Meeting Title: Brainforge x ELT Weekly Sync Date: 2025-09-19 Meeting participants: Robert Tseng, Amber Lin, Awaish Kumar, Henry Zhao, Demilade Agboola
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1 00:00:37.420 ⇒ 00:00:38.590 Amber Lin: Hello.
2 00:00:41.320 ⇒ 00:00:41.880 Robert Tseng: Hello.
3 00:00:46.830 ⇒ 00:00:53.609 Amber Lin: Well, I think we can get started on the discussion, and then if we have time left over, I’ll…
4 00:00:54.040 ⇒ 00:00:56.809 Amber Lin: Do a quick overview of our tickets.
5 00:00:57.190 ⇒ 00:01:01.789 Amber Lin: But let’s get started. Robert, do you want to open the conversation?
6 00:01:04.620 ⇒ 00:01:13.579 Robert Tseng: Sorry, are we just gonna… do you have an… do you have a retro piece to this? Can you run that first? Kind of like… sorry, I’m, like, wrapping up some messages to the insomnia, but…
7 00:01:13.580 ⇒ 00:01:19.869 Amber Lin: Oh, okay. Well, I need the other folks to do the retro, so…
8 00:01:19.870 ⇒ 00:01:21.070 Robert Tseng: Okay. Let me wait.
9 00:01:21.070 ⇒ 00:01:21.750 Amber Lin: fit.
10 00:01:21.990 ⇒ 00:01:24.979 Robert Tseng: Yeah, just give me, like, a minute, I’m just waiting for a message to Shrey.
11 00:01:25.350 ⇒ 00:01:26.040 Amber Lin: Okay.
12 00:01:39.770 ⇒ 00:01:48.520 Amber Lin: I wish we’re… For these, we said that they’re due today, are they… Going to be done today?
13 00:01:48.810 ⇒ 00:01:50.949 Robert Tseng: 871 is already done, right?
14 00:01:50.950 ⇒ 00:01:51.700 Amber Lin: Okay.
15 00:01:52.770 ⇒ 00:01:53.780 Amber Lin: And then…
16 00:01:53.780 ⇒ 00:02:02.210 Awaish Kumar: I mentioned yesterday, Metaplane will be done today as well, so… 746 May…
17 00:02:03.040 ⇒ 00:02:05.110 Awaish Kumar: I… I might have to push.
18 00:02:06.440 ⇒ 00:02:07.850 Amber Lin: Okay.
19 00:02:08.699 ⇒ 00:02:14.970 Amber Lin: Is this reviewed by anyone yet?
20 00:02:15.560 ⇒ 00:02:20.010 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I think… I think the majority already reviewed it. Okay.
21 00:02:22.430 ⇒ 00:02:24.490 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I smudged it with something.
22 00:02:24.490 ⇒ 00:02:26.360 Amber Lin: Okay, sounds good.
23 00:02:26.760 ⇒ 00:02:37.019 Amber Lin: And I want to see… did you… oh, I mean, you reviewed these PRs. Did someone emerge these?
24 00:02:37.020 ⇒ 00:02:39.849 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, yeah. I reviewed them and approved them, I…
25 00:02:39.990 ⇒ 00:02:43.690 Awaish Kumar: He just gave them learning also go ahead, yesterday.
26 00:02:43.690 ⇒ 00:02:44.970 Amber Lin: Yeah, I remember…
27 00:02:44.970 ⇒ 00:02:49.259 Awaish Kumar: I want him to merge it, because he… you were working on some tests?
28 00:02:49.300 ⇒ 00:02:50.639 Amber Lin: Yeah. You know what it is, right?
29 00:02:50.740 ⇒ 00:02:56.580 Amber Lin: So, I just mentioned to him, if you are done, you can merge it. Okay, I’ll check.
30 00:02:57.000 ⇒ 00:03:04.220 Amber Lin: Okay, he has these 3 things left. They’re 3 hours, I think we can do that today.
31 00:03:04.750 ⇒ 00:03:11.999 Amber Lin: And then Henry told me he didn’t have time yesterday, so he might have to put in some hours on the weekend.
32 00:03:12.210 ⇒ 00:03:17.770 Amber Lin: I don’t know how he is going to finish these.
33 00:03:35.640 ⇒ 00:03:36.790 Amber Lin: Wow.
34 00:03:55.870 ⇒ 00:03:57.280 Amber Lin: Alright…
35 00:04:20.370 ⇒ 00:04:23.719 Robert Tseng: Okay, I have… you have my attention now.
36 00:04:27.030 ⇒ 00:04:30.989 Robert Tseng: what… Are we gonna do here?
37 00:04:31.360 ⇒ 00:04:36.429 Robert Tseng: I just messaged Henry for him to also join this. Henry’s on a train, he’s not gonna join.
38 00:04:36.550 ⇒ 00:04:37.680 Amber Lin: Oh, okay.
39 00:04:37.680 ⇒ 00:04:38.210 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
40 00:04:38.210 ⇒ 00:04:39.200 Amber Lin: or mind.
41 00:04:39.200 ⇒ 00:04:43.890 Robert Tseng: Yeah, he may join later, but yeah. I’m talking to ELT in probably, like, 2 hours, so I just
42 00:04:44.220 ⇒ 00:04:48.950 Robert Tseng: give them a 15-minute update, so that’s kind of what I’m hoping to take away from this call.
43 00:04:48.950 ⇒ 00:04:49.610 Amber Lin: Okay.
44 00:04:49.760 ⇒ 00:04:50.600 Amber Lin: I see.
45 00:04:51.090 ⇒ 00:04:58.139 Amber Lin: And… do you want the overall update, or just talk about tagging and tracking?
46 00:04:58.620 ⇒ 00:05:08.019 Robert Tseng: No, I think overall, I want to let them know, like, what we did, what we’re blocked by, and what decision they need to make. Those are really just the main three things that I want to be able to just tell them.
47 00:05:08.320 ⇒ 00:05:10.330 Amber Lin: So far.
48 00:05:10.390 ⇒ 00:05:18.259 Amber Lin: We have the tagging and tracking work, which Andrew and Zoran have been working on. There’s the customer I.O. work.
49 00:05:18.260 ⇒ 00:05:30.400 Amber Lin: Other than that, the other chunk… actually, let me share this document with you, where we’re writing the updates. The other chunk of work is the dashboards that come up requested by
50 00:05:30.740 ⇒ 00:05:32.640 Amber Lin: Different people.
51 00:05:33.700 ⇒ 00:05:36.959 Amber Lin: And… let’s share screen here.
52 00:05:39.210 ⇒ 00:05:46.039 Amber Lin: So we’re still riding here. Tagging tracking, affiliates.
53 00:05:46.370 ⇒ 00:05:56.729 Amber Lin: And then dashboards. Customer aisle is essentially wrapped up, so there’s not that much there. Everything there is, more, like, finishing up.
54 00:05:57.090 ⇒ 00:06:03.630 Amber Lin: And then… Let’s see…
55 00:06:04.300 ⇒ 00:06:05.820 Robert Tseng: What do you think they’re gonna ask for?
56 00:06:06.530 ⇒ 00:06:07.780 Amber Lin: for…
57 00:06:09.010 ⇒ 00:06:12.190 Robert Tseng: Yeah, if you were ELT, what would you be asking about?
58 00:06:16.050 ⇒ 00:06:30.919 Amber Lin: Let’s take… so, for affiliates, they want to… Cutter emphasizes as well, they want to be able to track all these sources and have things, have all the sources mapped out.
59 00:06:31.460 ⇒ 00:06:38.969 Amber Lin: This has actually been a request for a while, and we’ve been able to add some sources, but…
60 00:06:39.500 ⇒ 00:06:41.760 Amber Lin: We haven’t… I don’t think…
61 00:06:42.640 ⇒ 00:06:46.580 Henry Zhao: I don’t think they’re mapped out that clearly yet.
62 00:06:47.190 ⇒ 00:06:51.879 Amber Lin: And then, on the attacking and tracking side, I think, what, Zora…
63 00:06:51.880 ⇒ 00:06:53.999 Robert Tseng: Meaning, we don’t, we don’t know, like.
64 00:06:54.210 ⇒ 00:07:02.689 Robert Tseng: what does that mean? We don’t have affiliates spend mapped to products? Or, like, what is he specifically asking for?
65 00:07:03.070 ⇒ 00:07:13.560 Amber Lin: He wants all sources. Currently, we have the offer, which has been their main request. Now we are working to add all the different sources.
66 00:07:13.750 ⇒ 00:07:17.960 Amber Lin: And that is… the visibility into tag and tracking is very important.
67 00:07:18.090 ⇒ 00:07:20.160 Henry Zhao: Yeah, we just want to break it down by all the sources.
68 00:07:23.410 ⇒ 00:07:23.999 Robert Tseng: No one does R.
69 00:07:24.000 ⇒ 00:07:27.610 Awaish Kumar: But isn’t that already done by Demonade?
70 00:07:30.430 ⇒ 00:07:34.250 Awaish Kumar: I see in linear, like, it’s kind of in review, and
71 00:07:34.580 ⇒ 00:07:42.020 Awaish Kumar: I just approved it, like, two days ago, I think. We can just… So, 860 is…
72 00:07:45.810 ⇒ 00:07:46.950 Awaish Kumar: Okay, then…
73 00:07:53.010 ⇒ 00:07:56.590 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, like, Demolade, like, if you can give an update.
74 00:07:58.480 ⇒ 00:07:59.749 Demilade Agboola: What particular are we looking for?
75 00:08:00.830 ⇒ 00:08:04.510 Amber Lin: Including the visit… into affiliate.
76 00:08:04.510 ⇒ 00:08:09.389 Awaish Kumar: to have all the spends. Right now, we only have the offer.
77 00:08:10.590 ⇒ 00:08:13.730 Demilade Agboola: Oh, okay, so that’s for… is that for the snapshots?
78 00:08:14.080 ⇒ 00:08:14.750 Amber Lin: Yes.
79 00:08:15.550 ⇒ 00:08:22.510 Demilade Agboola: Okay, I believe I have done it. Give me one second, let me look, see if I can quickly find the PR for it.
80 00:08:26.820 ⇒ 00:08:34.049 Amber Lin: I think we have… well, we did it for the spends that they requested. The ticket we pushed to next cycle.
81 00:08:34.909 ⇒ 00:08:40.799 Demilade Agboola: Oh, yes. Yeah. I think, really, we didn’t get into this cycle, that was, that was the delay.
82 00:08:41.130 ⇒ 00:08:41.669 Amber Lin: Yeah.
83 00:08:42.080 ⇒ 00:08:51.470 Amber Lin: henry, can you give an update on Zoran’s side, on… on that side, and… our work there.
84 00:08:52.130 ⇒ 00:08:59.229 Henry Zhao: Yeah, no updates since yesterday, but by end of day, I’ll just finish the rollout plan, just have something in writing for that.
85 00:09:07.370 ⇒ 00:09:12.370 Henry Zhao: Yeah, basically, I think you’re talking to Stuart now about, like, doing an actual test.
86 00:09:12.910 ⇒ 00:09:26.169 Amber Lin: Okay, so overall, if we were present… if we were to present to the ELT, what would we say that, is their priorities, and what have we delivered based on those priorities?
87 00:09:26.570 ⇒ 00:09:31.100 Henry Zhao: We delivered a prototype of the server-side tracking and edge layer tracking.
88 00:09:31.430 ⇒ 00:09:34.409 Henry Zhao: And it’s ready for, like, a live test.
89 00:09:36.770 ⇒ 00:09:37.640 Amber Lin: Okay.
90 00:09:37.640 ⇒ 00:09:39.089 Henry Zhao: Yeah, I think that’s pretty big still, yeah.
91 00:09:39.400 ⇒ 00:09:39.980 Amber Lin: Yeah.
92 00:09:44.840 ⇒ 00:09:54.080 Robert Tseng: I’m marking things up with blue, because I’m putting on the ELT hat, and I’m asking questions. Like, I’m gonna read these things, and be like.
93 00:09:54.530 ⇒ 00:10:13.310 Robert Tseng: what is this? Why does this matter? What are we, like, what’s, like, the next step? That’s what they’re… that’s basically what I need to be able to communicate to them in 15 minutes. Like, I understand we send out these, like, ticket updates, and that’s, like, fine for visibility, but, I think I need to have a more leveraged conversation with them. So I think, that’s…
94 00:10:14.030 ⇒ 00:10:24.370 Robert Tseng: Yeah, if we could just kind of be very clear about… about details. Like, I’m less in the loop now, so I think this is helpful for me to know what I need to do to take that call.
95 00:10:25.870 ⇒ 00:10:31.449 Henry Zhao: I would say timeline is, like, full implementation of the edge layer and server side is, like, another week and a half, probably.
96 00:10:31.660 ⇒ 00:10:37.149 Henry Zhao: And then 3 weeks for, like, stitching and just, like, putting it into attribution.
97 00:10:41.130 ⇒ 00:10:48.009 Amber Lin: What would be the impact of having that server-side or edge layer of the stuff that we’re working on? Why are we…
98 00:10:48.010 ⇒ 00:10:48.760 Henry Zhao: Yeah, a lot.
99 00:10:48.760 ⇒ 00:10:49.909 Amber Lin: Do we want to do it?
100 00:10:49.910 ⇒ 00:10:56.230 Henry Zhao: Yeah, so it would be a lot better UCM tracking, so a lot less Correct. ECM sources?
101 00:10:56.630 ⇒ 00:11:00.470 Henry Zhao: And an ability to understand the user journey better.
102 00:11:02.510 ⇒ 00:11:05.439 Henry Zhao: And, like, get a better understanding of what accurate first touch is.
103 00:11:06.370 ⇒ 00:11:08.139 Amber Lin: Instead of what we have now.
104 00:11:16.360 ⇒ 00:11:17.170 Amber Lin: Okay.
105 00:11:17.600 ⇒ 00:11:22.189 Amber Lin: And then, on the affiliates,
106 00:11:33.610 ⇒ 00:11:36.079 Amber Lin: I think the product mapping from…
107 00:11:55.150 ⇒ 00:12:00.020 Amber Lin: Can you guys all fill in this update?
108 00:12:00.940 ⇒ 00:12:02.300 Amber Lin: And…
109 00:12:02.490 ⇒ 00:12:09.320 Amber Lin: I think we’ll have questions, and then we can answer them right here. It’s a little hard when we don’t have things on paper to look at.
110 00:12:17.440 ⇒ 00:12:19.200 Demilade Agboola: Can you share the link to this?
111 00:12:19.200 ⇒ 00:12:19.580 Henry Zhao: No.
112 00:12:19.580 ⇒ 00:12:22.260 Amber Lin: Yeah, it’s in the… it’s in the channel.
113 00:12:22.590 ⇒ 00:12:23.300 Demilade Agboola: Okay.
114 00:12:23.300 ⇒ 00:12:24.850 Amber Lin: I copied that again.
115 00:12:25.480 ⇒ 00:12:27.219 Amber Lin: I’ll send it in the chat.
116 00:12:28.210 ⇒ 00:12:34.050 Henry Zhao: Yeah, I can’t fill in my stuff right now, but I can in an hour. I’m on my way to the airport. Okay.
117 00:12:38.300 ⇒ 00:12:54.119 Robert Tseng: Okay, yeah, so this, to me, this is, like, fair, like, this is what we need, like, kind of every week. I have a 15-minute check-in with them just to let them know, like, the why. Like, it’s… it’s different from your sprints. It’s… it’s more…
118 00:12:54.250 ⇒ 00:13:00.749 Robert Tseng: what did we do? Why did we do it? What’s the next step? Like, I think I need the ability to say that to them.
119 00:13:00.870 ⇒ 00:13:11.730 Robert Tseng: And then, are there any decisions that we’re waiting on them from that we need them to make? So, I’m gonna bring up Remo again, I’m gonna bring up… so…
120 00:13:11.950 ⇒ 00:13:12.970 Robert Tseng: I’ll have to.
121 00:13:23.250 ⇒ 00:13:26.210 Robert Tseng: There’s the…
122 00:13:30.400 ⇒ 00:13:32.570 Robert Tseng: Did we shut off the MixPanel stuff yet?
123 00:13:34.380 ⇒ 00:13:35.360 Robert Tseng: For email?
124 00:13:35.360 ⇒ 00:13:40.620 Henry Zhao: Yes, yup, we shut it off, but I forgot to add back in email clicks, so I’m gonna do that today.
125 00:13:40.950 ⇒ 00:13:41.830 Robert Tseng: Okay.
126 00:13:43.420 ⇒ 00:13:47.170 Henry Zhao: Yeah, I just turned everything off, so I forgot we were gonna keep you working.
127 00:13:48.380 ⇒ 00:13:53.170 Robert Tseng: I’m just gonna say mixed county event volumes dropped by 30%, removed, CIO.
128 00:13:54.840 ⇒ 00:13:56.689 Robert Tseng: Good people, yeah, thanks.
129 00:13:57.410 ⇒ 00:14:00.390 Robert Tseng: Or, I won’t say difficult, it’s unnecessary.
130 00:14:01.240 ⇒ 00:14:07.439 Robert Tseng: Then there’s the, like, what else, what else are we waiting on them for?
131 00:14:08.010 ⇒ 00:14:18.289 Robert Tseng: what direction do we need? So, I mean, based on my conversation with Henry just now, what is our affiliate strategy? Don’t understand the…
132 00:14:18.700 ⇒ 00:14:23.389 Robert Tseng: The mix of our, our two, space.
133 00:14:24.040 ⇒ 00:14:30.419 Robert Tseng: And I can just kind of audible along some things here. So, I’ll talk about what I learned about,
134 00:14:36.110 ⇒ 00:14:36.550 Amber Lin: God.
135 00:14:36.550 ⇒ 00:14:42.979 Henry Zhao: I think Catalyst will cost a lot less, but I think we should still monitor over time, like, what ROI we’re actually getting from affiliates that make our…
136 00:14:43.510 ⇒ 00:14:44.700 Henry Zhao: Recommendation there.
137 00:14:52.320 ⇒ 00:15:03.860 Amber Lin: And I think upcoming is our work with the supply chain folks. They just invited me to one of the meetings next Monday, so I think we’ll start work on
138 00:15:04.010 ⇒ 00:15:05.800 Amber Lin: Start work there.
139 00:15:05.920 ⇒ 00:15:13.800 Amber Lin: once they are onboarded, but I don’t think… I don’t know if it warrants a discussion with the ELT of how important that’s gonna be.
140 00:15:15.500 ⇒ 00:15:21.409 Robert Tseng: They’re also gonna ask about CRL ownership, so, like, BTM,
141 00:15:21.700 ⇒ 00:15:25.160 Robert Tseng: Like, what basically, like, what is Ryan’s role?
142 00:15:25.490 ⇒ 00:15:26.100 Amber Lin: Hmm.
143 00:15:27.260 ⇒ 00:15:28.980 Robert Tseng: I was brainforged.
144 00:15:29.150 ⇒ 00:15:34.730 Robert Tseng: going to… there’s… how is Brainforce training Ryan? Like, you know, like, the whole…
145 00:15:35.840 ⇒ 00:15:43.410 Robert Tseng: winding down… Andrew… like, Andrew…
146 00:15:43.820 ⇒ 00:15:50.229 Robert Tseng: plus Zoran equals, like, I don’t know, like, 20 hours a week, question mark. Ryan…
147 00:15:50.440 ⇒ 00:15:59.140 Robert Tseng: is doing what? Like, I don’t know, I think I… I’m just, like, I’m asking all the questions here. I mean, I wish we kind of had some…
148 00:15:59.270 ⇒ 00:16:01.319 Robert Tseng: Perspective on this already, but…
149 00:16:03.030 ⇒ 00:16:08.490 Robert Tseng: Yeah, like, I think these are all the things that I’m… I… I want to talk about, and then I want to be able to tell them that we did.
150 00:16:10.080 ⇒ 00:16:10.760 Amber Lin: Okay.
151 00:16:10.900 ⇒ 00:16:16.079 Amber Lin: Is there any information you need that we can help supplement this conver- this conversation?
152 00:16:18.360 ⇒ 00:16:18.929 Amber Lin: Where is this going?
153 00:16:18.930 ⇒ 00:16:23.199 Robert Tseng: Well, yeah, I’m asking, am I missing… am I missing anything else?
154 00:16:24.980 ⇒ 00:16:27.120 Amber Lin: Let me go check real quick…
155 00:16:27.120 ⇒ 00:16:32.460 Awaish Kumar: So, I have added, like, context for some of the things, Robert, you asked.
156 00:16:32.930 ⇒ 00:16:33.430 Robert Tseng: Okay.
157 00:16:33.430 ⇒ 00:16:35.209 Awaish Kumar: In the… in the dog, yeah.
158 00:16:37.710 ⇒ 00:16:40.749 Robert Tseng: Okay, great. You met a place up here, customer I.O.
159 00:16:41.010 ⇒ 00:16:41.440 Amber Lin: Yeah.
160 00:16:41.700 ⇒ 00:16:43.050 Robert Tseng: I think that’s fine.
161 00:16:43.240 ⇒ 00:16:44.069 Amber Lin: Yeah, affiliate stuff.
162 00:16:44.070 ⇒ 00:16:46.009 Robert Tseng: I don’t know what we did there. It’s not clear.
163 00:16:46.010 ⇒ 00:16:46.530 Amber Lin: Yeah.
164 00:16:46.530 ⇒ 00:16:47.640 Robert Tseng: And, yeah.
165 00:16:48.040 ⇒ 00:16:57.709 Amber Lin: Also, end of quarter is coming up, so we… I assume we would anticipate some work, especially for finance, if they want to close end of quarter.
166 00:16:57.870 ⇒ 00:17:01.559 Amber Lin: I don’t know if they close on quarterly cadences.
167 00:17:01.820 ⇒ 00:17:08.090 Robert Tseng: Their quarter is slightly different. It’s, it’s… the end of quarter is in October, not.
168 00:17:08.099 ⇒ 00:17:08.699 Amber Lin: September.
169 00:17:08.700 ⇒ 00:17:09.649 Robert Tseng: We’re back. Yeah.
170 00:17:09.650 ⇒ 00:17:10.829 Amber Lin: Oh, okay, okay.
171 00:17:10.839 ⇒ 00:17:14.779 Robert Tseng: Not at all. It’s just a slightly different schedule.
172 00:17:20.219 ⇒ 00:17:25.449 Robert Tseng: Yeah, but if they ask about, like, what about finance, like, what am I… what should I say about finance?
173 00:17:27.329 ⇒ 00:17:28.059 Amber Lin: Well…
174 00:17:28.769 ⇒ 00:17:35.489 Amber Lin: Finance, we’ve been able to get the QuickBook data. We’ve been able to get the data and do the modeling. The dashboard is not there yet, though.
175 00:17:35.890 ⇒ 00:17:41.749 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I think Demolade will be filling out that in the document, but, like, we are done with the modeling part.
176 00:17:41.960 ⇒ 00:17:48.780 Awaish Kumar: For the finance and… Yeah, next is, like, building the visualizations.
177 00:17:50.310 ⇒ 00:17:50.960 Robert Tseng: Okay.
178 00:17:58.040 ⇒ 00:18:00.640 Amber Lin: And then…
179 00:18:02.040 ⇒ 00:18:11.299 Amber Lin: We also helped them build a few dashboards on the marketing side, so a customer I.O. dashboard and an organic search dashboard.
180 00:18:14.360 ⇒ 00:18:18.159 Amber Lin: Okay, and then upcoming is some work with Brad.
181 00:18:19.830 ⇒ 00:18:21.410 Amber Lin: We want to mention that.
182 00:18:28.100 ⇒ 00:18:29.160 Amber Lin: I think that’s all.
183 00:18:30.150 ⇒ 00:18:30.860 Robert Tseng: Okay.
184 00:18:34.330 ⇒ 00:18:38.099 Amber Lin: And currently our total hours has been around, say.
185 00:18:39.010 ⇒ 00:18:47.970 Amber Lin: 80… 85-ish, up until now. This week, I think we’ll have… we’ll have Hopefully we’ll have better hours.
186 00:18:48.110 ⇒ 00:18:52.760 Amber Lin: But that’s because we didn’t take on as much scope.
187 00:18:52.990 ⇒ 00:18:58.639 Amber Lin: So, if you want a benchmark, or how much we are currently spending, we can let them know.
188 00:18:59.790 ⇒ 00:19:18.690 Robert Tseng: Okay, yeah, it’s like, I mean, this is good to kind of just call. As we’re continuing to evolve, like, the way we do these retros, yeah, I think there’s, like, the internal, like, need to know what went well, what didn’t go well, and, like, process improvement. But, yeah, I think this is kind of timed now, where I have a… I do have a 15-minute check-in with them every Friday.
189 00:19:19.080 ⇒ 00:19:26.610 Robert Tseng: a bi-weekly Wednesday kind of deck readout with them, which will come next week. So, it’s kind of just to give them, like.
190 00:19:28.240 ⇒ 00:19:39.030 Robert Tseng: Yeah, any quick escalation things that they need to handle for us, because we’re being blocked by anybody on the team, or if we don’t have, like, clarity on something, like, this is the time for me to be able to call that out.
191 00:19:39.040 ⇒ 00:19:57.559 Robert Tseng: on Wednesdays, it’s more kind of, like, roadmap planning, being able to just, like, kind of work with them on, kind of… yeah, and yeah, so I think that’s… that’s less, like, what I would expect from the team to help with. Mainly Amber, and Amber will help, kind of, with the decks on… on the Wednesday stuff.
192 00:19:59.190 ⇒ 00:20:08.059 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I think with us taking less scope, I just think we need to be very clear about how we communicate why what we do matters, which is fine. Like, I’d rather us
193 00:20:08.240 ⇒ 00:20:21.339 Robert Tseng: do 3 out of 10 things they ask for, but be able to articulate very clearly what… why we did it and why it was important. And, like, that… that’ll be fine. Like, I don’t think they’re gonna complain about that, but .
194 00:20:21.900 ⇒ 00:20:23.799 Robert Tseng: Yeah, if I just, like, have a bunch of…
195 00:20:24.410 ⇒ 00:20:33.589 Robert Tseng: if I just sent them a list of things that we did, it’s… it’s not going to… it’s not going to hit. They’re not going to understand, like, why that matters, right? You have to just kind of think about it from their perspective, so…
196 00:20:34.200 ⇒ 00:20:37.270 Robert Tseng: I hope that we could use… we could just be a little bit…
197 00:20:37.460 ⇒ 00:20:41.019 Robert Tseng: more prepared coming into this call on Friday.
198 00:20:41.180 ⇒ 00:20:50.829 Robert Tseng: I’ll drop points for the ELT discussion, and we can kind of, like, answer anything there, but then I think when we’re talking about the work that got done, like, let’s just make sure that we’re…
199 00:20:51.880 ⇒ 00:20:54.449 Robert Tseng: Answering, kind of, just, like.
200 00:20:54.890 ⇒ 00:21:08.500 Robert Tseng: Yeah, just put… just put on your ELT hat. If you can’t do that, maybe create a template or something that just gives you basic questions you need to answer, but… I mean, I guess… I think you guys understand the point of, like, what I’m trying to make. It’s, like, I…
201 00:21:08.500 ⇒ 00:21:15.790 Robert Tseng: I just… I just need to be able to explain to them, well, the what. Not just the what, but the why is the most important.
202 00:21:16.620 ⇒ 00:21:17.280 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
203 00:21:17.600 ⇒ 00:21:18.190 Amber Lin: Yep.
204 00:21:19.570 ⇒ 00:21:20.520 Robert Tseng: I see.
205 00:21:20.970 ⇒ 00:21:23.290 Amber Lin: Sounds good. Yeah.
206 00:21:23.800 ⇒ 00:21:24.870 Amber Lin: Alright.
207 00:21:25.310 ⇒ 00:21:27.029 Amber Lin: So we have…
208 00:21:27.880 ⇒ 00:21:34.439 Amber Lin: Henry will fill out his part, and then I’ll go through this, and I’ll change… I’ll create a template for our updates.
209 00:21:34.740 ⇒ 00:21:37.380 Amber Lin: I’ll also work with Justin on this.
210 00:21:37.810 ⇒ 00:21:50.639 Amber Lin: Because so far, all our projects mostly has been, we did this because we had this task. I think on ABC, I was able to do a bit more of reasoning, but I definitely should have more of that here.
211 00:21:51.000 ⇒ 00:21:56.369 Amber Lin: And it can be a lot higher level than the ticket, like, the exact ticket content.
212 00:22:00.130 ⇒ 00:22:00.730 Robert Tseng: Okay.
213 00:22:00.730 ⇒ 00:22:01.250 Amber Lin: Yep.
214 00:22:02.680 ⇒ 00:22:03.450 Amber Lin: Alright.
215 00:22:04.020 ⇒ 00:22:06.579 Amber Lin: Sounds good.
216 00:22:07.350 ⇒ 00:22:12.149 Amber Lin: I think, Robert, feel free to drop, I’m just gonna run through the tickets here real quick.
217 00:22:12.450 ⇒ 00:22:15.059 Amber Lin: Great. Thanks, guys. Thanks. Bye.
218 00:22:17.200 ⇒ 00:22:22.689 Amber Lin: With Real Wish’s ticket, don’t let it have these top 3 tickets been merged?
219 00:22:24.210 ⇒ 00:22:27.829 Demilade Agboola: I’m not sure, I’ll just do that now, so that…
220 00:22:27.830 ⇒ 00:22:28.500 Amber Lin: Okay.
221 00:22:29.300 ⇒ 00:22:30.020 Amber Lin: Okay.
222 00:22:30.650 ⇒ 00:22:38.749 Amber Lin: And then for the rest of today, do you think these three one-point tasks, one-hour tasks can be done?
223 00:22:41.500 ⇒ 00:22:45.160 Demilade Agboola: I’m not sure about all three, but I know 805 can be done.
224 00:22:46.420 ⇒ 00:22:47.020 Demilade Agboola: Huh.
225 00:22:47.230 ⇒ 00:22:50.630 Amber Lin: What about 895?
226 00:22:51.200 ⇒ 00:22:57.489 Demilade Agboola: I’ll reach out to Adam, but, like, since it’s dependent on, you know, responses and verification, I’m not sure if…
227 00:22:57.680 ⇒ 00:22:59.679 Demilade Agboola: I can guarantee you’ll be done today.
228 00:22:59.810 ⇒ 00:23:01.250 Amber Lin: Okay.
229 00:23:02.800 ⇒ 00:23:03.570 Amber Lin: Okay.
230 00:23:06.420 ⇒ 00:23:09.120 Amber Lin: And the Notion doc for COGS.
231 00:23:12.990 ⇒ 00:23:16.440 Demilade Agboola: I thought we had something for that, to be honest.
232 00:23:16.440 ⇒ 00:23:17.760 Amber Lin: At all?
233 00:23:18.420 ⇒ 00:23:29.510 Amber Lin: I don’t think it’s detailed enough of what exactly we need. I think it’s more of a current state of where we’re at, but I don’t know if it has the data listed out.
234 00:23:30.890 ⇒ 00:23:31.370 Demilade Agboola: I agree.
235 00:23:31.370 ⇒ 00:23:46.060 Awaish Kumar: I made a document which is available on Notion, and under the Eden project, you can look at it, but that’s mainly derailade just a bit of conversation between us, regarding the current state, and what we are basically
236 00:23:46.310 ⇒ 00:23:55.050 Awaish Kumar: facing right now. But the purpose of this document is that we want to build a strategy which we want to share with the
237 00:23:55.240 ⇒ 00:23:59.639 Awaish Kumar: The, like, the EMR team, right? Which, which are building a new system.
238 00:23:59.810 ⇒ 00:24:09.540 Awaish Kumar: So we are going to say, like, this is how we want to receive it, maybe through API call or webhook, whatever, but this should be the table which we will receive from you,
239 00:24:09.830 ⇒ 00:24:23.969 Awaish Kumar: product name, cost, variant ID, whatever we need, and then whenever there’s an update in the product variant, or in the cost, it will come to us, like, this way, a new entry, or whatever.
240 00:24:24.190 ⇒ 00:24:30.089 Awaish Kumar: And, like, that’s, like, the… basically the strategy for handling the COGS and the new system.
241 00:24:37.060 ⇒ 00:24:37.580 Amber Lin: Oh.
242 00:24:37.580 ⇒ 00:24:42.259 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, you can, like, define the schema or something that you need. Basically, you…
243 00:24:42.460 ⇒ 00:24:45.609 Awaish Kumar: You have been doing it manually for… for…
244 00:24:46.820 ⇒ 00:24:49.149 Awaish Kumar: Quite a few times, so we just wanted
245 00:24:49.340 ⇒ 00:24:54.099 Awaish Kumar: The, like, what will be the ideal situation, and then we can share it with the team.
246 00:24:54.270 ⇒ 00:24:58.089 Awaish Kumar: So, basically, they can implement it for us.
247 00:25:00.160 ⇒ 00:25:02.530 Demilade Agboola: Okay, sounds good. I’ll look at that.
248 00:25:02.930 ⇒ 00:25:03.680 Amber Lin: Alright.
249 00:25:04.010 ⇒ 00:25:13.769 Amber Lin: And then, Henry, I saw your message. I know you didn’t have time yesterday. Based on… for these, do you think all of these we can finish?
250 00:25:14.250 ⇒ 00:25:16.099 Amber Lin: What’s the plan?
251 00:25:16.650 ⇒ 00:25:23.610 Henry Zhao: Yeah, I can finish the rollout plan for UTM tracking today. The Jeff Dash is done.
252 00:25:25.050 ⇒ 00:25:28.099 Amber Lin: The access… is the access issue resolved?
253 00:25:28.100 ⇒ 00:25:29.200 Henry Zhao: Yeah,
254 00:25:29.200 ⇒ 00:25:37.110 Amber Lin: Okay, awesome. I will close that. And I know the email sends are in review, right? Or do we mark that as done, too?
255 00:25:39.870 ⇒ 00:25:46.529 Henry Zhao: Yeah, I just need to… I just need to fix something, so just leave it as, in progress, I need to fix something, and then it should be done.
256 00:25:46.530 ⇒ 00:25:47.250 Amber Lin: Okay.
257 00:25:47.490 ⇒ 00:25:48.050 Amber Lin: I’m sorry.
258 00:25:48.050 ⇒ 00:25:48.540 Henry Zhao: Finance.
259 00:25:48.540 ⇒ 00:25:49.290 Amber Lin: follow-up plan…
260 00:25:49.290 ⇒ 00:25:56.000 Henry Zhao: Finance… that was… finance was big, but I will have a lot of time next week, so I will definitely be able to finish that next week, I think.
261 00:25:56.830 ⇒ 00:25:57.190 Awaish Kumar: Hmm.
262 00:26:01.070 ⇒ 00:26:03.799 Amber Lin: Okay, so the two spikes for…
263 00:26:03.980 ⇒ 00:26:08.359 Amber Lin: Off to a pharmacy, and then Christina’s dashboard.
264 00:26:08.780 ⇒ 00:26:15.490 Henry Zhao: Yeah, I’ll try to look at those today. If not, I might have to get to it on Monday, but, should be able to look into it today. I don’t think those will take that long.
265 00:26:15.670 ⇒ 00:26:18.240 Amber Lin: Okay, do you have time on the weekend to work?
266 00:26:18.240 ⇒ 00:26:19.279 Henry Zhao: Yeah, I agree.
267 00:26:19.280 ⇒ 00:26:20.230 Amber Lin: Okay.
268 00:26:20.550 ⇒ 00:26:33.739 Amber Lin: I’m just trying to see what we can close out based on what we promised this cycle. And I’ll ask Robert about that one, and I think Zoran’s task, is the Stuart item blocked?
269 00:26:36.730 ⇒ 00:26:39.620 Henry Zhao: I think there’s… he’s talking to Stuart about it, so…
270 00:26:39.620 ⇒ 00:26:40.000 Amber Lin: Oh, okay.
271 00:26:40.000 ⇒ 00:26:41.739 Henry Zhao: I’ll find another definite.
272 00:26:42.030 ⇒ 00:26:42.700 Amber Lin: Okay.
273 00:26:43.020 ⇒ 00:26:51.280 Amber Lin: Gotcha. On that end, Henry, do you want to loop me in so you don’t have to be the only one getting updates from Zorin?
274 00:26:51.460 ⇒ 00:26:54.519 Amber Lin: I feel like you’re juggling a lot of stuff here.
275 00:26:54.520 ⇒ 00:27:00.739 Henry Zhao: No, not really, but yeah, if you want to invite Zoran to this meeting, we can, but I don’t mind being there.
276 00:27:00.740 ⇒ 00:27:06.380 Amber Lin: Okay, okay. If you guys have a channel, whatever, you can add me, I just, I know Zoran sometimes doesn’t…
277 00:27:06.380 ⇒ 00:27:12.869 Henry Zhao: Can’t join meetings, so I’ll see when he’s available. Yeah, but also I don’t mind doing that.
278 00:27:12.870 ⇒ 00:27:14.710 Amber Lin: Okay, sounds good.
279 00:27:14.870 ⇒ 00:27:16.330 Henry Zhao: Alright, I’ll…
280 00:27:16.330 ⇒ 00:27:22.050 Amber Lin: Check in probably later today, to see if things get closed.
281 00:27:23.470 ⇒ 00:27:32.039 Amber Lin: Anything else? Any items that we did well, we didn’t… that we need to improve? Anything you guys want to bring up?
282 00:27:33.860 ⇒ 00:27:36.050 Henry Zhao: I thought this week went pretty well.
283 00:27:42.880 ⇒ 00:27:56.059 Amber Lin: I think we had a lot better capacity planning this week. I think we still need to improve on our estimates, and also I… me, personally, as a PM, I should probably give more buffer time on
284 00:27:56.290 ⇒ 00:28:01.509 Amber Lin: how we… how we estimate, and then, just as Robert said, we should…
285 00:28:01.840 ⇒ 00:28:12.469 Amber Lin: If we take on something, probably we should note down the ticket of why this is important, and what impact it will have, and then we can use that to…
286 00:28:12.600 ⇒ 00:28:15.069 Amber Lin: Filter out some other tickets.
287 00:28:18.640 ⇒ 00:28:19.520 Amber Lin: Alright.
288 00:28:21.910 ⇒ 00:28:28.749 Awaish Kumar: That could be, like, part of when we do this spike, like, we got a request to, for example, create a ticket.
289 00:28:28.860 ⇒ 00:28:36.870 Awaish Kumar: With some, some, like, halfway information. But when, like, as I mentioned, for each of the tickets, we are going to have a
290 00:28:37.090 ⇒ 00:28:40.289 Awaish Kumar: Spike first, if that’s, like, something very…
291 00:28:40.680 ⇒ 00:28:56.530 Awaish Kumar: new or something, then we are obviously going to have a spike before moving for implementation. And when we are having that spike, and identifying our whys, and how much improvements it can make to us, these will be the part of that spike ticket.
292 00:29:00.360 ⇒ 00:29:01.120 Amber Lin: Okay.
293 00:29:01.240 ⇒ 00:29:02.540 Amber Lin: That’s a good point.
294 00:29:02.640 ⇒ 00:29:10.549 Amber Lin: And I will update the retro template, the end of week update template.
295 00:29:10.910 ⇒ 00:29:11.990 Amber Lin: I am.
296 00:29:16.740 ⇒ 00:29:17.570 Amber Lin: Alright.
297 00:29:17.950 ⇒ 00:29:22.089 Amber Lin: Thanks, everyone. Once you fill out the update…
298 00:29:22.570 ⇒ 00:29:25.869 Amber Lin: Let me know, and then I can go in and edit it.
299 00:29:27.440 ⇒ 00:29:29.040 Henry Zhao: Thank you.
300 00:29:29.290 ⇒ 00:29:30.909 Demilade Agboola: Great, thanks everyone!
301 00:29:31.100 ⇒ 00:29:31.610 Amber Lin: Bye.
302 00:29:31.610 ⇒ 00:29:32.170 Henry Zhao: y’all.
303 00:29:32.470 ⇒ 00:29:33.120 Demilade Agboola: Alright.