Meeting Title: AI Service Standup Date: 2026-01-12 Meeting participants: Mustafa Raja, Pranav Narahari, Casie Aviles, Samuel Roberts, Gabriel Lam, Amber Lin, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:00:19.520 ⇒ 00:00:20.670 Samuel Roberts: Hey, everyone.
2 00:00:24.770 ⇒ 00:00:25.540 Mustafa Raja: Hey.
3 00:00:26.750 ⇒ 00:00:28.280 Samuel Roberts: How’s everyone today?
4 00:00:28.870 ⇒ 00:00:29.620 Mustafa Raja: Being good.
5 00:00:30.700 ⇒ 00:00:32.090 Samuel Roberts: Check in.
6 00:00:32.090 ⇒ 00:00:32.470 Mustafa Raja: How are you?
7 00:00:33.689 ⇒ 00:00:34.969 Samuel Roberts: I’m doing okay.
8 00:00:36.429 ⇒ 00:00:38.619 Samuel Roberts: Feeling better, mostly, so that’s good.
9 00:00:43.029 ⇒ 00:00:44.349 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
10 00:00:45.429 ⇒ 00:00:46.839 Samuel Roberts: Everyone have a good weekend?
11 00:00:47.670 ⇒ 00:00:49.930 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I got… I got good rest.
12 00:00:50.910 ⇒ 00:00:51.830 Samuel Roberts: Excellent.
13 00:00:51.830 ⇒ 00:00:53.090 Mustafa Raja: Shitty here.
14 00:00:57.100 ⇒ 00:00:58.609 Samuel Roberts: Cool. Anyone else?
15 00:01:02.870 ⇒ 00:01:04.180 Pranav Narahari: Had a pretty good weekend.
16 00:01:04.810 ⇒ 00:01:09.090 Pranav Narahari: I got with some friends for, for a friend’s birthday, so…
17 00:01:09.090 ⇒ 00:01:09.900 Samuel Roberts: Oh, nice.
18 00:01:10.200 ⇒ 00:01:10.600 Pranav Narahari: Yeah.
19 00:01:10.600 ⇒ 00:01:11.539 Samuel Roberts: So that’s good.
20 00:01:13.360 ⇒ 00:01:14.380 Pranav Narahari: What about you?
21 00:01:15.530 ⇒ 00:01:18.230 Samuel Roberts: Pretty low-key. It snowed here a bunch.
22 00:01:18.430 ⇒ 00:01:20.799 Samuel Roberts: So, it kind of gross outside.
23 00:01:21.840 ⇒ 00:01:25.299 Samuel Roberts: But… Yeah, pretty low-key, which is nice, but I…
24 00:01:25.570 ⇒ 00:01:30.010 Samuel Roberts: Went into the weekend not feeling great still, so… It’s nice to just rest.
25 00:01:33.370 ⇒ 00:01:37.080 Pranav Narahari: Probably still another year before, the baby can play in the snow.
26 00:01:37.510 ⇒ 00:01:38.080 Pranav Narahari: Right.
27 00:01:38.080 ⇒ 00:01:42.869 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, yeah, he’s… he’ll… yeah, next… next winter will be… will be a blast.
28 00:01:43.270 ⇒ 00:01:44.030 Pranav Narahari: Yeah.
29 00:01:44.440 ⇒ 00:01:46.470 Samuel Roberts: That’s true, that’s true.
30 00:01:49.930 ⇒ 00:01:55.160 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, he hasn’t touched snow yet at all, actually, now that I think about it, we should just get him out there and just get his hands in it.
31 00:01:55.700 ⇒ 00:01:59.819 Pranav Narahari: Yeah, probably can’t even just, like, look at it and see like that, it looks cool.
32 00:02:00.030 ⇒ 00:02:01.150 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, yeah.
33 00:02:05.110 ⇒ 00:02:06.270 Samuel Roberts: Hey, Gabe.
34 00:02:09.270 ⇒ 00:02:10.030 Gabriel Lam: Morning.
35 00:02:11.470 ⇒ 00:02:12.159 Amber Lin: There you go.
36 00:02:12.370 ⇒ 00:02:14.520 Amber Lin: internal…
37 00:02:17.810 ⇒ 00:02:18.479 Samuel Roberts: Hi, Amber.
38 00:02:18.810 ⇒ 00:02:19.960 Amber Lin: Hello!
39 00:02:22.590 ⇒ 00:02:23.659 Samuel Roberts: Are you today?
40 00:02:27.010 ⇒ 00:02:32.129 Amber Lin: That was good. I… I forgot that our meeting was at 7.
41 00:02:32.650 ⇒ 00:02:34.780 Samuel Roberts: Oh, great. Yeah, okay.
42 00:02:37.270 ⇒ 00:02:38.750 Amber Lin: They’re all good.
43 00:02:39.040 ⇒ 00:02:40.279 Samuel Roberts: Okay, good, good.
44 00:02:40.790 ⇒ 00:02:42.650 Amber Lin: Alright, well, I guess.
45 00:02:43.830 ⇒ 00:02:50.089 Samuel Roberts: I mean, who are we still getting lunch on here? But we can get started, at least, so we don’t take too much time.
46 00:02:50.360 ⇒ 00:02:52.879 Samuel Roberts: I guess let’s jump into ABC.
47 00:02:53.520 ⇒ 00:02:55.140 Samuel Roberts: Oh, there he is. Look at that.
48 00:02:55.420 ⇒ 00:02:56.890 Samuel Roberts: Perfect timing.
49 00:03:00.800 ⇒ 00:03:01.760 Samuel Roberts: Hello?
50 00:03:03.370 ⇒ 00:03:04.110 Uttam Kumaran: Hey guys.
51 00:03:08.140 ⇒ 00:03:10.120 Samuel Roberts: Can everyone see what I got up here?
52 00:03:11.950 ⇒ 00:03:12.730 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
53 00:03:15.420 ⇒ 00:03:22.129 Samuel Roberts: Alright, so let’s start with ABC, I guess, update CSO-wise first, or…
54 00:03:23.680 ⇒ 00:03:27.339 Samuel Roberts: Any, any updates from the client or anything? I guess?
55 00:03:31.150 ⇒ 00:03:32.219 Casie Aviles: Yeah, okay.
56 00:03:32.750 ⇒ 00:03:37.190 Casie Aviles: I can start with my tickets here for the UI, so…
57 00:03:38.390 ⇒ 00:03:41.930 Casie Aviles: Yeah, the… I already have, like, the staging app.
58 00:03:44.200 ⇒ 00:03:50.359 Casie Aviles: working, so I think… what I need to do is get it… get Janiece testing that.
59 00:03:50.910 ⇒ 00:03:52.220 Casie Aviles: Okay, proof.
60 00:03:53.040 ⇒ 00:04:00.069 Casie Aviles: So, right now, it’s… Yeah, it’s just within our environment, so… yeah.
61 00:04:00.420 ⇒ 00:04:04.490 Casie Aviles: For this week, I want to get it in front of her, and then get any feedback.
62 00:04:05.030 ⇒ 00:04:12.160 Casie Aviles: that… From her, as she tests it, and then… Iterate on that.
63 00:04:12.830 ⇒ 00:04:15.560 Casie Aviles: in the admin UI, and then have it…
64 00:04:15.920 ⇒ 00:04:19.809 Casie Aviles: I’m released to staging also this week. Or, sorry, I mean live.
65 00:04:20.060 ⇒ 00:04:21.519 Casie Aviles: Yeah, have it live, yeah.
66 00:04:21.529 ⇒ 00:04:26.069 Samuel Roberts: Okay. Yeah, I think we need to add some basic authentication to that, too.
67 00:04:27.040 ⇒ 00:04:34.670 Casie Aviles: Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, that’s currently missing right now as well. I don’t have… I didn’t implement, like, a simple login yet for there.
68 00:04:35.040 ⇒ 00:04:37.810 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I’m wondering if there’s even a way to just do, like, a…
69 00:04:38.480 ⇒ 00:04:44.990 Samuel Roberts: like, a browser login. You know, sometimes, like, the browser prompts you for a username and password in order to even access a site.
70 00:04:46.870 ⇒ 00:04:53.660 Samuel Roberts: Rather than, like… because we could get our own UI in there for now, but just to make sure that no one else is seeing the, like, even the test data.
71 00:04:55.130 ⇒ 00:04:55.750 Casie Aviles: Yeah.
72 00:04:56.410 ⇒ 00:04:56.960 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
73 00:04:57.820 ⇒ 00:05:00.420 Casie Aviles: Yeah, take a look at that before we get that out to her, because I want…
74 00:05:00.590 ⇒ 00:05:06.310 Samuel Roberts: a little more protection from… even though it’s the development data, it’s still a bunch of people’s names and stuff, so…
75 00:05:06.510 ⇒ 00:05:08.680 Casie Aviles: Okay, yeah, yeah.
76 00:05:09.170 ⇒ 00:05:10.840 Samuel Roberts: Cool. Anything else?
77 00:05:12.350 ⇒ 00:05:18.780 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, for… For my side, for 1569, I need a review from Amber.
78 00:05:20.420 ⇒ 00:05:21.020 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
79 00:05:21.610 ⇒ 00:05:25.520 Mustafa Raja: And then we’ll be able to decide on 1553.
80 00:05:26.480 ⇒ 00:05:29.720 Mustafa Raja: And then for this week, I’ll be working on 1562.
81 00:05:33.940 ⇒ 00:05:35.460 Mustafa Raja: The evaluation dataset.
82 00:05:37.040 ⇒ 00:05:37.600 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
83 00:05:38.850 ⇒ 00:05:39.540 Samuel Roberts: Great.
84 00:05:41.890 ⇒ 00:05:42.270 Mustafa Raja: Boom.
85 00:05:42.270 ⇒ 00:05:54.830 Amber Lin: I just added the new tickets based on our Gantt chart, so that would just be, the one that’s unassigned, and also the core evaluation metrics.
86 00:05:59.010 ⇒ 00:06:00.630 Samuel Roberts: Yes, okay, cool.
87 00:06:01.780 ⇒ 00:06:02.540 Samuel Roberts: Yep.
88 00:06:03.040 ⇒ 00:06:03.820 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
89 00:06:04.050 ⇒ 00:06:11.919 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I mean, this is gonna, be similar to getting into valuation data set, so those kind of go hand-in-hand, they’re definitely distinct, but…
90 00:06:12.390 ⇒ 00:06:15.150 Samuel Roberts: Work together on those.
91 00:06:15.960 ⇒ 00:06:21.170 Samuel Roberts: And then, yeah, this will probably flow right after we validate and make the decision there.
92 00:06:21.540 ⇒ 00:06:22.210 Mustafa Raja: Yep.
93 00:06:22.880 ⇒ 00:06:23.480 Samuel Roberts: Cool.
94 00:06:24.760 ⇒ 00:06:28.960 Samuel Roberts: Any other thoughts today?
95 00:06:30.640 ⇒ 00:06:32.940 Samuel Roberts: It all seems like a pretty good plan.
96 00:06:37.390 ⇒ 00:06:41.170 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, for the, for the migrate templates.
97 00:06:41.400 ⇒ 00:06:55.680 Mustafa Raja: those are in, what’s it called, Google Sheet. Do we want to, just, leave them there, or do we want to, have the same retrieval logic that we have for cancellations and stuff?
98 00:06:57.270 ⇒ 00:07:00.939 Samuel Roberts: the templates? I don’t… I guess I don’t have full context into what the templates are yet.
99 00:07:00.940 ⇒ 00:07:01.630 Mustafa Raja: So…
100 00:07:01.920 ⇒ 00:07:15.300 Mustafa Raja: So templates, I do believe they live in the Central Docs, as well as the Google Sheets, right? So, what happens is Andy looks into the names of the templates, and then pulls the templates from the…
101 00:07:15.410 ⇒ 00:07:25.910 Mustafa Raja: From the Google Sheets. We could do a similar, similar logic for them, with this retrieval logic that we built.
102 00:07:26.150 ⇒ 00:07:29.390 Mustafa Raja: But I’m wondering if that’s even worth it or not.
103 00:07:29.760 ⇒ 00:07:34.419 Mustafa Raja: We could just migrate, what we have right now over.
104 00:07:37.340 ⇒ 00:07:41.350 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, what are the current, like, issues with the way the templates are working?
105 00:07:41.350 ⇒ 00:07:44.779 Mustafa Raja: I don’t think it has any issues.
106 00:07:45.080 ⇒ 00:07:47.290 Samuel Roberts: Okay, then I would say, yeah, let’s just not do that yet.
107 00:07:47.290 ⇒ 00:07:47.760 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
108 00:07:47.760 ⇒ 00:07:48.699 Samuel Roberts: If we need to.
109 00:07:49.380 ⇒ 00:07:50.419 Samuel Roberts: We’ll do it later.
110 00:07:50.700 ⇒ 00:07:51.820 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
111 00:07:52.340 ⇒ 00:07:53.170 Samuel Roberts: Great.
112 00:07:55.620 ⇒ 00:07:56.950 Samuel Roberts: Anything else? Bonnie.
113 00:07:56.950 ⇒ 00:08:02.699 Mustafa Raja: One issue, I think, would be is if they add any new templates, we will have to manually add them to Sheets.
114 00:08:04.370 ⇒ 00:08:06.629 Samuel Roberts: So we’re maintaining that sheets from the central dock, is that.
115 00:08:06.630 ⇒ 00:08:12.299 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I think, yeah, I think we are. Ember, are we maintaining the templates, Google Sheet?
116 00:08:12.940 ⇒ 00:08:17.910 Amber Lin: Yes, they can add things to it, but I don’t think they have.
117 00:08:18.230 ⇒ 00:08:18.720 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
118 00:08:19.590 ⇒ 00:08:22.060 Samuel Roberts: But when they add things, they add it to the central dock, is that correct?
119 00:08:22.060 ⇒ 00:08:23.040 Mustafa Raja: Yes.
120 00:08:25.650 ⇒ 00:08:27.459 Samuel Roberts: then I think we would definitely want to…
121 00:08:27.820 ⇒ 00:08:32.029 Samuel Roberts: Put that on the list of things to do later, then, so that we keep that up to date.
122 00:08:32.409 ⇒ 00:08:35.530 Samuel Roberts: But if it’s working for now, it’s focused on the things that aren’t.
123 00:08:38.049 ⇒ 00:08:38.599 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
124 00:08:42.000 ⇒ 00:08:47.190 Samuel Roberts: Other ABC thoughts for the week, even, just overall, since it’s Monday?
125 00:08:49.510 ⇒ 00:08:56.989 Amber Lin: Can we reasonably complete what we have over here? And then… I think…
126 00:08:58.250 ⇒ 00:09:05.409 Amber Lin: One of the tickets, the zip… the tech zip code is missing estimates.
127 00:09:06.060 ⇒ 00:09:09.099 Samuel Roberts: Hmm… Yes, it is.
128 00:09:11.260 ⇒ 00:09:15.970 Casie Aviles: Yeah, let me estimate it as… the two points.
129 00:09:16.410 ⇒ 00:09:17.440 Samuel Roberts: 2 points. Okay.
130 00:09:17.680 ⇒ 00:09:21.489 Amber Lin: I can do that. Cool.
131 00:09:23.690 ⇒ 00:09:24.079 Samuel Roberts: Thank you.
132 00:09:24.080 ⇒ 00:09:32.409 Amber Lin: It’s not good, for… Both of you, and there’s another task that doesn’t have an assignee yet.
133 00:09:32.960 ⇒ 00:09:35.790 Amber Lin: Like, the… the last one.
134 00:09:35.790 ⇒ 00:09:36.630 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
135 00:09:37.510 ⇒ 00:09:40.340 Samuel Roberts: How are we looking?
136 00:09:41.410 ⇒ 00:09:48.169 Samuel Roberts: Science by any… I want to measure…
137 00:09:48.550 ⇒ 00:09:50.630 Samuel Roberts: I want to do it by…
138 00:09:53.660 ⇒ 00:09:59.049 Pranav Narahari: Also, Utam, did you mention that I would be getting onboarded to ABC this week?
139 00:10:01.400 ⇒ 00:10:04.030 Uttam Kumaran: We didn’t talk about it yet, but yeah.
140 00:10:04.190 ⇒ 00:10:07.559 Uttam Kumaran: Basically, I would love to have maybe a,
141 00:10:08.050 ⇒ 00:10:11.630 Uttam Kumaran: Maybe we can assign Pranav, like, an easy ticket or something.
142 00:10:12.520 ⇒ 00:10:17.110 Uttam Kumaran: Sam, so you can start to just, like, understand the system here.
143 00:10:17.760 ⇒ 00:10:20.319 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, it’s good.
144 00:10:20.900 ⇒ 00:10:22.979 Samuel Roberts: Good thought. I’m not sure if there’s…
145 00:10:24.120 ⇒ 00:10:27.919 Samuel Roberts: something easy here. I mean, the metrics…
146 00:10:31.230 ⇒ 00:10:33.440 Casie Aviles: Yeah, or… hmm.
147 00:10:35.510 ⇒ 00:10:38.170 Casie Aviles: Because I think that the zip code part,
148 00:10:38.450 ⇒ 00:10:41.630 Casie Aviles: I think that might need some context on you.
149 00:10:41.890 ⇒ 00:10:46.559 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I don’t think any of that makes sense yet. Okay, we can… we can sort something like that out.
150 00:10:46.840 ⇒ 00:10:50.479 Samuel Roberts: Maybe even if you just, like.
151 00:10:51.230 ⇒ 00:10:54.750 Samuel Roberts: Pair with someone doing something for a minute, just to get…
152 00:10:54.750 ⇒ 00:10:59.139 Amber Lin: Maybe the eval metrics, would that be an easier part to start?
153 00:10:59.370 ⇒ 00:11:01.820 Samuel Roberts: You think… yeah, I mean, I think that’s probably a good…
154 00:11:02.950 ⇒ 00:11:06.549 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, that would force you to get into the data and take a look at what’s there and everything, too.
155 00:11:07.940 ⇒ 00:11:09.700 Pranav Narahari: Yeah, I can take a look at this.
156 00:11:10.090 ⇒ 00:11:10.650 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
157 00:11:11.170 ⇒ 00:11:12.250 Samuel Roberts: I will…
158 00:11:15.670 ⇒ 00:11:18.519 Samuel Roberts: off that. Okay, yeah, and definitely don’t, you know.
159 00:11:18.660 ⇒ 00:11:24.539 Samuel Roberts: Feel free to reach out to anyone, and we can even talk through what that means, a little bit more context that isn’t maybe here.
160 00:11:24.780 ⇒ 00:11:25.370 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
161 00:11:25.370 ⇒ 00:11:25.950 Pranav Narahari: Perfect.
162 00:11:25.950 ⇒ 00:11:26.810 Samuel Roberts: But, yeah.
163 00:11:28.040 ⇒ 00:11:31.199 Samuel Roberts: Okay, other thoughts? Anything good? Anything else?
164 00:11:32.420 ⇒ 00:11:36.740 Samuel Roberts: I think we can assign this later, once we have some of this stuff worked out a little bit better.
165 00:11:38.070 ⇒ 00:11:38.680 Mustafa Raja: Yep.
166 00:11:39.440 ⇒ 00:11:40.619 Samuel Roberts: Cool. Okay.
167 00:11:41.050 ⇒ 00:11:47.540 Samuel Roberts: ABC is good, then. So… Something low.
168 00:11:49.400 ⇒ 00:12:07.310 Pranav Narahari: Yeah, for Lilo, the updates that I saw was after the client meeting on Friday, like, in the evening, Bobby’s actually able to give, like, a lot of feedback. He, like, wrote up two documents, and then also gave some feedback on the MCP, like, servers. Sam, I saw that you responded to that.
169 00:12:07.940 ⇒ 00:12:10.419 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, it’s a different era now.
170 00:12:11.990 ⇒ 00:12:13.950 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, so…
171 00:12:13.950 ⇒ 00:12:19.079 Pranav Narahari: I’ll add a little bit more context to, like, the MCP ticket that’s in progress.
172 00:12:19.360 ⇒ 00:12:29.920 Pranav Narahari: And then also, for the document, one of them has to do with the Slack reports, and so I’ll put that in the… the other in-progress ticket as well.
173 00:12:29.990 ⇒ 00:12:45.909 Pranav Narahari: Other than that, I think, those aren’t gonna be… those are kind of expected. We expected to see, like, some… probably, like, bugs, or just, like, things that need to be added for, like, the MCP stuff, and then Slack was definitely meant to just be, like, a…
174 00:12:46.130 ⇒ 00:12:51.800 Pranav Narahari: a POC for Friday, so I still feel pretty good about, Thursday being a…
175 00:12:52.220 ⇒ 00:12:55.089 Pranav Narahari: a good day to wrap up Phase 1.
176 00:12:56.350 ⇒ 00:12:56.870 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
177 00:12:58.190 ⇒ 00:12:59.030 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think we’re pretty…
178 00:12:59.030 ⇒ 00:13:02.609 Uttam Kumaran: Similarly, I think, like, we’re looping in Casey this week.
179 00:13:02.780 ⇒ 00:13:08.230 Uttam Kumaran: Yep. So I want to make sure he has some tickets, assigned.
180 00:13:09.890 ⇒ 00:13:11.300 Samuel Roberts: Yeah. Yeah.
181 00:13:11.300 ⇒ 00:13:17.210 Pranav Narahari: Maybe what I can do is, we can pair a little bit on, the Slack reporting.
182 00:13:18.360 ⇒ 00:13:19.540 Samuel Roberts: That’s really helpful.
183 00:13:19.950 ⇒ 00:13:25.640 Pranav Narahari: And then, since I know Casey has, like, a lot of experience with, creating Slack bots,
184 00:13:26.110 ⇒ 00:13:34.919 Pranav Narahari: it could be, like, good for us to, like, maybe brainstorm a design together, and then he can actually, like, be the one to implement, and then I can focus on the rest of the stuff in Todo.
185 00:13:36.730 ⇒ 00:13:38.349 Casie Aviles: Yeah, that sounds good.
186 00:13:39.090 ⇒ 00:13:41.219 Samuel Roberts: I don’t know if I’m gonna assign this just to…
187 00:13:42.240 ⇒ 00:13:42.910 Pranav Narahari: You can…
188 00:13:42.910 ⇒ 00:13:43.940 Samuel Roberts: there, but…
189 00:13:43.940 ⇒ 00:13:44.530 Pranav Narahari: Yeah.
190 00:13:45.770 ⇒ 00:13:48.719 Samuel Roberts: But yeah, you guys can pair on that. Perfect. Okay.
191 00:13:48.860 ⇒ 00:13:53.649 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I’m gonna try to sort out some of the… The meta stuff still?
192 00:13:53.860 ⇒ 00:13:57.790 Samuel Roberts: I think it’s just… it’s a weird…
193 00:13:58.250 ⇒ 00:14:07.029 Samuel Roberts: Like, I’m not sure that new error that he just sent, but I’ll coordinate with them, because I think they’re… they had to approve the app on their side and everything, so…
194 00:14:08.120 ⇒ 00:14:09.109 Samuel Roberts: I think we’re getting good.
195 00:14:15.650 ⇒ 00:14:18.770 Pranav Narahari: Actually, I also need to create another ticket for a…
196 00:14:18.930 ⇒ 00:14:22.980 Pranav Narahari: just, comparing Cloud Code, Codex, and Replit.
197 00:14:23.930 ⇒ 00:14:24.520 Samuel Roberts: Yes.
198 00:14:24.880 ⇒ 00:14:26.000 Pranav Narahari: I’ll do that right now.
199 00:14:26.380 ⇒ 00:14:27.360 Samuel Roberts: Okay, great.
200 00:14:30.240 ⇒ 00:14:31.080 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
201 00:14:31.560 ⇒ 00:14:38.699 Samuel Roberts: Okay. Yeah, some issues with the context, too, I gotta dig into.
202 00:14:40.990 ⇒ 00:14:47.949 Samuel Roberts: They’re hitting, like, a really… they hit the context limit, and that’s why they weren’t seeing errors, or they weren’t getting anything from that one response.
203 00:14:50.090 ⇒ 00:14:55.160 Pranav Narahari: Gotcha, I wonder if there’s, like, a hard code for, the AI SDK?
204 00:14:57.220 ⇒ 00:14:59.020 Samuel Roberts: For… the token.
205 00:14:59.570 ⇒ 00:15:02.430 Samuel Roberts: I thought we were hitting a cloud limit, maybe.
206 00:15:02.940 ⇒ 00:15:04.599 Samuel Roberts: I think it might be the…
207 00:15:06.560 ⇒ 00:15:07.810 Pranav Narahari: Oh, okay.
208 00:15:09.020 ⇒ 00:15:11.389 Samuel Roberts: 1, 2, 200,000, right?
209 00:15:13.600 ⇒ 00:15:17.700 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, so I think it’s either that the data that it’s pulling from the MCP is huge.
210 00:15:18.430 ⇒ 00:15:26.670 Samuel Roberts: or the history is just… we’re not… we’re not… we gotta restrict that a little bit more if there’s big requests or something, but I gotta dig in and see.
211 00:15:26.670 ⇒ 00:15:27.190 Pranav Narahari: Okay.
212 00:15:27.620 ⇒ 00:15:29.550 Samuel Roberts: So, I’ll… I’ll take that,
213 00:15:30.560 ⇒ 00:15:33.639 Samuel Roberts: Might be another… this is all…
214 00:15:34.680 ⇒ 00:15:38.490 Samuel Roberts: Good, I just want another MCP debug kind of thing here.
215 00:15:43.870 ⇒ 00:15:48.550 Samuel Roberts: I’ll make a ticket once I figure out what the ticket actually will entail, once I figure out what’s going on here.
216 00:15:51.050 ⇒ 00:15:51.850 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
217 00:15:52.280 ⇒ 00:15:56.300 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think we’re pretty good for Thursday. I’m hoping that… I mean, things are…
218 00:15:56.420 ⇒ 00:16:07.639 Samuel Roberts: working, there’s just gonna be some… a few of these things, so I… it’s not as… the MCP and all those things talking to each other was what I really wanted to test out in the stage… or the dev environment, but probably good to promote that to staging.
219 00:16:08.540 ⇒ 00:16:14.119 Samuel Roberts: And let them run there, but at this point, I’d rather just make sure we get everything good and just push it all the way up to Prague.
220 00:16:15.590 ⇒ 00:16:21.949 Samuel Roberts: Because I don’t think it’s worth just saying, like, oh, staging’s identical to what you guys were just doing in test, but, maybe…
221 00:16:22.570 ⇒ 00:16:28.140 Samuel Roberts: what are we, Monday? Thursday? Maybe tomorrow we make it a goal to get everything into staging, just to, like.
222 00:16:28.460 ⇒ 00:16:30.269 Samuel Roberts: Make sure we have that transition.
223 00:16:30.390 ⇒ 00:16:35.119 Samuel Roberts: Making sense, for the environment variables, and then as long as that’s good, we’ll just push it right to prod.
224 00:16:35.800 ⇒ 00:16:39.570 Samuel Roberts: And that gives us a day to let them test it in prod, make sure that…
225 00:16:40.790 ⇒ 00:16:52.449 Pranav Narahari: Yeah, I think Wednesday, getting everything into prod, like, probably by end of day, that seems like, that seems like a good goal. And then they have, yeah, all day Thursday to kind of rip it apart a little bit, and then we can have some…
226 00:16:52.710 ⇒ 00:16:57.270 Pranav Narahari: you know, just hotfix branches that we can just, like, merge in on Thursday.
227 00:16:57.680 ⇒ 00:16:58.240 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
228 00:16:58.470 ⇒ 00:17:00.490 Samuel Roberts: Okay, great. Sounds like a good plan.
229 00:17:01.850 ⇒ 00:17:04.760 Samuel Roberts: Anything else? Other thoughts there on Lilo?
230 00:17:06.400 ⇒ 00:17:12.409 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think they’re just gonna start… they’re gonna be streaming in a bunch of feedback, so feel free to create tickets as they come in.
231 00:17:12.770 ⇒ 00:17:19.240 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, I think, like, the feedback, like, I can tell that they’re just trying to, like.
232 00:17:19.589 ⇒ 00:17:24.719 Uttam Kumaran: You know, test everything out, so just if you guys can just… but don’t worry about responding, like.
233 00:17:25.030 ⇒ 00:17:26.839 Uttam Kumaran: Late at night.
234 00:17:27.030 ⇒ 00:17:27.740 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
235 00:17:28.530 ⇒ 00:17:30.489 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, no, my thing looks good.
236 00:17:30.570 ⇒ 00:17:36.030 Samuel Roberts: yeah, I think they’re… as long as they’re getting feedback into us, then we’ll process it as we get it, and hopefully…
237 00:17:36.160 ⇒ 00:17:44.189 Samuel Roberts: things will be overlapping, and it won’t be, you know, every single thing is a separate bug, because I’m pretty sure whatever’s going on with these two things is related.
238 00:17:45.350 ⇒ 00:17:46.330 Pranav Narahari: Also,
239 00:17:46.510 ⇒ 00:17:53.480 Pranav Narahari: Utam, for the Gantt chart that I think you presented, like, last week with them, I think you mentioned there’s, like, some Phase 2…
240 00:17:54.850 ⇒ 00:17:55.440 Pranav Narahari: Oh.
241 00:17:55.440 ⇒ 00:17:56.250 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah…
242 00:17:56.690 ⇒ 00:17:57.560 Pranav Narahari: We should probably think on.
243 00:17:57.560 ⇒ 00:17:59.489 Uttam Kumaran: Probably work with you on that, yeah.
244 00:18:00.950 ⇒ 00:18:04.169 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll just put something in my calendar to take a look at that.
245 00:18:09.130 ⇒ 00:18:10.040 Samuel Roberts: Hold on.
246 00:18:14.490 ⇒ 00:18:21.539 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, on… probably, I’m gonna… I’ll get a little bit more involved on Andy’s stuff this week. Last week was just, like…
247 00:18:21.810 ⇒ 00:18:22.480 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
248 00:18:22.900 ⇒ 00:18:26.680 Uttam Kumaran: Was last week the first week back? Wow, yeah, that’s a long week.
249 00:18:26.680 ⇒ 00:18:28.550 Samuel Roberts: I wasn’t hitting it. Yeah.
250 00:18:28.550 ⇒ 00:18:33.959 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, this week, I’ll, I’ll be switching, kind of, to focus on, Andy and ABC.
251 00:18:34.240 ⇒ 00:18:42.590 Uttam Kumaran: So I’ll probably end up grabbing time with Amber, and then with, With y’all, as needed.
252 00:18:44.330 ⇒ 00:18:56.090 Uttam Kumaran: I think one thing that I’m gonna also work with Clarence on is, like, this ABC is a client with, like, multiple work streams, but even within Andy, we have, like, a lot of technical stuff, and, like.
253 00:18:56.740 ⇒ 00:19:01.310 Uttam Kumaran: sort of client-facing stuff, so I’m trying to… maybe this is something that we can discuss in our…
254 00:19:01.700 ⇒ 00:19:05.040 Uttam Kumaran: EP call or a CSO call, which is just, like…
255 00:19:05.220 ⇒ 00:19:08.779 Uttam Kumaran: How do we… how do we handle a client with multiple work streams?
256 00:19:09.050 ⇒ 00:19:14.699 Uttam Kumaran: Because I do know that there’s, like, a bunch of technical roadmap, there’s also, like, the,
257 00:19:15.000 ⇒ 00:19:18.270 Uttam Kumaran: Business-facing roadmap, and we’re working on discovery stuff.
258 00:19:18.590 ⇒ 00:19:28.530 Uttam Kumaran: But yeah, I’ll probably get a little bit more involved this week on the technical side, just to make sure that we have all the… enough resources and, like, kind of understand where we’re pushing to.
259 00:19:28.630 ⇒ 00:19:36.050 Uttam Kumaran: They really like the admin UI, Casey, so I just want to make sure, like, that getting out would be, like, massive.
260 00:19:36.480 ⇒ 00:19:42.450 Uttam Kumaran: You know, so anything like that that we can do would… would be… would be great.
261 00:19:45.220 ⇒ 00:19:58.519 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I mean, feel free to challenge me on this, Casey, but I think by the end of the week, we could probably have that out, assuming we get, like, feedback from Janice in a timely manner, and, like, can act on it, or she’s happy with it, you know, whatever, however that goes early in the week, hopefully.
262 00:19:59.140 ⇒ 00:19:59.700 Casie Aviles: Nope.
263 00:20:00.250 ⇒ 00:20:02.319 Samuel Roberts: I think I’m optimistic about getting that.
264 00:20:02.530 ⇒ 00:20:13.850 Samuel Roberts: getting that out, but, you know, I… that’s… if she has, like, a different way she’s looking at, like, I want… that’s why the user testing is going to be important, because, you know, we have ideas, but wanting… making sure that it fits her workflow is going to be more important than anything.
265 00:20:16.290 ⇒ 00:20:26.949 Casie Aviles: Okay. Yeah, yeah, I think it’s, it’s, it should be… I can, I can have it, like, accessible to her already, since it’s already up.
266 00:20:26.950 ⇒ 00:20:36.949 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, yeah, I would just share with her. I’m… I… like I said, I kind of want, something that’s just, like, type a code in before you get to the page, so I don’t know if that’s…
267 00:20:37.420 ⇒ 00:20:39.209 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, I’ll do that as well.
268 00:20:40.000 ⇒ 00:20:46.819 Samuel Roberts: you know, just anything, just so that it’s not… if people are scraping the web, they’re not gonna land on a page with a bunch of people’s information.
269 00:20:48.150 ⇒ 00:20:54.439 Samuel Roberts: And then, yeah, then share it with her, and just, you know, either get on a call with her, have her afford a loom, do whatever it is that, like.
270 00:20:54.580 ⇒ 00:20:56.879 Samuel Roberts: Just get her feedback in some form.
271 00:20:58.240 ⇒ 00:21:01.309 Samuel Roberts: And make sure that it fits her workflow the way we think it will.
272 00:21:03.290 ⇒ 00:21:03.920 Casie Aviles: Okay.
273 00:21:05.240 ⇒ 00:21:15.080 Samuel Roberts: But yeah, I mean, we thought through a few flows, or you thought through a few flows that I think made sense, but I just want to make sure she’s, you know, it’s not, like, really a lot of clicks to do something that she’s going to be doing a ton of times, kind of thing.
274 00:21:21.890 ⇒ 00:21:25.529 Samuel Roberts: All right, other thoughts there? Or should we move to internal?
275 00:21:28.610 ⇒ 00:21:29.649 Samuel Roberts: Alright, here we go.
276 00:21:30.600 ⇒ 00:21:38.139 Gabriel Lam: Sure, quick update from last week. I met with some of the CSOs, just to go over cursor.
277 00:21:38.310 ⇒ 00:21:40.420 Gabriel Lam: There seems to be…
278 00:21:40.660 ⇒ 00:21:54.399 Gabriel Lam: like, a lot of excitement there. Zoran did mention something about… so he had a question about using, like, Zed as opposed to Cursor, mostly because he likes a more lightweight solution. But I looked into what Z is
279 00:21:54.700 ⇒ 00:21:57.169 Gabriel Lam: has less functionality, and so…
280 00:21:57.290 ⇒ 00:22:16.189 Gabriel Lam: Because he built everything on cursor, I just suggested that he… if he’s able to set it up to go with that. Another thing that they had thought of, and maybe this is a question for Utam, which was how to… any way to integrate some sort of, like, project roadmap documentation onto SOWs, or whether that’s something you’re interested in.
281 00:22:16.420 ⇒ 00:22:28.969 Gabriel Lam: I was thinking either, like, a link to Instagant, or some sort of software where, you know, an SOW just, like, gives you clear guidelines for that, or if it’s, like, some sort of mermaid syntax.
282 00:22:29.360 ⇒ 00:22:38.450 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so I spent, like, 30 minutes last week looking into, programmable Gantt charts, and everything suck.
283 00:22:38.890 ⇒ 00:22:41.029 Samuel Roberts: I’ve done the same thing.
284 00:22:41.030 ⇒ 00:22:48.190 Uttam Kumaran: So, I was like, okay, either we have to build our own, which is, like, probably need a month.
285 00:22:48.480 ⇒ 00:22:49.449 Uttam Kumaran: For me to…
286 00:22:49.640 ⇒ 00:22:54.760 Uttam Kumaran: figure out how to build our own, like, Gantt software, basically, because what they did is not, like, that hard.
287 00:22:54.940 ⇒ 00:22:56.089 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
288 00:22:56.560 ⇒ 00:23:03.859 Uttam Kumaran: Or we need to basically take one of the open source ones, fork it, and, like, sort of improve on it.
289 00:23:05.810 ⇒ 00:23:11.829 Uttam Kumaran: those are kind of both, too, like, kind of a little bit taxing. The second… the last option is, yes, we…
290 00:23:11.930 ⇒ 00:23:14.150 Uttam Kumaran: We need to just arrive at, like.
291 00:23:14.590 ⇒ 00:23:18.810 Uttam Kumaran: As part of the SOW section, there is the timeline.
292 00:23:18.810 ⇒ 00:23:24.349 Gabriel Lam: That’s, like, the lowest hanging fruit of, like, copy-pasting into some existing software.
293 00:23:24.760 ⇒ 00:23:35.970 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, I also, like, I do think that, part of our sales process, the SOWs, we’re gonna work on with the client, like, especially as we go, bigger and bigger.
294 00:23:35.970 ⇒ 00:23:48.879 Uttam Kumaran: part of what we’re gonna start doing is what we call, like, it’s just co-authoring scope with clients. So it’s not gonna be, like, we’re working on SOW, send them, they approve, like, I want to get them to engage with it. So I do feel like maybe Instagant
295 00:23:48.900 ⇒ 00:23:55.850 Uttam Kumaran: is just the best version. However, not every not every client we’re gonna have.
296 00:23:56.070 ⇒ 00:24:11.299 Uttam Kumaran: like that. Or maybe we have boilerplate instagance for, like, understood scopes, and then we’re like, this is, like, what it could look like. Because I don’t want our team to be doing, like, we can’t be spending, like, hours on planning before the contract starts.
297 00:24:11.950 ⇒ 00:24:17.470 Uttam Kumaran: So, yeah, I’m open to your suggestions. I do think that I, like.
298 00:24:17.590 ⇒ 00:24:19.770 Uttam Kumaran: Maybe part of this is also, like.
299 00:24:20.110 ⇒ 00:24:26.010 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, we can meet this week and sort of break down the SOW and think about, like, are we happy with each section?
300 00:24:26.570 ⇒ 00:24:32.240 Uttam Kumaran: Maybe there’s a simpler,
301 00:24:32.520 ⇒ 00:24:35.350 Uttam Kumaran: There’s a simpler version that we can do.
302 00:24:35.750 ⇒ 00:24:39.290 Uttam Kumaran: That makes it into the AI SOW, basically.
303 00:24:40.440 ⇒ 00:24:41.749 Uttam Kumaran: As, like, a mermaid.
304 00:24:42.170 ⇒ 00:24:46.420 Uttam Kumaran: Or, yeah.
305 00:24:47.930 ⇒ 00:24:53.579 Gabriel Lam: Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I’ll look into that. It’s kind of, like, where I’m at, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
306 00:24:54.680 ⇒ 00:24:55.500 Gabriel Lam: Sorry, Sam, go.
307 00:24:55.500 ⇒ 00:25:05.169 Samuel Roberts: I think a spike on the, like, Gantt area in general would be good, like, something… because I did a little bit… I did a quick, like, 30 minutes, too, just trying to see, like, what even had APIs that we could hit.
308 00:25:05.280 ⇒ 00:25:16.249 Samuel Roberts: or, you know, text in Obsidian, just trying to figure out something, or even thinking through what features we would really want if it is something that we would have to, like, fork or build, would probably be worth having some documentation on that to help us.
309 00:25:16.570 ⇒ 00:25:18.530 Samuel Roberts: Long term.
310 00:25:19.820 ⇒ 00:25:27.200 Samuel Roberts: And I think that that could look like, what are the tools out there? How accessible are they to, like, being modified by us, or…
311 00:25:27.410 ⇒ 00:25:31.050 Samuel Roberts: or cursor using APIs, or, you know, scripts or whatever.
312 00:25:31.150 ⇒ 00:25:34.249 Samuel Roberts: Or what does it look like to fork or build our own?
313 00:25:34.850 ⇒ 00:25:36.210 Samuel Roberts: I think it’d be a really…
314 00:25:36.710 ⇒ 00:25:40.180 Samuel Roberts: Useful idea, if that’s something that’s gonna be our blocker in some way.
315 00:25:41.560 ⇒ 00:25:42.190 Gabriel Lam: Okay.
316 00:25:43.290 ⇒ 00:25:43.720 Gabriel Lam: Oh, my.
317 00:25:43.720 ⇒ 00:25:50.119 Samuel Roberts: I have a few thoughts on that. I did a little bit of search, but I didn’t… I didn’t keep track. Like, I did, like, a quick 30-minute thing, kind of like what Tom said.
318 00:25:50.120 ⇒ 00:25:53.669 Gabriel Lam: I’ll reach out to you about that then, and just, like, see… just pick your brain.
319 00:25:53.670 ⇒ 00:25:55.460 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
320 00:25:56.720 ⇒ 00:25:59.059 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, on the other side, I’m… I’m…
321 00:25:59.060 ⇒ 00:26:05.570 Gabriel Lam: I’ve got a… I’ve set up a meeting with Ops to go over their Notion, new Notion…
322 00:26:06.260 ⇒ 00:26:09.729 Gabriel Lam: reorg, so once that’s…
323 00:26:09.890 ⇒ 00:26:19.379 Gabriel Lam: fleshed out, it’ll be a lot easier to bring that into Cursor. I’m also talking to them about Google Docs, and to see what… how our Google Docs is basically being organized.
324 00:26:19.500 ⇒ 00:26:22.000 Gabriel Lam: Just as a stopgap, because
325 00:26:22.530 ⇒ 00:26:28.179 Gabriel Lam: like, Roberts and, like, a lot of the sales side is all done through Google Drive.
326 00:26:28.350 ⇒ 00:26:32.270 Gabriel Lam: So, that’s gonna happen today. I’m also gonna talk with Hannah today about
327 00:26:32.450 ⇒ 00:26:36.350 Gabriel Lam: the AI slides, basically, and, like, what works best.
328 00:26:36.580 ⇒ 00:26:42.929 Gabriel Lam: Prior conversation seems to suggest that they don’t need a full solution, they just need more, like, better copy.
329 00:26:43.350 ⇒ 00:26:53.279 Gabriel Lam: But I’ll… I’ll be able to update you tomorrow about that. And I think that’s pretty much it for internal.
330 00:26:55.470 ⇒ 00:26:56.130 Uttam Kumaran: Hey.
331 00:26:58.700 ⇒ 00:27:03.829 Samuel Roberts: I guess that’s all we’ve got today, unless anyone has anything I missed.
332 00:27:07.120 ⇒ 00:27:07.810 Samuel Roberts: Cool.
333 00:27:09.730 ⇒ 00:27:13.980 Samuel Roberts: Alright, yeah, I guess let’s hit the ground running, guys.
334 00:27:14.210 ⇒ 00:27:18.159 Samuel Roberts: So, I… you and I have a meeting later, right?
335 00:27:19.980 ⇒ 00:27:20.680 Pranav Narahari: Yep.
336 00:27:21.270 ⇒ 00:27:26.560 Samuel Roberts: Okay, and then, I want to make sure you and Casey get together, at least.
337 00:27:27.570 ⇒ 00:27:28.910 Samuel Roberts: To talk through.
338 00:27:28.910 ⇒ 00:27:34.500 Pranav Narahari: Yeah, I’ll, I’ll set up some time with you, Casey, I’ll take a look at your schedule, and then,
339 00:27:34.770 ⇒ 00:27:39.659 Pranav Narahari: We can do a little bit of peer programming, and then we can maybe just do, like, some brainstorming about that,
340 00:27:39.940 ⇒ 00:27:48.930 Pranav Narahari: the reports for Slack. I can, I’m not sure if you have, like, full context based on just, like, the meeting from last week, and so I can, like, fill in any gaps and knowledge that you may have.
341 00:27:48.930 ⇒ 00:27:49.530 Samuel Roberts: Great.
342 00:27:49.850 ⇒ 00:27:50.320 Casie Aviles: Okay.
343 00:27:50.320 ⇒ 00:28:02.480 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think… I think one, sorry, one low-hanging piece, maybe once you guys meet, you can let me know, like, what we plan to hand off to Casey. But I do think getting the nano-banana thing ported is, like.
344 00:28:02.820 ⇒ 00:28:03.280 Uttam Kumaran: end-to-end.
345 00:28:03.280 ⇒ 00:28:03.840 Samuel Roberts: and…
346 00:28:04.380 ⇒ 00:28:08.059 Uttam Kumaran: Like, thing that he can work in isolation, that they would be very, very happy to hear that we’re working.
347 00:28:08.060 ⇒ 00:28:10.459 Samuel Roberts: That would be a huge win for them, yeah.
348 00:28:10.460 ⇒ 00:28:10.900 Pranav Narahari: Cool.
349 00:28:11.190 ⇒ 00:28:16.540 Uttam Kumaran: So… I… my… my gut instinct is, like, that’s, like, a good… First.
350 00:28:16.910 ⇒ 00:28:22.439 Uttam Kumaran: item, and then also, yeah, collaborate with him on getting all the contacts on Slack, but…
351 00:28:22.640 ⇒ 00:28:25.800 Uttam Kumaran: That’s something they’ve just been, you know, mentioning bunch and bunch. Yeah.
352 00:28:28.970 ⇒ 00:28:30.260 Samuel Roberts: Sounds good. Cool. Yep.
353 00:28:32.060 ⇒ 00:28:33.549 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, and then a banana will be good.
354 00:28:34.380 ⇒ 00:28:40.850 Samuel Roberts: And that’s pretty isolated, hopefully, so it’s not gonna interact with… it’s not gonna interfere with too many other things going on, merge-wise.
355 00:28:41.940 ⇒ 00:28:51.159 Samuel Roberts: Cool, alright. Yeah, that’s, the meeting. Have a great week, everyone. Well, I’ll be chatting, but, good to see everyone.
356 00:28:51.350 ⇒ 00:28:52.450 Samuel Roberts: And, yeah.
357 00:28:52.740 ⇒ 00:28:53.689 Samuel Roberts: Talk to y’all later.
358 00:28:53.860 ⇒ 00:28:54.370 Mustafa Raja: Thank you.
359 00:28:54.370 ⇒ 00:29:08.159 Uttam Kumaran: So, one last question. I wanted to ask people about Cloud Code. I have to repurchase it. Are you guys… you guys all want to test it this month? Yes. Like, is anyone using it on their own? Okay, then let me just figure it out, and I’ll get everyone access.
360 00:29:09.560 ⇒ 00:29:11.060 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I’m definitely down the test.
361 00:29:11.060 ⇒ 00:29:16.900 Uttam Kumaran: But I’d like us to decide what we want to use, because I’m going to start paying for, like, a lot of the… a lot of…
362 00:29:16.900 ⇒ 00:29:18.710 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, yeah, I don’t think… I don’t think it makes sense to do.
363 00:29:18.910 ⇒ 00:29:22.040 Uttam Kumaran: Well, I’m paying for a cursor, we already have Codex.
364 00:29:22.210 ⇒ 00:29:24.339 Uttam Kumaran: Wrapped in our normal stuff.
365 00:29:25.250 ⇒ 00:29:25.680 Samuel Roberts: Right.
366 00:29:25.680 ⇒ 00:29:27.260 Uttam Kumaran: We can do Cloud Code.
367 00:29:28.290 ⇒ 00:29:31.970 Uttam Kumaran: I’m… I wanna give you guys whatever the best is, but if Codex…
368 00:29:32.350 ⇒ 00:29:35.940 Uttam Kumaran: is basically the same, just, like, crappier UI than…
369 00:29:37.720 ⇒ 00:29:40.830 Uttam Kumaran: would rather just… Yeah, have us use that.
370 00:29:41.190 ⇒ 00:29:46.060 Samuel Roberts: I mean, to be honest, I’m pretty happy with Cursor, because it lets me bounce around models a little bit more.
371 00:29:46.550 ⇒ 00:29:51.409 Samuel Roberts: Like, if I want to use plot, I’ll use it, but… That’s my…
372 00:29:51.410 ⇒ 00:29:53.249 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’m also happy with Cursor.
373 00:29:53.250 ⇒ 00:29:56.899 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I mean, it’s definitely worth investigating, I guess, but,
374 00:29:57.240 ⇒ 00:30:00.570 Samuel Roberts: you know, I don’t think it’s the end of the world if we just decide to stick with one.
375 00:30:00.930 ⇒ 00:30:04.970 Samuel Roberts: Oh yeah, codec’s also already having, and this is good to keep in mind, because I forget about that.
376 00:30:05.380 ⇒ 00:30:06.010 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
377 00:30:07.550 ⇒ 00:30:08.040 Samuel Roberts: Cool.
378 00:30:08.040 ⇒ 00:30:10.899 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think we’re basically gonna get to a point where,
379 00:30:12.390 ⇒ 00:30:15.779 Uttam Kumaran: And this is something that, as I… my time frees up, like, I’ll sort of…
380 00:30:16.160 ⇒ 00:30:30.769 Uttam Kumaran: kind of pioneer a bit internally, is that we’ll, we’ll start to spend more time just getting the linear ticket right, and then… and then working within linear and… and, like, codecs to… to execute. Especially for you… for y’all who are doing, like.
381 00:30:30.930 ⇒ 00:30:37.040 Uttam Kumaran: app building stuff. The data side, it’s a little bit hard, but on the app building side, we should totally try and…
382 00:30:37.270 ⇒ 00:30:41.360 Uttam Kumaran: leveraged AI tools to build Some of the easy features.
383 00:30:41.580 ⇒ 00:30:43.799 Uttam Kumaran: Or at least take the first pass at stuff.
384 00:30:44.050 ⇒ 00:30:52.060 Uttam Kumaran: So, it’ll be something that, like… it’s just tough, we have to think about how do we do branching, and how do we have everybody interacting with agents, and then have that all centralized and linear.
385 00:30:52.660 ⇒ 00:30:58.269 Uttam Kumaran: But that’ll be probably something, if I can free up this month, that that’ll be something I look at next… next.
386 00:30:59.170 ⇒ 00:30:59.550 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
387 00:30:59.550 ⇒ 00:31:15.409 Samuel Roberts: side project stuff, been working on, like, a wedding website for my sister, and it’s pretty basic, but every once in a while, I get a request from her, and I go into, like, my personal cursor and chat with it online, and it makes a nice PR for me, right? Like, it’s… it’s amazing what it can actually do, like, from the phone.
388 00:31:15.790 ⇒ 00:31:25.540 Samuel Roberts: So I imagine if it’s linear and it’s more well-defined than me just chatting with it, like, add this date kind of thing, like, even cursor is probably going to be pretty good with that. So cursor code, like, there’s a lot to…
389 00:31:26.270 ⇒ 00:31:27.620 Samuel Roberts: Potentially tie there.
390 00:31:28.860 ⇒ 00:31:31.319 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, perfect. And I’m supposed to be due.
391 00:31:31.320 ⇒ 00:31:36.529 Samuel Roberts: I don’t know what Codex does, but Curtis lets you do, like, multiple models and run them all and see what the PRs look like.
392 00:31:37.450 ⇒ 00:31:38.529 Samuel Roberts: Which is…
393 00:31:38.530 ⇒ 00:31:39.140 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, really?
394 00:31:39.140 ⇒ 00:31:41.460 Samuel Roberts: And yeah, so, like, it uses.
395 00:31:41.460 ⇒ 00:31:42.409 Uttam Kumaran: Wow, he’s a promo?
396 00:31:42.410 ⇒ 00:31:43.180 Samuel Roberts: at least.
397 00:31:43.640 ⇒ 00:31:45.150 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, just online.
398 00:31:46.120 ⇒ 00:31:47.100 Uttam Kumaran: Hmm…
399 00:31:48.390 ⇒ 00:31:54.630 Samuel Roberts: So if we have… I don’t know, I bet… I bet Cursor Online already can connect to…
400 00:31:56.460 ⇒ 00:32:00.300 Samuel Roberts: I don’t know offhand, this is the dashboard, this is the agents, but yeah, you can, like…
401 00:32:00.620 ⇒ 00:32:06.529 Samuel Roberts: multiple models, and it makes, like, a bunch of PRs if you want them, and you can look at them all and compare them.
402 00:32:06.860 ⇒ 00:32:13.220 Samuel Roberts: pretty nice online. So, if that connects to Linear 2, which I think… The cloud agents can…
403 00:32:14.720 ⇒ 00:32:17.490 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I can. So that’s something to definitely play with.
404 00:32:18.420 ⇒ 00:32:19.389 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, great.
405 00:32:19.390 ⇒ 00:32:24.660 Samuel Roberts: like, inside linear is cool too, but, like, if it’s… even if it’s, you know, spinning at multiple ones when Chris or online would be sweet.
406 00:32:26.240 ⇒ 00:32:27.080 Samuel Roberts: Cool.
407 00:32:27.370 ⇒ 00:32:28.120 Samuel Roberts: Alright, everyone.
408 00:32:28.120 ⇒ 00:32:29.810 Uttam Kumaran: Alright, thank you guys.
409 00:32:30.230 ⇒ 00:32:30.550 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
410 00:32:30.550 ⇒ 00:32:31.190 Gabriel Lam: Thank you.
411 00:32:32.550 ⇒ 00:32:33.280 Pranav Narahari: There you go.
412 00:32:33.710 ⇒ 00:32:34.020 Mustafa Raja: Young.