Meeting Title: Brainforge Go Anteater Project Sync Date: 2025-12-19 Meeting participants: Mustafa Raja, Mustafa’s Loom Notetaker, Casie Aviles


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1 00:10:21.050 00:10:22.750 Casie Aviles: Hey, Mustafa, sorry.

2 00:10:25.390 00:10:26.509 Mustafa Raja: Hey, how are you?

3 00:10:28.090 00:10:29.439 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, doing good.

4 00:10:31.060 00:10:34.319 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so we just need to come up with a Gantt chart that is…

5 00:10:35.090 00:10:37.749 Mustafa Raja: That is pretty accurate in terms of,

6 00:10:38.290 00:10:42.550 Mustafa Raja: Timelines, and then… assignments also. So…

7 00:10:43.710 00:10:47.320 Mustafa Raja: Let’s just look into the… are you in Instagram?

8 00:10:48.650 00:10:53.350 Casie Aviles: Oh, I think I… yeah, let me check.

9 00:10:54.320 00:10:55.080 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

10 00:11:05.300 00:11:11.269 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, let me know. If not, I can see if I can invite you, or we could ask Ripo, I believe.

11 00:11:15.900 00:11:23.200 Casie Aviles: I can see some invitations, but not for ABC. I see Lilo and Insomnia.

12 00:11:23.860 00:11:27.059 Mustafa Raja: Okay, let me see if I could do anything for that.

13 00:11:27.870 00:11:29.770 Casie Aviles: But I’m going to log in, right?

14 00:11:29.930 00:11:30.930 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

15 00:11:43.230 00:11:46.370 Casie Aviles: Okay, let me hear… no…

16 00:11:49.630 00:11:54.799 Mustafa Raja: Let me… Let me go… don’t you, because I cannot…

17 00:12:20.430 00:12:21.890 Mustafa Raja: Oh, damn…

18 00:12:24.640 00:12:34.199 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it says, we… I think it says that only workbook owners can edit, so I think it’s either going to be…

19 00:12:35.410 00:12:39.920 Mustafa Raja: Rico, or… With them.

20 00:12:41.400 00:12:42.240 Mustafa Raja: Yeah?

21 00:12:45.100 00:12:47.379 Casie Aviles: Oh, yeah, sure, sure. I mean, yeah, it…

22 00:12:47.540 00:12:49.660 Mustafa Raja: It’s okay, I mean, we can…

23 00:12:52.610 00:12:55.260 Casie Aviles: I can just look at what you’re sharing, right?

24 00:13:06.270 00:13:07.380 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, you could.

25 00:13:18.560 00:13:30.610 Mustafa Raja: Okay, so, I have… I have the migration somewhat mapped out, but this isn’t final, obviously. We still have a lot of stuff that’s just, you know, there.

26 00:13:30.860 00:13:33.460 Mustafa Raja: I’m not sure of the timelines, because…

27 00:13:33.950 00:13:36.180 Mustafa Raja: I thought we would be good.

28 00:13:36.420 00:13:40.269 Mustafa Raja: with these two today, but I don’t know. What do you think?

29 00:13:42.830 00:13:45.219 Casie Aviles: Oh, sorry, I was responding to…

30 00:13:45.220 00:13:49.879 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no worries, no worries. Yeah, first responders, then we can talk about this.

31 00:13:50.230 00:13:57.909 Casie Aviles: No, no, it… It’s fine. I’m on the call. So, you were asking which one?

32 00:13:58.240 00:14:00.380 Mustafa Raja: For this rebuild routing logic.

33 00:14:00.680 00:14:02.850 Casie Aviles: Rebuild routing logic.

34 00:14:03.040 00:14:12.610 Mustafa Raja: And then, implement master entry point. This is somewhat built. We did it again in LinkedIn, and with a different strategy, and it’s working pretty good.

35 00:14:13.040 00:14:14.090 Casie Aviles: Okay, nice.

36 00:14:16.550 00:14:18.940 Mustafa Raja: This is just not in my stream right now.

37 00:14:19.400 00:14:20.450 Casie Aviles: I see, I see.

38 00:14:20.450 00:14:21.860 Mustafa Raja: It can be a big hustle.

39 00:14:24.240 00:14:29.370 Casie Aviles: What? Okay, what’s the timeline that you set? 15 to 19?

40 00:14:33.170 00:14:42.499 Mustafa Raja: 19th today, though, right? Because, and we also want to… we also need to, you know, take in context that we need… what’s it called?

41 00:14:44.750 00:14:46.600 Mustafa Raja: We need to fix things up, too.

42 00:14:47.370 00:14:50.580 Casie Aviles: That’s true, so I, I think, I don’t think,

43 00:14:50.800 00:14:56.220 Casie Aviles: 19 would be the best date. We might need to move this to next week.

44 00:14:57.470 00:15:01.200 Casie Aviles: I think it’s always good to give buffer, you know?

45 00:15:01.830 00:15:06.019 Mustafa Raja: So do we… so are we feeling, like, 22, 23?

46 00:15:07.050 00:15:11.300 Casie Aviles: Let me check my account… 22 or 23…

47 00:15:11.910 00:15:16.759 Mustafa Raja: It’s like Monday… deadline… do you want the deadline to be Monday or Tuesday?

48 00:15:21.320 00:15:29.019 Casie Aviles: I guess my question is, what else do we need to do here? It’s not just the master part, right? Just the master part?

49 00:15:30.510 00:15:35.030 Mustafa Raja: So what we need here is,

50 00:15:35.130 00:15:52.689 Mustafa Raja: So this was initially dependent on Teams, we needed the instance to deploy it there, right? But Utem said that we could just, you know, use our GCP, deploy it there, and have it ready whenever Teams instance would be, you know, ready.

51 00:15:52.900 00:15:56.070 Casie Aviles: Yeah, we have those environments already, by the way.

52 00:15:56.570 00:15:59.919 Mustafa Raja: Oh, we have those. Yes, yes. Can you give us access.

53 00:16:00.710 00:16:06.070 Casie Aviles: Yeah, Tim gave us access from the Brainforge Go Anteater account.

54 00:16:07.160 00:16:11.070 Mustafa Raja: Okay, okay, okay. So, yeah, so this is pretty…

55 00:16:11.450 00:16:17.130 Mustafa Raja: Simple, I believe, we just need to, add the project entry point, right?

56 00:16:17.880 00:16:23.680 Mustafa Raja: mean request handling, we already have that deployed on Heroku, we could just deploy it on…

57 00:16:24.000 00:16:25.560 Mustafa Raja: Cloud Run.

58 00:16:26.050 00:16:26.379 Casie Aviles: I agree.

59 00:16:26.380 00:16:32.920 Mustafa Raja: Are we going to use Cloud Run, or do we want to use anything else? I’m not sure on there.

60 00:16:33.320 00:16:35.639 Casie Aviles: I think Cloud Run is…

61 00:16:37.240 00:16:44.549 Casie Aviles: the option that I found there, so we can try that. But if it doesn’t work out, then I think…

62 00:16:44.650 00:16:48.650 Casie Aviles: I can also take a look at other ones, but I think Cloud Run should be fine.

63 00:16:49.100 00:16:50.489 Mustafa Raja: Hmm. I think there’s…

64 00:16:50.490 00:16:51.460 Casie Aviles: It’s an option there.

65 00:16:51.460 00:17:11.439 Mustafa Raja: I don’t know if Cloud Run is a server, or if it is, you know, to run a function, because if it is not a server, then it… then what’s going to happen is it’s going to try to, you know, start the server every time a request comes, which is going to, you know, add some…

66 00:17:12.619 00:17:14.779 Casie Aviles: Oh… I see.

67 00:17:14.780 00:17:17.540 Mustafa Raja: What do you think about that? What do you feel about that?

68 00:17:18.339 00:17:23.909 Mustafa Raja: Oh, for that, I’m not sure that works yet. Yeah, I guess we’ll have to verify that too, right?

69 00:17:24.400 00:17:26.730 Casie Aviles: That’s… yeah, yeah, we, do.

70 00:17:28.030 00:17:28.840 Mustafa Raja: Okay.

71 00:17:29.000 00:17:36.929 Mustafa Raja: Okay, so this is just going to be deploying, whatever the current Andy would be.

72 00:17:36.930 00:17:52.249 Mustafa Raja: And then this would be my task. This shouldn’t take me much longer, I have all of the pieces in there, in edit, and I’ll just have to translate those into Master. So this should not be big of a fuss.

73 00:17:53.090 00:17:54.220 Casie Aviles: Alright, okay.

74 00:17:54.840 00:17:59.800 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. This should be, like… this should… for me, this should be, like, 1 point.

75 00:18:00.600 00:18:09.250 Mustafa Raja: And I feel like this could be about 2 points, or 3 points worth of task, because… just because we don’t… we don’t know how master acts on…

76 00:18:09.960 00:18:12.850 Mustafa Raja: certain… Platforms.

77 00:18:13.960 00:18:18.280 Casie Aviles: Okay, great. So I think that should be… yeah, we can push that to next week, then.

78 00:18:20.560 00:18:22.219 Casie Aviles: 22, yeah.

79 00:18:23.690 00:18:24.770 Casie Aviles: That’s fine.

80 00:18:24.770 00:18:28.630 Mustafa Raja: Oh, 20… do you want the deadline to be 22 or 23? Sorry.

81 00:18:29.040 00:18:34.199 Casie Aviles: Yeah, okay, let’s just set it to 23, so if we finish it earlier, then that’s good.

82 00:18:34.470 00:18:35.300 Mustafa Raja: Okay.

83 00:18:36.080 00:18:41.129 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, and what do you feel about migrating over, by the way, and user feedback after that?

84 00:18:42.810 00:18:47.620 Casie Aviles: Oh, by the way, user feedback… yeah, this should be faster.

85 00:18:49.110 00:18:54.410 Casie Aviles: But I think this timeline… oh, 24-25, that’s holidays.

86 00:18:55.470 00:18:58.049 Mustafa Raja: I think these are also holidays, no?

87 00:19:00.170 00:19:02.630 Casie Aviles: 26, let me check…

88 00:19:03.040 00:19:05.570 Mustafa Raja: This is the Christmas time off, no?

89 00:19:07.460 00:19:13.669 Casie Aviles: E, yeah, that’s Friday. Amy, I might still be on.

90 00:19:14.030 00:19:16.870 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I might also still be on, I’m not sure, though.

91 00:19:17.030 00:19:19.770 Casie Aviles: But for Christmas, I will be out.

92 00:19:20.120 00:19:24.180 Casie Aviles: Probably, yeah, most likely for the 25th and,

93 00:19:24.800 00:19:31.189 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I’m not sure how US does it, because in the Philippines, it’s kind of… I guess it’s a little different as well, but…

94 00:19:31.450 00:19:33.489 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I’ll be on 26.

95 00:19:34.560 00:19:35.220 Mustafa Raja: Hmm.

96 00:19:35.220 00:19:40.410 Casie Aviles: At least, yeah. And 27 to the… oh, those are…

97 00:19:40.410 00:19:42.480 Mustafa Raja: 27-28 would be Saturday, Sunday.

98 00:19:42.480 00:19:43.990 Casie Aviles: Weekends.

99 00:19:46.630 00:19:47.739 Casie Aviles: Oh, hmm.

100 00:19:47.930 00:19:49.000 Casie Aviles: Let’s see…

101 00:19:52.310 00:19:56.899 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I think, yeah, I think this should be fine for now.

102 00:19:58.490 00:19:59.300 Mustafa Raja: Okay.

103 00:20:01.050 00:20:03.570 Casie Aviles: I feel like it’s not gonna be us.

104 00:20:04.190 00:20:06.769 Mustafa Raja: This I’m just going to… As long.

105 00:20:07.350 00:20:13.010 Casie Aviles: Because we already have the code, really, we’re just gonna translate it into TypeScript, right?

106 00:20:15.550 00:20:17.309 Mustafa Raja: Sorry, can you say that again?

107 00:20:18.380 00:20:23.039 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah, in the Python, yeah, we have the Python scripts, and we have to translate those.

108 00:20:25.670 00:20:28.529 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I think… I think that would be faster. These are just…

109 00:20:39.450 00:20:41.769 Mustafa Raja: Sorry, are you saying something?

110 00:20:41.770 00:20:42.839 Casie Aviles: Did they cut off?

111 00:20:43.390 00:20:44.809 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, you got off.

112 00:20:45.450 00:20:48.869 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, we can keep it for now, this way.

113 00:20:49.770 00:20:53.499 Casie Aviles: The migration for the, oh, by the ways and the feedback.

114 00:20:54.500 00:20:55.240 Mustafa Raja: Okay.

115 00:20:55.570 00:20:57.490 Casie Aviles: Okay, you moved it. Alright.

116 00:20:58.050 00:21:03.710 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this one, because I feel today we’ll mostly be working on fixes, no?

117 00:21:05.100 00:21:10.849 Casie Aviles: That’s true, yeah, for this week, it’s mostly fixes. Did we talk about, like.

118 00:21:11.250 00:21:14.529 Casie Aviles: The, moving the migration work?

119 00:21:14.950 00:21:20.400 Mustafa Raja: Moving the mic… sorry, could you say that again?

120 00:21:20.400 00:21:21.139 Casie Aviles: I mean…

121 00:21:21.470 00:21:31.729 Casie Aviles: For this week, I know that we’re focusing on just the fixes, right? So, does that mean we’re also moving the migration work to, I guess, next week?

122 00:21:31.980 00:21:32.700 Casie Aviles: Okay.

123 00:21:33.930 00:21:35.740 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I guess Utam said that,

124 00:21:36.810 00:21:44.530 Mustafa Raja: we need more brainpower on the fixes, but I’m not sure on… What’s it called? Migration, though.

125 00:21:45.800 00:21:49.810 Casie Aviles: Yeah, because I believe earlier in the week, you were already working, but yeah.

126 00:21:49.810 00:21:50.150 Mustafa Raja: Okay.

127 00:21:50.150 00:21:51.970 Casie Aviles: Okay, this is fine, this is fine.

128 00:21:52.150 00:21:53.500 Casie Aviles: I was just curious.

129 00:21:54.180 00:21:57.260 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’ve assigned this to myself…

130 00:21:58.190 00:22:00.169 Mustafa Raja: Should I assign this to you or something?

131 00:22:03.550 00:22:05.600 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, go ahead, go ahead.

132 00:22:07.300 00:22:09.430 Mustafa Raja: Oh, you’re not in here, no…

133 00:22:09.800 00:22:11.910 Casie Aviles: I think Rico responded.

134 00:22:14.180 00:22:15.210 Mustafa Raja: Did he?

135 00:22:15.210 00:22:17.289 Casie Aviles: Oh, Tom handled it, I think.

136 00:22:22.240 00:22:31.399 Mustafa Raja: Okay, so if you could reload them, I’ll also reload… it should show up in the projects. Not the projects, but the workbooks.

137 00:22:34.370 00:22:35.060 Casie Aviles: Okay.

138 00:22:35.690 00:22:36.659 Casie Aviles: Let me see…

139 00:22:39.840 00:22:41.739 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, you can… here you are.

140 00:22:42.060 00:22:43.550 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I see ABC now.

141 00:22:44.050 00:22:49.160 Mustafa Raja: This… I created this, Casey. You had this one.

142 00:22:51.370 00:22:52.080 Mustafa Raja: Okay.

143 00:22:55.880 00:23:04.630 Mustafa Raja: Okay, so this is you. Let’s actually make it… Mmm… 4 hours, let’s true.

144 00:23:07.780 00:23:08.910 Mustafa Raja: Okay.

145 00:23:09.160 00:23:13.109 Mustafa Raja: And these ones we could say 2 hours, right? Per…

146 00:23:13.110 00:23:15.139 Casie Aviles: Yeah, let’s… let’s do two.

147 00:23:15.540 00:23:17.750 Mustafa Raja: Too far, or to both?

148 00:23:19.340 00:23:25.399 Casie Aviles: Oh, yeah, I think let’s do both for now.

149 00:23:26.300 00:23:27.070 Mustafa Raja: Okay.

150 00:23:30.810 00:23:34.389 Casie Aviles: Let’s go to grade 1 and 1. Yes, sure, sure.

151 00:23:41.250 00:23:47.200 Casie Aviles: Oh, but… Yeah, I was just thinking, are we also considering, like, the tests?

152 00:23:48.180 00:23:55.220 Casie Aviles: That’s… I guess let’s do 1.5. 1.5 for… Just to give some time.

153 00:23:55.370 00:23:56.580 Casie Aviles: for testing.

154 00:23:56.980 00:23:59.779 Casie Aviles: As well. So it’s not, like, too long.

155 00:24:00.250 00:24:01.600 Casie Aviles: Okay, there.

156 00:24:07.030 00:24:13.019 Mustafa Raja: Okay, yeah, so we have the… I think we have the testing ones also here.

157 00:24:13.270 00:24:18.440 Mustafa Raja: So, integrate structure logging. Now, this is going to take some time.

158 00:24:18.920 00:24:22.610 Mustafa Raja: Do we also have the BigQuery instance now?

159 00:24:22.960 00:24:25.560 Casie Aviles: Yes, we do.

160 00:24:26.160 00:24:32.850 Mustafa Raja: Okay, validate response correctness. Yeah, I don’t have a good idea on how we’re going to do this.

161 00:24:32.980 00:24:33.810 Mustafa Raja: You know?

162 00:24:34.440 00:24:36.179 Casie Aviles: Response correctness versus.

163 00:24:36.180 00:24:44.930 Mustafa Raja: I guess we have the sheet, and we could verify if both the instances give the same answer, you know? The master one and the one in it.

164 00:24:45.940 00:24:46.640 Casie Aviles: Hmm.

165 00:24:48.150 00:24:52.070 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I mean, this… this might be, like,

166 00:24:52.420 00:24:57.710 Casie Aviles: this might need more discussion into how we can do it. Our initial plan…

167 00:24:57.980 00:25:01.289 Casie Aviles: Was to build, like, a golden dataset.

168 00:25:02.580 00:25:06.359 Casie Aviles: So that… we actually did that at the start of Andy.

169 00:25:07.880 00:25:17.129 Casie Aviles: But… It didn’t end up being… very helpful, because… Do you remember Brain Trust?

170 00:25:17.130 00:25:18.149 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I do.

171 00:25:18.640 00:25:25.860 Casie Aviles: Yeah, the way we did that was, kind of weird, and it’s… Not the best solution.

172 00:25:26.280 00:25:29.060 Casie Aviles: So maybe we have to rethink.

173 00:25:30.040 00:25:33.040 Casie Aviles: What’s the best way to do evals for…

174 00:25:33.970 00:25:34.700 Mustafa Raja: Hmm…

175 00:25:36.520 00:25:43.529 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’m gonna repeat here, because we sort of have answers on these queries, I believe.

176 00:25:44.990 00:25:56.700 Mustafa Raja: We could potentially test the user SSR test data, we could… naked use… this… Temporarily.

177 00:26:00.620 00:26:08.480 Mustafa Raja: June and… And it didn’t… We use master responses.

178 00:26:13.390 00:26:14.460 Mustafa Raja: Okay.

179 00:26:14.750 00:26:16.929 Mustafa Raja: And then, fixed edge cases.

180 00:26:17.590 00:26:20.270 Mustafa Raja: This is just going to be after this, right?

181 00:26:23.310 00:26:24.600 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I think so.

182 00:26:25.540 00:26:29.530 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, let’s just, and then let’s just also make it dependent on this.

183 00:26:32.980 00:26:34.220 Mustafa Raja: And then… Or…

184 00:26:35.220 00:26:41.320 Casie Aviles: the validate response correctness, that might actually just be a one-time thing, though. I think…

185 00:26:41.880 00:26:46.910 Casie Aviles: it depends, you know, I don’t know if you wanna, like, do an actual…

186 00:26:47.620 00:26:52.790 Casie Aviles: I think we should, though, like… like, the evals… section, right

187 00:26:53.120 00:26:56.239 Casie Aviles: Did we have that? Did we add that to this?

188 00:26:56.240 00:27:01.530 Mustafa Raja: I think we do have something, yeah, eval’s another thing, that’s a separate thing here.

189 00:27:02.730 00:27:07.310 Casie Aviles: Okay, okay. So that validation, then, is just a one-time thing, then?

190 00:27:07.760 00:27:08.600 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

191 00:27:08.830 00:27:09.560 Casie Aviles: Okay.

192 00:27:09.960 00:27:18.710 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, with that, I guess once that is done, we could… we could do some… Edges, or something, right?

193 00:27:18.920 00:27:20.380 Mustafa Raja: Does this make sense?

194 00:27:21.040 00:27:31.769 Casie Aviles: Yes, yes, yes. I guess for that, then, what we’ll do there is we’re just gonna compare, you know, the old questions, old answers to the new answers.

195 00:27:32.790 00:27:33.610 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

196 00:27:33.960 00:27:36.330 Casie Aviles: Okay, yeah, thank you for clarifying.

197 00:27:36.990 00:27:43.750 Mustafa Raja: Okay, and then… Let’s just… Let’s leave this for now.

198 00:27:46.980 00:27:52.699 Mustafa Raja: I could take this… this is only going to be running it over the sheet.

199 00:27:54.500 00:27:55.190 Casie Aviles: Okay.

200 00:27:56.380 00:27:59.810 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I also don’t mind helping you there.

201 00:28:00.220 00:28:02.720 Mustafa Raja: Okay, yeah, I guess I’ll need help here.

202 00:28:03.140 00:28:06.040 Mustafa Raja: Let’s actually add both of us.

203 00:28:06.730 00:28:14.119 Mustafa Raja: 419… Yeah, good thing here that we could add multiple assignees, right?

204 00:28:18.070 00:28:28.669 Mustafa Raja: Okay, validate document relevance… And… what the… what is this? Document relevance and retrieval accuracy.

205 00:28:28.850 00:28:36.699 Mustafa Raja: I think it… I think the retrieval isn’t an issue right now. The issue is how the documents are structured. What do you feel about that?

206 00:28:38.680 00:28:46.840 Mustafa Raja: You mean how ABC structures their documents? The central docs, the way the documents are structured.

207 00:28:48.130 00:28:51.170 Mustafa Raja: Let me show you, actually, what do I mean? Sure.

208 00:28:52.300 00:28:53.110 Casie Aviles: Sure, sure.

209 00:28:55.950 00:28:57.979 Mustafa Raja: Can you have 15 minutes?

210 00:29:01.460 00:29:07.240 Mustafa Raja: I think there’s something… Yeah, so for example…

211 00:29:09.130 00:29:16.420 Mustafa Raja: For example, in this one, they said… they asked this question, AI gave them this answer.

212 00:29:16.780 00:29:23.559 Mustafa Raja: But then the feedback is that we need this string also in the answer, you know?

213 00:29:23.700 00:29:31.080 Mustafa Raja: But then, if we look into this section for filter pricing, there is nothing mentioned regarding that, right?

214 00:29:32.180 00:29:32.830 Casie Aviles: Mmm.

215 00:29:34.360 00:29:38.280 Mustafa Raja: And then it is actually mentioned, but in another heading.

216 00:29:39.730 00:29:40.750 Casie Aviles: I see.

217 00:29:41.380 00:29:53.280 Mustafa Raja: You know? So if you need something, if you need… if you need information like this, we could… we could structure this better. We could have this string both… in both parts.

218 00:29:53.520 00:29:54.620 Mustafa Raja: You know?

219 00:29:54.760 00:30:02.249 Mustafa Raja: And then… That, that’s just going to be, that’s just, that’s just going to give the answers, right?

220 00:30:03.960 00:30:05.779 Casie Aviles: Okay. Yeah, I see.

221 00:30:07.640 00:30:10.750 Casie Aviles: So, yeah, I think it might require some…

222 00:30:11.290 00:30:12.980 Mustafa Raja: I’m British.

223 00:30:13.350 00:30:16.499 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I’m pretty sure we need to kind of think about…

224 00:30:16.900 00:30:22.040 Casie Aviles: We probably need to do a review of, like, The central dock again.

225 00:30:22.760 00:30:23.740 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.

226 00:30:24.430 00:30:25.780 Mustafa Raja: And then…

227 00:30:25.900 00:30:34.759 Mustafa Raja: And then this was actually, this actually… so, which team handles… which team handles trimming and removing bamboo?

228 00:30:36.070 00:30:41.210 Mustafa Raja: Master Gardener’s team. This actually came from referrals heading, right?

229 00:30:45.670 00:30:46.949 Casie Aviles: Hmm, yeah.

230 00:30:46.950 00:31:03.059 Mustafa Raja: Okay, this, this came from referrals heading, but, but referrals had a subheading that was Master Gardener’s team, with the team members. And so, we only, we only are recording the immediate heading, right? We are… we are not, recording the tree.

231 00:31:03.180 00:31:19.740 Mustafa Raja: Right? Tree of her headings, you know? So it starts from the… comes down to referrals, and then in the referrals, Master Gardeners, and then these are the Master Gardeners, you know? If we could have done that, this… this answer would have been a lot better.

232 00:31:20.850 00:31:29.790 Mustafa Raja: This would have mentioned that we refer… we referred this service to this team, right?

233 00:31:30.170 00:31:30.880 Casie Aviles: Yes.

234 00:31:31.440 00:31:43.570 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so this is… this is… yeah, so this is actually the way we are doing the RAG, right? So this is something that me and Sam discussed that we should improve. This is another thing.

235 00:31:43.830 00:31:50.419 Casie Aviles: Okay, did… oh, did we also, like, talk about… Improving the rag itself, or…

236 00:31:51.310 00:31:54.019 Mustafa Raja: By rack, do we mean the pipeline?

237 00:31:54.550 00:31:57.540 Casie Aviles: Yeah, because right now it’s all in N8N, right?

238 00:31:58.330 00:32:03.330 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah, we haven’t… we haven’t discussed the migration for that at all.

239 00:32:03.590 00:32:04.270 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it’s just…

240 00:32:04.270 00:32:04.620 Casie Aviles: Yeah.

241 00:32:04.630 00:32:11.519 Mustafa Raja: It’s just a piece… only one piece here for that, because this needs some discussion.

242 00:32:11.940 00:32:14.730 Casie Aviles: That’s true, we… I think we need to…

243 00:32:14.730 00:32:16.129 Mustafa Raja: He never got to this.

244 00:32:16.540 00:32:22.920 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, okay. So I think we’ll need to block off some time to talk about that, I guess. Is that…

245 00:32:23.200 00:32:25.130 Casie Aviles: Yeah, okay. Yeah.

246 00:32:28.140 00:32:41.630 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so we need improvements on both sides. We need to improve the way we are embedding, we need to include more data in the metadata, and then we also need to make sure that the structure does support good answers, you know?

247 00:32:42.880 00:32:43.740 Casie Aviles: Okay.

248 00:32:45.940 00:32:47.270 Casie Aviles: I’m also kind of…

249 00:32:48.290 00:32:54.249 Casie Aviles: Yeah, okay. I’m not sure if we should also do, like, another spike to check, because…

250 00:32:54.940 00:33:03.330 Casie Aviles: you know, I saw something, like, I think they have… Google released something… Where you can just…

251 00:33:04.560 00:33:09.879 Casie Aviles: upload the doc… or the file, or the document, I think, and then it handles the…

252 00:33:10.230 00:33:12.270 Casie Aviles: embeddings for you, but I’m not sure if…

253 00:33:13.000 00:33:15.689 Casie Aviles: how well that works. I just…

254 00:33:15.860 00:33:19.249 Casie Aviles: saw it somewhere on YouTube, which is kind of new.

255 00:33:19.660 00:33:22.250 Casie Aviles: So, yeah, I think we…

256 00:33:22.350 00:33:36.699 Mustafa Raja: That’s… I mean, if Google is handling that, Google would also handle the updates also, right? And so that, that, that looks, that looks pretty good, pretty promising, if it… if it actually is good, you know?

257 00:33:37.620 00:33:38.120 Mustafa Raja: So…

258 00:33:38.120 00:33:38.529 Casie Aviles: That’s true.

259 00:33:38.530 00:33:41.349 Mustafa Raja: Maybe, maybe it’s worth, worth giving a look.

260 00:33:42.520 00:33:44.070 Casie Aviles: Okay. Yeah, yeah.

261 00:33:44.380 00:33:45.610 Casie Aviles: Definitely.

262 00:33:46.090 00:33:50.949 Casie Aviles: I guess some, some… Stuff comes out versus before, you know.

263 00:33:51.420 00:33:53.909 Casie Aviles: And we always have to do another spike.

264 00:33:54.760 00:33:56.639 Casie Aviles: Because there’s always something new.

265 00:33:57.080 00:33:58.000 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

266 00:33:58.270 00:33:59.570 Casie Aviles: Okay, yeah, yeah.

267 00:34:01.230 00:34:09.329 Mustafa Raja: Okay, evaluate document relevance, and… Hmm, what, what… this is… this is also going to be something like…

268 00:34:09.850 00:34:11.550 Mustafa Raja: This, right?

269 00:34:12.150 00:34:14.920 Casie Aviles: Yeah, that’s similar. Validate… oh…

270 00:34:14.920 00:34:15.690 Mustafa Raja: Okay, so…

271 00:34:15.690 00:34:17.509 Casie Aviles: I think that’s also kind of…

272 00:34:17.659 00:34:20.069 Casie Aviles: Related to reviewing the central dope.

273 00:34:20.370 00:34:22.949 Casie Aviles: Sorry, sir. The central dog.

274 00:34:23.600 00:34:24.520 Mustafa Raja: Oh, this one.

275 00:34:25.820 00:34:27.349 Casie Aviles: The second one.

276 00:34:27.770 00:34:28.590 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.

277 00:34:28.590 00:34:28.980 Casie Aviles: Excellent.

278 00:34:28.980 00:34:32.139 Mustafa Raja: This is… this is for that.

279 00:34:32.580 00:34:40.470 Mustafa Raja: And then… Concurrent usage… I guess we could just…

280 00:34:40.650 00:34:43.859 Mustafa Raja: Pass a few requests, and see that.

281 00:34:44.150 00:34:46.459 Mustafa Raja: We could actually test this right now.

282 00:34:49.670 00:34:51.850 Mustafa Raja: Freaks performance and correctness issues.

283 00:34:52.880 00:34:56.480 Mustafa Raja: This is based on… both of these.

284 00:35:03.390 00:35:04.090 Mustafa Raja: you know.

285 00:35:07.670 00:35:09.160 Mustafa Raja: Does this make sense?

286 00:35:09.500 00:35:12.649 Mustafa Raja: We don’t have proper timings yet, but we could get to that.

287 00:35:13.570 00:35:17.089 Mustafa Raja: Validator scale accuracy and permission boundaries.

288 00:35:17.200 00:35:20.809 Casie Aviles: Okay. What do you mean by permission boundaries? Do we not… do we…

289 00:35:21.950 00:35:25.639 Casie Aviles: I’m not sure what that permission boundaries means, though.

290 00:35:25.640 00:35:33.509 Mustafa Raja: Let me… let me rephrase it then. We also would want to… we only would want to do the SQL accuracy, right?

291 00:35:34.280 00:35:35.220 Casie Aviles: Yes.

292 00:35:35.360 00:35:38.370 Casie Aviles: I think… Also, another one.

293 00:35:38.920 00:35:44.159 Casie Aviles: I’m not sure if we have that already, is to review, like, the database itself.

294 00:35:44.380 00:35:46.960 Casie Aviles: So, like, I think we had a lot of…

295 00:35:48.140 00:35:59.689 Casie Aviles: We had a lot of notes yesterday, where, you know, one column could be linked to another column, so maybe we need to spend some time… Yeah, yeah, I discussed that with them,

296 00:35:59.860 00:36:00.510 Casie Aviles: Okay.

297 00:36:02.290 00:36:06.540 Mustafa Raja: Okay, that comes, that comes under fixes, right?

298 00:36:08.820 00:36:10.140 Casie Aviles: fixes.

299 00:36:10.440 00:36:14.220 Casie Aviles: Yes, yes, and we’re just gonna do another review.

300 00:36:14.910 00:36:15.660 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

301 00:36:17.780 00:36:18.690 Mustafa Raja: Okay.

302 00:36:19.270 00:36:23.139 Mustafa Raja: Okay, let’s just come up with some of the fixes, because…

303 00:36:24.270 00:36:30.259 Mustafa Raja: We are on time, and in the 10 minutes we have to go into the meeting.

304 00:36:30.670 00:36:36.760 Mustafa Raja: fixes… so, on top of my head, a link… Service…

305 00:36:37.380 00:36:41.580 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I think after the meeting, I can hop on again, so we can finalize.

306 00:36:41.580 00:36:48.169 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I’d want that, because yesterday we worked on the same thing, right?

307 00:36:50.690 00:37:00.110 Mustafa Raja: Service names… Services name, service egos.Service.

308 00:37:02.240 00:37:03.360 Mustafa Raja: News.

309 00:37:05.340 00:37:10.320 Mustafa Raja: to services… Don’t need…

310 00:37:10.570 00:37:22.749 Mustafa Raja: I’m just going to say that, and then there is another one. So, do we think that, so, so what do the init forms do, exactly?

311 00:37:23.130 00:37:26.880 Casie Aviles: Dna that forms… Help update…

312 00:37:27.120 00:37:32.469 Casie Aviles: just the assignments. So, we have a lot of different tables, but it just affects

313 00:37:33.040 00:37:41.360 Casie Aviles: The assignments table, so it lets us update an assignment, add an assignment, and delete an assignment, pretty much.

314 00:37:41.500 00:37:46.600 Casie Aviles: But, for example, if we want to…

315 00:37:47.470 00:37:51.810 Casie Aviles: There are some limitations as well, like… Ad…

316 00:37:51.810 00:37:53.829 Mustafa Raja: We cannot add any new people, right?

317 00:37:54.490 00:37:58.549 Casie Aviles: Oh, actually, we can add now. I added that feature.

318 00:37:58.920 00:38:01.550 Casie Aviles: some time ago, last month, I believe.

319 00:38:02.000 00:38:11.580 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, but I believe we were discussing that Eniton has And it forms isn’t flexible.

320 00:38:11.580 00:38:12.380 Casie Aviles: That’s true, yeah.

321 00:38:12.690 00:38:26.550 Mustafa Raja: And what happens is it creates friction, and I believe that the user experience isn’t good… good with it too, right? Because we don’t see… we are not seeing any adoption from ABC people.

322 00:38:26.620 00:38:34.749 Mustafa Raja: Right? Because we still have to update the people or assignments in there. We have the sheets for mechanical and home improvement, right?

323 00:38:35.770 00:38:44.630 Casie Aviles: That’s true, yeah. I use the forms, but it’s really just me using it when it’s, like, simple operations.

324 00:38:45.000 00:38:50.210 Casie Aviles: But, you know, for more complicated… Updates…

325 00:38:50.480 00:38:53.880 Casie Aviles: I think, yeah, definitely there’s a lot we can improve.

326 00:38:54.480 00:38:55.410 Casie Aviles: And…

327 00:38:55.620 00:39:03.909 Casie Aviles: I think that’s also why we wanted to build, like… that’s also something I raised where… where we should do, like, a custom…

328 00:39:04.270 00:39:09.400 Casie Aviles: form. It’s just that we didn’t have a lot of

329 00:39:09.510 00:39:12.599 Casie Aviles: You know, built solutions for that, so…

330 00:39:12.850 00:39:16.390 Casie Aviles: I think that’s something we also have to discuss.

331 00:39:17.460 00:39:18.140 Mustafa Raja: Hmm.

332 00:39:19.190 00:39:23.110 Mustafa Raja: And it informs… not flexible.

333 00:39:26.070 00:39:34.570 Casie Aviles: Yeah, and yeah, it’s very… I mean, it’s good for quick… Prototypes, or, like… Get something used…

334 00:39:34.570 00:39:35.670 Mustafa Raja: Is this good?

335 00:39:37.320 00:39:39.319 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, I think so, yeah.

336 00:39:39.510 00:39:45.259 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, okay. And then, on top of that, I’m just going to say…

337 00:39:47.140 00:39:56.069 Mustafa Raja: add data in database, because for now, it’s on us, right? ABC people aren’t going to do it, right?

338 00:39:56.860 00:40:02.530 Casie Aviles: Yeah, they’re, they’re, they’re… yeah, we’re the ones adding the… Doing the changes.

339 00:40:03.220 00:40:08.569 Mustafa Raja: But Okam is saying that we want to, delegate this to them, right?

340 00:40:10.800 00:40:12.859 Casie Aviles: Yeah, ideally, I think that’s what…

341 00:40:13.270 00:40:15.879 Casie Aviles: That’s what he was trying to get at, because…

342 00:40:16.050 00:40:21.690 Casie Aviles: we’re gonna… it’s gonna be difficult for us if we keep doing it. It’s gonna…

343 00:40:21.850 00:40:23.899 Casie Aviles: Take up so much time from us.

344 00:40:24.480 00:40:25.610 Casie Aviles: And, yeah.

345 00:40:26.750 00:40:29.439 Casie Aviles: So it should be, like, self-service, I believe.

346 00:40:34.770 00:40:35.580 Mustafa Raja: Monkey.

347 00:40:35.750 00:40:39.129 Mustafa Raja: Okay, and this is going to enable that, right?

348 00:40:39.960 00:40:40.730 Casie Aviles: This phone…

349 00:40:40.730 00:40:42.629 Mustafa Raja: If we click that…

350 00:40:43.400 00:40:45.510 Casie Aviles: Yes.

351 00:40:46.000 00:40:50.750 Mustafa Raja: By self-service, we mean… we mean,

352 00:40:51.440 00:40:55.680 Mustafa Raja: ABC people should be able to come in and update the data themselves, right?

353 00:40:55.850 00:40:57.580 Casie Aviles: Yes, exactly, exactly.

354 00:40:58.180 00:41:00.270 Mustafa Raja: Okay, so this is going to enable that.

355 00:41:00.430 00:41:06.500 Mustafa Raja: This is going to enable us to mitigate any of the, service name confusions.

356 00:41:08.070 00:41:10.880 Mustafa Raja: So let’s just add those notes in there.

357 00:41:13.170 00:41:16.509 Casie Aviles: And we might even, you know, we might even…

358 00:41:16.790 00:41:25.200 Casie Aviles: If we review, like, how the database is structured right now, we might even find more fixes, though. So that’s just one thing we found right now.

359 00:41:27.390 00:41:28.330 Mustafa Raja: Yeah…

360 00:41:28.950 00:41:31.250 Casie Aviles: Yeah, just something to… Consider.

361 00:41:31.250 00:41:34.479 Mustafa Raja: Okay, yeah, I’m thinking of how should I put it?

362 00:41:35.580 00:41:41.800 Mustafa Raja: Okay, for now, let me do this first, this will help… The agent…

363 00:41:48.430 00:41:53.210 Mustafa Raja: Well, sorry.

364 00:41:55.810 00:41:56.700 Casie Aviles: I’ll be back.

365 00:41:57.130 00:41:57.980 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

366 00:41:59.600 00:42:01.379 Mustafa Raja: Using mutual screenings.

367 00:42:04.390 00:42:05.610 Mustafa Raja: That’s the teaching.

368 00:42:07.400 00:42:09.379 Mustafa Raja: And then… let’s see…

369 00:42:32.650 00:42:33.520 Casie Aviles: Okay, I’m back.

370 00:42:34.660 00:42:37.850 Mustafa Raja: Hey, this looks good for anything forms.

371 00:42:39.430 00:42:40.620 Casie Aviles: Yes, yes.

372 00:42:41.350 00:42:43.849 Mustafa Raja: And then this is what this… hmm.

373 00:42:44.640 00:42:46.520 Casie Aviles: Well, this is the data.

374 00:42:46.840 00:42:53.740 Mustafa Raja: What this is going to do is, it’s just going to temporarily… temporarily sync.

375 00:42:54.150 00:43:05.730 Mustafa Raja: Tempo, definitely… Sync… With what, temporarily sync with… Gsheet…

376 00:43:07.450 00:43:14.690 Mustafa Raja: So the data is accurate, so the… and the… Phone now has up-to-date data.

377 00:43:17.700 00:43:24.090 Mustafa Raja: Okay, let’s just map these, then… Okay.

378 00:43:26.000 00:43:33.719 Mustafa Raja: We want to focus on the fixes today, so let me know how you’re thinking to distribute this.

379 00:43:37.540 00:43:41.620 Mustafa Raja: This is going to be us, so I’m just going to… do this.

380 00:43:42.420 00:43:45.340 Mustafa Raja: This is going to be us both, doing it this way.

381 00:43:45.930 00:43:48.899 Casie Aviles: Yes, we’re doing that now.

382 00:43:50.970 00:43:56.199 Mustafa Raja: Let me actually put this here, because, yeah, this should be done today, right?

383 00:43:56.870 00:44:02.040 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, I’m going to work on… depth today.

384 00:44:02.220 00:44:04.440 Casie Aviles: The missing technicians.

385 00:44:08.240 00:44:09.379 Mustafa Raja: Does this look good?

386 00:44:11.900 00:44:13.289 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I think so.

387 00:44:13.530 00:44:21.400 Casie Aviles: Oh, wait, for the forms… Do we need to work on that, like… Immediately, because…

388 00:44:22.180 00:44:24.810 Casie Aviles: It might be, like, a bigger design issue.

389 00:44:25.150 00:44:26.840 Casie Aviles: And we need to migrate.

390 00:44:27.610 00:44:29.110 Casie Aviles: But I’m not sure if…

391 00:44:30.740 00:44:31.150 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

392 00:44:31.150 00:44:31.550 Casie Aviles: You’re right.

393 00:44:31.550 00:44:36.370 Mustafa Raja: For this, we’ll have to… we’ll have to first at least discuss this stuff with…

394 00:44:36.580 00:44:44.979 Mustafa Raja: Sam, get him on board with the issue, and then, yeah, loop him in in every step.

395 00:44:45.470 00:44:46.940 Mustafa Raja: We are thinking of.

396 00:44:47.890 00:44:56.000 Casie Aviles: Okay, yeah, because… I did some updates to the forms last week, but… I’m not sure if…

397 00:44:56.180 00:45:02.200 Casie Aviles: You know, it’s… it’s… if the CSRs are still, you know, going to use that.

398 00:45:03.350 00:45:07.540 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, we’re just not seeing it option, right? This is the issue.

399 00:45:09.000 00:45:14.510 Mustafa Raja: Okay… we still don’t have any good assignments…

400 00:45:15.560 00:45:18.200 Casie Aviles: For the forms, I should be able to take that.

401 00:45:19.670 00:45:21.740 Mustafa Raja: I mean, if you’re going to take forms, I’m…

402 00:45:22.550 00:45:24.459 Mustafa Raja: I’m going to take this with Sam.

403 00:45:29.010 00:45:30.670 Mustafa Raja: Because I need to discuss it.

404 00:45:33.380 00:45:34.020 Casie Aviles: Okay.

405 00:45:35.240 00:45:38.800 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I guess Sam would also be here though, right? Because…

406 00:45:40.850 00:45:45.220 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I’m not sure if he will be developing or, like, working on any.

407 00:45:45.220 00:45:45.610 Mustafa Raja: Specific.

408 00:45:45.610 00:45:46.730 Casie Aviles: thick parts, but…

409 00:45:46.730 00:45:48.220 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, he’ll just be supporting, though.

410 00:45:50.010 00:45:59.950 Mustafa Raja: Okay… validate SQL… I mean, SQL has been pretty valid… End-to-end listening.

411 00:46:02.700 00:46:04.510 Mustafa Raja: What is your response quickness?

412 00:46:06.010 00:46:09.310 Mustafa Raja: this. We could just see this here.

413 00:46:15.830 00:46:22.579 Mustafa Raja: And then… this… And then testing of enriched responses. What do you mean by enriched responses?

414 00:46:23.540 00:46:27.309 Mustafa Raja: Oh, enriched with, oh, by the way…

415 00:46:29.100 00:46:31.129 Mustafa Raja: Oh, by the way, there’s a login.

416 00:46:31.130 00:46:34.550 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I’m not sure where that… what that means, as well.

417 00:46:34.980 00:46:37.669 Casie Aviles: What, what, what its response is.

418 00:46:37.830 00:46:40.720 Casie Aviles: Or do you mean, like… And this response.

419 00:46:40.720 00:46:43.170 Mustafa Raja: I did not… I did not add this.

420 00:46:44.290 00:46:47.350 Mustafa Raja: This… these were added before me, so…

421 00:46:48.140 00:46:50.150 Casie Aviles: I don’t have much context on these.

422 00:46:50.720 00:46:53.079 Mustafa Raja: Some of these I don’t have much context on.

423 00:46:55.550 00:46:58.940 Mustafa Raja: This… this needs to be discussed.

424 00:47:01.340 00:47:03.010 Mustafa Raja: I’m using these strategies…

425 00:47:03.010 00:47:03.530 Casie Aviles: thus far.

426 00:47:03.530 00:47:08.980 Mustafa Raja: refuse… I think we already have… Evans.

427 00:47:10.400 00:47:15.630 Mustafa Raja: With master and landfuse. Hmm… Let me double check.

428 00:47:19.780 00:47:21.590 Mustafa Raja: Okay, get home.

429 00:47:22.350 00:47:24.369 Mustafa Raja: Actually, let’s go to the meeting.

430 00:47:24.980 00:47:26.430 Mustafa Raja: Let’s India.

431 00:47:26.430 00:47:26.820 Casie Aviles: Okay.