Meeting Title: Brainforge Team Catch-up and Introductions Date: 2025-12-17 Meeting participants: Demilade Agboola, Samuel Roberts, Lauren Ford
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1 00:03:15.000 ⇒ 00:03:18.790 Samuel Roberts: A… Sorry about that, I was…
2 00:03:19.030 ⇒ 00:03:25.430 Samuel Roberts: Oh, wow, it got really dark in here. Let me turn on the light, and then my camera on for a few minutes.
3 00:03:29.490 ⇒ 00:03:33.310 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, sorry, I was bouncing from call to call at the end of my day here, and it’s just…
4 00:03:34.150 ⇒ 00:03:34.530 Demilade Agboola: Yeah.
5 00:03:34.750 ⇒ 00:03:39.840 Samuel Roberts: of other calls, and yeah, but I wanted to make sure we did this time.
6 00:03:41.880 ⇒ 00:03:45.049 Demilade Agboola: That’s pretty cool. Like, sounds like you’ve had quite the day.
7 00:03:45.890 ⇒ 00:03:48.439 Samuel Roberts: It’s been… it’s been a busy one, yeah. There’s…
8 00:03:48.660 ⇒ 00:03:55.000 Samuel Roberts: stuff breaking in the ABC, Andy… an 8N instance, and it’s…
9 00:03:55.220 ⇒ 00:04:01.430 Samuel Roberts: We’re trying to figure out what is going on, and from what we’re realizing, we just documented a whole bunch of the errors, and it looks like people aren’t
10 00:04:01.540 ⇒ 00:04:06.619 Samuel Roberts: Keeping the database up to date, so people are seeing wrong information coming through, and…
11 00:04:06.620 ⇒ 00:04:07.769 Demilade Agboola: Oh, yeah.
12 00:04:07.770 ⇒ 00:04:13.720 Samuel Roberts: I was just on with Mustafa talking about that, so I’m just bouncing around, and it’s one of those… yeah.
13 00:04:14.230 ⇒ 00:04:15.240 Demilade Agboola: Ugh.
14 00:04:16.220 ⇒ 00:04:17.120 Samuel Roberts: How are you.
15 00:04:17.310 ⇒ 00:04:23.100 Demilade Agboola: I’m doing pretty good. I did have a bit of a headache earlier today, but, like, right now I’m fine.
16 00:04:23.100 ⇒ 00:04:23.749 Samuel Roberts: You know, I’ve…
17 00:04:24.050 ⇒ 00:04:26.330 Demilade Agboola: I’m never… I’m just… I’m not…
18 00:04:26.390 ⇒ 00:04:31.079 Samuel Roberts: very dehydrated, but I’m like, oh, I’ve just had coffee, and I need water, kind of thing.
19 00:04:31.260 ⇒ 00:04:32.400 Demilade Agboola: I’m on the Red Bull.
20 00:04:33.660 ⇒ 00:04:34.230 Demilade Agboola: Bill.
21 00:04:34.570 ⇒ 00:04:37.260 Demilade Agboola: But, yeah, I’m…
22 00:04:37.860 ⇒ 00:04:45.539 Demilade Agboola: also trying to juggle the fact, like, you know, work, and Christmas is around the corner, and I’m hosting my sister and her family for Christmas, so…
23 00:04:45.540 ⇒ 00:04:46.180 Samuel Roberts: Nice.
24 00:04:46.180 ⇒ 00:04:50.319 Demilade Agboola: So she has… so I have my sister, her husband, and two kids, so…
25 00:04:50.320 ⇒ 00:04:51.130 Samuel Roberts: Oh.
26 00:04:51.130 ⇒ 00:04:53.969 Demilade Agboola: Gonna be a full house for Christmas. I’m excited. Yeah.
27 00:04:53.970 ⇒ 00:04:59.970 Samuel Roberts: That is… yeah, I… I know the feeling, because my… my sister comes to town with her fiance Friday, my…
28 00:05:00.150 ⇒ 00:05:02.430 Samuel Roberts: Parents, I think, comes to town tomorrow.
29 00:05:03.230 ⇒ 00:05:10.130 Samuel Roberts: But then my sister and her fiance are going to her fiance’s family, like, right before Christmas, so they’re just here right before.
30 00:05:11.140 ⇒ 00:05:17.830 Samuel Roberts: The juggling happening there, too, but I’m… I love the holidays, so I’m excited for it, but it is a little bit like…
31 00:05:17.970 ⇒ 00:05:21.930 Samuel Roberts: A lot of things happening work-wise and balancing that, so I feel that too.
32 00:05:21.930 ⇒ 00:05:24.630 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, and also, like, when…
33 00:05:24.930 ⇒ 00:05:33.230 Demilade Agboola: like, when you say you love the holidays, do you, like, do you have any particular, like, Christmas traditions that you really like, or is it just the entire, like, spirit of it all?
34 00:05:33.900 ⇒ 00:05:40.069 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I mean, I like the spirit of it. We have some traditions. I was actually thinking about this last year, because I, so we…
35 00:05:40.720 ⇒ 00:05:58.679 Samuel Roberts: we used to go… I used to go home to my parents in Boston every year, and then we were… my wife and I were in London for 2 years, so they came there, and then since then, my parents have also been going to Florida for the winter, so they drive from Boston to Cleveland, and so we do it here.
36 00:05:58.840 ⇒ 00:06:02.749 Samuel Roberts: So that’s become, like, a new tradition, is doing it at our house, which is kind of cool.
37 00:06:03.090 ⇒ 00:06:06.889 Samuel Roberts: But my mom brought a bunch of ornaments, and…
38 00:06:07.210 ⇒ 00:06:16.049 Samuel Roberts: like, a little penguin mug that I used to use as a kid. Oh, okay. I was… I thought about it, I’m like, oh, this is my Christmas tradition, is using this mug for hot chocolate.
39 00:06:17.860 ⇒ 00:06:21.800 Samuel Roberts: And I just… I looked at it, and I was like, oh yeah, I have missed this.
40 00:06:21.930 ⇒ 00:06:27.920 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, those are things… For me, I mean, I think I just like…
41 00:06:29.420 ⇒ 00:06:45.210 Demilade Agboola: Also, so here’s the thing, like, I’m someone who, on one hand, I’m just like, I mean, it’s… it’s nice, but like, when people ask, like, what are your Christmas plans for the year, I don’t really necessarily make plans, because I have two siblings, both of them are married, have their own families.
42 00:06:45.210 ⇒ 00:06:45.780 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
43 00:06:46.040 ⇒ 00:06:47.930 Demilade Agboola: So,
44 00:06:48.140 ⇒ 00:06:57.650 Demilade Agboola: I don’t really necessarily make any Christmas plans, but people are always like, you can’t just do Christmas alone, so somehow, someway, I end up doing something for Christmas, right? Like.
45 00:06:57.650 ⇒ 00:06:58.090 Samuel Roberts: Right, right.
46 00:06:58.090 ⇒ 00:07:08.069 Demilade Agboola: So this year, it’s hosting my sister and her family. Last year, I spent it with my, cousins that I hadn’t seen in a long, long time.
47 00:07:08.070 ⇒ 00:07:08.600 Samuel Roberts: I am.
48 00:07:08.600 ⇒ 00:07:10.209 Demilade Agboola: In California.
49 00:07:10.460 ⇒ 00:07:15.190 Demilade Agboola: And then… the year before, I spent with my brother and his family in the UK,
50 00:07:15.310 ⇒ 00:07:23.469 Demilade Agboola: And somehow, like, something just keeps happening, like, I’m not making plans, but, like, someone’s just like, oh, you should come around, or, like, you know, we’re coming around, and…
51 00:07:23.470 ⇒ 00:07:24.430 Samuel Roberts: Right, right.
52 00:07:24.430 ⇒ 00:07:32.260 Demilade Agboola: There isn’t necessarily, like, a tradition that I have, but I think, at the end of the day, like, spending with, like, family and loved ones is pretty nice, I’m not gonna lie.
53 00:07:32.260 ⇒ 00:07:33.460 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I agree, I agree.
54 00:07:33.460 ⇒ 00:07:42.549 Demilade Agboola: I called my sister this evening, operating her daughter, she’s 9, just is so excited, she’s just like, I can’t wait to go to his house, like…
55 00:07:43.250 ⇒ 00:07:44.700 Demilade Agboola: I was just like, that’s pretty cool.
56 00:07:44.700 ⇒ 00:07:45.839 Samuel Roberts: That’s so cute, yeah.
57 00:07:47.110 ⇒ 00:08:00.930 Samuel Roberts: 9 years old, wow, yeah, my… so we had a… my wife and I had a son in June, so he’s gonna be 6 months on Christmas. Thank you, yeah. So it’s been a little… a little hectic here as well, but it’s nice that everyone’s coming to us this year.
58 00:08:00.930 ⇒ 00:08:01.640 Demilade Agboola: Yeah.
59 00:08:01.650 ⇒ 00:08:04.160 Samuel Roberts: It would be hard, yeah, it would be hard to go…
60 00:08:04.660 ⇒ 00:08:08.869 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, we’ve done a little bit of traveling with him, which has been not terrible in the car.
61 00:08:09.610 ⇒ 00:08:10.879 Samuel Roberts: We haven’t flown with them yet.
62 00:08:10.880 ⇒ 00:08:13.390 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, I can see that being tricky.
63 00:08:13.580 ⇒ 00:08:16.970 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, well, because he’s good in the car, which is really…
64 00:08:16.970 ⇒ 00:08:17.899 Demilade Agboola: Does he sleep off?
65 00:08:18.260 ⇒ 00:08:24.360 Samuel Roberts: He sleeps pretty well in the car, yeah. But… He has so much… stuff.
66 00:08:24.580 ⇒ 00:08:32.010 Samuel Roberts: And so it’s easy to pack it all in the car, but when we have to go fly, we’re gonna have to actually pack it down, so the car’s been nice, yeah.
67 00:08:32.010 ⇒ 00:08:33.980 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, that’s fair. That’s fair.
68 00:08:34.409 ⇒ 00:08:36.830 Demilade Agboola: I think…
69 00:08:37.390 ⇒ 00:08:44.400 Demilade Agboola: Also, just random, one of my nieces, or my brother’s daughter, her birthday is Christmas, like, she was born on Christmas.
70 00:08:44.400 ⇒ 00:08:45.470 Samuel Roberts: Oh, nowhere.
71 00:08:46.170 ⇒ 00:08:51.530 Demilade Agboola: And I’ve always felt like people who have birthdays on, like, holidays, I feel that’s a bit unfair, you know?
72 00:08:51.530 ⇒ 00:08:53.260 Samuel Roberts: My wife’s is Christmas Eve, so she.
73 00:08:53.260 ⇒ 00:08:53.720 Demilade Agboola: You know.
74 00:08:53.720 ⇒ 00:08:54.990 Samuel Roberts: that, yeah.
75 00:08:55.760 ⇒ 00:08:59.179 Samuel Roberts: But I’m also June, like my son, so it’s, like, totally opposite.
76 00:08:59.180 ⇒ 00:09:11.390 Demilade Agboola: Oh, yeah, because it’s like, you… maybe, for instance, Christmas Eve, like, do you have two parties? Do you do something… because if you say you want to do something the day before Christmas, everyone’s like, I’m kind of preparing for Christmas.
77 00:09:11.390 ⇒ 00:09:11.710 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
78 00:09:11.710 ⇒ 00:09:16.859 Demilade Agboola: I’m traveling first. You’re like, it’s really hard to have a birthday party the day before Christmas.
79 00:09:17.060 ⇒ 00:09:25.149 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, my, my wife’s friend used to do a birthday party early December for her, so it was, like, her fake birthday kind of thing, so everyone was around still.
80 00:09:25.150 ⇒ 00:09:28.950 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, I could see that, I can see that. But yeah,
81 00:09:29.410 ⇒ 00:09:35.900 Demilade Agboola: With, like, my brother and, like, my niece, my, brother’s daughter, I’m, like…
82 00:09:36.340 ⇒ 00:09:44.120 Demilade Agboola: I’m, like, her favorite person outside her parents. Like, she’s… she’s… She’s so, like, really…
83 00:09:44.740 ⇒ 00:09:49.449 Demilade Agboola: She’s really adorable, by the way, but, like, she’s… she now gets, like, really,
84 00:09:49.690 ⇒ 00:10:01.130 Demilade Agboola: when I went to school, like, when I was around earlier this year, and I went to pick her up from school one day with her dad, our teachers were excited to see me, because, like, prior to me coming, she had been talking about how her uncle
85 00:10:01.560 ⇒ 00:10:07.760 Demilade Agboola: Uncle’s gonna come, so, like, she was just really excited. And it’s pretty cool. It’s pretty cool. I think…
86 00:10:07.910 ⇒ 00:10:14.309 Demilade Agboola: There’s something with, especially with, like, my nieces and nephews, that allows me to just…
87 00:10:14.560 ⇒ 00:10:23.180 Demilade Agboola: I guess we mean the way we experience childhood and just, like, take your mind off the adulting responsibilities. It’s just… their lives are so simple, and, like.
88 00:10:23.570 ⇒ 00:10:24.950 Demilade Agboola: really so basic
89 00:10:25.060 ⇒ 00:10:38.400 Demilade Agboola: they’re hungry, they want to play, they just, like… and they just have people they want to play with. That’s it. Like, it’s not really complex, there’s not a lot of thinking or depth to it, and I think that’s just the beauty of it sometimes, you know?
90 00:10:38.540 ⇒ 00:10:56.060 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, that’s… that’s funny, because, like, when we were having the baby and everything, my wife was very excited for a baby, and I was excited for, like, a little kid, because I want… I want that little kid… like, the baby has been great, and he’s getting to a point now when he’s playing with toys, but for… for the first few months, he’s just… he just… he just does nothing, and so…
91 00:10:56.060 ⇒ 00:10:56.680 Demilade Agboola: Yeah.
92 00:10:56.680 ⇒ 00:11:01.730 Samuel Roberts: It’s, I mean, don’t get me wrong, it’s been wonderful, and he’s adorable, but he’s now, like, sitting up and doing the.
93 00:11:01.730 ⇒ 00:11:02.240 Demilade Agboola: Oh, nice.
94 00:11:02.240 ⇒ 00:11:07.089 Samuel Roberts: can interact with him a little bit more, and so I’m liking that. I’m liking that a lot.
95 00:11:07.090 ⇒ 00:11:16.099 Demilade Agboola: see, like, sit up when you walk into the room? Like, I think people say that that’s one of the best things of having a child, is, like, when you walk in the room, they, like, light up when they.
96 00:11:16.100 ⇒ 00:11:18.289 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, like, in the morning, it’s really cute.
97 00:11:19.090 ⇒ 00:11:19.850 Lauren Ford: Hi!
98 00:11:19.850 ⇒ 00:11:24.359 Demilade Agboola: But he can sit up when you put him there, and then he kind of topples over a little while, but…
99 00:11:24.360 ⇒ 00:11:25.429 Samuel Roberts: Hey Lauren, how are you?
100 00:11:26.010 ⇒ 00:11:42.729 Lauren Ford: Hey, I’m good, I’m so sorry, though. For some reason, I had it in my brain that it was 5.30, and I was, like, working with my… my per… my bird, basically, and I was just like, oh, I have another… I have another 2 minutes, and I was like, oh my god, wait, oh no, I’m so sorry. It’s so nice to meet you, though.
101 00:11:42.730 ⇒ 00:11:44.090 Demilade Agboola: Nice to meet you, too.
102 00:11:44.090 ⇒ 00:11:46.079 Lauren Ford: Give a laid? Am I saying that correct?
103 00:11:46.080 ⇒ 00:11:47.839 Demilade Agboola: It’s Demi Ladie, so it’s…
104 00:11:47.840 ⇒ 00:11:48.970 Lauren Ford: Oh, I was totally…
105 00:11:48.970 ⇒ 00:12:02.909 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, well, not really. To be fair. Yeah, to be fair, one of the things I’ve… because it’s not… it’s not English, it’s a… it’s my cultural name from my tribe in Nigeria. The full version is Uluwa Dimladeh. It means God has crowned me.
106 00:12:03.030 ⇒ 00:12:03.560 Demilade Agboola: Oh, wow.
107 00:12:03.560 ⇒ 00:12:04.170 Lauren Ford: Wow.
108 00:12:04.170 ⇒ 00:12:15.589 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, and so I… I’m not… I’m not surprised. Usually when, like, English, like, people, I mean, English speakers, so, like, Americans, British people see my name, they… because of, like, marmalade, they will, you know.
109 00:12:15.790 ⇒ 00:12:16.599 Demilade Agboola: But each semester.
110 00:12:16.600 ⇒ 00:12:17.460 Samuel Roberts: Oh, yeah.
111 00:12:17.460 ⇒ 00:12:19.650 Demilade Agboola: Each syllable is meant to be pronounced, so it’s the amine.
112 00:12:19.770 ⇒ 00:12:21.810 Demilade Agboola: So that’s the… that’s the quick…
113 00:12:22.800 ⇒ 00:12:25.639 Demilade Agboola: The major error that, yeah, that’s the major error people make.
114 00:12:26.440 ⇒ 00:12:32.170 Lauren Ford: Well, so nice to meet you in person, and Sam, so nice to see you again after so many, I don’t know.
115 00:12:32.170 ⇒ 00:12:32.590 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
116 00:12:32.590 ⇒ 00:12:34.229 Lauren Ford: and lifetimes. Yes.
117 00:12:34.230 ⇒ 00:12:38.490 Samuel Roberts: I know, time is crazy for me right now. I don’t know about you, but it’s…
118 00:12:38.490 ⇒ 00:12:57.010 Lauren Ford: Oh, yeah, definitely. I definitely thought that, like, I would join Brainforge, and I was like, oh, I’ll do this on the weeknights and on the weekends. It’ll be easy to do an extra 5-10 hours, and it has just not been. But, you know, do you both have other jobs as well, or do you do this full-time?
119 00:12:57.770 ⇒ 00:13:00.720 Lauren Ford: So I’m full-time with Brainforge. Nice, nice.
120 00:13:00.720 ⇒ 00:13:10.209 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, so I know, like, when Utam reached out to me initially, I had another job, but she was like, you know, if possible, he would like to have me full-time.
121 00:13:10.210 ⇒ 00:13:10.940 Lauren Ford: Yeah.
122 00:13:11.110 ⇒ 00:13:11.970 Demilade Agboola: What time can be quiet.
123 00:13:11.970 ⇒ 00:13:12.390 Lauren Ford: Awesome.
124 00:13:12.390 ⇒ 00:13:14.260 Demilade Agboola: Persistent.
125 00:13:14.260 ⇒ 00:13:15.280 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
126 00:13:16.110 ⇒ 00:13:18.189 Lauren Ford: Yeah, I’m actually thinking of that, yeah.
127 00:13:18.590 ⇒ 00:13:21.690 Lauren Ford: Oh, amazing! Yeah, I might be joining full-time.
128 00:13:21.690 ⇒ 00:13:23.719 Samuel Roberts: Right into the… right into the holidays, basically.
129 00:13:27.270 ⇒ 00:13:30.810 Lauren Ford: You were just out for a little while, though, right, Sam? Did you do something fun?
130 00:13:31.270 ⇒ 00:13:32.929 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, so my,
131 00:13:33.160 ⇒ 00:13:37.729 Samuel Roberts: my wife took the week after Thanksgiving off, so she’s a nurse, and she works nights Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
132 00:13:37.730 ⇒ 00:13:38.259 Lauren Ford: So she just…
133 00:13:38.520 ⇒ 00:13:44.140 Samuel Roberts: So, we went… Thursday of Thanksgiving, we drove to her family in Indiana.
134 00:13:44.250 ⇒ 00:13:46.070 Samuel Roberts: And then,
135 00:13:46.370 ⇒ 00:14:02.350 Samuel Roberts: we were supposed to be there all weekend, and then drive to my parents’ estate… come back to Cleveland, where we live, and then the next day go to Boston, but then there were two big winter storms coming through, and so everything got shuffled around, but we still did Indiana and Boston, and it was a… it was a good, like, week and a half.
136 00:14:02.350 ⇒ 00:14:03.540 Lauren Ford: Oh, that’s awesome.
137 00:14:03.540 ⇒ 00:14:06.249 Demilade Agboola: But it was a busy one. We did a lot of driving.
138 00:14:07.360 ⇒ 00:14:09.099 Lauren Ford: How’s your little one in the car?
139 00:14:09.260 ⇒ 00:14:10.640 Samuel Roberts: He’s very good in the car.
140 00:14:10.890 ⇒ 00:14:11.910 Lauren Ford: Good!
141 00:14:11.910 ⇒ 00:14:16.940 Samuel Roberts: It’s amazing, yeah, I… I mean, he’s… he’s a relatively chill baby, he’s not…
142 00:14:16.940 ⇒ 00:14:17.410 Lauren Ford: No.
143 00:14:17.410 ⇒ 00:14:21.580 Samuel Roberts: super fussy, and if he is, it’s, you know, one of a handful of things. He’s not…
144 00:14:21.770 ⇒ 00:14:33.369 Samuel Roberts: hard to figure out most of the time. But in the car, he just, you know, you put him in the seat, and he’s like, oh, what are we doing, what are we doing? And as soon as he starts moving, he’s either quiet or asleep.
145 00:14:33.370 ⇒ 00:14:34.380 Lauren Ford: Aww.
146 00:14:34.380 ⇒ 00:14:45.079 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, it’s… and it’s great, because my wife and I, we do lots of road trips and stuff, so we were hoping that that’s how it was going to go, but… and I figured earlier we start, the better, but you never know, it could always go another way.
147 00:14:45.080 ⇒ 00:14:46.020 Lauren Ford: Yeah.
148 00:14:46.590 ⇒ 00:14:47.550 Lauren Ford: That’s awesome.
149 00:14:47.550 ⇒ 00:14:49.949 Demilade Agboola: That’s pretty cool. That’s pretty cool.
150 00:14:50.300 ⇒ 00:14:52.530 Samuel Roberts: It’s been good, it’s been good. He’s been around a bit in the…
151 00:14:52.530 ⇒ 00:14:54.710 Demilade Agboola: For 6 months already, so…
152 00:14:54.710 ⇒ 00:14:56.730 Lauren Ford: Yeah, how old is he now?
153 00:14:56.960 ⇒ 00:14:58.509 Samuel Roberts: He’s gonna be 6 months on Christmas.
154 00:14:58.510 ⇒ 00:15:01.219 Lauren Ford: Oh, wow! Wow!
155 00:15:01.370 ⇒ 00:15:02.580 Lauren Ford: That’s wild.
156 00:15:02.580 ⇒ 00:15:14.650 Demilade Agboola: Because the thing about it is, like, because, like, I don’t have kids, but my siblings do, and sometimes I talk to my sister or my brother, and, like, how does it feel? Because my brother’s first child is 10, my sister’s first child is 9.
157 00:15:15.530 ⇒ 00:15:30.660 Demilade Agboola: And how does it feel having kids that old? And it’s just like, where does the time go to? Like, that’s what they never seem to, like, figure out. Because one minute, you had this toddler, or, like, you had this child, first of all, who couldn’t even toddler, and the next thing you had, like, a toddler, and next thing you’re, like.
158 00:15:30.660 ⇒ 00:15:42.830 Demilade Agboola: this is a full-grown 10-year-old telling you, oh, I don’t want this, I want that, or, like, they are beginning to come, like, more conscious of things. Oh, I don’t like this color, or I don’t want this, or I, you know…
159 00:15:42.970 ⇒ 00:15:46.400 Demilade Agboola: There’s… the personalities beginning to form, like.
160 00:15:46.400 ⇒ 00:15:46.950 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
161 00:15:46.950 ⇒ 00:15:55.640 Demilade Agboola: and be expressed, because sometimes, like, the personalities are there, but, like, they don’t express it until, like, they get older. It’s quite fascinating, to be honest.
162 00:15:55.640 ⇒ 00:15:56.260 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
163 00:15:56.830 ⇒ 00:16:05.850 Lauren Ford: Yeah, I’m always blown away when I haven’t seen friends for a while, and they have kids, and then I see their kids, and I’m like, oh, it really has been a long time, hasn’t it?
164 00:16:06.760 ⇒ 00:16:12.290 Samuel Roberts: Every… everyone… everyone said when we were having a kid, like, oh, you know, treasure it, it goes by so quick, and…
165 00:16:12.440 ⇒ 00:16:21.860 Samuel Roberts: I was like, yeah, I get it, you know, he grows up fat, I get, you know, it’s gonna change a lot, but it really, like, I don’t know where the time went the last 6 months. Like, it feels like it was just the year.
166 00:16:22.310 ⇒ 00:16:28.870 Samuel Roberts: And it’s interesting, because, like, days are long, weeks are short, months are shorter. It’s like a really weird…
167 00:16:29.130 ⇒ 00:16:29.810 Demilade Agboola: Yeah.
168 00:16:30.000 ⇒ 00:16:34.039 Samuel Roberts: When you’re sleep-deprived and everything else, like, you just lose track of it all, so…
169 00:16:34.040 ⇒ 00:16:39.019 Lauren Ford: Oh, man. Did your wife take a break from work, or is she still doing the nights?
170 00:16:39.360 ⇒ 00:16:41.080 Samuel Roberts: She’s back tonight now, she did 3 months off.
171 00:16:41.310 ⇒ 00:16:42.600 Lauren Ford: Wow.
172 00:16:42.600 ⇒ 00:16:49.100 Samuel Roberts: And then, yeah, she likes the nights, and we’re making it work as best as we can right now, so it’s…
173 00:16:49.100 ⇒ 00:16:49.860 Lauren Ford: Yeah.
174 00:16:49.860 ⇒ 00:16:50.720 Samuel Roberts: I’m on…
175 00:16:50.720 ⇒ 00:16:51.450 Lauren Ford: You know.
176 00:16:51.450 ⇒ 00:16:56.410 Samuel Roberts: full-time baby duties, pretty much starting in a little while, because she’s getting ready for work now, but… Oh, okay.
177 00:16:56.410 ⇒ 00:16:56.890 Lauren Ford: Oh.
178 00:16:57.180 ⇒ 00:16:59.900 Samuel Roberts: Two nights, it’s just us, so… yeah.
179 00:16:59.900 ⇒ 00:17:03.379 Demilade Agboola: I think… would you say it’s helpful that, like, you work remotely?
180 00:17:04.190 ⇒ 00:17:05.060 Samuel Roberts: Definitely.
181 00:17:05.069 ⇒ 00:17:06.639 Demilade Agboola: Definitely.
182 00:17:07.210 ⇒ 00:17:18.750 Samuel Roberts: you know, even just, like, during the day, like, she’s… she has to sleep. We had… we had a decent amount of help. The first 3 months, we had, her mom was here for a month, my mom was here, they alternated, because we don’t have family in town, we’re both.
183 00:17:19.460 ⇒ 00:17:23.780 Samuel Roberts: Cleveland. So her mom came, my mom came, and that was…
184 00:17:24.339 ⇒ 00:17:29.440 Samuel Roberts: Huge, because 3 people is game-changing, because then someone can sleep.
185 00:17:29.630 ⇒ 00:17:35.710 Samuel Roberts: Someone can, you know, be taking care of the baby, someone can be showering, someone can be… it’s wildly different, one extra person.
186 00:17:35.710 ⇒ 00:17:36.699 Demilade Agboola: Yeah.
187 00:17:36.700 ⇒ 00:17:43.780 Samuel Roberts: And so the last couple weeks, right before I went away, was kind of the first week that it was just the three of us, and so it got a little…
188 00:17:44.060 ⇒ 00:17:57.279 Samuel Roberts: hard to manage. But the fact that I’m home and, you know, I can be at least down… like, I’m actually on the first floor right now, my office is upstairs, but at least I’m here, I can see him playing in the thing and make sure that there’s eyes on him while she’s getting ready, kind of thing.
189 00:17:57.280 ⇒ 00:17:58.160 Demilade Agboola: Okay.
190 00:17:58.160 ⇒ 00:18:03.139 Samuel Roberts: But yeah, if I was… if I was out of the house all day, I don’t… you know, we’d… daycare would have started already, you know?
191 00:18:03.420 ⇒ 00:18:03.880 Lauren Ford: That’s true.
192 00:18:04.120 ⇒ 00:18:05.009 Demilade Agboola: That’s a hassle.
193 00:18:05.010 ⇒ 00:18:06.140 Samuel Roberts: A little bit longer, so…
194 00:18:06.400 ⇒ 00:18:07.130 Demilade Agboola: Fair.
195 00:18:07.140 ⇒ 00:18:08.220 Lauren Ford: Wow.
196 00:18:08.540 ⇒ 00:18:13.920 Lauren Ford: That’s awesome. What hours do you work, then, Sam? Do you work overnight, too, or…
197 00:18:13.920 ⇒ 00:18:19.489 Samuel Roberts: No, no, I’m… I’m… so I… basically, yeah, this is when I… I would have stopped probably at 5, you know, Eastern,
198 00:18:19.490 ⇒ 00:18:20.759 Lauren Ford: Got it, got it, okay.
199 00:18:20.900 ⇒ 00:18:22.159 Samuel Roberts: I wanted to do this.
200 00:18:22.160 ⇒ 00:18:22.860 Lauren Ford: Yeah.
201 00:18:22.860 ⇒ 00:18:24.309 Samuel Roberts: He’s… and now he’s…
202 00:18:24.470 ⇒ 00:18:32.459 Samuel Roberts: a little more, I was saying, he’s starting to play with toys and stuff, so he doesn’t need to be, like, held the whole time. He’s a little… not self-sufficient, but…
203 00:18:32.460 ⇒ 00:18:34.480 Demilade Agboola: He’s in his little…
204 00:18:34.480 ⇒ 00:18:36.479 Samuel Roberts: Stand-up thing, playing with some music toys now, and…
205 00:18:36.480 ⇒ 00:18:37.410 Lauren Ford: Aww!
206 00:18:37.410 ⇒ 00:18:40.390 Samuel Roberts: He’s not screaming yet, but he’s… he’s looking over here. I should grab him, let me grab him.
207 00:18:40.390 ⇒ 00:18:41.950 Lauren Ford: Yeah, grab him!
208 00:18:41.950 ⇒ 00:18:44.420 Samuel Roberts: I don’t think anyone has seen him yet, actually.
209 00:18:44.450 ⇒ 00:18:46.070 Lauren Ford: Oh, I wanna see him!
210 00:18:46.310 ⇒ 00:18:47.509 Samuel Roberts: I don’t know, yeah.
211 00:18:48.090 ⇒ 00:18:57.540 Lauren Ford: You might end up seeing my bird, because in my hurry to get in here, I didn’t have time to put him away, and so he’s, like, free… free roaming.
212 00:18:57.540 ⇒ 00:18:58.960 Samuel Roberts: A little weird about this… actually, let me…
213 00:18:58.960 ⇒ 00:18:59.860 Lauren Ford: Aww!