Meeting Title: AI-App Standup Date: 2026-01-05 Meeting participants: Pranav, Uttam Kumaran, Samuel Roberts, Casie Aviles, Mustafa Raja, Surf, Gabriel Lam
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1 00:00:14.260 ⇒ 00:00:15.060 Samuel Roberts: Hello.
2 00:00:15.560 ⇒ 00:00:16.420 Uttam Kumaran: Hello.
3 00:00:16.420 ⇒ 00:00:17.590 Pranav: Hello, hello.
4 00:00:18.770 ⇒ 00:00:19.950 Uttam Kumaran: Are you in Austin?
5 00:00:20.330 ⇒ 00:00:21.129 Pranav: I am.
6 00:00:21.550 ⇒ 00:00:24.690 Uttam Kumaran: Nice, dude, yo, we should, we should work this sometime this week.
7 00:00:24.940 ⇒ 00:00:26.649 Pranav: Yeah, let’s definitely do it, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, nice!
8 00:00:26.650 ⇒ 00:00:27.120 Samuel Roberts: Yes.
9 00:00:28.150 ⇒ 00:00:30.920 Pranav: Yeah, I drove down from Massachusetts, I didn’t…
10 00:00:31.180 ⇒ 00:00:33.159 Pranav: I didn’t know I was gonna make it, honestly.
11 00:00:33.620 ⇒ 00:00:35.439 Samuel Roberts: That’s… that’s a long drive.
12 00:00:35.440 ⇒ 00:00:36.639 Pranav: I know, yeah, yeah.
13 00:00:36.640 ⇒ 00:00:38.540 Samuel Roberts: How long did you do it, like…
14 00:00:39.110 ⇒ 00:00:44.030 Pranav: So I didn’t even do it, like, straight, it was, like, a roundabout way, because I went to Chicago first.
15 00:00:44.250 ⇒ 00:00:45.150 Samuel Roberts: Oh, okay.
16 00:00:45.150 ⇒ 00:00:49.510 Pranav: Yeah, so, total driving, it said 40 hours.
17 00:00:49.510 ⇒ 00:00:50.240 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
18 00:00:50.240 ⇒ 00:00:50.750 Pranav: Yeah.
19 00:00:50.750 ⇒ 00:00:51.370 Uttam Kumaran: Wow.
20 00:00:51.370 ⇒ 00:00:52.240 Pranav: Yeah.
21 00:00:52.550 ⇒ 00:00:53.310 Samuel Roberts: you?
22 00:00:53.770 ⇒ 00:00:56.770 Pranav: Just me, too, yeah, I didn’t have anybody else in the car, yeah.
23 00:00:56.770 ⇒ 00:01:04.119 Samuel Roberts: Honestly, a solo road trip can be… can be fun sometimes, but it can also be just, like, when it’s over, you’re like, oh my god, how did I do that?
24 00:01:04.120 ⇒ 00:01:11.000 Pranav: 100%, yeah, yeah, yeah. I woke up today, I was like, okay, how many hours do I need to drive? And, like, it feels weird just, like, sitting in an open space.
25 00:01:11.060 ⇒ 00:01:12.300 Samuel Roberts: Right, right.
26 00:01:12.300 ⇒ 00:01:12.970 Pranav: Yeah.
27 00:01:13.840 ⇒ 00:01:17.370 Samuel Roberts: Sweet. Alright, well, Happy New Year, everyone!
28 00:01:17.540 ⇒ 00:01:18.540 Pranav: Yeah, Happy New Year.
29 00:01:21.130 ⇒ 00:01:22.160 Mustafa Raja: Happening, yeah.
30 00:01:23.360 ⇒ 00:01:25.840 Samuel Roberts: Is Gabe around today? I wasn’t sure.
31 00:01:26.370 ⇒ 00:01:33.620 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t think so. Gabe, we’re sort of in limbo on him joining us full-time. He has some visa stuff we’re.
32 00:01:33.620 ⇒ 00:01:33.980 Samuel Roberts: Oh my god.
33 00:01:33.980 ⇒ 00:01:34.720 Uttam Kumaran: Oops.
34 00:01:34.720 ⇒ 00:01:36.939 Samuel Roberts: Got it. So, I think for now…
35 00:01:37.300 ⇒ 00:01:40.379 Uttam Kumaran: I honestly may just, like, we may just put pause on, like.
36 00:01:40.600 ⇒ 00:01:44.010 Uttam Kumaran: Or we may just kind of keep the platform stuff alive.
37 00:01:44.130 ⇒ 00:01:48.439 Uttam Kumaran: Until he kind of gets back. I’d much rather us nail this new model on clients.
38 00:01:48.440 ⇒ 00:01:50.030 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, let’s… totally, okay.
39 00:01:51.070 ⇒ 00:02:01.070 Uttam Kumaran: I think one thing that I’ll maybe just push before I hand it to you, Sam, is also, I think Casey and Mustafa, I think it would be good for you guys to think about where else you can…
40 00:02:01.260 ⇒ 00:02:02.790 Uttam Kumaran: act as EPs.
41 00:02:02.990 ⇒ 00:02:08.049 Uttam Kumaran: I think, Mustafa, I just have you as the EP for default.
42 00:02:08.289 ⇒ 00:02:20.490 Uttam Kumaran: But I know, Casey, I have you, as a potential EP on ABC, on a few other clients, so that’s where I’m gonna kind of, like, urge you guys to think, but we can also talk about this in the next meeting.
43 00:02:20.720 ⇒ 00:02:25.719 Uttam Kumaran: But yeah, for now, we can… we can walk through, you know, stuff, Sam.
44 00:02:26.230 ⇒ 00:02:26.770 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
45 00:02:27.000 ⇒ 00:02:32.859 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I mean, I guess a big, big walkthrough for, like, updating for the last few weeks.
46 00:02:33.050 ⇒ 00:02:38.019 Samuel Roberts: But I know there was stuff happening, I was catching up on Slack this morning a bit.
47 00:02:38.180 ⇒ 00:02:40.800 Samuel Roberts: Can we start with, ABC, I guess?
48 00:02:42.670 ⇒ 00:02:55.340 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so maybe I can talk about it from, my side on Andy. So, I’ll be kind of taking over CSO on ABC Andy, and then we also have an ABC Strategy,
49 00:02:55.620 ⇒ 00:03:07.899 Uttam Kumaran: service line we’re working on, so I’ll go represent that in the other call. But for Andy, I called, Yvette, before the end of the year, and we sort of agreed on a…
50 00:03:08.230 ⇒ 00:03:11.830 Uttam Kumaran: On a new sort of meeting structure, so I’ll be working with.
51 00:03:11.830 ⇒ 00:03:12.320 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
52 00:03:12.320 ⇒ 00:03:22.570 Uttam Kumaran: Amber, who’s the EP, on sort of implementing that. We’ll be… we’ll end up, I think, meeting with them similarly on Thursdays, but I may add another sort of data meeting.
53 00:03:23.010 ⇒ 00:03:27.430 Uttam Kumaran: And then, also, I think, depending on,
54 00:03:28.040 ⇒ 00:03:35.129 Uttam Kumaran: the amount of work, I may also start to loop in, Pranav for some time to kind of check this client out and have some purview in.
55 00:03:35.240 ⇒ 00:03:42.670 Uttam Kumaran: But I’ll work with Amber to kind of get, what this week’s tasks are, Mustafa and Casey, although if…
56 00:03:42.860 ⇒ 00:03:54.249 Uttam Kumaran: If you do know if… if you also know that there’s anything urgent, you can let me know now so I can note it down, and then I’ll probably come back to… I’ll probably have more to offer on ABC Andy tomorrow.
57 00:03:57.640 ⇒ 00:04:04.079 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, Casey Mustafa, I guess the, like, where… where are we at right now with, like, I saw some of the…
58 00:04:04.520 ⇒ 00:04:09.090 Samuel Roberts: Mustafa, I saw your message, obviously, around, you know, New Year’s, but.
59 00:04:09.340 ⇒ 00:04:24.000 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah. So, the main thing here is with, the migration for, Andy, right? So, we kind of decided to, break the system prompt into 3 different agents, right?
60 00:04:24.280 ⇒ 00:04:43.939 Mustafa Raja: But it turns out the general instructions agent, the instructions in the prompt really are pieces of central doc, and, that should really be responsibility of, vector query agent. The problem with that is, the CSRs would want exact same response.
61 00:04:44.090 ⇒ 00:05:01.790 Mustafa Raja: In the central doc, but the response is going to be a little too large for all the chunks to be returned, in this little pattern. So that is the issue we were seeing. I have the Loom and the Notion doc, linked in the channel.
62 00:05:01.850 ⇒ 00:05:04.849 Mustafa Raja: And I would want the team to review that and…
63 00:05:05.000 ⇒ 00:05:14.979 Mustafa Raja: So we… we can come to, a good resolution. And then, as far as the evals are concerned, evals are looking pretty good.
64 00:05:15.100 ⇒ 00:05:25.859 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, the annotant clone and the multi-agent, thing are pretty, pretty close to each other.
65 00:05:26.050 ⇒ 00:05:35.660 Mustafa Raja: Okay. Yeah, it really, it really, depends on the general instructions agent thing, how we resolve that.
66 00:05:35.980 ⇒ 00:05:42.919 Mustafa Raja: If we are able to resolve that, a multi-agent one is… is a pretty, pretty good architecture to pursue.
67 00:05:46.300 ⇒ 00:05:57.849 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, we can… I’ll… I’ll watch the loom, get a little caught up there, and then we can have some conversations about the prompt, and probably even the way we’re doing the rag for the central doc, maybe?
68 00:05:57.850 ⇒ 00:05:58.740 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
69 00:05:59.720 ⇒ 00:06:03.940 Samuel Roberts: I know we talked a little bit about the, like, hierarchy of metadata and stuff, but…
70 00:06:03.990 ⇒ 00:06:20.919 Mustafa Raja: Yes, we had a meeting with… we had a meeting with Patricia, before the, new year, and we saw that the way the Central Doc is structured, is also affecting the way Andy answers, because
71 00:06:20.940 ⇒ 00:06:29.120 Mustafa Raja: They had, they had lawn… I believe lawn cleaning stuff under lawn mowing headings.
72 00:06:29.620 ⇒ 00:06:36.650 Mustafa Raja: when lawn mowing has its own whole section, so… so that is why Andy was confusing stuff.
73 00:06:36.940 ⇒ 00:06:45.540 Mustafa Raja: We have the… I believe we have that recorded, so we could, we could go through that again. It’s just an example of…
74 00:06:45.700 ⇒ 00:06:52.039 Mustafa Raja: How… How the central docs need to be cleanly represented.
75 00:06:52.310 ⇒ 00:06:56.640 Mustafa Raja: For RAG to be, to be able to function properly.
76 00:06:57.230 ⇒ 00:07:04.820 Samuel Roberts: Okay, yeah, so it’s probably a combination of maybe tweaking the rag and restructuring the central dock in a way that makes sense for, like, human and machine in a good way.
77 00:07:04.820 ⇒ 00:07:05.660 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
78 00:07:07.170 ⇒ 00:07:15.509 Samuel Roberts: Okay, okay, cool. Other things there, ABC-wise? Yep.
79 00:07:15.940 ⇒ 00:07:26.009 Casie Aviles: I’m just going to add, the work that also I’ve added… I’ve done for, like, the forms, so… now, I use the… Oh, right, right.
80 00:07:26.210 ⇒ 00:07:33.630 Casie Aviles: the admin panel, which is, you know, that’s a library you suggested, which is, I think it works.
81 00:07:33.770 ⇒ 00:07:35.309 Samuel Roberts: It was good. Find some app.
82 00:07:35.530 ⇒ 00:07:41.229 Casie Aviles: I have, poll requests for that, so, yeah, I would, I would just, like.
83 00:07:41.560 ⇒ 00:07:44.349 Casie Aviles: For the team to take a look at that as well.
84 00:07:44.520 ⇒ 00:07:45.070 Samuel Roberts: Great.
85 00:07:45.520 ⇒ 00:07:52.330 Casie Aviles: But yeah, I also did some QA before that, so I made some fixes to, like, the filters that were not working.
86 00:07:52.560 ⇒ 00:07:54.810 Casie Aviles: As intended, and, like, the views…
87 00:07:55.000 ⇒ 00:07:58.410 Casie Aviles: But it should be there, it should be showing, like.
88 00:07:58.990 ⇒ 00:08:03.019 Casie Aviles: the data that we have from Superbase, and we should be able to do, like.
89 00:08:03.370 ⇒ 00:08:06.940 Casie Aviles: Updates, you know, deletions from that view.
90 00:08:06.940 ⇒ 00:08:07.500 Samuel Roberts: Great.
91 00:08:08.350 ⇒ 00:08:11.609 Samuel Roberts: Great. Okay, yeah, I will, I will take a look at that PR.
92 00:08:12.220 ⇒ 00:08:17.899 Casie Aviles: Although, right now, that’s not… I think that won’t be on Heroku, it’s just going to be local.
93 00:08:19.520 ⇒ 00:08:20.890 Samuel Roberts: Just running it locally for now.
94 00:08:21.360 ⇒ 00:08:23.429 Samuel Roberts: For testing? Okay, that’s fine.
95 00:08:25.060 ⇒ 00:08:29.720 Samuel Roberts: Okay. Well, yeah, we’ll get that in a good spot before we get it up on Heroki then.
96 00:08:30.870 ⇒ 00:08:32.270 Samuel Roberts: Okay, great.
97 00:08:32.490 ⇒ 00:08:38.919 Samuel Roberts: Does that cover… ABC Updates, for now…
98 00:08:39.360 ⇒ 00:08:42.330 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think that’s everything on my side.
99 00:08:48.760 ⇒ 00:08:49.660 Samuel Roberts: Lilo?
100 00:08:51.420 ⇒ 00:09:00.049 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so on my side, the biggest thing that I would like to get some updates on, I send a message to try to get a meeting with them.
101 00:09:00.080 ⇒ 00:09:11.549 Uttam Kumaran: I feel like last, like, these guys, the biggest thing to understand is they’re just gonna be much more output-focused, and I’m gonna try to go get us some budget for that. So I think…
102 00:09:11.640 ⇒ 00:09:17.540 Uttam Kumaran: we just kind of continue, what we’re doing today. I want to go get… I want to go talk to them about…
103 00:09:17.650 ⇒ 00:09:22.940 Uttam Kumaran: Both the due diligence ask that they had, as well as expanding,
104 00:09:23.240 ⇒ 00:09:26.120 Uttam Kumaran: You know, potentially expanding our,
105 00:09:26.440 ⇒ 00:09:29.000 Uttam Kumaran: the speed at which we move to Phase 2.
106 00:09:29.130 ⇒ 00:09:35.740 Uttam Kumaran: Ideally, I think, Sam, what this may be is just Pranav coming and basically just doing… being full-time.
107 00:09:35.970 ⇒ 00:09:36.990 Uttam Kumaran: Lilo?
108 00:09:37.130 ⇒ 00:09:42.099 Uttam Kumaran: And then potentially looping in, Casey on this project.
109 00:09:43.730 ⇒ 00:09:55.740 Uttam Kumaran: And then kind of, like, running like that. So, basically, we have Phase 1, the due diligence, and how fast can we move into Phase 2 is, like, the three kind of clear focuses. We also have this… they asked us about,
110 00:09:55.890 ⇒ 00:09:59.350 Uttam Kumaran: Looping in the nanobanana thing into their app.
111 00:09:59.600 ⇒ 00:10:02.110 Uttam Kumaran: I honestly feel like Pranav is probably, like, a day’s work.
112 00:10:02.180 ⇒ 00:10:09.060 Uttam Kumaran: Or it’s probably a half-day work. I’m just gonna… I’m just gonna estimate that. So that’s what I’m gonna tell them, is, like, it’s probably just a half day.
113 00:10:09.090 ⇒ 00:10:23.750 Uttam Kumaran: And so I’m gonna ask them, like, what the order of operations… I use… I created that… that due diligence request. I’m kind of also gonna turn this into, like, a classic DD scope, which is, like, anybody that calls us is, like.
114 00:10:24.270 ⇒ 00:10:31.149 Uttam Kumaran: I want diligence on something, because, for example, there’s another company that called me that they want diligence on a company they’re buying.
115 00:10:31.280 ⇒ 00:10:41.960 Uttam Kumaran: Leela, when we came in, we probably should have started with, like, a diligence project before moving into this, so I want to use this as, like, our template for how do we do diligence-related
116 00:10:42.190 ⇒ 00:10:45.260 Uttam Kumaran: request, but if I can get your guys’ eyes on
117 00:10:45.520 ⇒ 00:10:49.060 Uttam Kumaran: the level of effort, then I will price that and bring that up today as well.
118 00:10:49.390 ⇒ 00:10:53.500 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I was starting to respond, I think, on Slack before the last meeting, but I didn’t finish.
119 00:10:53.500 ⇒ 00:10:53.970 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
120 00:10:53.970 ⇒ 00:11:00.049 Samuel Roberts: It’s a… yeah, I think what the estimates that are in there seem fine, not knowing exactly the codebase yet.
121 00:11:00.050 ⇒ 00:11:01.219 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Obviously, like.
122 00:11:01.320 ⇒ 00:11:06.730 Samuel Roberts: that’s a question mark. The only other thing I would add is maybe… from the,
123 00:11:07.450 ⇒ 00:11:10.609 Samuel Roberts: the, like, requirements inputs. I’m curious, like.
124 00:11:10.900 ⇒ 00:11:18.879 Samuel Roberts: What they think they’re getting, then we can compare that to, like, what’s actually there, to make sure that things align in terms of an actual diligence for what they…
125 00:11:19.090 ⇒ 00:11:25.630 Samuel Roberts: think they’re getting. But besides that, I think it’s pretty good, but I’ll take another, I’ll send a message with everything, too.
126 00:11:26.040 ⇒ 00:11:26.590 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
127 00:11:27.180 ⇒ 00:11:29.760 Samuel Roberts: Cool.
128 00:11:31.250 ⇒ 00:11:37.430 Pranav: Yeah, I also wanted to talk about, their message, I think, when was it?
129 00:11:37.800 ⇒ 00:11:56.590 Pranav: Last Friday, and so they were just kind of confirming, like, the pace for completing certain things by Friday of this week, and they mentioned, a few things that I put in the scope, that Sam and I talked about, Utam. It’s not everything in that scope, but it’s, most of them, 4 of out of the 5.
130 00:11:57.040 ⇒ 00:12:07.069 Pranav: One of the things I have a question on is, onboarding Zach and Bobby, and they mentioned something specifically about Cloud Code. They said, get us connected in Cloud Code. Do you have our…
131 00:12:07.070 ⇒ 00:12:11.900 Uttam Kumaran: We… we… they want to start using Claude Code to try to build stuff.
132 00:12:12.190 ⇒ 00:12:12.810 Pranav: Okay.
133 00:12:13.030 ⇒ 00:12:17.690 Samuel Roberts: So, we just need to probably run, like, an hour-long training with them. Yeah.
134 00:12:18.110 ⇒ 00:12:22.710 Uttam Kumaran: We should… we should also do one internally, like, I’m… I want to spend some time, probably Wednesday.
135 00:12:23.170 ⇒ 00:12:24.929 Uttam Kumaran: Doing some Cloud Code stuff.
136 00:12:25.520 ⇒ 00:12:25.980 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
137 00:12:25.980 ⇒ 00:12:30.709 Uttam Kumaran: But they basically want to start building stuff on top of the codebase as fast as they can.
138 00:12:32.170 ⇒ 00:12:37.659 Uttam Kumaran: So… I think… I don’t know if you’re using Cloud Code on your end, or Cursor, but…
139 00:12:38.130 ⇒ 00:12:40.660 Uttam Kumaran: Whatever you’re doing, we should just try to think about
140 00:12:40.810 ⇒ 00:12:44.589 Uttam Kumaran: a framework to get them to build in there. That’s all that is, basically.
141 00:12:45.090 ⇒ 00:12:45.460 Pranav: Sounds good.
142 00:12:45.460 ⇒ 00:12:48.000 Surf: I… on Wednesday.
143 00:12:49.170 ⇒ 00:12:50.750 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know yet.
144 00:12:50.890 ⇒ 00:12:57.999 Uttam Kumaran: I think it’s gonna be up to you, Pranav, but I would probably… my ask would be you run, like, an hour-long, just, cloud code training with them, basically.
145 00:12:58.000 ⇒ 00:12:58.670 Pranav: Okay.
146 00:12:58.670 ⇒ 00:12:59.170 Surf: Cool.
147 00:12:59.170 ⇒ 00:12:59.870 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
148 00:13:00.130 ⇒ 00:13:09.330 Samuel Roberts: I think that’s a good idea. I think the only other, like, prep might be… I don’t know what the agent’s MD is looking like, or something. Like, just a few things. I don’t know how… you know, I’m using cursor, but…
149 00:13:09.830 ⇒ 00:13:15.840 Samuel Roberts: I’m not too familiar with Cloud Code Becursor, the differences there, but just whatever instructions we have for…
150 00:13:16.370 ⇒ 00:13:20.160 Samuel Roberts: styling and consistency and all that stuff. It’s probably a…
151 00:13:20.270 ⇒ 00:13:23.599 Samuel Roberts: A good thing to have before we let them just go wild on the repo.
152 00:13:23.990 ⇒ 00:13:31.640 Pranav: Cool, yeah, and the, like, the outcome that they want is just be able to, like, add, like, feature branches, and then we can review them, and then deploy their features, right?
153 00:13:32.180 ⇒ 00:13:32.860 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
154 00:13:33.090 ⇒ 00:13:42.059 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, I think basically they want to be able to prototype stuff. Like, for example, that nano Banana thing would have been great had they just built it on our stuff, and then they’re like.
155 00:13:42.210 ⇒ 00:13:46.999 Uttam Kumaran: Cool, it’s ready, can you move it in? Versus… I basically want them to, like, stop using Replit.
156 00:13:47.000 ⇒ 00:13:52.300 Samuel Roberts: That was… that was the issue, is that Replicant go back, like, into the repo easily, so…
157 00:13:53.610 ⇒ 00:14:03.299 Pranav: Okay, so then we’ll probably also need to help them set up the app locally. Like, they need to be running it locally for them to, like, test and play around with Cloud Code.
158 00:14:04.120 ⇒ 00:14:04.560 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
159 00:14:04.560 ⇒ 00:14:05.170 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
160 00:14:05.170 ⇒ 00:14:08.959 Samuel Roberts: We’ll make sure the README is up-to-date and everything, that’s what I’m talking about with, like, make sure the…
161 00:14:09.170 ⇒ 00:14:13.149 Samuel Roberts: One… yeah, and they probably need a little bit of hand-holding, even with an updated README.
162 00:14:13.150 ⇒ 00:14:13.710 Pranav: Yeah.
163 00:14:14.030 ⇒ 00:14:20.480 Pranav: So that one-hour session can be, like, okay, let’s, like, share a screen, let’s, like, get you up and running, like, so, like, localhost is working.
164 00:14:20.870 ⇒ 00:14:21.450 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
165 00:14:22.530 ⇒ 00:14:31.899 Surf: Well, secondary pieces out there, probably, is they’re probably gonna need some Git training, because I’m pretty sure they haven’t used, like, Git, if they’re gonna actually, like, create feature brands and stuff.
166 00:14:31.900 ⇒ 00:14:32.939 Samuel Roberts: That’s a good point.
167 00:14:32.940 ⇒ 00:14:36.920 Surf: Yeah, so they’re gonna need that, and then, I guess…
168 00:14:38.050 ⇒ 00:14:45.529 Surf: This would be on an us side if we’re thinking about it, like, preview blanche deployment, so they can actually, like, see the thing working.
169 00:14:45.530 ⇒ 00:14:47.780 Samuel Roberts: I was thinking about that a bit with Railway.
170 00:14:47.780 ⇒ 00:14:48.120 Surf: Yeah.
171 00:14:48.120 ⇒ 00:14:52.880 Samuel Roberts: Make sure that we have all that set up for things beyond just dev and prog.
172 00:14:53.040 ⇒ 00:14:57.070 Surf: Yeah, so we would, at minimum, from our perspective.
173 00:14:57.200 ⇒ 00:15:04.579 Surf: lock main branch from them making a push without reviews, because I can definitely see that happening.
174 00:15:04.580 ⇒ 00:15:11.310 Samuel Roberts: Probably lots of staging, too, because that’s what we’re using for, like, the current, like, show them what’s working, so yeah, we probably lock both of those and just let them…
175 00:15:11.680 ⇒ 00:15:12.780 Samuel Roberts: Throw things up.
176 00:15:12.780 ⇒ 00:15:13.700 Surf: Okay.
177 00:15:14.040 ⇒ 00:15:22.450 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, what… well, we can talk about this offline, I’m curious, like, Cloud Code and Git, like, if we put a file so that there’s some structure to, like, how to do commits or something, if…
178 00:15:23.030 ⇒ 00:15:25.499 Samuel Roberts: we can entrust that to Claude Code in them, or…
179 00:15:25.760 ⇒ 00:15:31.339 Samuel Roberts: But we’ll give them a quick, like, this is what a commit is, this is what a PR is, all that stuff. Okay.
180 00:15:32.770 ⇒ 00:15:41.119 Samuel Roberts: Let’s… Anything else, Lilo-wise, for now, obviously we can discuss more after, specifically, but…
181 00:15:41.120 ⇒ 00:15:47.019 Pranav: I think it’s, just, like, on those 4th, like, deliverables for this week.
182 00:15:47.020 ⇒ 00:15:47.550 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
183 00:15:49.420 ⇒ 00:15:56.499 Pranav: just how we kind of want to, like, break those down, I guess? Should I just kind of, like, try to take all of those down? I… I know, like.
184 00:15:57.540 ⇒ 00:15:59.319 Uttam Kumaran: We can help give some priorities.
185 00:15:59.930 ⇒ 00:16:01.600 Pranav: Okay. Yeah.
186 00:16:01.600 ⇒ 00:16:09.399 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I can… I can lend a hand where it’s needed, especially with the MCP stuff, probably, getting… just at least testing those and getting those up on railway might be… Okay.
187 00:16:09.650 ⇒ 00:16:18.440 Samuel Roberts: Just because I did the Klaviyo one, and the database, as we saw, was a little weird, to make sure everything was set up right. But…
188 00:16:19.080 ⇒ 00:16:21.230 Pranav: Yeah, that seems like a good split then, yeah.
189 00:16:21.230 ⇒ 00:16:21.870 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
190 00:16:21.870 ⇒ 00:16:26.870 Pranav: Just kind of wanted to… just put that out there to make sure, like, that was clear, but perfect. Yeah.
191 00:16:26.870 ⇒ 00:16:28.830 Samuel Roberts: No, that’s good, that’s a good thing to figure out.
192 00:16:29.430 ⇒ 00:16:31.680 Uttam Kumaran: And they just asked to meet at 3.30.
193 00:16:34.360 ⇒ 00:16:36.250 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m gonna go ahead and book that time.
194 00:16:36.830 ⇒ 00:16:40.199 Samuel Roberts: Okay, and for that, you want the due diligence stuff?
195 00:16:41.020 ⇒ 00:16:42.150 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
196 00:16:42.250 ⇒ 00:16:43.010 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
197 00:16:45.000 ⇒ 00:16:48.820 Uttam Kumaran: I basically think about it like, hours and, like.
198 00:16:49.260 ⇒ 00:16:51.669 Uttam Kumaran: I basically said we need at least 2 weeks.
199 00:16:51.720 ⇒ 00:16:55.659 Samuel Roberts: Yeah. You can think about the hours between that, because I don’t know about getting access to stuff.
200 00:16:56.350 ⇒ 00:16:57.650 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, of course, of course.
201 00:16:57.650 ⇒ 00:17:03.029 Pranav: Sync again, like, in the same way that we did, like, the scope of this.
202 00:17:03.030 ⇒ 00:17:05.280 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, have you taken a look at the.
203 00:17:05.280 ⇒ 00:17:07.250 Pranav: No, I need to finish taking a look at that.
204 00:17:07.250 ⇒ 00:17:09.589 Samuel Roberts: Alright, take a look at that, and then ping me, and we’ll get together.
205 00:17:09.740 ⇒ 00:17:10.290 Pranav: Perfect.
206 00:17:11.000 ⇒ 00:17:11.640 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
207 00:17:12.329 ⇒ 00:17:14.560 Samuel Roberts: Good there, then.
208 00:17:14.950 ⇒ 00:17:20.480 Samuel Roberts: I guess… Internal?
209 00:17:21.880 ⇒ 00:17:22.660 Samuel Roberts: Okay?
210 00:17:23.730 ⇒ 00:17:29.250 Gabriel Lam: Yeah, I think… sorry, I’m still… I’m a little under the weather, it’s a little catching up.
211 00:17:29.250 ⇒ 00:17:29.870 Samuel Roberts: Oh, no.
212 00:17:29.870 ⇒ 00:17:32.040 Gabriel Lam: Basically, updates have been…
213 00:17:32.320 ⇒ 00:17:37.739 Gabriel Lam: just building on that internal playbook, I don’t know if, Utam, you were able to make updates, because I don’t…
214 00:17:38.310 ⇒ 00:17:39.369 Uttam Kumaran: I was, yeah.
215 00:17:39.370 ⇒ 00:17:40.220 Gabriel Lam: requests, so…
216 00:17:40.840 ⇒ 00:17:45.890 Gabriel Lam: to hear what your feedback was on that so far. Yeah, I’m using it. And also the cloud code thing that I noticed.
217 00:17:46.340 ⇒ 00:17:48.350 Gabriel Lam: That you, you… Made a point.
218 00:17:48.350 ⇒ 00:18:01.250 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so I’m using the playbook, I’m not using the vault yet, I’m adding stuff to the playbook probably every day, and I’m gonna be walking all three groups, CSOs, EMs, and SLs, through cursor workflows later today.
219 00:18:01.560 ⇒ 00:18:07.499 Gabriel Lam: Okay. So a bunch of people should be… Like, in terms of what’s been working, what hasn’t been working.
220 00:18:08.370 ⇒ 00:18:22.690 Uttam Kumaran: No, the only thing I also worked on is I’m work… I worked on a, like, a cursor setup folder, which is, like, if you were to literally open the repo and it’s your first time opening cursor, I want to have, like, settings files in there.
221 00:18:23.280 ⇒ 00:18:26.559 Uttam Kumaran: A little bit more stuff on, like, how the whole process works.
222 00:18:26.630 ⇒ 00:18:31.090 Uttam Kumaran: Think about it from, like, someone’s day zero opening cursor and, like, opening the repo.
223 00:18:31.160 ⇒ 00:18:49.180 Uttam Kumaran: they should be able to, like, apply the right settings, apply using Opus by default, like, all those things. So I… I have a… I have… I have Cursor working on that for me, my laptop, I need to go commit the rest of that. And then the other thing I would suggest,
224 00:18:49.280 ⇒ 00:18:57.489 Uttam Kumaran: is for you to actually op… like, one thing I was gonna do was open up all the repos and basically have Claude go through it and suggest other…
225 00:18:57.710 ⇒ 00:18:59.620 Uttam Kumaran: Like, other things to include there.
226 00:19:00.520 ⇒ 00:19:08.100 Uttam Kumaran: So if you want to work with Claude to, like, basically brainstorm what we could be missing, you can put that into a doc and I can help approve, but…
227 00:19:08.740 ⇒ 00:19:19.879 Uttam Kumaran: Our business is, like, unlike most businesses, so it should have enough context on how do we run… create… what other potential types of documents do we need, what other to-dos do we need, things like that.
228 00:19:20.270 ⇒ 00:19:22.269 Uttam Kumaran: So that would be really helpful.
229 00:19:22.880 ⇒ 00:19:27.769 Gabriel Lam: Yeah, and I can also look into the bringing Notion docs through a cron or something.
230 00:19:27.770 ⇒ 00:19:28.400 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
231 00:19:29.460 ⇒ 00:19:30.300 Gabriel Lam: Yeah.
232 00:19:30.300 ⇒ 00:19:31.720 Samuel Roberts: Yeah. Okay, cool.
233 00:19:34.780 ⇒ 00:19:35.949 Gabriel Lam: That’s it for me, Sam.
234 00:19:36.370 ⇒ 00:19:37.050 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, cool.
235 00:19:39.020 ⇒ 00:19:42.079 Samuel Roberts: Sounds good. And then, I guess, Remo, surf?
236 00:19:49.700 ⇒ 00:19:50.550 Uttam Kumaran: Perfectly on mute.
237 00:19:50.790 ⇒ 00:19:51.330 Samuel Roberts: Turf?
238 00:19:54.170 ⇒ 00:19:55.219 Samuel Roberts: Oh no, okay.
239 00:19:59.670 ⇒ 00:20:03.629 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, not sure. So for me, for me, for me on ABC, I’m gonna…
240 00:20:03.630 ⇒ 00:20:04.359 Surf: Was that for me?
241 00:20:04.940 ⇒ 00:20:07.150 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, yeah, I’ll show you. Just a quick update on you, man.
242 00:20:07.150 ⇒ 00:20:08.169 Surf: Sorry about that.
243 00:20:09.500 ⇒ 00:20:10.810 Surf: Close the question?
244 00:20:10.810 ⇒ 00:20:12.650 Samuel Roberts: Just an update on Remo, just, like…
245 00:20:12.650 ⇒ 00:20:15.580 Surf: Oh, remo’s in a good spot.
246 00:20:15.710 ⇒ 00:20:28.899 Surf: I’ll tell you where we are. So we fully deployed the application last week. On Wednesday, got the entire thing working, so we have a staging branch. We just started provisioning access to…
247 00:20:29.060 ⇒ 00:20:33.619 Surf: The Eden team…
248 00:20:33.920 ⇒ 00:20:42.899 Surf: Today, so that they could use it. We’re going through some scoping with them, to knock some stuff out, because ideally.
249 00:20:42.940 ⇒ 00:20:56.139 Surf: We had an open item for intake, and I told them everything that we’re doing for the current launch has to be lowest common denominator. So we just did some scoping on that. There’s no way that we can integrate their intake form into
250 00:20:56.210 ⇒ 00:21:10.380 Surf: the system that Cameron built. It’s just way too much work. That could be, like, a future follow-up. So, sending that over to them now so that they can understand that. open items for us right now are…
251 00:21:10.490 ⇒ 00:21:26.749 Surf: How we’re gonna work with BrainForge, I have the document on that. I guess when I say that, we have a bunch of data fields that we have to send over to you guys, so you guys can get that into BigQuery. So I already got the data from Robert, so I’m gonna start the work around…
252 00:21:26.810 ⇒ 00:21:35.230 Surf: actioning on that, this week, and Utam, I’m gonna probably push it through you, and then you’re gonna coordinate on that side, because I think that’s what me and you talked about when we last talked.
253 00:21:35.600 ⇒ 00:21:44.109 Surf: And then, started the work on the Beluga integration, which is the doctor portal.
254 00:21:44.310 ⇒ 00:21:54.669 Surf: Which is, again, prime, like, super important, piece. And then, I have a meeting today with Cameron, on the…
255 00:21:57.010 ⇒ 00:22:04.650 Surf: Pharmacy side, because once we get those two integrations, those are all the key integrations we need to actually, allow the entire thing to kind of work.
256 00:22:05.040 ⇒ 00:22:09.540 Surf: So it’s intake, just so everyone knows the flow. Intake.
257 00:22:09.740 ⇒ 00:22:17.190 Surf: Doctor network, than pharmacy.
258 00:22:17.610 ⇒ 00:22:22.390 Surf: And that’s the entire flow. As simple as it sounds, it’s very, very complex.
259 00:22:22.390 ⇒ 00:22:23.390 Samuel Roberts: Sure, I get it.
260 00:22:23.390 ⇒ 00:22:27.990 Surf: But yeah. So, finally, we’re in a good spot.
261 00:22:31.110 ⇒ 00:22:37.210 Samuel Roberts: Alright. Any other… Thoughts, generic updates, anything?
262 00:22:37.370 ⇒ 00:22:38.819 Samuel Roberts: That we didn’t cover.
263 00:22:39.680 ⇒ 00:22:40.680 Surf: That’s it for me.
264 00:22:40.980 ⇒ 00:22:43.379 Samuel Roberts: Okay, well, I mean, in general, beyond Remo, yeah.
265 00:22:44.390 ⇒ 00:22:44.910 Surf: I’m good.
266 00:22:44.910 ⇒ 00:22:46.279 Samuel Roberts: Anyone have anything else? Just…
267 00:22:46.690 ⇒ 00:22:51.640 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I wanna… I wanna try to get set up on Claude Code, like, this week or next week.
268 00:22:53.350 ⇒ 00:22:54.140 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
269 00:22:54.140 ⇒ 00:22:56.640 Uttam Kumaran: So, I don’t know, we could all think about how we…
270 00:22:57.340 ⇒ 00:23:01.799 Uttam Kumaran: how we do that, I just want to mess around, reading a lot of stuff on Twitter last week, so…
271 00:23:01.800 ⇒ 00:23:02.180 Surf: Yeah, I…
272 00:23:02.180 ⇒ 00:23:03.120 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, it’s…
273 00:23:03.120 ⇒ 00:23:10.229 Surf: Almost exclusively. That’s why I was like, I wanna hop on the Wednesday call, see what other people are doing, but… Yeah. I love it. It’s a beast.
274 00:23:10.230 ⇒ 00:23:13.939 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I haven’t touched Cloud Code yet, I’ve been in cursor the whole time, pretty much.
275 00:23:14.840 ⇒ 00:23:16.320 Samuel Roberts: So I’m curious to see.
276 00:23:17.950 ⇒ 00:23:21.880 Samuel Roberts: Okay, plug code setup, I guess.
277 00:23:22.330 ⇒ 00:23:24.680 Samuel Roberts: Okay, great.
278 00:23:28.700 ⇒ 00:23:30.830 Samuel Roberts: Alright, hmm.
279 00:23:30.830 ⇒ 00:23:31.260 Surf: And then also.
280 00:23:31.260 ⇒ 00:23:32.480 Samuel Roberts: So I, oh.
281 00:23:32.480 ⇒ 00:23:37.390 Surf: Also removed typing from my flow, so I use Whisper Flow.
282 00:23:37.540 ⇒ 00:23:38.270 Surf: So I talked.
283 00:23:38.270 ⇒ 00:23:38.860 Samuel Roberts: Oh, nice.
284 00:23:38.860 ⇒ 00:23:44.770 Uttam Kumaran: AI to talk to my AI to build things, it’s great. Yeah, I use Mr. Flow all the time.
285 00:23:45.570 ⇒ 00:23:50.159 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I was using the voice in Claude, er, cursor a little bit. I was like.
286 00:23:50.340 ⇒ 00:23:57.290 Samuel Roberts: holding my kid in one arm, doing something else, and I was just like, hey, I need to… and that’s when I started using it more, so I was like, this is actually really nice.
287 00:23:58.750 ⇒ 00:24:02.719 Samuel Roberts: I haven’t… I haven’t, like, made the full jump to voice completely yet, but…
288 00:24:03.080 ⇒ 00:24:04.870 Samuel Roberts: I gotta, I gotta, I gotta get there.
289 00:24:07.520 ⇒ 00:24:11.760 Samuel Roberts: Alright, any other thoughts or, you know, things like that?
290 00:24:12.620 ⇒ 00:24:14.689 Samuel Roberts: Basically getting to time, almost.
291 00:24:17.910 ⇒ 00:24:29.220 Samuel Roberts: I think we all kind of have… I have a bunch of things I owe people, PR review, catching up on the general prompt, Pranav, you and I will catch up after, before the meeting later.
292 00:24:31.160 ⇒ 00:24:37.750 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and then for now, maybe me and you, this, like, sometime tomorrow, or if we meet this week, we can work on,
293 00:24:38.620 ⇒ 00:24:40.889 Uttam Kumaran: for, Lilo.
294 00:24:41.090 ⇒ 00:24:44.490 Uttam Kumaran: And I can… and then… Once we kind of confirm that.
295 00:24:44.820 ⇒ 00:24:46.639 Uttam Kumaran: can… I can work on,
296 00:24:47.240 ⇒ 00:24:49.199 Uttam Kumaran: You can start working on tickets, basically.
297 00:24:50.860 ⇒ 00:24:55.099 Pranav: Oh, confirming, like, you’re saying, like, the hours?
298 00:24:58.910 ⇒ 00:24:59.580 Samuel Roberts: -Oh.
299 00:24:59.760 ⇒ 00:25:01.850 Samuel Roberts: I think you can come back. I think he froze.
300 00:25:02.020 ⇒ 00:25:05.090 Uttam Kumaran: No, I said, like, we… probably this week we can work on…
301 00:25:05.200 ⇒ 00:25:12.210 Uttam Kumaran: we can work on the Gantt chart together after today, and then we can confirm that together, then I can let you work on tickets.
302 00:25:12.450 ⇒ 00:25:17.669 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yeah, probably if they approve scope, we should loop Casey in, as, like, I see here.
303 00:25:19.350 ⇒ 00:25:20.130 Pranav: Sounds good.
304 00:25:23.590 ⇒ 00:25:24.990 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. Great.
305 00:25:24.990 ⇒ 00:25:29.410 Samuel Roberts: Thank you, everyone. Happy New Year again. Excited for this week.
306 00:25:29.810 ⇒ 00:25:32.510 Samuel Roberts: Kind of crazy guys. Yeah. Alright.
307 00:25:32.550 ⇒ 00:25:33.549 Uttam Kumaran: Bye. See y’all.
308 00:25:34.460 ⇒ 00:25:34.880 Gabriel Lam: Dale.
309 00:25:34.880 ⇒ 00:25:35.440 Casie Aviles: Thank you.
310 00:25:35.440 ⇒ 00:25:36.170 Surf: I…
311 00:25:36.980 ⇒ 00:25:37.820 Mustafa Raja: Thank you.