560 Greg Stoutenburg: I mean, I used… I used Tableau briefly a long time ago, but, like, briefly, briefly. And used… when I was at Stack Overflow, they had just rolled out Power BI. Okay. And I used that for, like.
154 00:16:09.010 ⇒ 00:16:11.850 Uttam Kumaran: To create dashboards, or as, like…
155 00:16:13.140 ⇒ 00:16:14.560 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, to create dashboards.
156 00:16:14.560 ⇒ 00:16:15.050 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
157 00:16:15.050 ⇒ 00:16:22.699 Greg Stoutenburg: Who, you know, Develop insights and relay findings to the teams that were interested.
158 00:16:23.120 ⇒ 00:16:26.960 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. No. Okay. I mean, so it’s… you’re just going from, like.
159 00:16:28.160 ⇒ 00:16:41.059 Uttam Kumaran: using it to just, like, setting it up for everybody. Yeah. I don’t think it’s gonna be that hard. Again, I think because you have Awash and Mustafa there, both of them have set up Omni before. I’m also gonna add you to our
160 00:16:41.450 ⇒ 00:16:44.529 Uttam Kumaran: Omni instance internally, unless you’re already there.
161 00:16:45.020 ⇒ 00:16:46.440 Greg Stoutenburg: I doubt it.
162 00:16:46.440 ⇒ 00:16:46.980 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
163 00:16:46.980 ⇒ 00:16:47.600 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep.
164 00:16:50.220 ⇒ 00:16:51.669 Uttam Kumaran: Let me do that…
165 00:16:55.390 ⇒ 00:16:57.899 Uttam Kumaran: So, I mean, we have a version, so you can go in there and…
166 00:16:58.760 ⇒ 00:17:00.599 Uttam Kumaran: Do whatever, mess around. Yeah, do whatever.
167 00:17:00.600 ⇒ 00:17:01.170 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
168 00:17:07.569 ⇒ 00:17:11.049 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I just invited you to that,
169 00:17:13.530 ⇒ 00:17:18.619 Uttam Kumaran: So yeah, I mean, I think in terms of, like, Immediate next steps?
170 00:17:19.630 ⇒ 00:17:31.120 Uttam Kumaran: I think Juan is, like… Like, a brief… meeting with… with the way sh… Would be good, and then…
171 00:17:31.120 ⇒ 00:17:31.640 Greg Stoutenburg: Yup.
172 00:17:31.640 ⇒ 00:17:33.849 Uttam Kumaran: part of this is, like, confirm EP.
173 00:17:34.140 ⇒ 00:17:38.869 Uttam Kumaran: Confirm… Like, scope and gotchas.
174 00:17:39.110 ⇒ 00:17:39.750 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep.
175 00:17:40.050 ⇒ 00:17:50.540 Uttam Kumaran: Confirm phases. I think the next thing that would be great is, like, A document outlining migration plan.
176 00:17:51.120 ⇒ 00:18:02.010 Uttam Kumaran: And if you would be so kind to also, after this, Create a generic… BI migration plan.
177 00:18:02.230 ⇒ 00:18:02.850 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep.
178 00:18:05.030 ⇒ 00:18:15.980 Uttam Kumaran: That’d be great. Doc, like, migration plan… presented, like, at…
179 00:18:16.800 ⇒ 00:18:23.760 Uttam Kumaran: I guess we can just… migration plan, presentation… Internally…
180 00:18:24.480 ⇒ 00:18:31.880 Uttam Kumaran: at Brain Forge, and then Robert can… Present the one slide.
181 00:18:33.870 ⇒ 00:18:37.860 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s that. After this… And…
182 00:18:38.720 ⇒ 00:18:46.750 Uttam Kumaran: at some… I also will… I just… I just, the Omni guy, so…
183 00:18:47.250 ⇒ 00:18:54.670 Uttam Kumaran: as soon as you’re ready, we can call him and basically… I told him that, like, this is kind of an inside job, like, we’re the team, so…
184 00:18:54.940 ⇒ 00:18:57.899 Uttam Kumaran: Like, I was like, we just need to get an instance set up.
185 00:18:58.110 ⇒ 00:19:04.160 Uttam Kumaran: Right. So, as soon as you’re comfortable, we can get an Omni… instance going…
186 00:19:05.710 ⇒ 00:19:08.890 Uttam Kumaran: I think as part of this migration plan.
187 00:19:09.400 ⇒ 00:19:16.649 Uttam Kumaran: Also, like, estimated pricing, so that… you could work with Max on that. It’s gonna be, like, the number of users they have.
188 00:19:16.960 ⇒ 00:19:17.700 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
189 00:19:21.270 ⇒ 00:19:25.440 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, I mean, I… I… I’m not surprised that if you guys pushed, you could…
190 00:19:25.720 ⇒ 00:19:34.890 Uttam Kumaran: Do this in… like, you could get to… having… them side by side, and… Probably 4 weeks.
191 00:19:35.080 ⇒ 00:19:37.550 Uttam Kumaran: I would probably not say 4 weeks.
192 00:19:37.890 ⇒ 00:19:38.520 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
193 00:19:39.560 ⇒ 00:19:42.049 Uttam Kumaran: Anything less of Forex is gonna be a lot.
194 00:19:42.270 ⇒ 00:19:43.150 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
195 00:19:44.090 ⇒ 00:19:50.000 Uttam Kumaran: But, like, if the plan ends up being 2 months, like, I’ve… I don’t think that’ll be, like, nobody will say anything.
196 00:19:50.270 ⇒ 00:19:51.020 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
197 00:19:51.020 ⇒ 00:19:52.210 Uttam Kumaran: I haven’t been…
198 00:19:52.700 ⇒ 00:19:58.109 Uttam Kumaran: like, I built a lot of the original, so I don’t know how… how many dashboards there are, or how complicated, so…
199 00:19:58.450 ⇒ 00:20:06.829 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll sort of let you guys build out the plan. I mean, yeah, if there’s a… I think this one, because it’s a straight migration, it should be pretty easy to set up a Gantt and go from there, so…
200 00:20:06.830 ⇒ 00:20:08.540 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
201 00:20:08.940 ⇒ 00:20:20.329 Greg Stoutenburg: Cool, thanks for all this. This is good. I will, I’ll digest this, and, and get working on just understanding what I need to do, and then can,
202 00:20:20.460 ⇒ 00:20:21.360 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
203 00:20:21.750 ⇒ 00:20:26.329 Greg Stoutenburg: And through that, I’ll talk to Awash and Mustafa, and figure out the first steps.
204 00:20:26.600 ⇒ 00:20:33.550 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. Yeah, and Demi on the team knows a lot about Tableau and Omni, too, so everybody knows a bunch about this stuff.
205 00:20:33.550 ⇒ 00:20:35.589 Greg Stoutenburg: I think it should be fairly safe.
206 00:20:35.590 ⇒ 00:20:39.889 Uttam Kumaran: I think, yeah, just, like, if you could take this and, like, do some research just on, like.
207 00:20:40.680 ⇒ 00:20:43.319 Uttam Kumaran: Just on, like, what tends to go wrong during these.
208 00:20:43.320 ⇒ 00:20:43.780 Greg Stoutenburg: Jeff.
209 00:20:43.780 ⇒ 00:20:45.720 Uttam Kumaran: Or, like, what to look out for.
210 00:20:45.950 ⇒ 00:20:46.950 Uttam Kumaran: Yep.
211 00:20:50.010 ⇒ 00:21:07.549 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, again, all the BI tools are doing are structuring queries to actually either visualizing them as a table, or pre-configuring them to a viz. So all we’re doing is, like, moving the pre-configured stuff over, allowing people who were exploring in Tableau, which I don’t think a lot of people are, to be able to do that.
212 00:21:07.610 ⇒ 00:21:12.339 Uttam Kumaran: and really the biggest unlock, the reason we pitched, and I think the reason that
213 00:21:13.040 ⇒ 00:21:19.579 Uttam Kumaran: they should be open to the price increase that will come with Omni as the AI feature. So, that’s really the thing that I would love to nail.
214 00:21:19.680 ⇒ 00:21:20.640 Uttam Kumaran: Yup.
215 00:21:21.030 ⇒ 00:21:25.519 Uttam Kumaran: And out of this, you’re gonna get, like… we’re gonna get, like, 15 case studies out of this project, so it’s gonna be good.
216 00:21:25.520 ⇒ 00:21:28.850 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, that’s pretty good. That is pretty good.
217 00:21:30.310 ⇒ 00:21:32.320 Greg Stoutenburg: I’ll just say, other notes.
218 00:21:33.380 ⇒ 00:21:37.390 Uttam Kumaran: just, like, Though down some thoughts, but…
219 00:21:37.680 ⇒ 00:21:38.390 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep.
220 00:21:38.390 ⇒ 00:21:38.950 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
221 00:21:44.970 ⇒ 00:21:46.710 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay,
222 00:21:50.370 ⇒ 00:21:59.049 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay. Okay, cool. This is good. I can start here. And, I mean, is anyone waiting on this right now? Like, they’re waiting to hear a plan?
223 00:21:59.050 ⇒ 00:22:05.609 Uttam Kumaran: No, I don’t know when Robert’s next ELT meeting is, so… I would say…
224 00:22:05.730 ⇒ 00:22:12.590 Uttam Kumaran: whenever that is, I hope if that’s this week… if that’s this Wednesday, then I feel like you could probably get something going by then.
225 00:22:12.590 ⇒ 00:22:13.200 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
226 00:22:13.200 ⇒ 00:22:14.280 Uttam Kumaran: But…
227 00:22:14.540 ⇒ 00:22:26.379 Uttam Kumaran: that’s probably the next immediate milestone to try to get a plan in front of them, like a one-page plan of how long things are gonna take. But otherwise, there’s no… nobody’s waiting. I think as soon as you start the clock, it’s… it’s gonna go.
228 00:22:26.380 ⇒ 00:22:27.589 Greg Stoutenburg: That’s good. Okay.
229 00:22:28.110 ⇒ 00:22:34.669 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay, that sounds good. Cool. Well, thank you for this. I’ll digest this, and I’ll keep you in the loop.
230 00:22:35.020 ⇒ 00:22:38.059 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool, and I just bumped the contract thing, so I should hear about it.
231 00:22:38.060 ⇒ 00:22:41.349 Greg Stoutenburg: Oh, yeah, yeah, Rico pinged me a minute ago, so… Okay.
232 00:22:41.500 ⇒ 00:22:43.760 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay. Yeah, good. Appreciate that. Thanks for that.
233 00:22:43.760 ⇒ 00:22:45.340 Uttam Kumaran: Alright, yeah, of course.
234 00:22:45.580 ⇒ 00:22:48.450 Greg Stoutenburg: See you in 5 minutes. Alright, bye. Bye.