Meeting Title: Brainforge Project Time Allocations Review Date: 2025-08-26 Meeting participants: Awaish Kumar, Rico Rejoso, Amber Lin, Shreya Chowdhury, Uttam Kumaran


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1 00:00:19.320 00:00:20.700 Amber Lin: Hello!

2 00:00:23.440 00:00:26.010 Amber Lin: Let me share a few links.

3 00:00:26.510 00:00:27.310 Amber Lin: Hi.

4 00:00:27.700 00:00:29.819 Amber Lin: Do we have a notion?

5 00:00:29.960 00:00:34.690 Amber Lin: Rico, do we have a Notion doc to write down some decisions from this meeting?

6 00:00:36.200 00:00:38.060 Rico Rejoso: None, but….

7 00:00:38.060 00:00:38.789 Amber Lin: Oh, okay.

8 00:00:38.790 00:00:39.600 Rico Rejoso: can get one.

9 00:00:40.390 00:00:44.830 Amber Lin: Okay, yeah, … Hi, Shreya.

10 00:00:46.750 00:00:48.019 Shreya Chowdhury: Hey, good morning.

11 00:00:48.330 00:01:03.829 Amber Lin: Hi, I’m doing good. He wanted to invite you here just to see what we do to allocate time to each project and talk about margins. I don’t think he expects you to contribute for this month, but just so that you get familiar with what happens internally.

12 00:01:04.209 00:01:05.569 Shreya Chowdhury: Okay, sounds good.

13 00:01:05.860 00:01:06.410 Amber Lin: Fall.

14 00:01:07.560 00:01:16.510 Amber Lin: Let me create a document… Okay…

15 00:02:06.240 00:02:14.049 Amber Lin: I’m missing Utam, I think he’s in the interview. Let me send you guys a few links, so we can take a look.

16 00:02:14.950 00:02:17.599 Amber Lin: We’ll get started.

17 00:02:18.890 00:02:23.940 Amber Lin: Hoarding… Clockify… Okay.

18 00:02:24.930 00:02:27.940 Amber Lin: So, here is…

19 00:02:28.410 00:02:36.600 Amber Lin: a Notion doc. In it, you can find the link to operating, and also the link to… …

20 00:02:37.360 00:02:45.769 Amber Lin: August time clockify… clockifying time entries to date, so let me just note that down.

21 00:02:47.130 00:02:50.780 Amber Lin: Operating, so…

22 00:03:09.430 00:03:10.270 Amber Lin: Yeah.

23 00:03:10.390 00:03:17.060 Amber Lin: And… I mean, Awish, since you’re here, let’s talk about…

24 00:03:17.260 00:03:20.880 Amber Lin: Let’s just get started and talk about the projects

25 00:03:21.140 00:03:28.940 Amber Lin: We are both on it. I was reading a little bit of what Robert said in channel… …

26 00:03:29.170 00:03:31.280 Amber Lin: Let me… here.

27 00:03:31.640 00:03:33.770 Amber Lin: So, for Eden…

28 00:03:38.980 00:03:41.930 Amber Lin: So, this is Eden’s time.

29 00:03:42.440 00:03:44.010 Amber Lin: Entries…

30 00:03:47.940 00:03:49.760 Amber Lin: And then…

31 00:03:53.450 00:03:55.089 Amber Lin: Let’s see…

32 00:03:58.760 00:04:00.010 Amber Lin: What else?

33 00:04:00.800 00:04:04.530 Amber Lin: And on operating… Okay.

34 00:04:11.860 00:04:18.109 Amber Lin: So, last time, when we allocated… Let’s see, this…

35 00:04:22.800 00:04:23.630 Amber Lin: Oops.

36 00:04:25.390 00:04:28.580 Amber Lin: And this was the original allocation for August.

37 00:04:29.940 00:04:31.020 Amber Lin: Oh, wow.

38 00:04:31.870 00:04:36.690 Amber Lin: So… I don’t think we are at our…

39 00:04:43.070 00:04:44.230 Amber Lin: So…

40 00:04:45.080 00:05:01.080 Amber Lin: Let me check. I think I’m probably below my allocated hours, or a little bit above. 25 is, like, 10 hours per week. August has… it has been… how many weeks in August?

41 00:05:01.280 00:05:05.490 Amber Lin: I think it has been 1, 2, 3…

42 00:05:05.850 00:05:10.520 Amber Lin: 3… 3 weeks and, like, 2 days in August.

43 00:05:10.680 00:05:19.760 Amber Lin: So… if it… we count it as, like, 3 weeks, Annie’s at… How many hours?

44 00:05:19.760 00:05:27.580 Awaish Kumar: Oh my god, like… And it should be 20 hours per week, but… She’s expanding a lot more.

45 00:05:27.580 00:05:28.880 Amber Lin: 37!

46 00:05:29.270 00:05:30.559 Amber Lin: Oh, gosh.

47 00:05:30.920 00:05:33.610 Awaish Kumar: It’s going to 4D, right? Maybe because of…

48 00:05:34.410 00:05:37.549 Awaish Kumar: AJ, she didn’t log a few…

49 00:05:37.970 00:05:40.510 Awaish Kumar: Days, and we still have a few days left.

50 00:05:40.650 00:05:46.699 Awaish Kumar: So, he’s probably log 40, but we want to keep it at 20.

51 00:05:47.280 00:05:48.780 Amber Lin: Yeah, okay.

52 00:05:49.880 00:05:53.010 Amber Lin: So, I’m spending 11 hours per week

53 00:05:53.900 00:05:57.520 Amber Lin: I wish you were spending….

54 00:05:57.520 00:06:00.820 Awaish Kumar: It’s, going over 10, so it’s, like.

55 00:06:00.820 00:06:01.790 Amber Lin: Yeah.

56 00:06:01.790 00:06:02.890 Awaish Kumar: We’ll do 15.

57 00:06:02.890 00:06:05.520 Amber Lin: It was, like, 13 hours per week.

58 00:06:06.480 00:06:07.240 Awaish Kumar: Yeah.

59 00:06:08.040 00:06:16.560 Amber Lin: And then… Demolade, I don’t know… Henry, Rostov, ….

60 00:06:18.670 00:06:22.600 Awaish Kumar: And, yeah, Vashtiv is 10, but, like, no longer here.

61 00:06:22.790 00:06:23.470 Amber Lin: Yeah.

62 00:06:24.450 00:06:31.730 Amber Lin: What are you spending… 15 hours… per week.

63 00:06:31.990 00:06:36.000 Amber Lin: Which I think is pretty much what we allocated of 75%.

64 00:06:36.160 00:06:37.190 Amber Lin: of…

65 00:06:40.140 00:06:48.869 Amber Lin: Yeah, which is, like, he’s on track for his allocations. I think Vosh, I was slightly over, but it’s fine. I think you’re slightly…

66 00:06:49.200 00:06:56.859 Amber Lin: You’re slightly over… Annie’s very over. So I think we just need to look at Annie’s hours.

67 00:06:57.030 00:07:02.160 Amber Lin: Do we know who’s gonna fill in for Vashtrav’s work next… moving forward.

68 00:07:02.160 00:07:03.650 Awaish Kumar: corridor. That’s me.

69 00:07:03.650 00:07:03.965 Amber Lin: Cool.

70 00:07:04.740 00:07:11.640 Amber Lin: I see, that’s very unfortunate. Okay, so your hours… Is that gonna double?

71 00:07:12.890 00:07:19.070 Awaish Kumar: So, like, there are two things. We… ideally, We want to keep…

72 00:07:19.200 00:07:31.879 Awaish Kumar: myself and Demolari at 25% of the time, and any on 50%. Like, that’s the ideal case, even without Vaishnav. But the…

73 00:07:32.620 00:07:37.420 Awaish Kumar: The pace with which we get the request from Aiden.

74 00:07:38.500 00:07:42.459 Awaish Kumar: It doesn’t really… align with this…

75 00:07:43.280 00:07:46.119 Awaish Kumar: Right? I’ve gotten quite a few times.

76 00:07:46.120 00:07:47.459 Amber Lin: Thank you guys, recently.

77 00:07:47.460 00:07:52.740 Awaish Kumar: I mean, we… so we have quite a few… meetings, right?

78 00:07:52.900 00:07:57.550 Awaish Kumar: And then we have quite a few… …

79 00:07:58.110 00:08:09.010 Awaish Kumar: ad hoc, right? And then we have some real modeling, or… data engineering work. So…

80 00:08:10.270 00:08:19.029 Awaish Kumar: what I would suggest, if we want to keep it, like, in the ideal stage, what I would, …

81 00:08:19.610 00:08:23.930 Awaish Kumar: Suggest is that, tomorrow we have a grooming.

82 00:08:24.260 00:08:33.510 Awaish Kumar: So, we can basically estimate the tickets properly, Like, like, very… pessimistic.

83 00:08:33.789 00:08:35.840 Awaish Kumar: pessimistically, right?

84 00:08:38.159 00:08:49.110 Awaish Kumar: And, … And… For each person, we gonna… Keep the tickets.

85 00:08:49.330 00:08:58.880 Awaish Kumar: Which, which are basically, aligned with their, hours cap.

86 00:08:59.510 00:09:09.880 Awaish Kumar: We are going to ask, for example, Robert, that with the given hours cap, ideal hours, this is what we can do. Is this good enough?

87 00:09:10.670 00:09:29.010 Awaish Kumar: You know, like, a good enough workload, or good enough work, for a client. Like, if… like, as a client’s perspective, whatever we deliver in that ideal hour, is that good enough for him to, what do you want to say, like, defend, right?

88 00:09:29.340 00:09:38.170 Awaish Kumar: If he’s okay with that, then we can keep that. Otherwise, we are going to increase that cap.

89 00:09:38.690 00:09:39.409 Amber Lin: Huh.

90 00:09:41.390 00:09:53.210 Amber Lin: Okay, so I’m looking at the September allocations. I think my time’s gonna stay the same. I don’t know if we’re gonna end Andrew’s time.

91 00:09:53.340 00:09:57.130 Amber Lin: I do want to keep Annie’s hours at still the 50%.

92 00:09:57.130 00:09:58.110 Awaish Kumar: I screwed.

93 00:09:58.110 00:09:59.260 Amber Lin: have to increase.

94 00:09:59.260 00:10:05.440 Awaish Kumar: I… I’m… I’m, like, I don’t have any clue about Henry’s hours, because…

95 00:10:05.980 00:10:09.109 Awaish Kumar: I’m not sure, like, from the tickets, we have….

96 00:10:11.330 00:10:23.730 Awaish Kumar: like, I don’t know if they are moving with the pace, but I don’t know if he’s doing any, any non-ticketed work with Robert, I’m not sure about that, but the ticketed work

97 00:10:25.340 00:10:27.640 Awaish Kumar: It doesn’t seem like a 15 hours book.

98 00:10:27.640 00:10:31.219 Amber Lin: Yeah, I agree. I was gonna say that, too. …

99 00:10:32.440 00:10:44.900 Amber Lin: I think mostly what I hear from meetings is that he will tell me, oh, there’s, there’s gonna have to be a meeting with Robert. So, it sounds like there’s a lot of meetings. I’m not sure if everything is ticketed.

100 00:10:44.900 00:10:52.680 Amber Lin: I also don’t know if it is 15 hours of work, but he’s not that over, so I’m not…

101 00:10:53.120 00:10:55.640 Amber Lin: too worried, but….

102 00:10:55.640 00:10:57.850 Awaish Kumar: That’s something… I guess if that’s…

103 00:10:58.920 00:11:04.360 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, because, right, we get a lot of work on other sites, so if….

104 00:11:04.570 00:11:08.340 Amber Lin: If we can reduce his hours, we can increase someone else’s hours.

105 00:11:09.560 00:11:13.090 Amber Lin: Yeah, and he is… I think he’s at the highest rate of the team.

106 00:11:13.410 00:11:14.710 Amber Lin: For now.

107 00:11:15.460 00:11:20.969 Amber Lin: … Okay. How many hours would yours be?

108 00:11:23.740 00:11:29.110 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, that’s… that’s what I just said, like, I want to keep it 25.

109 00:11:29.110 00:11:29.460 Amber Lin: Mmm….

110 00:11:29.460 00:11:41.180 Awaish Kumar: But that’s… what do you think? Should we keep the ideal one, or should, like, and then adjust it after meeting with Robert, or should we just adjust it now?

111 00:11:41.750 00:11:45.609 Amber Lin: … Let me pull up your…

112 00:11:45.760 00:11:53.509 Amber Lin: Here. So you have some on ABC, which I don’t know if it’s 20 hours….

113 00:11:53.510 00:12:01.800 Awaish Kumar: 20% means… I don’t know, right now on ABC, we don’t have, much, right?

114 00:12:01.800 00:12:07.100 Amber Lin: Yeah, and then we’re getting, Sam to help with the….

115 00:12:07.620 00:12:09.100 Awaish Kumar: AI work, but on the….

116 00:12:09.100 00:12:14.600 Amber Lin: Yeah, to help with the automations bit, but I think with the data… So….

117 00:12:14.600 00:12:16.959 Awaish Kumar: We have the data pipelines, ….

118 00:12:16.960 00:12:17.630 Amber Lin: Yeah.

119 00:12:17.630 00:12:22.709 Awaish Kumar: We might have something, but I think we should just keep it at, like.

120 00:12:22.710 00:12:23.360 Amber Lin: Okay.

121 00:12:23.590 00:12:27.260 Awaish Kumar: Like, 20%, how much is that?

122 00:12:28.630 00:12:30.900 Amber Lin: 8 hours.

123 00:12:30.900 00:12:32.570 Awaish Kumar: I would give it 5.

124 00:12:33.060 00:12:33.630 Amber Lin: Okay.

125 00:12:33.770 00:12:34.550 Amber Lin: Oh.

126 00:12:38.000 00:12:40.240 Awaish Kumar: I’m like, I will reduce it to 5, maybe.

127 00:12:40.240 00:12:40.940 Amber Lin: Okay.

128 00:12:41.420 00:12:46.030 Amber Lin: Oh gosh, I cannot do my calculations. … sorry.

129 00:12:46.700 00:12:49.770 Awaish Kumar: 25 is 1.5%.

130 00:12:53.210 00:12:54.770 Amber Lin: 12.5.

131 00:12:55.770 00:12:56.920 Amber Lin: Alright.

132 00:12:57.530 00:12:58.900 Amber Lin: ….

133 00:12:59.350 00:13:06.529 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, default on… for default, I’m… yeah, default, I’m… I won’t… I’m not spending it.

134 00:13:06.770 00:13:13.189 Awaish Kumar: Anytime I know, like… Oh, I see. It’s just, sometimes it is, like, maybe…

135 00:13:13.980 00:13:24.560 Awaish Kumar: some… like, random, like, ask from Utam for something, like, maybe it’s just one hour or two or something, but I’m….

136 00:13:24.560 00:13:25.170 Amber Lin: Okay.

137 00:13:25.170 00:13:28.720 Awaish Kumar: I’m not… I don’t have fixed… Work on this.

138 00:13:28.720 00:13:35.599 Amber Lin: I see, I see. I’ll just… I’ll just still do, like, 5%, just in case.

139 00:13:36.200 00:13:41.679 Amber Lin: … I think I’ll… oh. Oh.

140 00:13:42.790 00:13:49.140 Amber Lin: I’ll change your hours on… Eden to 30.

141 00:13:50.990 00:13:51.859 Awaish Kumar: It is hard.

142 00:13:53.590 00:13:54.900 Amber Lin: Yeah.

143 00:13:56.600 00:13:57.110 Amber Lin: Okay.

144 00:13:57.110 00:13:59.679 Awaish Kumar: Like, does 30 make even 15?

145 00:14:04.000 00:14:06.690 Amber Lin: I think that’s 12 hours.

146 00:14:06.840 00:14:10.619 Awaish Kumar: I think it’s going to be 15 anyway.

147 00:14:10.620 00:14:11.550 Amber Lin: Okay.

148 00:14:13.530 00:14:18.960 Amber Lin: That doesn’t leave much time for your internal stuff. You have a lot of internal meetings, too.

149 00:14:20.520 00:14:23.879 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, but I have to cover for someone.

150 00:14:26.610 00:14:31.160 Amber Lin: I see. Is there… are you spending this much time on the AI team?

151 00:14:31.990 00:14:36.930 Awaish Kumar: AI team is basically the same things as, ….

152 00:14:36.930 00:14:38.010 Amber Lin: That’s equal.

153 00:14:38.010 00:14:41.340 Awaish Kumar: data engineering things. For example.

154 00:14:41.340 00:14:42.280 Amber Lin: Oh.

155 00:14:43.150 00:14:50.480 Awaish Kumar: Apart from Eden, if there are any Dexter failures, or… like, like I…

156 00:14:51.150 00:14:55.149 Awaish Kumar: I help with insomnia, for example.

157 00:14:55.920 00:15:09.249 Awaish Kumar: Like, we can do some automation to get the Google Ads data, something like that. So, I don’t have insomnia there, so I don’t know where to… maybe you would… I don’t know where to add that.

158 00:15:10.230 00:15:11.829 Amber Lin: Yeah, I’ll probably…

159 00:15:34.320 00:15:35.959 Amber Lin: Oh, round day.

160 00:15:37.130 00:15:38.200 Amber Lin: Nice.

161 00:15:39.110 00:15:39.980 Amber Lin: Ugh.

162 00:15:45.590 00:15:46.720 Amber Lin: Okay.

163 00:15:48.160 00:15:50.270 Amber Lin: That’s a… that’s quite a bit.

164 00:15:50.540 00:15:55.230 Amber Lin: Okay, … So we have the action items for Eden.

165 00:15:55.810 00:15:57.150 Amber Lin: And….

166 00:15:57.150 00:15:57.535 Awaish Kumar: Here.

167 00:15:58.380 00:16:00.410 Amber Lin: Yeah, okay, on to the next.

168 00:16:00.990 00:16:02.830 Amber Lin: …

169 00:16:07.290 00:16:15.940 Amber Lin: Let’s see… for… ABC… …

170 00:16:26.030 00:16:27.450 Amber Lin: Right.

171 00:16:31.150 00:16:34.190 Amber Lin: Let me see… we’re spending…

172 00:16:41.150 00:16:43.869 Amber Lin: How much did I allocate?

173 00:16:47.240 00:16:55.910 Amber Lin: So, in August, we said… I’ll spend 20%… Okay.

174 00:17:03.660 00:17:06.059 Amber Lin: Who is spending more?

175 00:17:06.710 00:17:08.650 Amber Lin: I am…

176 00:17:13.849 00:17:15.109 Amber Lin: …

177 00:17:18.380 00:17:20.980 Amber Lin: Spending, like, 9 hours.

178 00:17:24.030 00:17:25.010 Amber Lin: Okay.

179 00:17:25.579 00:17:28.170 Amber Lin: Didn’t allocate time for Annie.

180 00:17:28.730 00:17:33.649 Amber Lin: Wish, I think you spent… I think that’s a reasonable time.

181 00:17:33.890 00:17:40.579 Amber Lin: Casey spent… That’s more than 20%.

182 00:17:45.470 00:17:50.650 Amber Lin: 28 divided by… It’s, like, April, 4.

183 00:17:53.750 00:17:57.040 Amber Lin: Okay, actually, he’s feeling close to the limit.

184 00:17:57.420 00:18:00.590 Amber Lin: So if I spend a lot less…

185 00:18:05.200 00:18:15.230 Amber Lin: So… I think in the new allocations, probably… We can reduce… Reduce Mustafa’s time there?

186 00:18:15.900 00:18:17.230 Amber Lin: To, like, 10%?

187 00:18:18.510 00:18:24.729 Awaish Kumar: I don’t know, maybe Musifi’s… is, like, has a lot of work with other guys.

188 00:18:25.050 00:18:25.960 Amber Lin: Yeah, he’s….

189 00:18:25.960 00:18:26.830 Awaish Kumar: Absolutely.

190 00:18:26.830 00:18:37.470 Amber Lin: meeting default, and a little bit on Interlude, but Interlude’s closing soon, so Casey has mostly… he’s been the main engineer on ABC and Insomnia.

191 00:18:37.640 00:18:40.500 Amber Lin: So probably we should show that here, too.

192 00:18:41.930 00:18:47.129 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, we can keep Case… KCM really reduces the….

193 00:18:49.230 00:18:55.169 Amber Lin: I can do, like… 10, or should I do 5?

194 00:18:55.490 00:18:56.170 Amber Lin: T….

195 00:18:56.170 00:19:00.690 Awaish Kumar: And, like, are you… like, are you assigning any tickets to Mustafa for….

196 00:19:01.060 00:19:10.779 Amber Lin: Very, very little, and those tickets can be done by Casey. It’s just, we want to have some level of redundancy, so I, I just have both of them there at the meetings.

197 00:19:10.960 00:19:17.059 Amber Lin: I’m gonna bump Casey’s hours up a little… a little bit.

198 00:19:17.270 00:19:22.849 Amber Lin: … let’s see… How is that? Okay.

199 00:19:23.500 00:19:26.720 Amber Lin: Yeah, I’ll just do… New 25.

200 00:19:27.250 00:19:33.710 Amber Lin: Okay… And, we said we don’t want any here anymore.

201 00:19:34.580 00:19:41.550 Amber Lin: Okay… Sam’s time, Mustafa’s time… Okay.

202 00:20:06.970 00:20:08.360 Amber Lin: …

203 00:20:11.550 00:20:12.660 Amber Lin: Yeah.

204 00:20:13.740 00:20:19.310 Amber Lin: If there’s DE work on ABC, who would take that? Would that be you, or would that be UTM?

205 00:20:21.140 00:20:29.230 Awaish Kumar: So, right now, like, … AI team and Utam and me are kind of overlapping.

206 00:20:29.830 00:20:30.279 Amber Lin: Huh.

207 00:20:30.280 00:20:38.520 Awaish Kumar: overlapping work. So, DE work can be done by any of us. Yeah, so it… you can…

208 00:20:38.950 00:20:44.280 Awaish Kumar: Let us know, when the ticket comes, we can decide, like, who’s going to take, because….

209 00:20:44.280 00:20:52.670 Amber Lin: Okay, sounds good. … on the… actually, let’s look at… ugh! I have…

210 00:20:53.340 00:20:58.860 Amber Lin: I’m 7… I’m 7 hours from Damalade. Okay.

211 00:20:58.860 00:21:05.459 Awaish Kumar: Let’s put it down here. Oh, for Urban Stems, Kayo is no longer here.

212 00:21:05.460 00:21:08.739 Amber Lin: Yeah, but I… I don’t….

213 00:21:08.740 00:21:19.680 Awaish Kumar: like, probably spanning 20 hours, but yeah, I can message him to log his out. Yeah, Rico also messaged him earlier.

214 00:21:20.170 00:21:29.579 Amber Lin: Kyle from allocations for September, and UTAM’s hours.

215 00:21:30.290 00:21:40.910 Amber Lin: So… Amber, I’m spending, like… 13.6 by, but… 4 hours.

216 00:21:43.670 00:21:46.190 Amber Lin: I would say…

217 00:21:46.650 00:21:54.890 Amber Lin: I don’t know how long UTAM spends, I just want to make sure that we have it there. ABC Eden…

218 00:21:55.890 00:21:57.310 Amber Lin: Burma steps.

219 00:22:00.110 00:22:01.010 Amber Lin: Okay.

220 00:22:01.430 00:22:07.760 Amber Lin: I said Utam Wolf spent, like, 5 hours.

221 00:22:07.990 00:22:08.960 Amber Lin: Each week.

222 00:22:09.750 00:22:14.649 Awaish Kumar: Putnam said he’s going to spend around, maybe.

223 00:22:16.570 00:22:25.420 Awaish Kumar: 15 hours for all the engineering work, and I assume most of it is going to be on urban streams.

224 00:22:26.310 00:22:27.560 Amber Lin: Yeah, I see.

225 00:22:30.000 00:22:31.260 Amber Lin: Makes sense.

226 00:22:31.720 00:22:38.530 Amber Lin: 15 now, he has some… he’s not really doing default work, so maybe more than 12.5.

227 00:22:38.840 00:22:41.669 Amber Lin: Yeah, we’ll see. I don’t know who’s hours.

228 00:22:42.070 00:22:47.270 Amber Lin: Action items… Check with Tom….

229 00:22:49.910 00:22:52.269 Awaish Kumar: 12.5 is what, ….

230 00:22:53.330 00:22:56.460 Amber Lin: Is it 12.55 hours? Is that too low?

231 00:22:58.480 00:23:02.850 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, like, it can be… easily be, like, 8 to 10.

232 00:23:03.450 00:23:15.000 Amber Lin: Okay, so I… let’s… Double that… Let’s make it… Okay.

233 00:23:23.880 00:23:26.040 Awaish Kumar: We can move Kao, right?

234 00:23:26.610 00:23:30.769 Amber Lin: Yeah, we removed, because he has to replace Kaio, essentially.

235 00:23:31.010 00:23:31.870 Amber Lin: Ugh.

236 00:23:36.260 00:23:37.300 Amber Lin: Alright.

237 00:23:39.270 00:23:40.959 Awaish Kumar: Years ago, yeah.

238 00:23:51.200 00:23:52.240 Amber Lin: Okay.

239 00:23:53.720 00:23:54.840 Amber Lin: Alright.

240 00:23:55.350 00:23:57.970 Amber Lin: What else is left? Oh, we have defaults.

241 00:23:58.980 00:23:59.870 Amber Lin: Okay.

242 00:24:01.840 00:24:06.199 Amber Lin: Insomnia cookies, let’s look at that.

243 00:24:08.480 00:24:12.660 Amber Lin: I have spent more than 5 hours there.

244 00:24:12.990 00:24:14.100 Amber Lin: …

245 00:24:18.520 00:24:24.399 Amber Lin: Oh, okay. I think we have, like… 10, 15 minutes left.

246 00:24:24.930 00:24:27.499 Amber Lin: So, insomnia cookies.

247 00:24:28.030 00:24:29.770 Amber Lin: Has been…

248 00:24:45.100 00:24:45.970 Amber Lin: Okay.

249 00:24:46.790 00:24:47.740 Amber Lin: So…

250 00:24:55.370 00:24:57.300 Amber Lin: 5 hours, actually.

251 00:24:57.770 00:24:58.630 Amber Lin: Bye.

252 00:24:59.230 00:25:10.640 Amber Lin: Je vous… DC has been spending… 9 hours… Week.

253 00:25:11.850 00:25:14.150 Amber Lin: Mustafa…

254 00:25:22.430 00:25:24.290 Amber Lin: Like, 2.5.

255 00:25:27.620 00:25:28.510 Amber Lin: Okay.

256 00:25:28.720 00:25:39.150 Amber Lin: So, our allocations for insomnia, I think when we did it… we had… Gosh.

257 00:25:39.500 00:25:44.330 Amber Lin: Ugh, we did not include them. Okay, let me add Casey.

258 00:25:56.850 00:25:58.650 Amber Lin: End of September…

259 00:26:01.680 00:26:08.169 Amber Lin: So crazy with… I feel like Casey still spends, like, 10 hours a week on insomnia cookies.

260 00:26:08.760 00:26:12.439 Amber Lin: … So that would be…

261 00:26:16.150 00:26:17.580 Amber Lin: 20%?

262 00:26:17.990 00:26:19.600 Amber Lin: Let’s see, 20%.

263 00:26:27.550 00:26:28.920 Amber Lin: …

264 00:26:33.110 00:26:35.550 Amber Lin: No, that’s 25, my bad.

265 00:26:38.000 00:26:38.670 Amber Lin: Okay.

266 00:26:44.120 00:26:48.859 Amber Lin: I think we should just have Casey work there, right, not Mustafa.

267 00:26:53.550 00:26:58.540 Amber Lin: on… Tell me, or I…

268 00:27:06.280 00:27:07.570 Amber Lin: Schaffer.

269 00:27:10.690 00:27:14.520 Amber Lin: English first… Last….

270 00:27:15.810 00:27:17.390 Awaish Kumar: Okay.

271 00:27:17.940 00:27:19.440 Amber Lin: Like, 5%?

272 00:27:22.840 00:27:23.450 Amber Lin: Okay.

273 00:27:25.280 00:27:28.060 Amber Lin: 5% is, like, 2 hours total.

274 00:27:31.870 00:27:32.420 Awaish Kumar: Oh, okay.

275 00:27:32.880 00:27:34.630 Amber Lin: Just keep it there.

276 00:27:35.290 00:27:36.400 Amber Lin: ….

277 00:27:36.400 00:27:41.780 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, but, like, on, on this client, Casey is the, like.

278 00:27:42.170 00:27:45.280 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, he’s the main engineer. Primary, primary engineer, yeah.

279 00:27:47.660 00:27:49.090 Amber Lin: Oh, dear.

280 00:27:49.210 00:27:53.230 Amber Lin: Okay, we need to edit his internal work hours.

281 00:28:01.770 00:28:03.429 Awaish Kumar: And for, ….

282 00:28:05.810 00:28:08.739 Awaish Kumar: I created… created a ticket today of….

283 00:28:09.260 00:28:10.100 Amber Lin: Alright.

284 00:28:11.400 00:28:20.560 Awaish Kumar: Like, who… Like, I didn’t… I couldn’t join the, like, stand-up, but yeah, this is… We had some…

285 00:28:20.770 00:28:23.780 Awaish Kumar: Ticket, which is going to help, …

286 00:28:23.930 00:28:27.550 Awaish Kumar: with insomnia as well. I assigned it to Casey.

287 00:28:28.120 00:28:29.350 Amber Lin: Hmm, okay.

288 00:28:30.530 00:28:37.119 Amber Lin: So… Is Kate? Oh, that’s Mustafa, never mind.

289 00:28:37.320 00:28:40.850 Amber Lin: Default, ABC….

290 00:28:41.500 00:28:42.510 Awaish Kumar: Wait….

291 00:28:43.050 00:28:46.910 Amber Lin: Whatever doesn’t spend 12.5 on ABC.

292 00:28:48.060 00:28:49.290 Amber Lin: Does he?

293 00:28:56.050 00:29:01.290 Amber Lin: Look at 5 hours on… There’s 5R, you see…

294 00:29:05.100 00:29:06.200 Amber Lin: Interesting.

295 00:29:07.210 00:29:08.240 Amber Lin: Okay.

296 00:29:20.890 00:29:24.839 Amber Lin: And on default… Let’s see…

297 00:29:32.400 00:29:33.290 Amber Lin: Okay.

298 00:29:47.110 00:29:48.290 Amber Lin: Alright.

299 00:29:49.390 00:29:51.959 Amber Lin: Okay, seems like how it’s spending.

300 00:29:52.290 00:29:55.139 Amber Lin: The other half, as allocated.

301 00:29:55.620 00:29:58.299 Amber Lin: Shafa’s spending a lot of time there.

302 00:29:59.230 00:30:03.470 Amber Lin: Operating… Default…

303 00:30:06.640 00:30:08.310 Amber Lin: Before…

304 00:30:27.890 00:30:30.440 Amber Lin: Okay, need to change that.

305 00:30:30.790 00:30:34.819 Amber Lin: So, I’m no longer helping on default.

306 00:30:35.680 00:30:37.220 Amber Lin: …

307 00:30:42.530 00:30:53.189 Amber Lin: And Rico… And add… Michael, how much time are you spending on default?

308 00:30:57.110 00:30:58.060 Uttam Kumaran: Hey guys.

309 00:30:58.960 00:30:59.730 Amber Lin: Hi!

310 00:30:59.950 00:31:03.000 Amber Lin: We’re just going over project by project.

311 00:31:03.200 00:31:03.800 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

312 00:31:04.130 00:31:14.839 Amber Lin: We’re on default right now. Nicole, I don’t think you logged hours for default, but how much time do you spend on default?

313 00:31:15.090 00:31:18.390 Rico Rejoso: Not much, … 2 hours.

314 00:31:19.050 00:31:20.879 Amber Lin: hours a week? Okay.

315 00:31:21.500 00:31:26.749 Amber Lin: … That would be about 5%.

316 00:31:28.150 00:31:29.000 Amber Lin: …

317 00:31:33.720 00:31:34.750 Amber Lin: Okay.

318 00:31:36.340 00:31:42.880 Amber Lin: And Utum, do you also still spend… like… 5 hours on default.

319 00:31:45.180 00:31:53.649 Uttam Kumaran: … it’s… How much is 5? Yeah, 5 hours. How much is 5%?

320 00:31:54.010 00:31:56.680 Amber Lin: 5% to… 2 hours.

321 00:31:58.640 00:31:59.330 Uttam Kumaran: Oh.

322 00:32:00.480 00:32:02.040 Amber Lin: Yeah. ….

323 00:32:02.110 00:32:05.039 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I probably spend anywhere from 5…

324 00:32:05.800 00:32:10.610 Uttam Kumaran: to 10 hours on default. I would probably put 10 hours, and I can go get under that.

325 00:32:23.900 00:32:24.670 Amber Lin: Okay.

326 00:32:25.530 00:32:26.540 Awaish Kumar: ….

327 00:32:26.540 00:32:29.890 Amber Lin: Is Henry continuing to be 20 hours total?

328 00:32:31.220 00:32:35.700 Uttam Kumaran: It depends. So, like, what, what was his, hour’s last?

329 00:32:36.240 00:32:37.260 Uttam Kumaran: …

330 00:32:38.250 00:32:48.369 Uttam Kumaran: Can we look at hours last month for him? Because he was both on default and Eden. I don’t have visibility into his Eden hours, but he’s spending roughly, like, 10 hours a week.

331 00:32:48.580 00:32:54.389 Uttam Kumaran: on default max, so that’s probably what I would give guidance-wise on, on, ….

332 00:32:54.660 00:33:13.250 Amber Lin: So, this is so far, so it’s been around 3 weeks and 2 days into August. On default, he’s spending, like, 5 hours per week, and on Eden, he’s spending around, like, I would say 15, 15-ish.

333 00:33:13.590 00:33:15.010 Amber Lin: Hours per week.

334 00:33:15.570 00:33:17.720 Uttam Kumaran: You didn’t… default is gonna kick up.

335 00:33:17.940 00:33:20.669 Uttam Kumaran: So I would probably put 10 hours is my expectation.

336 00:33:21.170 00:33:21.760 Amber Lin: Okay.

337 00:33:21.760 00:33:29.710 Uttam Kumaran: We’re, we’re, for context, probably for Straya and Awash, we’re… they have Amplitude implemented,

338 00:33:29.870 00:33:31.370 Uttam Kumaran: And we are just…

339 00:33:31.650 00:33:46.540 Uttam Kumaran: telling them to fire off a bunch of new events, and then he’s gonna sort of do some measurement of flows. I think this is where I’m kind of hopeful that he can put something together, and then, Shrey, I’ll probably loop you in, you can… we can kind of do a review of his work there.

340 00:33:46.680 00:33:51.209 Uttam Kumaran: They have no reporting on their product, like.

341 00:33:51.410 00:34:03.349 Uttam Kumaran: new user funnel, like, anything. So there’s, like, it’s completely, completely greenfield in terms of what we can do. I think the biggest sort of help I need is, like, I don’t know

342 00:34:03.860 00:34:09.610 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know what our process would be for, like, setting up weekly or bi-weekly, like.

343 00:34:09.920 00:34:22.589 Uttam Kumaran: review… business reviews, because we can get the CEO, the CTO, head of product in a room and show them all the stuff about their product. I would love Henry to lead that, I just think he would need some guidance on, like.

344 00:34:23.210 00:34:24.489 Uttam Kumaran: How to do that.

345 00:34:25.310 00:34:38.009 Shreya Chowdhury: Okay, yeah, sounds good. I’m happy to onboard onto that. I’m just gonna work on finishing up the data tracking plan for Ellie, and then maybe we can follow up.

346 00:34:38.750 00:34:39.649 Uttam Kumaran: Totally, okay.

347 00:34:39.659 00:34:42.509 Amber Lin: Hmm, so should I add Shreya as well?

348 00:34:43.060 00:34:44.790 Uttam Kumaran: I think probably just, like.

349 00:34:44.969 00:34:58.410 Uttam Kumaran: I would say a few hours, … Okay. Like, this I sort of bucket into, like, just, like, helping our product analytics deliverable across the board, whether it’s for default, Ellie, Eden.

350 00:34:58.520 00:35:01.239 Uttam Kumaran: So I don’t know whether that gets billed.

351 00:35:01.640 00:35:04.070 Uttam Kumaran: Toward the client, or if you want to bill that towards…

352 00:35:04.450 00:35:07.059 Uttam Kumaran: Brain Forge, I guess, like, what do you think, Amber?

353 00:35:08.230 00:35:09.570 Amber Lin: I think….

354 00:35:09.570 00:35:15.579 Uttam Kumaran: Like, what… like, your PM stuff, you… it just gets built to Brainforge, right? Like, PMOps stuff?

355 00:35:16.010 00:35:24.490 Amber Lin: I’ll put it on the PM internal project so I can know where my time’s going to. It’s best if we just say it under the client.

356 00:35:24.750 00:35:35.740 Amber Lin: Okay. Your opinion, for my purposes, maybe for finance is different, but I would like it to be under here, so we can see, oh, okay, this is how project time has been broken down.

357 00:35:37.380 00:35:38.040 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

358 00:35:38.700 00:35:39.929 Amber Lin: Yeah. ….

359 00:35:39.930 00:35:40.440 Uttam Kumaran: Oops.

360 00:35:41.210 00:35:46.469 Amber Lin: Shreya, are you on operating yet? I don’t think I can find you.

361 00:35:46.890 00:35:50.659 Shreya Chowdhury: … no, I might not be.

362 00:35:50.890 00:35:51.400 Rico Rejoso: Not yet.

363 00:35:52.240 00:35:59.420 Shreya Chowdhury: But it… you can feel free to send me a link or whatever, however I…

364 00:35:59.540 00:36:03.019 Shreya Chowdhury: need to onboard. I don’t think I got that one yet.

365 00:36:13.030 00:36:16.530 Amber Lin: I would say… is it, like, 2 hours per week? 5 hours per week?

366 00:36:17.640 00:36:20.390 Uttam Kumaran: I would probably do…

367 00:36:21.410 00:36:37.620 Uttam Kumaran: It’s just all so small time. I mean, I would say if, Shreya, if you’re just checking over Henry’s work, then I feel like 2 hours a week is probably all you need there. I think what we can do is let’s do 2 hours. If you think that, like, hey, I’m gonna have to be spending more time

368 00:36:37.790 00:36:44.519 Uttam Kumaran: guiding Henry on this, then, we can expand it. I kind of want you to focus on

369 00:36:45.070 00:36:46.790 Uttam Kumaran: be, …

370 00:36:47.090 00:36:52.359 Uttam Kumaran: other active clients. If you have time, I would put it there. But I kind of want to…

371 00:36:52.620 00:36:59.559 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t want to have you take on the work, because then I want to sort of empower Henry a bit, and have him sort of learn a little bit about the processes.

372 00:37:00.130 00:37:11.409 Shreya Chowdhury: Yeah, sounds good. I feel like if it’s just, like, weighing in and trying to guide, 2 hours is a good start, and then if it feels insufficient, then we can talk about it.

373 00:37:12.130 00:37:12.670 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

374 00:37:13.220 00:37:24.749 Amber Lin: Yeah. If we bump up Henry’s time, then he has, he will probably need around 30 hours, because he’s spending…

375 00:37:25.170 00:37:29.249 Amber Lin: I think right now, 15 on Eden and 5 on…

376 00:37:29.590 00:37:36.250 Amber Lin: 5 on default. If we bump default up to 10, then he at least needs 25 hours per week.

377 00:37:37.340 00:37:42.699 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so I’m planning on… this is something that I was gonna talk to Awash about, but I’m planning on doing…

378 00:37:43.090 00:37:48.009 Uttam Kumaran: a review with Henry, ideally ended this week or early next week.

379 00:37:48.190 00:37:53.839 Uttam Kumaran: Where I can… I’m gonna see, if we can get him… bump him up in hours.

380 00:37:54.000 00:37:56.040 Uttam Kumaran: So I would just allocate

381 00:37:56.160 00:38:02.579 Uttam Kumaran: Based on the client need, and then at the end of this meeting, we can put an action item, and I can take that on and confirm that.

382 00:38:24.010 00:38:30.620 Amber Lin: Oh, by the way, I… since you joined a little bit later, here’s the Eden hours.

383 00:38:31.360 00:38:36.209 Amber Lin: Annie, so right now, it’s about 3.3 weeks.

384 00:38:36.370 00:38:37.440 Amber Lin: …

385 00:38:38.080 00:38:47.740 Amber Lin: I’m spending around 11 hours per week, which is at 13, I have no clue, Henry’s at 15, and Annie is at 37.

386 00:38:47.960 00:38:52.379 Amber Lin: So, I think most people here are good on…

387 00:38:52.560 00:38:58.309 Amber Lin: Based on their August allocations, which is above, but…

388 00:38:58.860 00:39:01.970 Amber Lin: We want to limit any time.

389 00:39:02.420 00:39:04.690 Amber Lin: Don’t know about them at this time.

390 00:39:05.420 00:39:06.740 Amber Lin: And…

391 00:39:10.720 00:39:20.120 Amber Lin: And then, wanting to check in on… If Henry is spending his… his time, cause…

392 00:39:20.370 00:39:24.059 Amber Lin: On non-ticketed work, because it’s the… his tickets…

393 00:39:25.610 00:39:29.360 Amber Lin: don’t seem… I wish that it doesn’t seem to take that long.

394 00:39:29.480 00:39:36.930 Amber Lin: Also might need to bump Oasis Hours up a little, a little bit on Eden to cover whatever Vrashev is doing.

395 00:39:37.780 00:39:43.680 Amber Lin: Are we getting anyone new? I know Robert doesn’t want to have new engineers on Eden.

396 00:39:44.680 00:39:46.430 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, it’s just gonna go to Awash.

397 00:39:47.310 00:39:48.130 Amber Lin: So, Bosch?

398 00:39:48.130 00:39:53.040 Uttam Kumaran: time’s gonna go to Awash. I think for Annie, we need to… …

399 00:39:53.410 00:39:58.710 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, my goal is for 20 hours, so I think our… I think our job

400 00:39:59.580 00:40:03.610 Uttam Kumaran: either during this meeting or at some point, is I wanna… I wanna take a look at

401 00:40:04.130 00:40:08.450 Uttam Kumaran: The tickets, and, like, how many points went into the tickets, and…

402 00:40:08.800 00:40:11.959 Uttam Kumaran: like, I kind of want to get an approval from

403 00:40:12.260 00:40:17.739 Uttam Kumaran: from you, Amber, you and Awash, on how much time is actually necessary for her scope.

404 00:40:19.660 00:40:29.070 Uttam Kumaran: like, if she has 30 tickets, then yeah, of course you have to spend 40 hours, but I do want to know, like, did she have 15 tickets last month?

405 00:40:29.480 00:40:31.660 Uttam Kumaran: How many points were they, and, like.

406 00:40:32.100 00:40:37.570 Uttam Kumaran: how long… and Awash can give a guidance on how long it should have taken. ….

407 00:40:41.420 00:40:42.100 Amber Lin: Okay.

408 00:40:42.670 00:40:43.610 Amber Lin: ….

409 00:40:43.610 00:40:44.329 Uttam Kumaran: Does that make sense?

410 00:40:44.740 00:40:48.369 Amber Lin: Yeah, that makes sense. I think…

411 00:40:48.960 00:40:56.120 Amber Lin: We can estimate for this sprint. For the last sprint, some of them are missing estimates. We can do a backfill.

412 00:40:56.360 00:41:01.450 Amber Lin: with me and… just me and Wish, to see how much she spent.

413 00:41:02.630 00:41:09.180 Amber Lin: she was spending time on. … Let’s go for the…

414 00:41:21.900 00:41:23.160 Amber Lin: …

415 00:41:31.470 00:41:35.810 Amber Lin: And then for Interlude… Interlude is wrapping up, right?

416 00:41:40.710 00:41:42.010 Amber Lin: Project…

417 00:41:46.490 00:41:48.980 Amber Lin: Utam, are you spending any time on Interlude?

418 00:41:51.130 00:41:54.130 Uttam Kumaran: Like, an hour a week, probably, so not much.

419 00:42:06.420 00:42:09.519 Amber Lin: Okay, Mustafa’s spending about 40 hours.

420 00:42:10.860 00:42:17.000 Amber Lin: There… let’s see… Eden, insomnia, interlude.

421 00:42:17.540 00:42:18.260 Amber Lin: Okay.

422 00:42:19.410 00:42:28.520 Amber Lin: So, for September, Is Sam still spending… how much time should Sam spend in… How much….

423 00:42:28.520 00:42:29.480 Uttam Kumaran: ….

424 00:42:29.630 00:42:30.529 Amber Lin: It’s pending.

425 00:42:31.100 00:42:37.600 Uttam Kumaran: I would say Sam’s probably most of his time… currently, he’s budgeted at 20 hours. I thought most of his time is going towards

426 00:42:37.900 00:42:40.310 Uttam Kumaran: internal and ABC.

427 00:42:40.630 00:42:41.160 Amber Lin: That’s true.

428 00:42:41.160 00:42:45.920 Uttam Kumaran: And then… he’s kind of floating across all of our other AI clients, right?

429 00:42:50.470 00:42:54.409 Uttam Kumaran: So I guess it’s… what do you think about ABC? Like, is he taking on tickets there?

430 00:42:54.990 00:42:56.550 Amber Lin: No, not yet.

431 00:42:56.910 00:43:01.170 Amber Lin: I booked a meeting tomorrow for the database, I want him to…

432 00:43:01.380 00:43:06.320 Amber Lin: Take some work there. The other parts, Casey has been owning.

433 00:43:07.560 00:43:08.190 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

434 00:43:08.950 00:43:14.140 Amber Lin: Yeah, I… I think if we want Sam to take on more tickets, I need to…

435 00:43:14.750 00:43:18.819 Amber Lin: Ask him more clearly to show up at stand-ups?

436 00:43:19.020 00:43:29.890 Amber Lin: sometimes he’s not there, but I haven’t set the clear expectations, so it’s understandable, so I will… ….

437 00:43:31.310 00:43:35.470 Uttam Kumaran: So, one action item to me is, like, yeah, I would like him to start to…

438 00:43:35.650 00:43:40.800 Uttam Kumaran: basically take on the… I kind of… there’s some heavier stuff on ABC that

439 00:43:40.960 00:43:45.770 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t think Casey is gonna be able to do alone, so he should start getting assigned tickets there.

440 00:43:46.620 00:43:50.110 Uttam Kumaran: start to lead that side from the AI perspective.

441 00:43:50.510 00:43:51.700 Amber Lin: Okay.

442 00:43:52.710 00:43:54.010 Amber Lin: …

443 00:43:57.230 00:44:04.290 Amber Lin: So, default, if… If Mustafa is spending…

444 00:44:04.650 00:44:11.890 Amber Lin: like, 41 hours per week. Oh, sorry, so far. That’s around, like.

445 00:44:13.620 00:44:14.700 Awaish Kumar: 10 to 12.

446 00:44:14.700 00:44:18.070 Amber Lin: Ours… per week.

447 00:44:18.730 00:44:23.729 Amber Lin: Which is going to be, I think, Like, 30%.

448 00:44:26.870 00:44:28.099 Amber Lin: Of his time.

449 00:44:28.860 00:44:33.599 Amber Lin: … And then… Shouldn’t say 5.

450 00:44:33.600 00:44:38.709 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, he’s split… he’s… he’s split between… Yeah, these three.

451 00:44:41.010 00:44:44.800 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, and I don’t know if he’s spending any time on insomnia at this point, right? I don’t know.

452 00:44:45.040 00:44:54.209 Amber Lin: No, I… essentially, for next month, I said he doesn’t… like, I’ll have him there for redundancy, just in case. …

453 00:44:55.500 00:45:04.580 Amber Lin: So that their holidays don’t overlap, but it’s, mostly… He’s on default, and Interlude.

454 00:45:05.420 00:45:06.150 Amber Lin: Yeah.

455 00:45:07.480 00:45:11.880 Amber Lin: Okay, for pool parts, Miguel’s gone, so is anyone doing pool parts work?

456 00:45:12.390 00:45:13.720 Amber Lin: When they come up.

457 00:45:14.710 00:45:16.200 Uttam Kumaran: It’s just me.

458 00:45:18.510 00:45:20.990 Uttam Kumaran: So you can just… I mean…

459 00:45:21.740 00:45:23.900 Uttam Kumaran: I’m kind of spending maybe, like.

460 00:45:25.150 00:45:27.050 Uttam Kumaran: You can just put 5 hours a week.

461 00:45:29.310 00:45:35.790 Uttam Kumaran: I’m not… I’m really not spending that, I guess, but I just want to have it bucketed, because this should be a flag for us, like, I kind of…

462 00:45:36.030 00:45:41.749 Uttam Kumaran: … I just want… someone else should come on and sort of take this over for me.

463 00:45:52.490 00:45:53.860 Amber Lin: 4 parts…

464 00:46:02.990 00:46:07.840 Amber Lin: On pool parts, okay, let’s check the hours so far.

465 00:46:08.440 00:46:13.560 Amber Lin: on pool parts… Huh.

466 00:46:14.550 00:46:15.870 Amber Lin: I don’t see it.

467 00:46:17.620 00:46:19.969 Amber Lin: Have we done any work for them this month?

468 00:46:20.330 00:46:21.260 Amber Lin: Oh, but because it’s.

469 00:46:21.260 00:46:22.050 Uttam Kumaran: Sweated.

470 00:46:22.220 00:46:23.000 Amber Lin: there wasn’t.

471 00:46:23.000 00:46:26.450 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I did a little work, but… I will…

472 00:46:26.690 00:46:28.960 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll go back and put some hours there.

473 00:46:29.090 00:46:32.859 Uttam Kumaran: But otherwise, no. So it’s, like, most… it’s, like, mostly margin.

474 00:46:33.150 00:46:35.769 Uttam Kumaran: Because what I did is I signed them to a minimum retainer.

475 00:46:36.030 00:46:41.000 Uttam Kumaran: Because their stuff is really on or off, like, sometimes they need a lot of stuff, sometimes they don’t need anything, so….

476 00:46:41.000 00:46:46.530 Amber Lin: Huh? I hear you, okay. And then… on…

477 00:46:46.750 00:46:56.350 Amber Lin: Before we go to Ellie, how much do you think Demolat is doing on Urban Stems? Like, based on what you see, what tickets are assigned to him?

478 00:46:58.340 00:47:05.140 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, this is a good question, like, I also don’t know… I mean, he’s only on those two clients.

479 00:47:06.380 00:47:19.389 Uttam Kumaran: And I’ve… I kind of felt like… I don’t know, I feel like he’s doing… he’s getting his tickets done, but I’m gonna start… I can start getting more… like, I think I also want to do…

480 00:47:19.960 00:47:25.470 Uttam Kumaran: We kind of just… again, there’s supposed to be… have to be a method for us to bubble this feedback up that isn’t just, like.

481 00:47:26.160 00:47:31.879 Uttam Kumaran: me pinging people, so ideally, I kind of want to do another monthly review with him and talk about

482 00:47:32.040 00:47:38.970 Uttam Kumaran: like… how is productivity? But also, in that… in those meetings, I want to go through

483 00:47:39.130 00:47:44.010 Uttam Kumaran: Tickets and hours, and sort of have people sort of look at their work and say, like.

484 00:47:44.200 00:47:48.469 Uttam Kumaran: this was roughly accurate, or I didn’t get a chance to do enough, or…

485 00:47:48.760 00:47:54.530 Uttam Kumaran: This isn’t that… this… this isn’t accurate, … So, I think…

486 00:47:54.710 00:48:02.190 Uttam Kumaran: For me, it’s clear that we need to do this for… … for Annie, Henry, and, …

487 00:48:03.040 00:48:06.969 Uttam Kumaran: Demolade, like, ASAP, so me and Awash can probably do that.

488 00:48:07.280 00:48:08.200 Uttam Kumaran: …

489 00:48:08.960 00:48:13.609 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, or I’m open to other people being in there, like, I don’t know, what do you guys think is best, like.

490 00:48:14.110 00:48:16.059 Uttam Kumaran: Amber, you could be there….

491 00:48:17.150 00:48:24.980 Amber Lin: I could be, but I’m interfacing with them every single day, so I could prepare my feedback beforehand, and…

492 00:48:25.190 00:48:26.730 Amber Lin: Like, if you…

493 00:48:26.930 00:48:37.550 Amber Lin: like, I just want them to be able to talk about, oh, the PM didn’t assign, like, accurate estimates. I was like, maybe they can say that if I’m not there.

494 00:48:41.070 00:48:43.189 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know. Yeah, I think that’s fine.

495 00:48:43.190 00:48:45.030 Amber Lin: Help repair it, though.

496 00:48:45.030 00:48:48.380 Uttam Kumaran: I think what I’m gonna do is I’m kinda gonna do a couple things. One, it’s like.

497 00:48:48.730 00:48:51.550 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna spend the first part asking their feedback.

498 00:48:51.660 00:48:53.419 Amber Lin: So, feedback on….

499 00:48:53.420 00:48:59.360 Uttam Kumaran: their own work, Feedback on the teams that they’re working on, and feedback on the company.

500 00:48:59.860 00:49:07.820 Uttam Kumaran: Then, I think I’m gonna ask… I’m gonna share… feedback from the teams.

501 00:49:08.050 00:49:14.479 Uttam Kumaran: Like, the leads on the teams they’re working on, which would ideally be this crew, and then also feedback from me.

502 00:49:14.790 00:49:22.929 Uttam Kumaran: And then I want to do that… the only facts we have, really, to reflect on are the feedback, and the hours, and the tickets, right? Like.

503 00:49:23.190 00:49:26.880 Uttam Kumaran: Otherwise, I don’t… that’s… those are, like, the things that I want to sort of be, like.

504 00:49:27.180 00:49:30.120 Uttam Kumaran: Well, here is… here is… here it is, right?

505 00:49:32.480 00:49:33.700 Amber Lin: Yeah, I see.

506 00:49:35.640 00:49:36.460 Amber Lin: Okay.

507 00:49:37.520 00:49:39.410 Amber Lin: When do you need that bye?

508 00:49:41.180 00:49:42.570 Uttam Kumaran: Like, Friday? It’d be great.

509 00:49:42.570 00:49:43.250 Amber Lin: Okay.

510 00:49:43.560 00:49:44.230 Amber Lin: Okay.

511 00:49:46.050 00:49:47.230 Amber Lin: ….

512 00:49:49.210 00:49:51.610 Awaish Kumar: Do you want me to schedule?

513 00:49:54.270 00:50:01.620 Uttam Kumaran: I would like that, … I mean… You wanna do Friday?

514 00:50:02.960 00:50:07.570 Uttam Kumaran: I would… yeah, I think let’s… let’s… let’s… let’s create the notion first.

515 00:50:08.490 00:50:11.390 Awaish Kumar: Okay. I just wanna get it right. I don’t wanna….

516 00:50:11.940 00:50:13.950 Uttam Kumaran: Show up and botch it, so….

517 00:50:14.370 00:50:14.950 Amber Lin: Yeah.

518 00:50:15.420 00:50:16.320 Amber Lin: Okay.

519 00:50:16.950 00:50:27.559 Amber Lin: … Alright… are you spending 10 hours on Urban STEMs each week?

520 00:50:29.130 00:50:30.359 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, definitely.

521 00:50:30.750 00:50:31.430 Amber Lin: Okay.

522 00:50:33.750 00:50:38.400 Amber Lin: You have very little time left over.

523 00:50:40.150 00:50:44.679 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’m not spending… well… Well, what is product analytics?

524 00:50:44.850 00:50:47.779 Uttam Kumaran: I’m not doing that, I’m not doing anything on default, really.

525 00:50:48.160 00:50:48.880 Amber Lin: Oh.

526 00:50:49.120 00:50:52.510 Amber Lin: Oh, I thought you said you were spending, like, 10 hours on default.

527 00:50:52.910 00:50:57.479 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, no, I’m spending, like… Probably 30 minutes a day.

528 00:50:58.330 00:50:59.149 Amber Lin: I see.

529 00:51:01.320 00:51:02.820 Uttam Kumaran: What does that get us to?

530 00:51:03.190 00:51:04.270 Amber Lin: 6%.

531 00:51:05.810 00:51:07.709 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that’s probably accurate.

532 00:51:08.640 00:51:10.240 Amber Lin: Okay, that’s better.

533 00:51:11.250 00:51:19.460 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, like, I don’t think this is entirely… I guess, like, I’m… I mean, yeah. If we don’t have sales or hiring in here, then yeah, basically this is probably accurate.

534 00:51:20.270 00:51:28.500 Amber Lin: Yeah, so I think half of your time is on… Engineering, because there’s default, interlude, Poolports, urban stems.

535 00:51:31.150 00:51:31.990 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

536 00:51:32.700 00:51:33.300 Amber Lin: Yeah.

537 00:51:35.010 00:51:38.710 Amber Lin: Do you have a goal of how much engineering should be?

538 00:51:39.900 00:51:41.950 Uttam Kumaran: Like, zero.

539 00:51:42.210 00:51:42.870 Amber Lin: Okay.

540 00:51:43.380 00:51:45.889 Uttam Kumaran: Nice. I don’t know, I mean…

541 00:51:46.150 00:51:51.910 Uttam Kumaran: that’s my goal, like, if… the only reason I’m on these clients is because we don’t have

542 00:51:52.630 00:52:02.570 Uttam Kumaran: the support, I mean, what… something is about, like, what we can control versus not, right? Like, if I think about Robert’s allocation, Shreya onboarding directly impacts that.

543 00:52:02.800 00:52:03.439 Uttam Kumaran: By.

544 00:52:03.830 00:52:09.030 Uttam Kumaran: for us, like, Kayo and Vashta leaving Pulls me back in.

545 00:52:09.140 00:52:13.369 Uttam Kumaran: So… but, however, it’s like, is it bad? I don’t know, like…

546 00:52:13.580 00:52:16.099 Uttam Kumaran: Urban Stems, I think, is gonna get a lot better.

547 00:52:16.670 00:52:22.130 Uttam Kumaran: I also think I’m, like, pretty efficient, so I’m doing the work in, like, probably 2 or 3 times faster.

548 00:52:22.730 00:52:27.020 Uttam Kumaran: … I don’t think it can get beyond this.

549 00:52:29.020 00:52:33.649 Uttam Kumaran: And… I also think the goal is zero, because I have to just go to sell.

550 00:52:34.270 00:52:43.920 Amber Lin: Okay, understood. … Should we alloc… I do think we just copied allocations for the internal team. …

551 00:52:44.270 00:52:53.310 Amber Lin: the only… thing, because I remember you said we want to… Cap the marketing team’s hours?

552 00:52:54.300 00:52:57.390 Amber Lin: Is… let me check if it’s reflected here.

553 00:52:58.240 00:53:01.240 Amber Lin: … And Spain.

554 00:53:01.350 00:53:02.760 Amber Lin: 20 hours.

555 00:53:03.910 00:53:10.129 Amber Lin: And then Hannah spends 60% of her, I guess, 30 or 40 hours.

556 00:53:10.400 00:53:15.210 Amber Lin: Is that more than the cap, or do we want Hannah also at 20?

557 00:53:16.440 00:53:17.720 Amber Lin: What’s her plan?

558 00:53:18.180 00:53:23.019 Uttam Kumaran: Hannah is… Like, so what was Hannah’s hours last month?

559 00:53:24.330 00:53:26.420 Amber Lin: Let me pull that up.

560 00:53:27.240 00:53:29.709 Amber Lin: So, right here…

561 00:53:33.060 00:53:34.050 Amber Lin: Hannah.

562 00:53:36.380 00:53:40.200 Amber Lin: This is this month, so this is… Hundreds.

563 00:53:40.200 00:53:41.169 Uttam Kumaran: 40 a week?

564 00:53:42.220 00:53:43.029 Amber Lin: 30 a week.

565 00:53:44.190 00:53:45.840 Amber Lin: Yeah.

566 00:53:45.840 00:53:46.390 Uttam Kumaran: 5 or so.

567 00:53:46.390 00:53:47.490 Amber Lin: 25.

568 00:53:49.260 00:53:52.330 Amber Lin: 45. That doesn’t make sense.

569 00:53:53.360 00:53:55.830 Uttam Kumaran: It’s probably divided by, like, 4.3, I think.

570 00:53:56.770 00:53:58.759 Amber Lin: But this is August.

571 00:53:59.230 00:54:01.180 Amber Lin: Does that make sense?

572 00:54:01.540 00:54:08.040 Amber Lin: There’s only… there’s… it’s only 3… 3 weeks in August, I don’t understand.

573 00:54:09.080 00:54:09.790 Amber Lin: Wait, I’m.

574 00:54:09.790 00:54:10.799 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know.

575 00:54:14.250 00:54:17.929 Uttam Kumaran: Hold on, I can just go.

576 00:54:18.830 00:54:21.029 Uttam Kumaran: I can go into Clockify and check.

577 00:54:21.370 00:54:22.470 Amber Lin: Yeah….

578 00:54:22.470 00:54:24.330 Uttam Kumaran: Well, Hannah was also out all last month.

579 00:54:24.330 00:54:29.989 Amber Lin: Yeah, which doesn’t… doesn’t make… doesn’t make sense. Let me check, also.

580 00:54:31.730 00:54:33.530 Uttam Kumaran: This month, it says 94.

581 00:54:34.770 00:54:35.460 Amber Lin: Huh.

582 00:54:36.830 00:54:38.629 Uttam Kumaran: Last month was 142.

583 00:54:40.030 00:54:42.499 Amber Lin: Okay, this one was…

584 00:54:46.750 00:54:48.569 Amber Lin: What’s this with Pivot?

585 00:54:51.120 00:54:52.150 Amber Lin: Okay.

586 00:54:55.020 00:54:57.439 Uttam Kumaran: Is this filtered to this month, or…?

587 00:54:58.150 00:55:00.440 Amber Lin: It should… it should be.

588 00:55:01.740 00:55:05.679 Amber Lin: Well, all the entries here are from August.

589 00:55:07.230 00:55:10.470 Amber Lin: I don’t know, let’s look at Clock… let’s just take Clockify.

590 00:55:10.470 00:55:13.780 Uttam Kumaran: Clockify says 98, and last month…

591 00:55:14.510 00:55:18.449 Uttam Kumaran: Clockify is 98 this month, or 94 this month.

592 00:55:18.950 00:55:20.989 Uttam Kumaran: 142 last month.

593 00:55:21.100 00:55:23.079 Uttam Kumaran: 101 the previous months.

594 00:55:24.320 00:55:29.910 Uttam Kumaran: So she’s hovering anywhere between… Typically, like, 100 to 120.

595 00:55:33.550 00:55:35.309 Uttam Kumaran: Which is roughly 30 hours.

596 00:55:35.750 00:55:36.450 Amber Lin: Yes.

597 00:55:37.810 00:55:38.420 Amber Lin: Is that….

598 00:55:38.420 00:55:38.790 Uttam Kumaran: ….

599 00:55:38.930 00:55:40.659 Amber Lin: Ideal, is that good?

600 00:55:40.940 00:55:44.360 Uttam Kumaran: That’s fine, yeah, because she’s also helping with sales stuff now.

601 00:55:44.580 00:55:50.780 Uttam Kumaran: So, I would… I would put her availability at… at, 30 hours a week.

602 00:55:53.210 00:55:55.720 Uttam Kumaran: And you can end up, you can end that one.

603 00:55:56.110 00:56:02.790 Uttam Kumaran: like… I would probably end this one on July, end of July.

604 00:56:03.070 00:56:05.859 Uttam Kumaran: And then have it be 30 from the start.

605 00:56:07.030 00:56:07.350 Amber Lin: Absolutely.

606 00:56:07.350 00:56:12.929 Uttam Kumaran: good reminder, though. Can you… can you also put a note in the Notion for me to, like, just confirm Hannah’s….

607 00:56:13.320 00:56:14.110 Amber Lin: Yeah.

608 00:56:14.140 00:56:15.540 Uttam Kumaran: Availability.

609 00:56:19.340 00:56:21.910 Amber Lin: Profile deployment…

610 00:56:36.230 00:56:37.590 Amber Lin: Confirm…

611 00:56:41.430 00:56:46.130 Amber Lin: And Soledad is starting on… Sales?

612 00:56:47.880 00:56:51.350 Uttam Kumaran: Yes, she has, she has 20 hours.

613 00:56:51.690 00:56:52.440 Amber Lin: Okay.

614 00:56:54.440 00:56:58.240 Amber Lin: Sorry, just before that, Hannah’s spending how much for 30?

615 00:56:59.090 00:57:04.770 Amber Lin: 0.6… Is 18 hours on… marketing.

616 00:57:05.180 00:57:11.210 Amber Lin: Is this 60%? How much is she… is she spending, like, 20 hours on?

617 00:57:12.000 00:57:13.869 Uttam Kumaran: All their time was on marketing.

618 00:57:14.410 00:57:15.990 Amber Lin: Oh, nothing on sales?

619 00:57:17.030 00:57:25.260 Uttam Kumaran: I guess… … Yeah, I guess she’s not really bucketing her time either way.

620 00:57:26.850 00:57:29.050 Uttam Kumaran: But it’s something I can ask her to do.

621 00:57:30.570 00:57:35.429 Amber Lin: That would be helpful, because we’re trying to… For each of these teams.

622 00:57:35.970 00:57:39.820 Amber Lin: Unless you want to count sales and marketing together.

623 00:57:40.950 00:57:42.550 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so I would do, …

624 00:57:45.590 00:57:50.400 Uttam Kumaran: How would it… 20 on design, 10 on sales.

625 00:57:50.610 00:57:52.370 Uttam Kumaran: And then in the Notion, you can…

626 00:57:52.850 00:57:59.340 Uttam Kumaran: I can start to tell her that that’s, like, the goal, and just… if she can, she can… …

627 00:57:59.950 00:58:01.540 Uttam Kumaran: Book her time that way.

628 00:58:02.670 00:58:03.350 Amber Lin: Okay.

629 00:58:03.630 00:58:12.430 Amber Lin: And then… sales… Alright, Hannah is spending… So…

630 00:58:21.450 00:58:22.490 Amber Lin: Great.

631 00:58:22.710 00:58:25.729 Amber Lin: I’ll ask Soledad, I don’t think she’s here yet.

632 00:58:26.150 00:58:27.840 Amber Lin: Oh, she’s already here.

633 00:58:28.090 00:58:32.390 Amber Lin: How much would she be if she’d be spending… all of her….

634 00:58:32.720 00:58:34.469 Uttam Kumaran: All of our time on sales.

635 00:58:35.390 00:58:37.140 Amber Lin: Okay, sounds good.

636 00:58:38.210 00:58:42.150 Amber Lin: Okay, I think that’s all. Any questions we want to look at?

637 00:58:44.900 00:58:46.879 Amber Lin: Let me add hours for her.

638 00:58:47.390 00:58:50.470 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, I would like to look at who is lagging…

639 00:58:52.240 00:58:55.040 Uttam Kumaran: On last month for reporting hours.

640 00:58:55.860 00:58:58.890 Amber Lin: We checked, it’s… oh, last month?

641 00:58:59.130 00:59:00.120 Amber Lin: The shake less.

642 00:59:00.120 00:59:01.740 Uttam Kumaran: Or this month, sorry, sorry, for August.

643 00:59:01.740 00:59:07.050 Amber Lin: I think it’s just Domado. I checked with, Rico earlier.

644 00:59:07.330 00:59:09.069 Amber Lin: And we’ve already sent a note.

645 00:59:10.050 00:59:10.750 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

646 00:59:11.250 00:59:11.830 Amber Lin: Yeah.

647 00:59:14.670 00:59:21.130 Uttam Kumaran: … Okay, so, hold on, there’s one more thing, ….

648 00:59:23.010 00:59:26.660 Uttam Kumaran: Hmm… I just lost it.

649 00:59:27.090 00:59:36.340 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so we set this. Is there any chance we can see… plan versus expectation for… August.

650 00:59:36.950 00:59:38.380 Uttam Kumaran: In… in operating?

651 00:59:39.200 00:59:47.419 Amber Lin: … let’s see… Don’t know. Let me try.

652 00:59:49.070 00:59:52.880 Uttam Kumaran: Like, can we look at, like, who was most off or on base?

653 00:59:54.180 00:59:56.750 Amber Lin: Capacity….

654 01:00:00.370 01:00:02.860 Uttam Kumaran: I think maybe projects? I don’t know.

655 01:00:05.640 01:00:08.009 Uttam Kumaran: If you go to filters, or….

656 01:00:10.020 01:00:12.410 Amber Lin: Yeah, client projects.

657 01:00:12.990 01:00:16.629 Uttam Kumaran: I think if you just click Filters, and then click Show Projects.

658 01:00:18.060 01:00:18.840 Amber Lin: Oh.

659 01:00:19.820 01:00:20.760 Amber Lin: There we go.

660 01:00:22.820 01:00:25.720 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, this is it, this is what I want to see. So…

661 01:00:28.510 01:00:31.930 Uttam Kumaran: I only care about June to July to August, so…

662 01:00:33.180 01:00:35.610 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s just go project by project first.

663 01:00:39.020 01:00:41.919 Uttam Kumaran: See, Urban Stems we got jammed on last month.

664 01:00:46.790 01:00:48.090 Uttam Kumaran: That’s horrible.

665 01:00:49.290 01:00:50.690 Amber Lin: Don’t lie at all. So horrible.

666 01:00:51.830 01:00:55.070 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, it’s horrible, okay. …

667 01:00:55.510 01:01:02.269 Uttam Kumaran: So, Urban Stems, Eden, and what was our goal for Eden? Remember we talked about this, I think, 2 weeks ago?

668 01:01:03.580 01:01:08.079 Uttam Kumaran: So, we have 30K, and then what… like, let me… hold on, let me just do the math real quick.

669 01:01:09.160 01:01:14.350 Uttam Kumaran: So 30… Divided by 150 should be 200.

670 01:01:17.220 01:01:21.060 Uttam Kumaran: So right now, we are at… without Robert.

671 01:01:22.040 01:01:24.120 Amber Lin: And without….

672 01:01:24.660 01:01:27.869 Uttam Kumaran: Oh my god, yeah. Well, okay, just for July, just for July.

673 01:01:30.860 01:01:32.919 Uttam Kumaran: We’re at 108 hourly.

674 01:01:33.970 01:01:34.590 Uttam Kumaran: So….

675 01:01:36.370 01:01:38.069 Uttam Kumaran: What did we see? Okay, well…

676 01:01:38.990 01:01:42.079 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, Awash, is your… are your hours accurate for Eden?

677 01:01:45.450 01:01:46.290 Awaish Kumar: Yes.

678 01:01:47.340 01:01:48.260 Uttam Kumaran: Really?

679 01:01:48.830 01:01:59.919 Awaish Kumar: like, for… not for August, right? It’s not 5… I don’t think… Yeah, for July, it’s accurate.

680 01:02:00.270 01:02:09.700 Awaish Kumar: I, like, recapped it at 10, yep. Progar, it’s not because, like, operating doesn’t seem… have, like, it synced the data from Clockify yet.

681 01:02:09.700 01:02:15.869 Uttam Kumaran: … Can you put a note there, Amber, a Notion, too? Let me… I’ll go run that pipeline, like….

682 01:02:17.470 01:02:18.470 Uttam Kumaran: Every day.

683 01:02:19.510 01:02:21.890 Uttam Kumaran: Or, like, probably, like, every 2 hours or so.

684 01:02:25.360 01:02:32.610 Amber Lin: Yeah, and if you can, the Clockify Reel, it’s also not updated, so if someone can run that….

685 01:02:32.940 01:02:38.839 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I gotta go drink… I gotta go drink, like, a massive cold brew and get all this… fix all these pipelines tonight.

686 01:02:46.320 01:02:56.049 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, okay, that’s… okay. … Interesting. So we are going to get super jammed on this.

687 01:02:57.350 01:03:00.289 Uttam Kumaran: We’re already at 2.50 hours, ugh.

688 01:03:00.400 01:03:03.510 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, alright, that’s fine, whatever, this is horrible.

689 01:03:04.030 01:03:09.390 Uttam Kumaran: Alright, this is a known horrible, we’re already talking about this, so that’s fine. Urban stems….

690 01:03:11.220 01:03:15.450 Uttam Kumaran: It’s fine, because Urban Stems, it’s gonna go to move to 10 hours a week for me.

691 01:03:16.320 01:03:18.980 Uttam Kumaran: And… like…

692 01:03:19.640 01:03:26.709 Uttam Kumaran: even if Urban Stems… so, let me look at what we need to hit on Urban STEMS hours, right? So, Urban Stems is at 13.5, right?

693 01:03:27.990 01:03:29.660 Amber Lin: Yeah. 90 hours.

694 01:03:30.000 01:03:38.350 Uttam Kumaran: So, even urban stems, we haven’t been operating Had a great thing, but… without Kayo.

695 01:03:39.600 01:03:41.380 Uttam Kumaran: We should be pretty good.

696 01:03:42.560 01:03:43.400 Amber Lin: Okay.

697 01:03:44.960 01:03:46.460 Amber Lin: So….

698 01:03:48.320 01:03:52.790 Uttam Kumaran: Like, even if I do 20 hours, and… and you and… yeah, it will be fine.

699 01:03:53.330 01:03:55.069 Uttam Kumaran: So I feel okay about that.

700 01:03:55.610 01:03:57.460 Amber Lin: Yeah, I’m probably still gonna be….

701 01:03:58.080 01:04:03.739 Uttam Kumaran: That’s fine. But I would rather the hours go to you, and yeah, okay, so…

702 01:04:03.900 01:04:07.030 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, 100 hours on this isn’t… is just incredible.

703 01:04:08.260 01:04:09.500 Amber Lin: It’s just incredible.

704 01:04:09.650 01:04:10.430 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

705 01:04:11.080 01:04:14.940 Uttam Kumaran: … What else?

706 01:04:16.200 01:04:23.510 Uttam Kumaran: So for these, … So, for the internal stuff, why isn’t it showing up for July, or….

707 01:04:24.070 01:04:24.450 Amber Lin: Such as you.

708 01:04:24.450 01:04:26.490 Uttam Kumaran: It only included client projects at the top.

709 01:04:26.800 01:04:28.900 Amber Lin: Wait, oh… Oh.

710 01:04:29.950 01:04:31.889 Uttam Kumaran: Some of these are not internal, though.

711 01:04:32.600 01:04:33.970 Amber Lin: Yeah….

712 01:04:34.250 01:04:43.560 Uttam Kumaran: Rico, can you check on those? Because some of these are… clients, like… … Where’s Pool Park? Oh.

713 01:04:44.190 01:04:44.989 Amber Lin: I think it’s correct.

714 01:04:44.990 01:04:45.360 Uttam Kumaran: Oh.

715 01:04:46.040 01:04:47.289 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, nevermind.

716 01:04:48.010 01:04:52.689 Amber Lin: Yeah, I think it was just funky. Where is ABC? I wanna look at ABC.

717 01:04:53.000 01:04:53.800 Amber Lin: Okay.

718 01:04:55.690 01:04:57.010 Amber Lin: Mmm…

719 01:05:02.060 01:05:05.019 Amber Lin: I think we still scheduled quite a bit of ours.

720 01:05:06.190 01:05:07.090 Amber Lin: Aw.

721 01:05:08.690 01:05:12.420 Uttam Kumaran: So, yeah, I mean, Annie’s no longer on this project.

722 01:05:12.690 01:05:14.659 Uttam Kumaran: Miguel is not there.

723 01:05:14.780 01:05:16.780 Uttam Kumaran: Voshev is not there.

724 01:05:19.000 01:05:23.190 Uttam Kumaran: Mustafa’s not doing much, so I really expect this to be Sam and Casey.

725 01:05:24.040 01:05:24.820 Amber Lin: Yeah.

726 01:05:24.930 01:05:27.779 Amber Lin: That’s… that’s what I scheduled as well.

727 01:05:28.300 01:05:32.250 Amber Lin: So probably I would… thanks for September.

728 01:05:32.740 01:05:38.750 Amber Lin: … How can I have it show September allocations?

729 01:05:39.580 01:05:41.360 Amber Lin: I guess not. Okay.

730 01:05:42.270 01:05:43.120 Amber Lin: Oh.

731 01:05:46.910 01:05:48.050 Amber Lin: Future?

732 01:05:51.110 01:05:52.000 Amber Lin: No.

733 01:05:55.320 01:05:59.630 Amber Lin: So, looking at… September.

734 01:06:00.400 01:06:01.600 Amber Lin: Paul?

735 01:06:06.770 01:06:10.880 Amber Lin: … Sorry, first time using this view.

736 01:06:13.220 01:06:14.230 Amber Lin: Start.

737 01:06:14.980 01:06:16.420 Amber Lin: July 1st.

738 01:06:19.860 01:06:20.610 Amber Lin: Okay.

739 01:06:26.270 01:06:32.760 Amber Lin: September… So it should drop… a bit in September.

740 01:06:32.920 01:06:36.539 Amber Lin: They can cut some… Cut some from here.

741 01:06:37.230 01:06:40.110 Amber Lin: And then… Sam and Casey…

742 01:06:40.310 01:06:45.140 Amber Lin: And I wish we’d just be watching on the side, if there’s any DE work.

743 01:06:47.020 01:06:48.669 Amber Lin: Maybe BC would be better.

744 01:06:49.830 01:06:51.690 Amber Lin: Same with urban stems.

745 01:06:52.350 01:06:55.119 Amber Lin: Just a melody, and your hours.

746 01:06:55.700 01:06:56.410 Amber Lin: Wow.

747 01:06:56.410 01:07:02.079 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so I think we talked about that with finance today, about how we can… so the hours thing will get improved?

748 01:07:02.990 01:07:08.169 Uttam Kumaran: … I mean, I want to see us really, really correct on Eden.

749 01:07:10.260 01:07:11.240 Uttam Kumaran: ….

750 01:07:11.450 01:07:16.869 Amber Lin: Sunbreed showers. Still… not that low.

751 01:07:18.930 01:07:21.900 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, like, we need a pretty… like….

752 01:07:22.220 01:07:23.940 Amber Lin: Is Stan Andrew still there?

753 01:07:23.940 01:07:24.810 Uttam Kumaran: section here.

754 01:07:26.880 01:07:29.369 Uttam Kumaran: That’s up to you or Awash, I’m sure.

755 01:07:31.940 01:07:35.800 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, like, for Andrew and, Henry, like.

756 01:07:36.150 01:07:38.440 Awaish Kumar: Most of the work is kind of…

757 01:07:40.990 01:07:44.210 Awaish Kumar: Not like with Robert, and …

758 01:07:44.610 01:07:48.460 Awaish Kumar: And that’s, like, the bare, like.

759 01:07:51.030 01:07:56.090 Awaish Kumar: Between themselves, like, it’s not in the stand-ups or regular stand-ups?

760 01:07:56.340 01:08:01.219 Awaish Kumar: So, I kind of have very… Low visibility on that.

761 01:08:09.220 01:08:10.530 Amber Lin: Yeah, I see.

762 01:08:11.280 01:08:18.060 Amber Lin: … How many hours total, we said for Eden?

763 01:08:20.760 01:08:22.069 Uttam Kumaran: 200.

764 01:08:22.840 01:08:28.560 Amber Lin: Oh… How are we even gonna get close to that?

765 01:08:30.660 01:08:32.530 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, we’re gonna get there, don’t worry.

766 01:08:32.630 01:08:35.940 Uttam Kumaran: … I mean, we’re… one is…

767 01:08:36.130 01:08:39.499 Uttam Kumaran: The first thing we need to do is look at the tickets.

768 01:08:39.890 01:08:43.629 Uttam Kumaran: Like, I need to understand Do we have…

769 01:08:44.479 01:08:47.789 Uttam Kumaran: More or less than 200 hours worth of tickets.

770 01:08:49.430 01:08:50.330 Uttam Kumaran: Right.

771 01:08:50.600 01:08:59.660 Uttam Kumaran: So, I want to look at all those, we should… we should go back, and if we need to, we can go back and do groom and post, make sure everything has points.

772 01:08:59.790 01:09:02.940 Amber Lin: And then, look, that will give us the answer.

773 01:09:03.310 01:09:03.810 Uttam Kumaran: like.

774 01:09:03.819 01:09:04.254 Awaish Kumar: So….

775 01:09:04.689 01:09:06.599 Uttam Kumaran: Who is billing over, or…?

776 01:09:07.479 01:09:16.259 Uttam Kumaran: Or, like, for example, if it’s 30, then we need to go to Robert and say, look, we… we’re currently… we need to cut 50 hours, it’s gonna come from this work stream.

777 01:09:18.560 01:09:19.500 Amber Lin: I see.

778 01:09:20.850 01:09:21.439 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

779 01:09:22.090 01:09:26.189 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, like, but, like, between Andrew, …

780 01:09:26.700 01:09:31.750 Awaish Kumar: Henry and Zoran, I suggest, like, we should have only one person.

781 01:09:32.069 01:09:34.700 Awaish Kumar: Who can… who can implement things?

782 01:09:38.040 01:09:39.450 Awaish Kumar: I’m sort of like….

783 01:09:42.760 01:09:46.170 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s gonna… I guess I’ll put the question back to you, like, who do you think it should be?

784 01:09:47.520 01:09:50.110 Uttam Kumaran: I didn’t know Zora… is Zora also helping on eating stuff?

785 01:09:51.170 01:09:54.240 Awaish Kumar: He’s not right now, but, like….

786 01:09:54.240 01:09:55.270 Amber Lin: Oh, okay.

787 01:09:56.100 01:09:59.210 Awaish Kumar: He’s not on Eden, but, like, we have him…

788 01:10:00.670 01:10:05.450 Awaish Kumar: In the company, so, like, we could see if he’s good, like, we can just…

789 01:10:05.800 01:10:08.279 Awaish Kumar: Can you place Andrew and Henry with him?

790 01:10:10.240 01:10:10.870 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

791 01:10:12.530 01:10:14.709 Uttam Kumaran: So let’s put that down as an action item.

792 01:10:16.750 01:10:23.069 Uttam Kumaran: in Notion, and… and… Awash, me and you could… I want to map out what the function is.

793 01:10:23.900 01:10:26.910 Awaish Kumar: Like, what are the functions that we’re doing for….

794 01:10:26.910 01:10:29.800 Uttam Kumaran: Eden on the… Product analytics side.

795 01:10:30.510 01:10:34.029 Uttam Kumaran: Our marketing tagging side, and then we can build a little, like.

796 01:10:34.610 01:10:36.639 Uttam Kumaran: Map of who can do what.

797 01:10:40.490 01:10:43.469 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, my ideal thing is to hand it all to Henry.

798 01:10:44.540 01:10:49.659 Uttam Kumaran: So that would be my first… that’s, like, Ideal outcome for me.

799 01:10:55.940 01:11:00.879 Uttam Kumaran: Because Andrew and Zoran, they’re not much different, like, rate-wise.

800 01:11:05.720 01:11:09.190 Awaish Kumar: Okay, like, I’ve asked, I’ve been asked, like.

801 01:11:09.540 01:11:21.130 Awaish Kumar: really a lot of questions on segment, Northcream, like, the things which he should be, like, owning. Like, he did a…

802 01:11:22.080 01:11:33.149 Awaish Kumar: asked me to do quite a few things, like, on these platforms, which we actually wanted him to do, so I’m not sure if, like, he can technically handle everything.

803 01:11:35.850 01:11:36.540 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

804 01:11:39.820 01:11:47.579 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I mean, let’s map out all the… I wanna… I don’t… I don’t know, I’m not clear to me what all the tasks are, so we’ll do a capabilities map and see.

805 01:11:48.230 01:11:49.520 Awaish Kumar: Okay.

806 01:11:50.250 01:11:52.549 Amber Lin: Let me note that down, so…

807 01:11:59.930 01:12:07.950 Amber Lin: Oh, wait… okay. So, coming out of this, seems like…

808 01:12:08.180 01:12:11.020 Amber Lin: The core thing is to…

809 01:12:11.620 01:12:30.570 Amber Lin: groom and estimate this and the past cycle for Eden, most importantly, and then a little bit… a bit for Urban Sense Project Default, and that covers the three people we want to talk with, which is Annie, Donald, and Henry. Based on that, I think we’re gonna…

810 01:12:31.490 01:12:39.939 Amber Lin: book a… Oh, meeting… Awish, I’ll find a meeting time with you tomorrow.

811 01:12:40.400 01:12:46.380 Amber Lin: … And probably Thursday to go through them.

812 01:12:46.940 01:12:48.090 Amber Lin: …

813 01:12:49.090 01:12:55.510 Amber Lin: Yeah, I’ll try… I can give a first pass with AI, and then I can double-check with you to make it faster.

814 01:12:58.790 01:12:59.370 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

815 01:13:00.040 01:13:01.160 Amber Lin: Sounds good.

816 01:13:01.510 01:13:08.910 Uttam Kumaran: how do we feel about this meeting? I guess Rico and Shreya, you guys have been quiet, so just interested in thoughts, you guys seeing this.

817 01:13:09.490 01:13:13.369 Shreya Chowdhury: Yeah, Amber was saying that, …

818 01:13:13.870 01:13:16.940 Shreya Chowdhury: This time, it was just for me to get an idea, and….

819 01:13:16.940 01:13:20.939 Uttam Kumaran: Yes, no, no, I’m just calling you, just… I’m just putting you on the spot just to see if you had any….

820 01:13:21.540 01:13:22.450 Shreya Chowdhury: Any thoughts?

821 01:13:22.450 01:13:22.889 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll say again.

822 01:13:22.890 01:13:24.050 Shreya Chowdhury: No, I was just…

823 01:13:24.430 01:13:31.469 Shreya Chowdhury: I… I guess it just helped me get an idea of, like, how I should be allocating, …

824 01:13:31.790 01:13:36.959 Shreya Chowdhury: My time across my different work streams. And then…

825 01:13:37.210 01:13:43.359 Shreya Chowdhury: I guess, you know, like, reach out if I feel like I need to dedicate more time to either

826 01:13:43.680 01:13:51.480 Shreya Chowdhury: Or to a different client, or, like, different area, whatever. And then outside of that, just stay within my limits.

827 01:13:53.490 01:14:02.799 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think overall, kind of the reason I wanted to bring sort of the engineering leads into this is you can… I kind of want us to sort of have, …

828 01:14:03.030 01:14:10.540 Uttam Kumaran: You know, a cohesive opinion on how long things take to do, and we all agree on, like, who should be assigned where.

829 01:14:11.100 01:14:11.940 Shreya Chowdhury: Yeah.

830 01:14:11.940 01:14:22.939 Uttam Kumaran: how much time, right? So, over time, I’ve… I’ve primarily, on the engineering side, made those decisions. Now Awashia’s been looped in, I think you’ll get looped in, Sam will get looped in.

831 01:14:23.100 01:14:28.659 Uttam Kumaran: And so, it’s… it’ll be really kind of nice to have you guys have opinions on

832 01:14:28.830 01:14:34.059 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, like, I know the scope for X client, it should roughly take 10 hours of so-and-so’s time.

833 01:14:34.310 01:14:40.660 Uttam Kumaran: And, like, that way we have an opinion from our side, you know, so that we can start to… and then I, again, the…

834 01:14:40.790 01:14:44.030 Uttam Kumaran: the PM team will say, well, we only have budget because they’re…

835 01:14:44.130 01:14:50.270 Uttam Kumaran: their goals will be to hit a margin target and a client happiness target. The engineering goals will be

836 01:14:50.440 01:14:53.910 Uttam Kumaran: More on the, like, timing and the…

837 01:14:54.080 01:15:00.059 Uttam Kumaran: the engineering quality, you know? So those are kind of, like, that’s the sort of optimization problem right now.

838 01:15:00.620 01:15:01.350 Shreya Chowdhury: Yeah.

839 01:15:03.180 01:15:13.040 Shreya Chowdhury: Yeah, sounds good. I think I… I don’t have, like, a great gauge of a lot of that stuff yet, but hopefully once…

840 01:15:13.240 01:15:18.269 Shreya Chowdhury: I have a little more experience, I’ll be able to have a better idea of that stuff, …

841 01:15:18.580 01:15:26.530 Shreya Chowdhury: so far in the last couple days, I only have an idea of, like, oh, like, how long data tracking planning should take, …

842 01:15:26.700 01:15:27.570 Shreya Chowdhury: Yeah.

843 01:15:31.860 01:15:40.420 Amber Lin: I think on my side, probably this week… I do have a weekly time allocations meeting with Rico, …

844 01:15:40.610 01:15:56.190 Amber Lin: I think that they probably need to be a bit more robust. I don’t think we’ve been able to show, okay, this person’s over their allocations this week. I don’t think we do that calculation. Probably that’s something I’ll ask.

845 01:15:56.310 01:16:11.419 Amber Lin: to have it on… this is where the real dashboard would be really helpful. But probably we’ll make sure that operating is syncing correctly, and then we’ll probably use operating as the place to check

846 01:16:11.520 01:16:17.100 Amber Lin: actuals versus allocated each week on Tuesday, and so…

847 01:16:17.380 01:16:22.320 Amber Lin: It feels like weekly cadence, we’re very behind when we check those out.

848 01:16:22.320 01:16:23.060 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, weird.

849 01:16:23.450 01:16:30.480 Amber Lin: Yeah, and it feels like there’s not much we can do, and if we do it, it’s such a big task, I really want this to be more frequent.

850 01:16:33.050 01:16:33.720 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

851 01:16:33.820 01:16:34.600 Amber Lin: Yep.

852 01:16:35.920 01:16:45.140 Amber Lin: I’ll start preparing the hour and tickets for the three people that we talked about later today, and then I wish I’ll grab time with you tomorrow.

853 01:16:46.060 01:16:47.259 Awaish Kumar: Okay, that’s true.

854 01:16:47.740 01:16:48.370 Amber Lin: Yep.

855 01:16:49.780 01:16:58.810 Amber Lin: … so next Monday’s Labor Day, so I don’t know if we’re still going on for… Monday.

856 01:16:59.570 01:17:03.449 Amber Lin: Some clients might be off, but I’ll check.

857 01:17:06.720 01:17:08.820 Amber Lin: Okay. Thanks, everyone.

858 01:17:09.310 01:17:10.150 Uttam Kumaran: Thank you.

859 01:17:10.550 01:17:11.740 Amber Lin: Alright, bye.