Meeting Title: DE-AE-AI Standup Date: 2025-11-20 Meeting participants: Samuel Roberts, Gabriel Lam, Mustafa Raja, Awaish Kumar, Rico Rejoso, Uttam Kumaran


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1 00:00:31.660 00:00:32.560 Gabriel Lam: Morning.

2 00:00:34.310 00:00:35.729 Samuel Roberts: Hey, how’s it going?

3 00:00:35.940 00:00:37.940 Gabriel Lam: I’m doing good. How are you?

4 00:00:38.490 00:00:39.260 Samuel Roberts: making edits.

5 00:00:39.260 00:00:44.499 Gabriel Lam: to the prompt, and I think it’s looking a lot better, but the timeout issue, I hope.

6 00:00:44.660 00:00:46.970 Gabriel Lam: We’re able to fix today.

7 00:00:46.970 00:00:52.469 Samuel Roberts: Okay, yeah, I was wondering, like, because I saw that there was,

8 00:00:52.650 00:00:56.750 Samuel Roberts: Some news from… was that support that gave that news that Casey posted?

9 00:00:57.110 00:00:58.720 Gabriel Lam: I… I think so.

10 00:00:58.720 00:01:00.859 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, so it might be a little,

11 00:01:01.670 00:01:07.289 Samuel Roberts: I don’t know, more of a lift to do that, but we can… I mean, if we’re gonna move it anyway, I think we might just have to move it.

12 00:01:09.240 00:01:16.980 Samuel Roberts: into Mastra. Like, if any then… I mean, not that… well, here’s the other side of it. They were… they’re right about a few of the… they’re right about a few of those things where it’s…

13 00:01:17.840 00:01:25.990 Samuel Roberts: you know, different multi-agents and all this other stuff, like, that might… but the timeout issue, I think we can get around a few other ways.

14 00:01:26.500 00:01:27.120 Gabriel Lam: Yeah.

15 00:01:27.260 00:01:30.009 Gabriel Lam: It’s just whether we think the…

16 00:01:31.070 00:01:36.440 Gabriel Lam: Like, fixes, like, temporary fixes to the timeout issue are worth the lift.

17 00:01:37.020 00:01:41.240 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, exactly. I don’t know…

18 00:01:41.530 00:01:45.689 Samuel Roberts: If we’re gonna have to… if we’re gonna be, you know, Moving it anyway soon.

19 00:01:47.170 00:01:53.459 Samuel Roberts: Is it… like, is it worth it to re… re-architect that whole, whole flow?

20 00:01:55.850 00:01:57.679 Gabriel Lam: Yeah, I think… I think we can…

21 00:01:58.710 00:02:03.489 Gabriel Lam: check with the rest of the team. I am curious, though, what that process would look like if we were to…

22 00:02:03.850 00:02:05.530 Gabriel Lam: Bring it into Mastra.

23 00:02:06.140 00:02:07.839 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I mean, I think it’s…

24 00:02:08.050 00:02:14.409 Samuel Roberts: It’s definitely worth doing, it’s just the question is, like, what is the order of operations here, you know?

25 00:02:14.920 00:02:17.979 Samuel Roberts: Because that one is…

26 00:02:18.090 00:02:30.380 Samuel Roberts: is, in itself, not a crazy flow, but it’s the client hubs, and if we just have to redo how we access those client hubs from N8N, but then that might still have a timeout issue, so it might mean…

27 00:02:30.920 00:02:31.640 Gabriel Lam: Let me see.

28 00:02:31.820 00:02:32.480 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.

29 00:02:33.400 00:02:41.879 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I believe in just accessing the client hubs, we can do this via webhook, and we can have those tools, no?

30 00:02:41.880 00:02:45.870 Samuel Roberts: And those shouldn’t… those, like… that’s not where the timeout issue’s happening, though?

31 00:02:47.250 00:02:50.339 Samuel Roberts: Or that’s not where, like, the long process is happening, I should say.

32 00:02:50.340 00:02:55.509 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, those would take the most time, but if we were to, you know.

33 00:02:55.650 00:02:59.420 Mustafa Raja: Transfer… transfer to master week…

34 00:02:59.650 00:03:03.900 Mustafa Raja: We could just have… have it solved there, no?

35 00:03:06.320 00:03:09.140 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, but we have to move the client hubs too, right?

36 00:03:09.380 00:03:10.780 Samuel Roberts: If… if we’re moving… if…

37 00:03:10.780 00:03:20.169 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, client hubs, client hubs don’t, don’t take up all of the 30 seconds, but they would do, like, what’s, what’s… about 15 to 20 seconds.

38 00:03:20.370 00:03:25.319 Samuel Roberts: Oh, okay, I thought… I didn’t know where that number was. Okay, that’s not terrible, then.

39 00:03:26.250 00:03:30.540 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, 15 to, 15 to 20 seconds per… per client hub call.

40 00:03:31.540 00:03:32.330 Samuel Roberts: Okay.

41 00:03:33.210 00:03:36.989 Samuel Roberts: That’s… that’s not crazy, then, to worry about.

42 00:03:37.960 00:03:41.190 Mustafa Raja: So then it might be worth moving the rest of that flow.

43 00:03:45.520 00:03:46.029 Samuel Roberts: We can finish.

44 00:03:46.030 00:03:47.730 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so if,

45 00:03:48.480 00:03:56.230 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. We could send… we could send one… one response per client hub call, right? So the…

46 00:03:56.230 00:03:57.370 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.

47 00:03:57.520 00:03:59.339 Mustafa Raja: Connection stays up.

48 00:04:01.350 00:04:04.429 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I mean, once we… if we’ve moved the…

49 00:04:04.740 00:04:11.540 Samuel Roberts: rest of that logic into Master. We can keep that connection up on Heroku’s side, it’s just whether or not Eneden gets back

50 00:04:11.750 00:04:15.250 Samuel Roberts: Fast enough, but as long as we keep it open, it’s probably not a problem, actually.

51 00:04:16.060 00:04:16.860 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

52 00:04:17.260 00:04:18.990 Samuel Roberts: And we can just keep a heartbeat going.

53 00:04:20.029 00:04:20.659 Mustafa Raja: Hmm.

54 00:04:26.080 00:04:27.290 Samuel Roberts: Hello, everyone.

55 00:04:29.180 00:04:29.969 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, good morning.

56 00:04:31.090 00:04:31.420 Awaish Kumar: I’m.

57 00:04:31.420 00:04:32.180 Samuel Roberts: How are you?

58 00:04:32.180 00:04:33.050 Uttam Kumaran: Good.

59 00:04:33.430 00:04:39.749 Uttam Kumaran: Does someone mind pinging Ashwini? I don’t know if, Rico, if he ended up getting added here.

60 00:04:40.450 00:04:41.350 Samuel Roberts: Oh.

61 00:04:46.080 00:04:47.860 Uttam Kumaran: You can just ping in engineering, maybe?

62 00:04:48.180 00:04:49.980 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I see him on the event, but…

63 00:04:49.980 00:04:51.100 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay, okay.

64 00:04:51.100 00:04:54.520 Samuel Roberts: But I didn’t respond either, so I don’t know what that means, you know, sometimes these ones go.

65 00:04:54.770 00:04:57.179 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, do you mind sending a ping in one of the channels?

66 00:04:57.370 00:04:58.160 Samuel Roberts: Sure.

67 00:04:58.160 00:04:58.990 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great.

68 00:04:59.730 00:05:00.290 Samuel Roberts: Mmm…

69 00:05:01.860 00:05:07.690 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, maybe we can start talking, Maybe about,

70 00:05:08.500 00:05:11.580 Uttam Kumaran: Hydra Awish. So, yeah, I should.

71 00:05:11.580 00:05:12.040 Awaish Kumar: shipped a couple.

72 00:05:12.040 00:05:17.639 Uttam Kumaran: things yesterday, I finished up DIM users.

73 00:05:17.780 00:05:20.049 Uttam Kumaran: Made a bunch of changes.

74 00:05:20.210 00:05:26.819 Uttam Kumaran: There’s, like, one or two fields that are still a bit… Messy, but overall, that’s good.

75 00:05:26.990 00:05:31.380 Uttam Kumaran: They did send some feedback on the…

76 00:05:31.870 00:05:39.489 Uttam Kumaran: Stripe models, that you ship, so, yeah, that’s… that’s in there, so you can take a look at that.

77 00:05:41.300 00:05:46.920 Awaish Kumar: Okay, I was reading last few messages, it is… they were about Teams user.

78 00:05:47.130 00:05:49.650 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, there’s a… there’s one…

79 00:05:50.400 00:06:01.539 Uttam Kumaran: there’s a… there’s a thread after you sent your message, where I showed her where to get the table, and then she was like, oh, some numbers are negative, and so, yeah, maybe you can QA and take a look at that.

80 00:06:02.410 00:06:03.090 Awaish Kumar: Okay.

81 00:06:04.610 00:06:13.120 Uttam Kumaran: And then for, for Eden, I know…

82 00:06:13.400 00:06:20.830 Uttam Kumaran: Henry, we had a discussion yesterday, Henry left some tickets. Awish, I think I would like to see which ones we can hand over to Ashwini.

83 00:06:22.530 00:06:23.050 Awaish Kumar: Okay.

84 00:06:23.050 00:06:30.439 Uttam Kumaran: So, like, for example, like, following up on the polyatomic connector, there’s some small model changes… I would love for him to take that.

85 00:06:30.590 00:06:38.839 Uttam Kumaran: I didn’t… we gave… I think Henry gave him a lot of the business contacts yesterday, but he may end up with questions about

86 00:06:39.590 00:06:46.419 Uttam Kumaran: the repo and things like that, but maybe what we can do is assign a few tickets and send it to him. I can…

87 00:06:47.630 00:06:58.399 Uttam Kumaran: I can look through to that and see. But yeah, I would like to just… if you can assign a couple tickets, and then you can send it to him. I… I told him also to handle taking a look at Metaplane for Eden.

88 00:07:00.030 00:07:00.940 Awaish Kumar: Okay.

89 00:07:01.960 00:07:12.469 Awaish Kumar: I have, like, 2-3 tickets, which is Doran and Henry wanted to finish this week, so I can maybe work on one or two, or assign him one.

90 00:07:13.310 00:07:14.499 Awaish Kumar: Yeah. Between us.

91 00:07:14.500 00:07:22.539 Uttam Kumaran: Up to you, depends on the complexity. If it’s something urgent, then I would just handle it, but if you can hand it to him, then that would be great.

92 00:07:23.280 00:07:23.840 Awaish Kumar: Okay.

93 00:07:26.460 00:07:29.040 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so that’s those two,

94 00:07:29.570 00:07:38.639 Uttam Kumaran: Anything, on default yesterday, Mustafa? I’m speaking to Caitlin today, so I can walk her through… maybe you can join, I can… I’m gonna walk her through the…

95 00:07:39.010 00:07:42.540 Uttam Kumaran: To vendor checks, but anything else?

96 00:07:43.290 00:07:50.399 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, there wasn’t anything else, for default. Just, read me.

97 00:07:50.600 00:07:51.440 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

98 00:07:53.680 00:08:00.540 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. And then for README, yeah, I think you met with Robert, right? So I don’t have any more comments there.

99 00:08:01.580 00:08:10.699 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it, Robert adjusted the funnel, and, it did come out to be that there were 31 subscriptions.

100 00:08:11.070 00:08:12.320 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, great, okay, okay, okay.

101 00:08:12.320 00:08:13.540 Mustafa Raja: in amplitude.

102 00:08:13.770 00:08:14.590 Uttam Kumaran: Perfect.

103 00:08:15.020 00:08:19.840 Uttam Kumaran: Nice. Okay. And then did he take a look at the other thing, also?

104 00:08:19.840 00:08:21.820 Mustafa Raja: The dashboard, yeah.

105 00:08:22.190 00:08:29.940 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, he liked it, he also had a version of it already made in one of the dashboards that he worked on.

106 00:08:29.940 00:08:30.540 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

107 00:08:30.540 00:08:31.290 Mustafa Raja: See ya.

108 00:08:32.500 00:08:33.759 Mustafa Raja: Okay, alright, good.

109 00:08:34.230 00:08:34.840 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

110 00:08:34.980 00:08:41.350 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. So nothing there. Honey Singer, is there any other, like, data ingestion to do, Sam?

111 00:08:42.520 00:08:47.210 Samuel Roberts: I saw that there was a ticket that I got emailed about about TikTok…

112 00:08:47.770 00:08:54.349 Samuel Roberts: shop, which I hadn’t… I got the Walmart stuff, that was also on this ticket, but I don’t know of anything TikTok-related.

113 00:08:54.540 00:08:56.000 Uttam Kumaran: Who sent them?

114 00:08:56.090 00:08:58.070 Samuel Roberts: There was just an issue that was on linear.

115 00:08:58.530 00:08:59.429 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, man, just email me.

116 00:08:59.430 00:09:01.009 Samuel Roberts: this morning, so I don’t know if that was…

117 00:09:01.460 00:09:05.990 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, that we don’t have to prioritize for now. Okay. Yeah, I just wasn’t…

118 00:09:05.990 00:09:07.730 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll ask him about it, but as long as…

119 00:09:07.730 00:09:16.269 Samuel Roberts: all the Walmart data that you found is in there, that’s a good place to… Yeah, that’s everything I had. It didn’t look like a ton going back, but it’s something at least.

120 00:09:17.410 00:09:17.750 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

121 00:09:17.750 00:09:22.020 Samuel Roberts: And then I broke it out, there was, like, the shop level, and then each,

122 00:09:22.310 00:09:29.169 Samuel Roberts: each shelf item, basically, and some of them didn’t have any data, so I didn’t include those, but everything that had data, I exported it and got into Mother Duck.

123 00:09:29.480 00:09:30.719 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, great.

124 00:09:32.460 00:09:37.010 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. Okay, and then…

125 00:09:37.580 00:09:47.410 Uttam Kumaran: For Urban Stems, yeah, I wish I didn’t get a chance to do anything yesterday. I’m gonna see… try my best, to make some changes to the full refresh job.

126 00:09:47.530 00:09:52.079 Uttam Kumaran: But, are you working on anything for them this end of the week?

127 00:09:52.910 00:09:59.640 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I haven’t also haven’t looked at the snapshots thing, so I will… work on that.

128 00:09:59.640 00:10:01.790 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, yeah, if you can do that, that would be great.

129 00:10:05.820 00:10:08.259 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool, and then maybe we can talk about…

130 00:10:08.500 00:10:12.110 Uttam Kumaran: CTA, so I think, Sam, the only couple things is, like, getting…

131 00:10:12.260 00:10:32.030 Uttam Kumaran: it’s like walking through Snowflake initialization, dbt initialization. I kind of… as I mentioned, I kind of want… I would like you to walk through, because you can make, like, a little… you can improve, like, a runbook, but also, I know it’s like… I don’t… it’s not like a fresh start thing, like, I can give you the scaffolding.

132 00:10:32.530 00:10:35.609 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, okay, cool. I’m definitely, like, happy to, like.

133 00:10:35.890 00:10:41.730 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, no, I wanna give… I wanna… I’m gonna… what I was gonna try to do is at least, like, write a first version.

134 00:10:41.930 00:10:44.200 Uttam Kumaran: Of a runbook for each?

135 00:10:44.220 00:10:50.319 Samuel Roberts: Okay. Or maybe, yeah, I was gonna write a first version, and then have you go through, and then…

136 00:10:50.320 00:10:51.639 Uttam Kumaran: Make sure that it’s…

137 00:10:52.050 00:10:58.670 Uttam Kumaran: accurate, because I do a lot from muscle memory, so I’m just gonna try to write it down.

138 00:10:58.670 00:11:09.339 Samuel Roberts: But that’s a good way, yeah, like, I think we did that with, like, the… some of the README stuff for the platform and stuff, like, when Gabe was setting it up and everything, so I think it’s nice to get something and then have someone actually try it out who doesn’t really, you know…

139 00:11:09.340 00:11:13.020 Uttam Kumaran: Mustasa, did you end up making it anywhere with the Honey Stinger stuff, or not yet?

140 00:11:14.520 00:11:16.810 Mustafa Raja: Not, not yet.

141 00:11:16.810 00:11:17.180 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

142 00:11:17.180 00:11:33.400 Mustafa Raja: I have the… for today, I don’t have, much tasks, so, I will be mostly working on AI team stuff, internal stuff, and then Honey Stinger, so, I might have some progress, there today.

143 00:11:33.700 00:11:39.609 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, great. Yeah, so I’ll… let me go take… I’ll take a stab at a first version of,

144 00:11:40.070 00:11:46.910 Uttam Kumaran: dbt and Snowflake initialization. Okay. Do you mind, Sam, just checking that you can log in to Snowflake?

145 00:11:48.130 00:11:48.879 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, what is… is it?

146 00:11:48.880 00:11:50.630 Uttam Kumaran: You should have access to two things via Oxa.

147 00:11:50.630 00:11:51.320 Samuel Roberts: Okay.

148 00:11:52.120 00:11:55.109 Samuel Roberts: Okta… okay, let me… it was just reloading Octa.

149 00:11:55.110 00:12:00.570 Uttam Kumaran: And then also, like, I think if… also, I was gonna ask about, if you ended up starting the diagram at all.

150 00:12:00.570 00:12:15.859 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I have a little bit of something, it’s pretty basic, but I just try to include, like, some of the top things that I figured were important for, like, customers and a couple things for sales. As far as I understood it, based on, like, our conversations and the, spreadsheet.

151 00:12:15.860 00:12:18.900 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, it’s just… You wanna send that to me?

152 00:12:19.030 00:12:23.390 Uttam Kumaran: on Slack, and then I can leave some comments, and I can get a version to…

153 00:12:24.680 00:12:27.909 Uttam Kumaran: Catherine, or I can just leave some notes, and yeah.

154 00:12:28.800 00:12:34.559 Samuel Roberts: Totally, yeah. Again, it’s… it’s… I’m like, I was just… I felt a little, like, one, Fig Jam is not my… my muscle memory is not.

155 00:12:34.560 00:12:39.710 Uttam Kumaran: No, that’s fine, but the other thing is I wanted… I… did you end up looking at any of the other examples?

156 00:12:40.120 00:12:41.380 Samuel Roberts: Yes,

157 00:12:41.780 00:12:46.830 Samuel Roberts: part… part of it was… yeah, I… I mean, this one doesn’t… we don’t have a ton yet beyond just, like, ETL into Snowflake.

158 00:12:46.830 00:12:49.400 Uttam Kumaran: Yes, it’s just gonna be the left side, really.

159 00:12:49.400 00:12:59.019 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, but one thing I noticed was even trying to pull some of those things from the diagram kit, or, like, the images, were…

160 00:13:00.430 00:13:10.479 Samuel Roberts: I guess I… yeah, the, like, the Eden example doesn’t quite match the diagram kit stuff, partially because I think the diagram kit is in Figma, which doesn’t copy into FigJam super well, so, like…

161 00:13:10.480 00:13:18.120 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I usually just copy the icons, and then I rebuild, like, a version, but this is where also, like, I want to give feedback to Hannah.

162 00:13:18.260 00:13:24.349 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, well, yeah, she and I had a call, she watched me kind of struggle my way through FigJam a little bit and saw some things, so…

163 00:13:24.350 00:13:24.740 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay.

164 00:13:24.740 00:13:25.350 Samuel Roberts: pretty good.

165 00:13:25.770 00:13:28.599 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, send me what you have, dude, and I’ll leave comments, and I’ll show you the…

166 00:13:28.600 00:13:29.520 Samuel Roberts: Okay, cool.

167 00:13:29.520 00:13:30.110 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

168 00:13:30.700 00:13:33.089 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, be gentle, but it’s, yeah.

169 00:13:33.090 00:13:34.180 Uttam Kumaran: No, don’t worry.

170 00:13:34.540 00:13:35.240 Samuel Roberts: Alright.

171 00:13:37.880 00:13:42.590 Samuel Roberts: some comments where I was confused about a few things as well, so… Cool.

172 00:13:42.590 00:13:44.629 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great.

173 00:13:47.840 00:13:49.779 Uttam Kumaran: Alright, what else am I,

174 00:13:50.980 00:13:53.409 Uttam Kumaran: What else am I missing? .

175 00:13:53.410 00:13:53.940 Samuel Roberts: Mom.

176 00:13:53.940 00:13:58.160 Uttam Kumaran: Default, Eden… oh, anything for, ABC?

177 00:14:01.610 00:14:07.479 Mustafa Raja: Amber, me and Casey had a working session on triages yesterday.

178 00:14:07.800 00:14:13.590 Mustafa Raja: Yeah… I don’t have much context other than that.

179 00:14:15.460 00:14:20.159 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I know that we need to build a plan for transfer.

180 00:14:20.410 00:14:24.580 Mustafa Raja: Maybe Casey can plan that?

181 00:14:24.960 00:14:27.279 Mustafa Raja: Plan a working session around that.

182 00:14:29.180 00:14:30.170 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

183 00:14:31.320 00:14:31.960 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

184 00:14:33.830 00:14:40.369 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think it’s definitely worth putting some thought into getting that into code, and then how we get that onto their infra as well, right?

185 00:14:40.370 00:14:41.050 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

186 00:14:44.210 00:14:47.870 Samuel Roberts: So, that might be worth, yeah, a nice working session. I probably would want to…

187 00:14:48.060 00:14:50.289 Samuel Roberts: Be in on that, too, to give some thoughts, but…

188 00:14:50.290 00:14:51.810 Mustafa Raja: Oh yeah, that’s nice.

189 00:14:52.150 00:14:53.420 Samuel Roberts: Okay.

190 00:14:53.870 00:14:56.440 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, let me, let me coordinate.

191 00:14:56.850 00:14:58.810 Samuel Roberts: Is Casey here today?

192 00:14:58.940 00:15:03.269 Mustafa Raja: You see, he’s off, offline, I don’t know if…

193 00:15:03.520 00:15:06.450 Mustafa Raja: He is out of office. Okay.

194 00:15:07.200 00:15:08.620 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I can message him.

195 00:15:09.160 00:15:12.640 Samuel Roberts: Okay, that’s fine, I just wasn’t sure, I hadn’t seen him yet this morning, so I wasn’t sure.

196 00:15:12.640 00:15:13.320 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

197 00:15:13.560 00:15:14.330 Mustafa Raja: Yup.

198 00:15:18.460 00:15:26.259 Samuel Roberts: But yeah, if we can get together, the three of us, we can put a… put our heads together for… sort of a plan for… for that. Yeah. I think that makes a lot of sense for Andy.

199 00:15:26.260 00:15:29.879 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and I mean, if you find the time, I’ll join, so…

200 00:15:30.320 00:15:30.950 Samuel Roberts: Okay.

201 00:15:31.350 00:15:32.120 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

202 00:15:34.520 00:15:36.030 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

203 00:15:37.710 00:15:38.610 Uttam Kumaran: Cool.

204 00:15:39.150 00:15:45.229 Uttam Kumaran: I… Yeah, I guess I… I don’t… yeah, if Ashwini is not joining, then I…

205 00:15:46.020 00:15:49.290 Uttam Kumaran: Probably have less to say right now. Okay.

206 00:15:49.900 00:15:55.849 Uttam Kumaran: But… Let’s talk about internal stuff.

207 00:15:57.380 00:16:06.149 Uttam Kumaran: So I know… yeah, I guess maybe, Gabe, I can hand it to you if there’s anything internally. I know you have probably a bit more of Mustafa’s time the rest at the end of the week.

208 00:16:06.380 00:16:10.390 Uttam Kumaran: But I know we didn’t do sort of a formal…

209 00:16:10.600 00:16:13.190 Uttam Kumaran: A big formal sprint this week, so…

210 00:16:22.590 00:16:24.239 Uttam Kumaran: Gabby there?

211 00:16:24.240 00:16:26.810 Gabriel Lam: Sorry, I didn’t realize I was muted.

212 00:16:27.410 00:16:29.210 Gabriel Lam: I was just talking into nothing, I’m sorry.

213 00:16:29.210 00:16:29.590 Uttam Kumaran: Correct.

214 00:16:29.590 00:16:35.579 Gabriel Lam: Yeah, so we are trying to… there’s two things to…

215 00:16:35.840 00:16:41.700 Gabriel Lam: main things that we’re trying to do. First, to update the linear ticket generation from each video.

216 00:16:42.150 00:16:47.529 Gabriel Lam: To match, basically, the prompt that… your custom prompt that you’re doing right now.

217 00:16:47.850 00:16:59.260 Gabriel Lam: I think we’ve got to a good level, I just need to confirm with the team, and I think we need to do extra testing to see how much context, additionally, it’s getting.

218 00:17:00.000 00:17:02.200 Gabriel Lam: The other side of this…

219 00:17:03.200 00:17:06.100 Gabriel Lam: Maybe this week, or including next week, would be…

220 00:17:06.380 00:17:12.159 Gabriel Lam: bringing things from N8N into Mastra, because we’re running into timeout issues, persistence issues.

221 00:17:12.660 00:17:19.639 Gabriel Lam: And streaming issues, Casey had brought up, like, a nata and support, dialogue.

222 00:17:20.420 00:17:25.529 Uttam Kumaran: So I think I’d like to have a work session, maybe a short one with the team, just to sort of hash out.

223 00:17:26.460 00:17:27.359 Gabriel Lam: how…

224 00:17:27.470 00:17:34.859 Gabriel Lam: how much we should lift into Monstra this week, or if at all, and then there’s a few client hub things that are also causing the timeout.

225 00:17:35.050 00:17:44.040 Gabriel Lam: So… Yeah, the last thing that we were going to do is the summaries from each video.

226 00:17:44.320 00:17:44.750 Samuel Roberts: Yes.

227 00:17:44.750 00:17:46.000 Gabriel Lam: That we upload are…

228 00:17:46.720 00:18:03.089 Gabriel Lam: like, they don’t give enough detail or have the right information. So that’s something we’re gonna try to add. We’re also trying… we’re also discussing whether to do that and edit it now, and then move to Maestra later, or whether it’s better to do a bigger lift and do it all in Maestra in one go.

229 00:18:03.260 00:18:10.799 Gabriel Lam: The goal for that is to turn the case study… not the case study, the stand-up assistant into a sort of source of truth, where

230 00:18:11.280 00:18:17.109 Gabriel Lam: the… there’s a live summary on the stand-up assistant of Aldi that gets updated with every new meeting.

231 00:18:17.540 00:18:22.420 Gabriel Lam: So hopefully that will… Clear up a lot of the…

232 00:18:22.550 00:18:30.770 Gabriel Lam: the touchpoints and a lot of the, pain points that people are feeling, especially with, like, using the stand-up assistant on a regular basis for PMs.

233 00:18:31.080 00:18:31.430 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

234 00:18:32.550 00:18:35.390 Gabriel Lam: Yeah, so that’s where we’re at. We…

235 00:18:35.830 00:18:44.399 Gabriel Lam: started on this, timeout streaming issue, but I’m not sure how far Casey was able to get yesterday, so I will try to ping him and see what updates there are there.

236 00:18:44.910 00:18:45.570 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

237 00:18:47.360 00:19:02.289 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I like the idea of the, fixing the summaries, we started talking about… I started just talking a little bit, but it got me thinking more about rethinking the way the client helps kind of operate a little bit, which I think could lend itself to a more improved stand-up assistant, where

238 00:19:02.350 00:19:09.749 Samuel Roberts: Like, action items are automatically pulled from meetings into, like, a summary or something, so that there’s a, kind of.

239 00:19:10.010 00:19:18.579 Samuel Roberts: and I think Gabe kind of got to this, the current status of the client is kind of a thing we can deduce from, like, most recent meetings.

240 00:19:19.120 00:19:37.430 Samuel Roberts: Rather than it being kind of an ad hoc thing you have to run every time if you want to see that meeting. So, like, if you go to a meeting, in addition to, like, the… a more improved summary, it might also have, like, what were the action items, what were the blockers that were mentioned in the meeting kind of thing. And have that stored and persisted, and that might make the stand-up assistant easier to…

241 00:19:37.890 00:19:44.540 Samuel Roberts: Parse that data on a more consistent basis, rather than doing it, like, from the transcripts every time.

242 00:19:45.820 00:19:48.059 Samuel Roberts: That’s a lot of context each time for that.

243 00:19:48.430 00:19:49.090 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

244 00:19:50.050 00:19:58.410 Samuel Roberts: But that’s a… you know… this is just, like… because, like, if you go to the client homes right now, it’s just, like, a list of meetings in the chatbot, and my thought was, like, why not have…

245 00:19:58.410 00:20:11.649 Samuel Roberts: a little more information there based on the past few meetings, but we need to then, like, synthesize those meetings, store that, and that’s a few other things that I think would make those a little more useful, and then feed that into a sample assistant or any other tool that would

246 00:20:11.930 00:20:17.789 Samuel Roberts: want to know the current status of a client, basically, from at least what I can understand from the meetings in Slack.

247 00:20:18.530 00:20:19.190 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

248 00:20:20.620 00:20:27.760 Samuel Roberts: But that’s kind of me just thinking of, like, how to move this in the future. Like, I think we have some good ideas for the next few days, and maybe next sprint.

249 00:20:27.860 00:20:29.060 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay.

250 00:20:33.170 00:20:33.730 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.

251 00:20:36.990 00:20:37.660 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

252 00:20:38.210 00:20:42.620 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. Yeah, I will have probably some time tomorrow.

253 00:20:44.470 00:20:46.810 Uttam Kumaran: To talk through internal stuff.

254 00:20:47.090 00:20:56.399 Uttam Kumaran: Or to test, and then, yeah, I’m gonna… basically, we have, like, 4 or 5 different client meetings today that I’m just closing out, and then sort of the week is…

255 00:20:56.750 00:20:59.500 Uttam Kumaran: Behind us, so…

256 00:21:00.030 00:21:05.390 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. And then, yeah, we have, I guess to kind of give context for everyone, we have…

257 00:21:06.430 00:21:11.300 Uttam Kumaran: We got, like, verbal approval from Element, so…

258 00:21:11.670 00:21:18.770 Uttam Kumaran: that will start on December 1st. So we can talk probably in month… in…

259 00:21:19.150 00:21:24.580 Uttam Kumaran: Monday’s meeting, a little bit about assignments, but I’ll try to send something over today on…

260 00:21:24.900 00:21:28.000 Uttam Kumaran: On, like, you know, assignments,

261 00:21:28.190 00:21:36.520 Uttam Kumaran: I think additionally, I know for folks in the States, it’s, like, Thanksgiving and Christmas coming up, so I will…

262 00:21:37.010 00:21:42.899 Uttam Kumaran: I will be sending out a little bit of, like, a holiday schedule, today,

263 00:21:43.270 00:21:52.029 Uttam Kumaran: But for folks out of the States, like, I don’t really… it’s not like you can… you’re totally down to work if there… if there is stuff to do, so there’s no,

264 00:21:52.740 00:21:55.389 Uttam Kumaran: I would say there’s no pressure, but,

265 00:21:55.960 00:21:58.879 Uttam Kumaran: Our… the client… most of the clients will be off.

266 00:21:59.230 00:22:04.400 Uttam Kumaran: The end of… at least the back half of next week, and then… That, like, Christmas week.

267 00:22:04.570 00:22:13.049 Uttam Kumaran: But of course, there’s internal AI work. There also is client work still, so I don’t think any client would be opposed. Every… all of us.

268 00:22:13.050 00:22:14.030 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.

269 00:22:14.030 00:22:30.029 Uttam Kumaran: My clients are, like, all really hard-working people, so I think they would be okay, but I also want to make sure that if you guys want to, you can take time. So, I’ll send a schedule over. I think the biggest thing is, Awash, I’ll probably have you come with me to,

270 00:22:30.500 00:22:31.580 Uttam Kumaran: element.

271 00:22:31.980 00:22:40.779 Uttam Kumaran: And then I want to see how much I can hand off of Eden’s stuff to Ashwini, and then me, you can handle

272 00:22:40.940 00:22:43.620 Uttam Kumaran: element…

273 00:22:44.210 00:22:56.299 Uttam Kumaran: And then, I think also, Sam, I think probably by next week, we can see, kind of get a sense of the roadmap for CTA, and then if we need to loop anybody in, I can also loop in…

274 00:22:56.510 00:23:00.839 Uttam Kumaran: Probably, Ashwini there as well.

275 00:23:01.040 00:23:01.850 Uttam Kumaran: Huh.

276 00:23:02.190 00:23:08.910 Uttam Kumaran: So, yeah, I feel… I feel kind of good about coverage, and…

277 00:23:09.800 00:23:15.519 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I guess any other, like… Thoughts or concerns or ideas?

278 00:23:18.860 00:23:19.530 Awaish Kumar: Nope.

279 00:23:23.460 00:23:27.629 Samuel Roberts: Particularly. I mean, I haven’t met Ashwini yet, but what is exactly, like…

280 00:23:28.000 00:23:34.709 Uttam Kumaran: Oh yeah, he’s filling in on data, like, analytics engineering and data engineering, so…

281 00:23:34.710 00:23:35.340 Samuel Roberts: Cool, cool.

282 00:23:35.340 00:23:42.890 Uttam Kumaran: Totally someone that you sh… like, one thing that I’m trying to promote more of is phone a friend.

283 00:23:43.010 00:23:44.050 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

284 00:23:44.580 00:23:46.430 Uttam Kumaran: you know, I think…

285 00:23:46.560 00:24:02.450 Uttam Kumaran: if you end up stuck on anything, there’s a host of people now that can do reviews from a business lens, from a data lens, and so what I’m gonna try to do more of, and you guys can also let me know, like, how I can facilitate this, because I know it’s not often…

286 00:24:02.800 00:24:09.530 Uttam Kumaran: It’s not often the first… it’s like, we don’t… I don’t think we have a great culture of… like…

287 00:24:09.650 00:24:22.249 Uttam Kumaran: I think… I think each individual team does, like, client team, and I know AI team is a lot closer, but don’t have, like, I don’t think a huge culture of, like, phone a friend, so however I can help facilitate that, let me know.

288 00:24:24.960 00:24:31.009 Uttam Kumaran: But that’s what I would suggest if you’re stuck, there’s a host of people. I mean, I wanted to push forward the donuts thing.

289 00:24:31.300 00:24:36.399 Uttam Kumaran: I just didn’t, I didn’t get around to pushing that, so…

290 00:24:39.430 00:24:47.959 Gabriel Lam: Or maybe even something like office hours, where, you know, you have, like, a set time where you’re like, oh, maybe someone will ping me and prepare for that. I don’t know, just a…

291 00:24:48.580 00:24:53.940 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, I’ve done that in the past. I’ve found that, like, it’s usually the usual suspects that join.

292 00:24:53.940 00:24:54.320 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.

293 00:24:54.320 00:24:54.920 Gabriel Lam: I see.

294 00:24:54.920 00:25:00.019 Uttam Kumaran: Which is fine, like, I mean, but it’s usually… it’s usually, like, me, Mustafa, Casey.

295 00:25:00.460 00:25:06.579 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, it’s always later for me, and I’m like, I see the message or something, and I’m like, oh man. Yeah.

296 00:25:06.580 00:25:06.975 Uttam Kumaran: So…

297 00:25:07.530 00:25:08.250 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.

298 00:25:11.610 00:25:17.269 Samuel Roberts: I mean, this is an interesting, like, remote issue in general, I feel like. How do you, how do you, like…

299 00:25:17.570 00:25:19.140 Samuel Roberts: bring some of that. I think the.

300 00:25:19.140 00:25:19.630 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

301 00:25:19.630 00:25:20.730 Samuel Roberts: It’s nice for certain parts of.

302 00:25:20.730 00:25:21.859 Uttam Kumaran: It was, like…

303 00:25:21.860 00:25:26.009 Samuel Roberts: Okay, start doing the donuts thing and have people meet each week.

304 00:25:26.320 00:25:29.789 Uttam Kumaran: So that you kind of get to know people on, like, a personal level.

305 00:25:29.790 00:25:30.170 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.

306 00:25:30.170 00:25:37.119 Uttam Kumaran: And it kind of helps to, like, ask more feedback and questions, so maybe I’ll just, like, re-up that and make sure that folks are doing that.

307 00:25:37.590 00:25:43.480 Uttam Kumaran: But yeah, like, this is gonna be the next phase of our company, is like,

308 00:25:44.180 00:25:51.050 Uttam Kumaran: A lot of people know as much as I do now, and so I want to make sure that everybody is able to talk to each other and get feedback.

309 00:25:51.420 00:25:56.940 Uttam Kumaran: Also, I want everybody to be able to give feedback, like, on a Gantt chart or on an analysis, and so…

310 00:25:57.280 00:25:59.360 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, I wonder if it’s, like.

311 00:26:00.590 00:26:06.930 Uttam Kumaran: like, I mean, the other thing is we can do, like, open review sessions, where people come with work to review.

312 00:26:08.410 00:26:13.250 Uttam Kumaran: It’s just… it’s just tough. It’s tough to, like, have tons of standing meetings, you know?

313 00:26:13.500 00:26:14.640 Samuel Roberts: 100%.

314 00:26:15.200 00:26:25.579 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, this is… I mean, this is very similar to, like, what I was trying to tackle when I was working at Moot. This is the, like, the remote nature is nice for a lot of things, but it misses a lot of that, like, in-office serendipity that.

315 00:26:25.580 00:26:26.010 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

316 00:26:26.010 00:26:30.080 Samuel Roberts: to, like, knock on someone’s door and be like, hey, can you take a look? So I don’t know…

317 00:26:30.650 00:26:31.560 Samuel Roberts: I mean…

318 00:26:32.180 00:26:43.890 Samuel Roberts: one thought I have without another tool is, like, using Slack statuses a little bit more, and be like, hey, you know, I’m in deep work, I’m not in deep work, I’m, you know, open to questions, or something. Something where it’s just, like, a little more inviting, I don’t know.

319 00:26:43.890 00:26:44.880 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

320 00:26:44.880 00:26:57.280 Samuel Roberts: I don’t know how that, like… again, it’s definitely a culture thing, too, where people gotta get comfortable with it, and I think the donut thing will help that kind of long-term, but in the short term, it’s just, like, maybe I’ll be like… maybe I’ll try doing that myself as well. It’s just like, if anyone.

321 00:26:57.280 00:27:04.139 Uttam Kumaran: Well, maybe I’ll start… I’ll also start a thread, and maybe the only thing I would ask for this crew is to respond in the thread.

322 00:27:04.140 00:27:04.620 Samuel Roberts: Totally.

323 00:27:04.620 00:27:11.789 Uttam Kumaran: One of the things that’s also tough for me, and you guys know I don’t… I’m not as concerned about talking into the ether, I tend to do that.

324 00:27:11.790 00:27:13.199 Samuel Roberts: All day.

325 00:27:13.200 00:27:20.920 Uttam Kumaran: But I would love if, like, if I send a note in the Brainforge team channel about this topic, if you guys can respond with… with ideas.

326 00:27:21.050 00:27:27.019 Uttam Kumaran: I think it’ll encourage other folks to do so, yeah, and

327 00:27:27.580 00:27:34.500 Uttam Kumaran: I think that’s kind of the… what’s on my mind as we kind of go into this next phase. And of course, we’re… we’re…

328 00:27:34.650 00:27:43.850 Uttam Kumaran: We’re thinking about getting more support on, like, the business side, so we’re thinking about… I think this is something probably by next…

329 00:27:44.150 00:27:48.629 Awaish Kumar: whenever our next team meeting is, Robert and I should have something rounded out.

330 00:27:49.780 00:27:57.649 Uttam Kumaran: It’s… you would be surprised on how little time we spent thinking about, like, the company strategy, but we’re starting to get more time.

331 00:27:57.760 00:28:03.640 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. We probably spend, like, 3-4 hours a week. We shouldn’t be spending probably that every day, but…

332 00:28:03.640 00:28:04.140 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, it’s hard.

333 00:28:04.140 00:28:08.090 Uttam Kumaran: We’re thinking about investing in a couple different areas.

334 00:28:08.270 00:28:18.420 Uttam Kumaran: On the sort of delivery leadership side, on the, operations side, on the sales side,

335 00:28:19.280 00:28:35.090 Uttam Kumaran: And, like, basically kind of building, like, a little bit of an operations team that is more 70-30, like, business client. I know everybody in the com- everybody on the team now, in some way, has kind of contributed to the internal company.

336 00:28:35.230 00:28:53.649 Uttam Kumaran: But we want to make it more… we want to kind of, one, make sure that everybody can be focused on clients, and then there is still some, like, company building, but we also want to have those people directly go into effect. Everybody here’s, like, day-to-day, right? Like, operations in particular, so…

337 00:28:54.200 00:28:58.109 Uttam Kumaran: That’s something that we’re, like, basically investing in.

338 00:28:58.110 00:28:58.640 Samuel Roberts: Good.

339 00:28:59.230 00:29:04.920 Uttam Kumaran: as fast as I can go meet people, so you guys know I’m interviewing, like, every day for people.

340 00:29:04.960 00:29:11.379 Samuel Roberts: So, but we have a very high bar. You guys have set the bar very high, so not a lot of people make it.

341 00:29:11.380 00:29:13.409 Uttam Kumaran: So…

342 00:29:13.790 00:29:21.870 Uttam Kumaran: we’re… we’re doing our best, yeah. But again, if you also have suggestions, I think the other thing I’ll bump is we put together this feedback form.

343 00:29:21.990 00:29:33.430 Uttam Kumaran: I would love if everybody takes a chance, and I’ll just send… I’ll bump it again in the team channel, but if you have a… if you have a quick minute today to take this, that would be great.

344 00:29:38.480 00:29:41.579 Uttam Kumaran: Let me just send this again.

345 00:29:54.630 00:29:57.500 Uttam Kumaran: And yeah, of course, you guys had my, like.

346 00:29:58.270 00:30:01.069 Uttam Kumaran: number and stuff, so call me if anything. But,

347 00:30:01.230 00:30:13.640 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, let me start a thread, and if, yeah, if I can get your guys’ thoughts while your brain is fresh on ways we can improve, then that’d be great. I mean, like, really, the last 3 weeks, we’ve had all this, like, sales stuff going on, so I’m…

348 00:30:13.760 00:30:20.100 Uttam Kumaran: I’m a lot more, I’m a lot more,

349 00:30:21.150 00:30:25.049 Uttam Kumaran: interested in. A lot of those are closing out, and we’re…

350 00:30:25.290 00:30:27.960 Uttam Kumaran: We’re in, like, pure execution mode, so…

351 00:30:28.660 00:30:31.899 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, I’m just glad to be able to,

352 00:30:32.500 00:30:37.139 Uttam Kumaran: And the kind of, like, sales season really strong, and then, like, now we… now it’s more about, like.

353 00:30:37.260 00:30:40.790 Uttam Kumaran: Resource allocation and making sure everybody here is supported, so…

354 00:30:40.790 00:30:41.170 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.

355 00:30:41.170 00:30:45.370 Uttam Kumaran: I know it’s, like, really busy and still chaotic, but let me know if I can be helpful.

356 00:30:46.180 00:30:46.750 Samuel Roberts: Cool.

357 00:30:47.210 00:30:47.710 Samuel Roberts: Sounds good.

358 00:30:47.710 00:30:49.270 Awaish Kumar: Okay.

359 00:30:49.270 00:30:52.579 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Alright. Thank you guys, appreciate it.

360 00:30:52.580 00:30:53.420 Samuel Roberts: Alrighty.

361 00:30:53.830 00:30:55.200 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, talk to you soon.

362 00:30:55.520 00:30:57.070 Samuel Roberts: Alrighty, bye. Bye.

363 00:30:57.200 00:30:58.060 Samuel Roberts: Yale.