Meeting Title: Airbnb Hosting Experiences and Cooking Date: 2026-01-09 Meeting participants: Holly Condos, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:00:07.410 ⇒ 00:00:08.430 Holly Condos: Hey.
2 00:00:12.320 ⇒ 00:00:13.180 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, hi.
3 00:00:13.660 ⇒ 00:00:14.599 Holly Condos: Hey, how are you?
4 00:00:15.170 ⇒ 00:00:20.199 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, good, how are you? Just, like, got outside to the coffee shop to try to…
5 00:00:20.560 ⇒ 00:00:25.279 Uttam Kumaran: Out of beans in my house, so… Pay full price.
6 00:00:25.280 ⇒ 00:00:30.299 Holly Condos: Oh, no. Hey, hold on just a second, I have to shut the reefer’s George Bieving.
7 00:00:30.300 ⇒ 00:00:31.740 Uttam Kumaran: No problem.
8 00:00:40.330 ⇒ 00:00:41.880 Holly Condos: Did you hear that?
9 00:00:43.770 ⇒ 00:00:44.900 Holly Condos: Okay, cool.
10 00:00:45.290 ⇒ 00:00:48.119 Holly Condos: Well, I have to order…
11 00:00:48.430 ⇒ 00:00:53.380 Holly Condos: some coffee for the Vermont house, because our last Airbnb renters
12 00:00:54.130 ⇒ 00:00:57.980 Holly Condos: Like, drank everything I had except for a few bites.
13 00:00:57.980 ⇒ 00:00:58.640 Uttam Kumaran: Sure.
14 00:00:58.640 ⇒ 00:00:59.550 Holly Condos: pods.
15 00:01:01.230 ⇒ 00:01:02.970 Holly Condos: I’m like, wow, okay.
16 00:01:04.170 ⇒ 00:01:07.280 Uttam Kumaran: How has it been, you know, Airbnb-ing?
17 00:01:08.230 ⇒ 00:01:14.410 Holly Condos: Interesting. So, we’ve never done it until… last year.
18 00:01:14.830 ⇒ 00:01:22.650 Holly Condos: And I think I told you, so we have two houses, right? San Diego and Vermont?
19 00:01:23.350 ⇒ 00:01:24.010 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
20 00:01:24.750 ⇒ 00:01:30.709 Holly Condos: Okay, so the Vermont house, we put up…
21 00:01:30.820 ⇒ 00:01:34.450 Holly Condos: I think last December in 2024.
22 00:01:34.650 ⇒ 00:01:42.329 Holly Condos: And, you know, I’m kind of, A neat freak.
23 00:01:42.600 ⇒ 00:01:55.879 Holly Condos: And, like, everything has to be in its place, so I go out of my way, which I think, you know, like, every time I go to an Airbnb, I want it to be just, like, relaxing and not have to worry about anything.
24 00:01:56.900 ⇒ 00:01:57.530 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
25 00:01:58.220 ⇒ 00:02:06.639 Holly Condos: Our second guest… was a group of… I don’t know, they were probably 25 or so?
26 00:02:06.970 ⇒ 00:02:10.700 Holly Condos: And they had 2 little dogs, which we allowed.
27 00:02:10.910 ⇒ 00:02:19.739 Holly Condos: But the… but the requirement is that they be house-trained, and one of them wasn’t. And so that was kind of,
28 00:02:20.610 ⇒ 00:02:29.469 Holly Condos: shocking, but, you know, I mean, I just bisselled the rug, and we got through it, and it was fine. So, I think it… to answer the question, I think
29 00:02:30.290 ⇒ 00:02:35.980 Holly Condos: It’s a learning… Curve, and also, like.
30 00:02:36.700 ⇒ 00:02:48.700 Holly Condos: you know, like, sharing your house with someone. I mean, this is not our primary residence, so, like, we don’t have all our stuff from Europe here, right? Like, we don’t have valuables, per se.
31 00:02:49.720 ⇒ 00:02:51.610 Uttam Kumaran: So… I see, okay, okay.
32 00:02:51.610 ⇒ 00:02:52.649 Holly Condos: I think it’s good.
33 00:02:54.490 ⇒ 00:02:59.110 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, it’s weird, I don’t know, I have friends here who also do, like… have you heard of Turo? It’s like the…
34 00:02:59.880 ⇒ 00:03:04.780 Uttam Kumaran: R… I just, like, don’t like… I just don’t like sharing…
35 00:03:04.780 ⇒ 00:03:09.559 Holly Condos: Like, I don’t even know how I really survived in New York, but I’m not a big, like.
36 00:03:09.790 ⇒ 00:03:23.600 Uttam Kumaran: Like, I… we… I used to Uber pull when I didn’t have much money, you know? But, like, yeah, these days, I’m, like, totally, like, I don’t want other people. I like having friends over, and if, like, for example, I have… if people are in Austin, and I’m not here, and they want to
37 00:03:23.710 ⇒ 00:03:25.030 Uttam Kumaran: Stay at the house instead of.
38 00:03:25.030 ⇒ 00:03:25.390 Holly Condos: Yeah.
39 00:03:25.390 ⇒ 00:03:27.010 Uttam Kumaran: I’m totally fine for that.
40 00:03:27.220 ⇒ 00:03:30.559 Holly Condos: So, I don’t know, something about the, like.
41 00:03:30.560 ⇒ 00:03:38.099 Uttam Kumaran: put it on the marketplace, I don’t know, but I am a customer, so maybe I… but it’s interesting psychology, I don’t know.
42 00:03:38.100 ⇒ 00:03:40.990 Holly Condos: Well, and the other thing is,
43 00:03:41.420 ⇒ 00:03:53.080 Holly Condos: and I don’t know if most Airbnb owners do this, but, like, I have a separate set of… I think most people do it, but I have, like, a renter set of towels, right?
44 00:03:53.080 ⇒ 00:03:59.419 Uttam Kumaran: Usually people do that, yeah, they have, like, a… there’s a closet that’s, like, closed off with all their stuff, yeah.
45 00:03:59.420 ⇒ 00:04:02.539 Holly Condos: Yeah, because I don’t want to use… I don’t know, I just…
46 00:04:02.760 ⇒ 00:04:07.049 Holly Condos: I’m weird that way, I guess, but, like, all the bedding, all the pillows…
47 00:04:07.240 ⇒ 00:04:11.190 Holly Condos: are either for renters or not. Or for us.
48 00:04:11.190 ⇒ 00:04:12.610 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah.
49 00:04:12.860 ⇒ 00:04:15.760 Holly Condos: But it’s a lot of work to change all that over, right?
50 00:04:16.300 ⇒ 00:04:17.999 Uttam Kumaran: It is. No, it is.
51 00:04:19.349 ⇒ 00:04:26.269 Holly Condos: But so far, so far, it’s worth it. So right now, what I, what I agreed with my husband was that
52 00:04:26.629 ⇒ 00:04:34.520 Holly Condos: We… we set a KPI of renting 20 nights last year, and… Did 22.
53 00:04:34.930 ⇒ 00:04:35.580 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
54 00:04:35.580 ⇒ 00:04:41.690 Holly Condos: So, so I beat it, right? And, and…
55 00:04:42.210 ⇒ 00:04:46.470 Holly Condos: We… we agreed that we would cover the taxes.
56 00:04:46.720 ⇒ 00:04:52.289 Holly Condos: And then, you know, start building the nest egg for things like a spa and other improvements.
57 00:04:52.290 ⇒ 00:04:52.920 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
58 00:04:53.510 ⇒ 00:04:57.970 Holly Condos: So, this year, we’re already,
59 00:04:58.210 ⇒ 00:05:01.499 Holly Condos: For Q1, we’ve got, I think, 10 nights.
60 00:05:02.290 ⇒ 00:05:02.780 Holly Condos: Which is…
61 00:05:02.780 ⇒ 00:05:03.549 Uttam Kumaran: Great. Great.
62 00:05:04.570 ⇒ 00:05:05.379 Holly Condos: So we’ll see how.
63 00:05:05.380 ⇒ 00:05:05.990 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, wonderful.
64 00:05:05.990 ⇒ 00:05:08.359 Holly Condos: It’s only the second year, right?
65 00:05:10.620 ⇒ 00:05:11.070 Holly Condos: It is.
66 00:05:11.070 ⇒ 00:05:13.720 Uttam Kumaran: That’s another thing to manage.
67 00:05:13.720 ⇒ 00:05:20.709 Holly Condos: It’s, it’s funny, I mean, I, you know, I came out because I put up a Christmas tree for the Christmas renters.
68 00:05:20.900 ⇒ 00:05:28.149 Holly Condos: Which, you know, my husband’s like, don’t worry about it. I’m like, no, wouldn’t it be cool? They came from Austin.
69 00:05:28.830 ⇒ 00:05:32.270 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, great, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, they’re coming from Escape.
70 00:05:32.550 ⇒ 00:05:34.020 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
71 00:05:34.020 ⇒ 00:05:45.279 Holly Condos: Yeah, and they loved it. They loved the kitchen, right? They cooked. She made a comment in the review that it was so nice to go to an Airbnb that had sharp cooking knives.
72 00:05:45.890 ⇒ 00:05:46.290 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
73 00:05:46.290 ⇒ 00:05:52.780 Holly Condos: That’s just basic, right? Like, how can you… and I’ve been at some in Mammoth where the knives suck.
74 00:05:53.270 ⇒ 00:05:56.959 Uttam Kumaran: No, every single one I go to, they have 100 knives, and they all suck.
75 00:05:57.420 ⇒ 00:06:01.849 Uttam Kumaran: I’m like, throw all of these away, and just have, like, 3 that work.
76 00:06:02.230 ⇒ 00:06:09.239 Holly Condos: Yeah, I… and again, I have a separate set of… because I have, like, you know, Japanese knives, and…
77 00:06:10.020 ⇒ 00:06:11.900 Holly Condos: I mean, you cook, you know.
78 00:06:12.300 ⇒ 00:06:15.280 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I have German, I have old German knives, yeah.
79 00:06:15.480 ⇒ 00:06:21.430 Holly Condos: Right? Like, I just… I put those away, and then I have a nice set, I…
80 00:06:21.430 ⇒ 00:06:25.650 Uttam Kumaran: But you can get still, like, there’s, like, Victreonics is another, like.
81 00:06:25.920 ⇒ 00:06:32.500 Uttam Kumaran: That’s great. It’s, like, a great starter knife, and it’s… yeah, it’s… and I have a sharpener, and so you can just leave the sharpener and be like.
82 00:06:32.500 ⇒ 00:06:39.130 Holly Condos: Yeah, I have a sharpener too, I just, you know, send the instructions if you want to sharpen the knives, it’s there.
83 00:06:39.560 ⇒ 00:06:40.020 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
84 00:06:40.020 ⇒ 00:06:42.389 Holly Condos: So, yeah, it’s kind of an interesting…
85 00:06:42.530 ⇒ 00:06:47.510 Holly Condos: interesting to see people’s responses, too. We had one group in the summer
86 00:06:48.070 ⇒ 00:06:59.830 Holly Condos: It was 10 guys, all in their 30s. They do… they’re buddies from high school, I guess, and they do an annual golf weekend with each other.
87 00:07:00.170 ⇒ 00:07:09.099 Holly Condos: And, so they came in August, and we have a pool. It’s not heated, but, you know, it’s a nice pool.
88 00:07:09.230 ⇒ 00:07:20.189 Holly Condos: But, like, we’re in the mountains. We’re literally on the mountain, right? So, he… his com… and the pool was clean the morning they arrived by our pool guy.
89 00:07:20.550 ⇒ 00:07:30.380 Holly Condos: But the renter said, you know, I didn’t want to leave this in a public review. You guys were great hosts, but there was a leaf and a worm in the pool.
90 00:07:31.700 ⇒ 00:07:32.550 Uttam Kumaran: What?
91 00:07:32.550 ⇒ 00:07:36.280 Holly Condos: And my husband and I looked at each other like, Really?
92 00:07:36.980 ⇒ 00:07:37.750 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
93 00:07:37.750 ⇒ 00:07:44.670 Holly Condos: Like, this guy’s a state trooper, right? A leaf. Okay, yeah, you’re surrounded by hundreds of trees.
94 00:07:44.750 ⇒ 00:07:46.960 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
95 00:07:46.960 ⇒ 00:07:48.210 Holly Condos: And number two, a warm…
96 00:07:48.210 ⇒ 00:07:53.900 Uttam Kumaran: Also, like, I’ve been to so many Airbnbs where there’s way more than that in the pool. You open it up.
97 00:07:53.900 ⇒ 00:07:55.880 Holly Condos: That was… that was kind of weird.
98 00:07:56.850 ⇒ 00:08:06.050 Holly Condos: Anyway… Alright, so for… for… I had a donut with,
99 00:08:06.570 ⇒ 00:08:10.160 Holly Condos: shoot, what’s his name? This is terrible, I can’t remember. He was sick.
100 00:08:10.160 ⇒ 00:08:11.050 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, engineering.
101 00:08:11.350 ⇒ 00:08:12.720 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, Mustafa?
102 00:08:12.720 ⇒ 00:08:13.890 Holly Condos: Yeah, Mustafa.
103 00:08:14.480 ⇒ 00:08:17.770 Holly Condos: He’s great. He’s really cool. Yeah, we talked about this.
104 00:08:17.770 ⇒ 00:08:21.400 Uttam Kumaran: Very, very sweet. Do you know he’s, you know this is his first job?
105 00:08:21.700 ⇒ 00:08:22.650 Holly Condos: No.
106 00:08:22.970 ⇒ 00:08:24.429 Uttam Kumaran: This was his first job.
107 00:08:24.430 ⇒ 00:08:25.870 Holly Condos: Wow, he’s killing me.
108 00:08:26.220 ⇒ 00:08:27.480 Uttam Kumaran: He’s killing it.
109 00:08:27.480 ⇒ 00:08:32.049 Holly Condos: Right. He’s never been… he’s never been out of Pakistan, he’s never been out on a flight before.
110 00:08:32.230 ⇒ 00:08:33.940 Holly Condos: I asked him that. He said he had.
111 00:08:33.940 ⇒ 00:08:34.380 Uttam Kumaran: And…
112 00:08:34.380 ⇒ 00:08:35.299 Holly Condos: No.
113 00:08:35.860 ⇒ 00:08:39.620 Uttam Kumaran: And I hired him, I met him on Discord.
114 00:08:39.620 ⇒ 00:08:40.630 Holly Condos: Okay, wow.
115 00:08:40.659 ⇒ 00:08:48.979 Uttam Kumaran: I met him… I met him on an AI soft… like, one of the softwares that we use. I’m in my… I’m in all the communities for all of them.
116 00:08:48.980 ⇒ 00:08:49.360 Holly Condos: Yeah.
117 00:08:49.360 ⇒ 00:08:53.789 Uttam Kumaran: And I went in there, and I saw someone… I was trying to learn it, and then someone was
118 00:08:54.000 ⇒ 00:08:58.690 Uttam Kumaran: really smart, and I just DM’d, I’m like, what do you do for work? Come work for us.
119 00:08:58.820 ⇒ 00:09:06.270 Uttam Kumaran: And he was like, I’m not working at all, like, I totally love… I’m just doing this as a hobby. And I was like, no longer.
120 00:09:06.650 ⇒ 00:09:12.600 Holly Condos: Yeah, he seemed really excited about the company, and doing the work, and…
121 00:09:12.920 ⇒ 00:09:18.930 Holly Condos: you know, that… that he could actually get paid for doing something that he enjoys, so…
122 00:09:18.930 ⇒ 00:09:21.130 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, wonderful.
123 00:09:21.130 ⇒ 00:09:26.900 Holly Condos: I didn’t say it was his first job, but… But, yeah, kind of… Kind of green, but really.
124 00:09:26.900 ⇒ 00:09:27.510 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
125 00:09:27.510 ⇒ 00:09:28.410 Holly Condos: really cool.
126 00:09:28.910 ⇒ 00:09:29.730 Uttam Kumaran: That’s great.
127 00:09:30.050 ⇒ 00:09:34.260 Holly Condos: Yeah, and I love Eliza, she’s great.
128 00:09:34.750 ⇒ 00:09:35.840 Uttam Kumaran: She’s great, yeah.
129 00:09:36.700 ⇒ 00:09:53.699 Uttam Kumaran: So, a lot of what we’re… we’re trying to bring, like, this next group is mainly just to get time off of our plates, and even today, I sent a bunch of notes being like, I want to try to go for, like, 4 hours of meetings a day. How do we get there? I’m currently at, like, 6 to 8 a day. How do I get out of that?
130 00:09:53.850 ⇒ 00:09:58.389 Holly Condos: Yeah, I think that that is going to be doable,
131 00:09:58.390 ⇒ 00:09:58.980 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
132 00:09:59.240 ⇒ 00:10:04.829 Holly Condos: I mentioned, I think, earlier in the week that I was going to meet with Luke, so we talked yesterday.
133 00:10:05.230 ⇒ 00:10:07.070 Holly Condos: Right. And,
134 00:10:08.450 ⇒ 00:10:23.509 Holly Condos: he was just, you know, I… I was probably… I probably, like, talked more than he did, but I was kind of excited about things, and… and just, you know, like, engaging with him. Like, he’s… he’s just a good fit, I think, and…
135 00:10:23.620 ⇒ 00:10:32.319 Holly Condos: a lot of what I was talking about, as far as the partnership push goes, he… he’s really stoked. So,
136 00:10:32.810 ⇒ 00:10:44.830 Holly Condos: And we both… we both kind of independently said that, you know, our goal, one of our goals, is to take stuff off you guys’ plates, and… and help you, you know…
137 00:10:45.590 ⇒ 00:10:51.219 Holly Condos: Take the empowerment, catch the ball from you empowering us, right?
138 00:10:51.430 ⇒ 00:11:08.210 Holly Condos: and… and run with it, and help you do more of what you guys should be doing. So, that mindset, I think, is, is fairly granular across the group now. I, I, you know, I think everybody… what happened, though, with,
139 00:11:09.410 ⇒ 00:11:10.640 Holly Condos: with Jed.
140 00:11:12.050 ⇒ 00:11:15.680 Uttam Kumaran: He just wasn’t doing it, like, yeah. And…
141 00:11:16.050 ⇒ 00:11:16.550 Holly Condos: Yeah.
142 00:11:16.550 ⇒ 00:11:21.330 Uttam Kumaran: We, yeah, he just wasn’t getting his stuff done, and it was too slow, and… Yeah.
143 00:11:21.450 ⇒ 00:11:27.170 Uttam Kumaran: Rico’s covering… Rico’s covering a little bit, and we’re gonna find someone else, probably.
144 00:11:27.320 ⇒ 00:11:30.040 Holly Condos: Okay. Yeah, I was on,
145 00:11:31.580 ⇒ 00:11:34.470 Holly Condos: Maybe it was the services meeting?
146 00:11:34.570 ⇒ 00:11:37.430 Holly Condos: Or no, it was Monday. It was the go-to-market.
147 00:11:37.800 ⇒ 00:11:43.340 Holly Condos: And Robert had… you probably saw it, right? Like, he sent out a little, hey, I put.
148 00:11:43.340 ⇒ 00:11:43.690 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
149 00:11:43.690 ⇒ 00:11:47.439 Holly Condos: Another, you know, you’ve got 3 hours before we meet to blah blah blah.
150 00:11:48.110 ⇒ 00:11:53.930 Holly Condos: And he outlined, you know, who he… Expected to do what, and…
151 00:11:54.270 ⇒ 00:11:59.140 Holly Condos: Jed came to that meeting with, like, oh, I haven’t done any of it, and I was like, oh boy.
152 00:11:59.740 ⇒ 00:12:05.779 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, this is just a tough place to hide, like, I would say, at our size.
153 00:12:05.780 ⇒ 00:12:07.450 Holly Condos: You know, so I don’t…
154 00:12:07.450 ⇒ 00:12:20.660 Uttam Kumaran: It’s not gonna… and I also, I’m so… I’m very less emotional, I’m sort of like, hey, we’re gonna try with as many people, we’re gonna expect that not everybody works out, so I’m a lot less… I’m more about, like, can we find out…
155 00:12:20.660 ⇒ 00:12:21.820 Holly Condos: Definitely pissed.
156 00:12:22.630 ⇒ 00:12:25.389 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, Robert is definitely gonna be pissed. I have… I’ve…
157 00:12:25.500 ⇒ 00:12:30.009 Uttam Kumaran: I’ve churned through a lot of that on the delivery side, so he’s,
158 00:12:30.260 ⇒ 00:12:41.480 Uttam Kumaran: I feel like he hasn’t… he hasn’t bared the brunt of the, like, this person’s not working out, I’m usually the one to say that, so it’s good. But I’m glad to say… he actually finally has, like, a sales crew, which is great, you know?
159 00:12:41.480 ⇒ 00:12:43.020 Holly Condos: Yeah, yeah, definitely.
160 00:12:43.150 ⇒ 00:12:46.599 Uttam Kumaran: So you said you like to cook?
161 00:12:48.070 ⇒ 00:12:54.059 Uttam Kumaran: Yes, I made pesto this week, although I, I don’t have enough basil growing to…
162 00:12:54.820 ⇒ 00:12:59.349 Uttam Kumaran: to, like, do, like, a whole… as much pesto as I want with just basil, so I cut it.
163 00:12:59.620 ⇒ 00:13:02.899 Uttam Kumaran: The cheat way with, like, some kale and some spinach.
164 00:13:02.900 ⇒ 00:13:05.230 Holly Condos: Oh, nice, right, right, okay.
165 00:13:05.230 ⇒ 00:13:08.709 Uttam Kumaran: It’s great, it turns out… you get a lot of basil, great.
166 00:13:08.710 ⇒ 00:13:09.929 Holly Condos: Yeah, yeah.
167 00:13:10.830 ⇒ 00:13:14.180 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t think what else I made. This week, I made panko shrimp.
168 00:13:14.610 ⇒ 00:13:15.350 Holly Condos: Oh, nice.
169 00:13:15.350 ⇒ 00:13:22.500 Uttam Kumaran: My girlfriend didn’t want me to fry it. She’s like, oh, this is what… I don’t want unhealthy. I’m like, okay, I’ll bake it. It turned out pretty good.
170 00:13:23.740 ⇒ 00:13:25.309 Uttam Kumaran: How did you guys meet?
171 00:13:26.140 ⇒ 00:13:27.699 Uttam Kumaran: We met on Hinge.
172 00:13:28.070 ⇒ 00:13:29.289 Holly Condos: Oh, you did? Okay.
173 00:13:29.420 ⇒ 00:13:42.410 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, we met on Hinge. She grew up here in Austin. Yeah, well, I told her I wanna… she… she loves the beach, and we have yet to go on a beach trip, really. We went to Carmel once, but it was cold, we didn’t go to the beach.
174 00:13:42.610 ⇒ 00:13:44.390 Holly Condos: Yeah, you should be in San Diego.
175 00:13:44.390 ⇒ 00:13:48.719 Uttam Kumaran: I told her, I said, we have someone on the team that’s in San Diego, I said.
176 00:13:48.820 ⇒ 00:13:54.560 Uttam Kumaran: when… if I take you to San Diego, you will never want to leave, so I said, if you want to go to the beach.
177 00:13:54.730 ⇒ 00:14:00.909 Uttam Kumaran: So, I told her we wanted to plan to go there and come say hi, you know, sometime this week.
178 00:14:00.910 ⇒ 00:14:07.779 Holly Condos: Absolutely, absolutely, and depending on when you come, you can probably stay with us.
179 00:14:08.020 ⇒ 00:14:11.930 Holly Condos: It just, you know, depends on who’s around, if…
180 00:14:12.450 ⇒ 00:14:16.660 Holly Condos: If we’re there, or, you know, if we’re not there, you can just stay in the house.
181 00:14:17.110 ⇒ 00:14:18.790 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, that… you don’t have to offer that.
182 00:14:18.790 ⇒ 00:14:19.350 Holly Condos: We are there.
183 00:14:19.350 ⇒ 00:14:20.259 Uttam Kumaran: Really, really nice.
184 00:14:20.260 ⇒ 00:14:21.140 Holly Condos: You can still see…
185 00:14:21.140 ⇒ 00:14:25.749 Uttam Kumaran: It’s a party. I said, if you guys are there, then it’s a party, yeah.
186 00:14:25.750 ⇒ 00:14:31.849 Holly Condos: Well, it’s actually a really fun house. We’ve had so many parties there. I think I showed you one day on…
187 00:14:32.050 ⇒ 00:14:36.960 Holly Condos: on… with the camera, right? Like, it’s got the jacuzzi, the pool.
188 00:14:37.300 ⇒ 00:14:45.460 Holly Condos: It’s, it’s a big, big house. The upstairs is, like, a thousand square foot, just the whole bedroom suite.
189 00:14:47.340 ⇒ 00:14:48.350 Holly Condos: Yeah, you…
190 00:14:48.350 ⇒ 00:14:53.669 Uttam Kumaran: Wow, amazing. Yeah, I’ll tell her that, she’ll be very, very happy to hear that.
191 00:14:53.670 ⇒ 00:14:54.050 Holly Condos: I couldn’t.
192 00:14:54.050 ⇒ 00:14:54.740 Uttam Kumaran: We, I think…
193 00:14:54.740 ⇒ 00:14:56.100 Holly Condos: Give me some picks, too.
194 00:14:56.620 ⇒ 00:15:10.429 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, amazing, please. We’ve… she didn’t travel a lot until she met me, mostly stayed here in Texas, and then she met me right before, like, a bunch of my friends got married, and so we basically went to, like.
195 00:15:10.990 ⇒ 00:15:14.690 Uttam Kumaran: 9 new states, and, like, all over…
196 00:15:15.090 ⇒ 00:15:21.280 Uttam Kumaran: the U.S, we… yeah, I mean, she hasn’t been… she hadn’t been to the East Coast, she hadn’t been to California in a long time.
197 00:15:21.280 ⇒ 00:15:22.040 Holly Condos: Texas?
198 00:15:22.570 ⇒ 00:15:24.440 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, she was born in Austin.
199 00:15:24.930 ⇒ 00:15:27.959 Holly Condos: Oh my gosh, and had not gone to other states.
200 00:15:28.430 ⇒ 00:15:33.619 Holly Condos: Well, just not… like, she had some family in Maryland, so she went to Maryland once, like…
201 00:15:33.650 ⇒ 00:15:37.640 Uttam Kumaran: She, like, took on family trips maybe, like, once or twice, but, like.
202 00:15:37.880 ⇒ 00:15:38.370 Holly Condos: Yeah.
203 00:15:38.370 ⇒ 00:15:51.600 Uttam Kumaran: And, like, that summer, we went to New York, PA, Philly, Boston, San Francisco, we went to Argentina, because I just have all these friends, so…
204 00:15:51.600 ⇒ 00:15:52.680 Holly Condos: Yeah.
205 00:15:53.000 ⇒ 00:15:58.840 Uttam Kumaran: it’s… it was just really funny, but yeah, so we haven’t been… we haven’t done a beach trip yet, so I do want to take her…
206 00:15:59.240 ⇒ 00:15:59.590 Holly Condos: Okay.
207 00:16:00.130 ⇒ 00:16:05.020 Holly Condos: You’re absolutely welcome, just let me know, you know, time… Okay.
208 00:16:06.280 ⇒ 00:16:06.870 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
209 00:16:07.230 ⇒ 00:16:07.580 Holly Condos: Yeah.
210 00:16:07.580 ⇒ 00:16:09.499 Uttam Kumaran: Have you been cooking anything recently?
211 00:16:10.700 ⇒ 00:16:21.999 Holly Condos: Well, so, because everyone was sick, I made, like, a really robust garlic onion chicken noodle soup.
212 00:16:22.620 ⇒ 00:16:24.370 Holly Condos: So, I just, like…
213 00:16:24.680 ⇒ 00:16:32.259 Holly Condos: you know, let the garlic and onions just kind of saute for a while, and then I put broth on them and let them sit.
214 00:16:32.410 ⇒ 00:16:35.479 Holly Condos: And then I added the rest of the stuff, and that was really good.
215 00:16:36.020 ⇒ 00:16:36.820 Holly Condos: Okay.
216 00:16:36.820 ⇒ 00:16:37.790 Uttam Kumaran: Great, wow.
217 00:16:38.280 ⇒ 00:16:44.839 Holly Condos: I… I made cinnamon rolls at Christmas because my doctor son loves them.
218 00:16:45.120 ⇒ 00:16:45.780 Holly Condos: And…
219 00:16:45.780 ⇒ 00:16:46.800 Uttam Kumaran: Nice.
220 00:16:46.800 ⇒ 00:16:51.399 Holly Condos: gluten-free, so it’s kind of a challenge. I don’t know if you’ve tried to bake.
221 00:16:52.080 ⇒ 00:17:02.419 Holly Condos: for gluten-free people, but it’s… it usually is not great. I mean, the flours have gotten better, but I made the cinnamon rolls just regular flour.
222 00:17:02.570 ⇒ 00:17:11.210 Holly Condos: And I made two, like, round tins, and one of them was devoured in, like, I don’t know, 2 hours?
223 00:17:11.400 ⇒ 00:17:17.189 Holly Condos: And the other one I put in the freezer for the next time that my son… because I don’t really eat sweets and…
224 00:17:17.380 ⇒ 00:17:19.719 Holly Condos: Obviously, my husband can’t have it, so…
225 00:17:20.960 ⇒ 00:17:24.190 Holly Condos: But yeah, I made a lot of stuff over Christmas.
226 00:17:24.510 ⇒ 00:17:31.040 Holly Condos: I made baklava… I usually try to make some of the Greek stuff. I’m part Greek.
227 00:17:32.490 ⇒ 00:17:36.990 Uttam Kumaran: Oh my god, my most favorite dessert is baklava, so there’s a…
228 00:17:36.990 ⇒ 00:17:37.580 Holly Condos: There’s…
229 00:17:37.580 ⇒ 00:17:48.410 Uttam Kumaran: There’s a Turkish restaurant I go to really often, and then there’s also this place called Bakava House. It’s like a… I think they’re Palestinian, but they only serve baklava, so I always go pick her up, like.
230 00:17:48.660 ⇒ 00:17:49.100 Holly Condos: Yeah.
231 00:17:49.100 ⇒ 00:17:51.260 Uttam Kumaran: Way too much.
232 00:17:51.470 ⇒ 00:17:52.480 Holly Condos: It’s such…
233 00:17:52.480 ⇒ 00:17:53.830 Uttam Kumaran: What’s their favorite dessert?
234 00:17:53.830 ⇒ 00:17:57.589 Holly Condos: It’s such a fun dessert, right? It’s just so good.
235 00:17:58.340 ⇒ 00:17:59.370 Holly Condos: Okay, well…
236 00:17:59.370 ⇒ 00:18:01.879 Uttam Kumaran: She bakes, so she’s a baker.
237 00:18:02.170 ⇒ 00:18:02.760 Holly Condos: Okay, yeah.
238 00:18:02.760 ⇒ 00:18:12.430 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, she, she worked, in, like, ice cream and in, kind of, baking for some time growing up, and so she does, like, sourdough, she does desserts.
239 00:18:12.740 ⇒ 00:18:15.929 Uttam Kumaran: I’m more, like, entree appetizer.
240 00:18:15.930 ⇒ 00:18:18.059 Holly Condos: So you’re a good compliment.
241 00:18:18.060 ⇒ 00:18:27.949 Uttam Kumaran: We’re a good… we’re a good pair, also because I can’t do anything that requires, like, too much formal recipe. Especially if you can get good at cooking, I’m much more, like.
242 00:18:28.230 ⇒ 00:18:30.560 Uttam Kumaran: blow state cooking.
243 00:18:30.560 ⇒ 00:18:31.060 Holly Condos: Yeah.
244 00:18:31.060 ⇒ 00:18:37.480 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, like, I can’t… this is, like, my hobby, so I can’t… if it’s, like, if it’s gonna be, like, work, where I’m, like, optimizing.
245 00:18:37.480 ⇒ 00:18:37.880 Holly Condos: Yeah.
246 00:18:37.880 ⇒ 00:18:45.699 Uttam Kumaran: it’s still kind of like work, where I’m, like, trying to get really good at it and get better, but it’s fun. Versus her stuff is very precise.
247 00:18:45.820 ⇒ 00:18:49.380 Uttam Kumaran: But she makes sourdough, she makes, she makes.
248 00:18:49.940 ⇒ 00:18:53.090 Holly Condos: all types of bread, that’s awesome. All the time.
249 00:18:53.380 ⇒ 00:18:54.569 Holly Condos: That’s awesome.
250 00:18:54.750 ⇒ 00:18:57.060 Holly Condos: Maybe she can make it gluten-free.
251 00:18:57.860 ⇒ 00:19:02.670 Uttam Kumaran: I think she can, we’ll bring some. When we come see you, we’ll bring some sourdough, we’ll bring,
252 00:19:03.060 ⇒ 00:19:07.040 Uttam Kumaran: We’ll bring, she made ciabatta the other day, and then, yeah…
253 00:19:07.650 ⇒ 00:19:11.329 Uttam Kumaran: She’s always baking, like, cookies and things like that, so…
254 00:19:11.330 ⇒ 00:19:20.430 Holly Condos: Sweet, sweet. Well, and I’ll either make baklava before you come, or… I mean, it’s kind of a process, so maybe we don’t have time for that, but…
255 00:19:20.430 ⇒ 00:19:26.009 Uttam Kumaran: Or you should let us come in, and we can do the filling or something, we can all cook or something.
256 00:19:26.010 ⇒ 00:19:27.160 Holly Condos: Well, that would be fun.
257 00:19:27.660 ⇒ 00:19:29.100 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
258 00:19:30.170 ⇒ 00:19:33.910 Holly Condos: The kitchen there is, it’s, it’s kind of…
259 00:19:34.260 ⇒ 00:19:42.670 Holly Condos: An octagonal shape, so it’s not great for more than one person, but obviously we make it work.
260 00:19:42.700 ⇒ 00:19:59.649 Holly Condos: But the kitchen in Vermont is a lot better. It’s, just space-wise, right? So, it’s a really long counter, and then the wolf oven and the cabinets are, like, parallel, so you can have a lot of, like, flow, which is great.
261 00:19:59.890 ⇒ 00:20:07.680 Holly Condos: But yeah, my husband’s not really a… he grills and smokes. He doesn’t really cook, so I’m usually…
262 00:20:07.680 ⇒ 00:20:08.450 Uttam Kumaran: Heck.
263 00:20:08.450 ⇒ 00:20:15.490 Holly Condos: You know, it works… it works with 2 or 3 people in the California kitchen. It works.
264 00:20:15.980 ⇒ 00:20:20.250 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that’s very California cooking. I feel like I grill, but…
265 00:20:20.440 ⇒ 00:20:31.710 Uttam Kumaran: grilling is just, like, one thing, like, I don’t know, it’s not… it’s not like, like, if I would like to cook everything over the grill then, but then I’m like, okay, I’m just outside cooking now.
266 00:20:32.220 ⇒ 00:20:38.429 Holly Condos: Do you, do you… did you learn, like, some Indian recipes from your family?
267 00:20:38.730 ⇒ 00:20:46.320 Uttam Kumaran: I’m… I would like to. I started, and my mom cooks, like, great, great Indian food.
268 00:20:46.320 ⇒ 00:20:51.090 Holly Condos: I would love to do more Indian. I dabble, but…
269 00:20:51.090 ⇒ 00:20:55.600 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and this is… it’s just… it’s actually just very… it’s just complicated.
270 00:20:55.600 ⇒ 00:20:56.860 Holly Condos: Yeah, yeah, it is.
271 00:20:56.860 ⇒ 00:20:59.330 Uttam Kumaran: It’s like, I think a lot of food, you know.
272 00:20:59.490 ⇒ 00:21:05.940 Uttam Kumaran: is complicated. This is actually really a lot of, like… it’s just a lot of… Okay, roast.
273 00:21:06.250 ⇒ 00:21:12.959 Uttam Kumaran: And it’s all spice-based, like, so you kind of, like, have to toast spices, and then…
274 00:21:13.110 ⇒ 00:21:15.200 Uttam Kumaran: Toast some other stuff, and then…
275 00:21:15.570 ⇒ 00:21:23.580 Uttam Kumaran: blend that all together, and then re-cook that, and then put that in the pressure cooker with a marinade. It’s, like, actually…
276 00:21:23.680 ⇒ 00:21:35.979 Uttam Kumaran: It’s a lot of steps, and it’s a lot of, spices that you may not use so often in other cooking, like mustard seeds, cardamom, it’s a lot of bay leaf, cinnamon, saffron.
277 00:21:36.450 ⇒ 00:21:38.620 Uttam Kumaran: Curry Potter, Human…
278 00:21:38.670 ⇒ 00:21:44.219 Holly Condos: And it’s, like, some whole seeds, sometimes powder. There’s also some Indian spices that, like.
279 00:21:44.220 ⇒ 00:21:51.810 Uttam Kumaran: you don’t… I don’t even know what, really, what… if there’s an English version of some of these, it’s just, like, in an unmarked box, and so…
280 00:21:51.810 ⇒ 00:21:54.289 Holly Condos: No, I think you’re right. I think you’re right.
281 00:21:54.650 ⇒ 00:22:12.980 Uttam Kumaran: I’m, like, figuring that out, but yeah, one thing I want to have my mom come more often this year to the house, and, like, kind of us to cook. For me, it’s like, I wanted to get good at just cooking in general before undertaking that, because I’m sort of an obsessive, like, I kind of pick a theme, and I just, like, will keep cooking
282 00:22:13.070 ⇒ 00:22:17.289 Uttam Kumaran: fat, like, so I, like, 2 years ago, I…
283 00:22:17.640 ⇒ 00:22:24.030 Uttam Kumaran: I really got into, like, okay, I want to just learn how to do all types of steaks, all the various, like, just learn how to, like.
284 00:22:24.290 ⇒ 00:22:28.689 Uttam Kumaran: cook a decent steak. I then… we then got a lot of pasta sauces.
285 00:22:28.740 ⇒ 00:22:30.510 Holly Condos: So I learned how to do, like.
286 00:22:30.650 ⇒ 00:22:33.919 Uttam Kumaran: Kind of the basics of, like, building a sauce-up.
287 00:22:34.030 ⇒ 00:22:37.209 Holly Condos: Yeah. And then we did some pasta last year.
288 00:22:37.460 ⇒ 00:22:42.130 Uttam Kumaran: I started doing some Asian, but also, Asian’s also kind of hard.
289 00:22:42.130 ⇒ 00:22:42.580 Holly Condos: really hard.
290 00:22:42.580 ⇒ 00:22:43.720 Uttam Kumaran: I, like, do a lot…
291 00:22:43.890 ⇒ 00:22:53.060 Uttam Kumaran: So, I was doing sort of, like, I learned how to… well, one thing I really want to learn is just how to make tofu really well, because I grew up just eating, like, baked tofu, not so great, and…
292 00:22:53.280 ⇒ 00:23:04.970 Uttam Kumaran: So I learned how to do really do, like, good tofu marinades that you can sort of put into, like, this little cornstarch slurry, and then, like, basically bake or fry, and it comes out, like, sort of like in a restaurant where you get, like, fried tofu.
293 00:23:04.970 ⇒ 00:23:05.390 Holly Condos: Yeah.
294 00:23:06.270 ⇒ 00:23:06.679 Holly Condos: Oh, that’.
295 00:23:06.680 ⇒ 00:23:07.170 Uttam Kumaran: And then…
296 00:23:07.170 ⇒ 00:23:09.240 Holly Condos: I love tofu, if it’s good.
297 00:23:09.240 ⇒ 00:23:19.930 Uttam Kumaran: And then here, yeah, here was a lot of Mexican places, so then I… then I started getting interested, okay, I’m gonna do… like, I pressure cooked basically a whole pork shoulder, like, 3 weeks ago.
298 00:23:19.930 ⇒ 00:23:21.020 Holly Condos: Yeah, nice.
299 00:23:21.180 ⇒ 00:23:26.320 Uttam Kumaran: With, like, the achiote paste, which is, like, some type of spice blend paste.
300 00:23:26.450 ⇒ 00:23:26.920 Holly Condos: Yeah.
301 00:23:26.920 ⇒ 00:23:32.069 Uttam Kumaran: And it was amazing. It came… it’s like… it was, like, insane, and it was not that hard to do.
302 00:23:32.400 ⇒ 00:23:34.510 Holly Condos: Did you do it for your Christmas party?
303 00:23:35.050 ⇒ 00:23:37.070 Uttam Kumaran: No, I think it was before that, actually.
304 00:23:37.070 ⇒ 00:23:37.530 Holly Condos: Oh, okay.
305 00:23:38.120 ⇒ 00:23:48.679 Uttam Kumaran: this is just, like, I was like, hey, I watched, like, 10 videos on Haciote paste. Oh, I love it. Let me stop by the Mexican Super Mercado and pick up some stuff, and…
306 00:23:49.130 ⇒ 00:23:57.969 Uttam Kumaran: So then, yeah, so I kind of, like, I feel like I want to get much better at… kind of nail just a taco, like, an everyday taco, always have, like.
307 00:23:58.330 ⇒ 00:24:01.259 Uttam Kumaran: Pressure-cooked chicken, or pork, or whatever.
308 00:24:01.260 ⇒ 00:24:01.940 Holly Condos: Right, right.
309 00:24:01.940 ⇒ 00:24:03.919 Uttam Kumaran: And then, Indian food, yeah.
310 00:24:03.920 ⇒ 00:24:05.300 Holly Condos: tortillas, too.
311 00:24:05.630 ⇒ 00:24:11.979 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so that’s also, like, I want to start being… I just want to stop buying flour tortillas in general, so…
312 00:24:12.290 ⇒ 00:24:16.389 Holly Condos: It’s not that hard to do, I just… It’s not hard, no, it’s not hard.
313 00:24:16.390 ⇒ 00:24:18.199 Uttam Kumaran: I do need to get one of the presses.
314 00:24:18.310 ⇒ 00:24:19.180 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
315 00:24:19.800 ⇒ 00:24:21.250 Uttam Kumaran: I need to get the press.
316 00:24:21.810 ⇒ 00:24:27.999 Holly Condos: You sound like my doctor son. He has been on a similar journey, right? So he did…
317 00:24:28.450 ⇒ 00:24:33.260 Holly Condos: He was doing… so my husband’s half Egyptian and half Dutch.
318 00:24:34.320 ⇒ 00:24:34.750 Uttam Kumaran: Wow.
319 00:24:34.750 ⇒ 00:24:35.529 Holly Condos: So, yeah.
320 00:24:35.530 ⇒ 00:24:36.770 Uttam Kumaran: Have you guys been to Egypt?
321 00:24:38.070 ⇒ 00:24:57.489 Holly Condos: He has, I have not. We lived in London for 3 years, and we were gonna go then, but I was kind of concerned about, it was from 98 to 2001, so it was right before 9-11, and I was kind of concerned about potential terrorist activity.
322 00:24:57.490 ⇒ 00:24:58.280 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah.
323 00:24:58.280 ⇒ 00:25:06.649 Holly Condos: Probably wrongfully so, because… okay, sorry, this is an aside, but… so my… my husband’s grandfather
324 00:25:07.080 ⇒ 00:25:12.290 Holly Condos: Was a member of the Egyptian Parliament during the time of the Shah in Iran.
325 00:25:12.540 ⇒ 00:25:17.540 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. And, I read up a great book, by the way, on that whole…
326 00:25:17.540 ⇒ 00:25:18.949 Holly Condos: Do you? All of the…
327 00:25:18.950 ⇒ 00:25:21.670 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, Shaw, yeah, it’s a great book. I was just talking
328 00:25:22.190 ⇒ 00:25:24.509 Uttam Kumaran: I was just talking to a friend about the Venezuela.
329 00:25:24.750 ⇒ 00:25:33.670 Uttam Kumaran: situation, and it’s… this just rhymes with a lot of, like, what we do. And so, if you just read history, it’s, like, not very surprising,
330 00:25:33.670 ⇒ 00:25:35.960 Holly Condos: Yeah, no, I… I hear you, I hear you.
331 00:25:35.960 ⇒ 00:25:39.839 Uttam Kumaran: But, I don’t know, it’s okay, yeah, but that’s something. I’ll send you the book, it’s really good.
332 00:25:39.840 ⇒ 00:25:43.030 Holly Condos: Okay, that’d be great. But yeah, so,
333 00:25:43.130 ⇒ 00:25:45.369 Holly Condos: Why did I tell you this?
334 00:25:45.920 ⇒ 00:26:02.490 Holly Condos: Oh, yeah, so my… my… because we gotta go. So my doctor’s son was like, hey, I want to, like, explore making some Egyptian dishes. And so we got the Egyptian cookbook, you know, I got a few things from our family.
335 00:26:03.720 ⇒ 00:26:06.500 Uttam Kumaran: the little leaf wraps, I’m trying to think…
336 00:26:06.500 ⇒ 00:26:06.940 Holly Condos: Yeah.
337 00:26:06.940 ⇒ 00:26:08.550 Uttam Kumaran: We ate so much food in Egypt.
338 00:26:08.550 ⇒ 00:26:10.249 Holly Condos: Yeah, and those little… it’s like.
339 00:26:10.250 ⇒ 00:26:11.730 Uttam Kumaran: Pomegranate seeds…
340 00:26:11.730 ⇒ 00:26:15.870 Holly Condos: Yeah, yeah. And there’s something called kosherie, which is, like.
341 00:26:15.870 ⇒ 00:26:17.100 Uttam Kumaran: Ocharay, yes.
342 00:26:17.100 ⇒ 00:26:22.480 Holly Condos: right, so he made that, and he made, like, the little pitas, the Egyptian version of the pitas.
343 00:26:22.840 ⇒ 00:26:23.640 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
344 00:26:23.640 ⇒ 00:26:27.010 Holly Condos: Right? Like, he’s very much like you in that sense.
345 00:26:27.300 ⇒ 00:26:37.760 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I just, like, have to learn, but I just get, like… I will watch, like, 100 YouTube videos, try, like, everything. I’ll be like, cool, we’re gonna go to, like, 4 Egyptian places this weekend.
346 00:26:37.760 ⇒ 00:26:38.200 Holly Condos: in the truck.
347 00:26:38.200 ⇒ 00:26:40.540 Uttam Kumaran: all the food. That’s great.
348 00:26:40.540 ⇒ 00:26:48.349 Holly Condos: That’s great. Well, when you guys come, when you come to San Diego, we’ll have to go… there’s a couple Michelin stars now.
349 00:26:48.740 ⇒ 00:26:53.550 Holly Condos: But there’s a whole variety of different foods, so, you know, we can just pick.
350 00:26:53.550 ⇒ 00:26:59.219 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, we eat everything. I would say we’re only allergic to bad food, so…
351 00:26:59.220 ⇒ 00:27:01.220 Holly Condos: You’re allergic to bad food?
352 00:27:01.730 ⇒ 00:27:06.120 Uttam Kumaran: Allergic to bad food, yes, we’re not allergic to any other food allergies.
353 00:27:06.310 ⇒ 00:27:17.140 Uttam Kumaran: We’re also, like, both of us, I’m drinking, like, a lot of wine, she’s getting into it, but, I mean, that’s what I would also ask, if we go have some wine somewhere.
354 00:27:17.140 ⇒ 00:27:31.689 Holly Condos: Absolutely, there’s… I mean, we’re not far from Temecula, it’s probably, like, you know, 40, 30, 40 minutes, and then there’s a couple other wineries that are closer, like, in the county, in San Diego County, maybe, you know, 20 to 30 minute ride.
355 00:27:31.960 ⇒ 00:27:34.489 Holly Condos: So, yeah, this sounds really fun.
356 00:27:35.170 ⇒ 00:27:37.609 Holly Condos: Perfect, and send me… please send me some pictures,
357 00:27:37.610 ⇒ 00:27:40.519 Uttam Kumaran: You just text me some pictures, I’ll send it to her, and like…
358 00:27:40.810 ⇒ 00:27:43.240 Holly Condos: You can rub her whistle, yes, yes.
359 00:27:43.240 ⇒ 00:27:44.030 Uttam Kumaran: Yes, yes.
360 00:27:44.030 ⇒ 00:27:44.390 Holly Condos: Perfect.
361 00:27:45.240 ⇒ 00:27:46.519 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, thank you, Holly.
362 00:27:46.520 ⇒ 00:27:46.970 Holly Condos: I assume that.
363 00:27:46.970 ⇒ 00:27:47.330 Uttam Kumaran: call.
364 00:27:47.330 ⇒ 00:27:48.879 Holly Condos: I’ll see you on the other side.
365 00:27:49.090 ⇒ 00:27:51.220 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, bye. Take care. See ya.