Meeting Title: Brainforge Project Manager Interview Date: 2025-08-26 Meeting participants: Ayesha Davis, Amber Lin
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1 00:04:06.590 ⇒ 00:04:08.010 Ayesha Davis: Hello!
2 00:04:09.910 ⇒ 00:04:12.140 Ayesha Davis: Hi, Amber. How are you?
3 00:04:12.140 ⇒ 00:04:13.419 Amber Lin: Nice to meet you.
4 00:04:14.090 ⇒ 00:04:18.039 Ayesha Davis: Nice to meet you! My name is Aisha, nice to meet you.
5 00:04:18.459 ⇒ 00:04:22.389 Amber Lin: Yeah, I actually just saw the Loom video that you sent in.
6 00:04:22.389 ⇒ 00:04:44.419 Amber Lin: And I know Utam wanted to schedule you for an interview today, so mostly this is a pretty quick interview just to get to know you a little bit more, and for you also to get to know us a bit more, so you can judge if this is a fitting position for you. So, I have some questions I would like to ask you, and at the end, like, we have… I want to make sure you have some space to ask us questions as well.
7 00:04:45.110 ⇒ 00:04:48.459 Ayesha Davis: Perfect. Thank you, Amber. Looking forward to it. Yeah.
8 00:04:48.930 ⇒ 00:04:55.580 Amber Lin: Awesome. I’m just gonna pull up your… LinkedIn…
9 00:04:55.790 ⇒ 00:04:58.759 Amber Lin: So that I can have it on the side.
10 00:04:59.230 ⇒ 00:05:00.190 Ayesha Davis: Fantastic.
11 00:05:01.100 ⇒ 00:05:03.830 Amber Lin: Well… And…
12 00:05:13.830 ⇒ 00:05:18.860 Amber Lin: So, I always start off my interview with the same question of,
13 00:05:19.240 ⇒ 00:05:25.300 Amber Lin: What do you… what is your career goals, and what do you want to eventually be?
14 00:05:27.070 ⇒ 00:05:40.759 Ayesha Davis: That’s a great question. I… I… I’m a… I’m a natural project manager, like, that’s what I do. I’ve had a very varied career, and, been…
15 00:05:40.850 ⇒ 00:05:47.830 Ayesha Davis: working for a long time now. So, I really…
16 00:05:48.280 ⇒ 00:05:57.049 Ayesha Davis: As far as career goals, I really want to support someone who has a clear vision. Like, I like working in small teams.
17 00:05:57.150 ⇒ 00:06:14.300 Ayesha Davis: I, want to use my project management skills to support a team that has a clear vision. I love, technology, so I was very, … I liked what… I like what Brainforge is doing. And, …
18 00:06:14.670 ⇒ 00:06:20.310 Ayesha Davis: And yeah, I just have a lot of experience, it’s very diverse, and I think I can bring it.
19 00:06:20.440 ⇒ 00:06:24.610 Ayesha Davis: So I’m looking for… a place where I can grow.
20 00:06:26.990 ⇒ 00:06:37.989 Ayesha Davis: And just contribute to. So, I’m happy staying in project management, because I’m good at it, and I enjoy it, and if I know it’s towards a
21 00:06:39.120 ⇒ 00:06:48.430 Ayesha Davis: gold, that’s good. It just comes natural, and I enjoy it. So that’s… that’s my goal. There’s no big, like, I want to…
22 00:06:48.570 ⇒ 00:07:01.360 Ayesha Davis: own my own company or anything. I already own my own small business, so I’m happy. So, yeah, I just want to apply my skills to someone who has a vision, and help them, if that makes sense.
23 00:07:01.360 ⇒ 00:07:03.390 Amber Lin: Gotcha. Yeah.
24 00:07:04.790 ⇒ 00:07:06.480 Amber Lin: Let me write that down.
25 00:07:07.480 ⇒ 00:07:21.139 Amber Lin: When you say project management, do you mean you want to manage more projects, manage a project management team, or manage more complex projects? Is there something specific there that you would like to do?
26 00:07:21.470 ⇒ 00:07:33.650 Ayesha Davis: Yeah, so right now, I am the project manager for an analytics team of, agency, of a marketing agency, and their main client is Caterpillar.
27 00:07:33.670 ⇒ 00:07:45.619 Ayesha Davis: And, it was fun when I started two years ago, because I like setting up systems, I like understanding what will work for the team,
28 00:07:45.710 ⇒ 00:07:52.920 Ayesha Davis: So… now it’s, I’ll be honest with you, it’s gotten… boring.
29 00:07:53.120 ⇒ 00:08:12.949 Ayesha Davis: So… so I like the idea of, … in my old career, like, setting up a business was lots of fun. I enjoyed setting up a business, and then before that, I was an environmental engineer, and each project was new, so you did a feasibility study, you figured it out, and …
30 00:08:13.300 ⇒ 00:08:15.969 Ayesha Davis: You figured out how you were gonna…
31 00:08:16.430 ⇒ 00:08:21.560 Ayesha Davis: Work as a team, figure out the strengths of the team, and then you work towards a goal.
32 00:08:21.630 ⇒ 00:08:40.420 Ayesha Davis: So, I guess what I’m saying is that I’m looking forward to an opportunity where there’s more diversity in the projects I’m working with, and more excitement in that. So you’re learning in each project, each project is unique and different, so…
33 00:08:40.530 ⇒ 00:08:43.940 Ayesha Davis: You’re… Learning a different…
34 00:08:44.480 ⇒ 00:08:55.110 Ayesha Davis: business, you’re learning what they need, learn… and, applying that into breaking it down into pieces so that the team can build it up.
35 00:08:55.270 ⇒ 00:09:09.029 Ayesha Davis: So, yeah, I’m just looking for more of a challenge, yes, and yeah, and also diversity. I like that it’s a new company, and that you’ll have many different clients, so that’ll be fun.
36 00:09:09.820 ⇒ 00:09:26.929 Amber Lin: Awesome. I think I just have a few questions on your past experiences. So starting with Semantel, you said that this was a marketing analytics agency. What, I guess, in one sentence, what did they hire you for?
37 00:09:28.180 ⇒ 00:09:45.479 Ayesha Davis: Yes. They hired me to get the analytics team on track, in one sentence, like, because it was all over the place, and to be able to coordinate the analytics team, the strategy team, and the media team, and just be more on track for the reports.
38 00:09:45.750 ⇒ 00:09:51.770 Amber Lin: I see. It’s on track now. Do y’all have any project management processes before you join?
39 00:09:52.330 ⇒ 00:10:00.909 Ayesha Davis: did they have any project management processes? They had… I was the first, … PMP-certified Project.
40 00:10:00.910 ⇒ 00:10:01.890 Amber Lin: Oh, okay.
41 00:10:01.890 ⇒ 00:10:07.930 Ayesha Davis: hired, so they had… they were just all over the place. They couldn’t…
42 00:10:08.220 ⇒ 00:10:10.440 Ayesha Davis: They had two people before me.
43 00:10:10.600 ⇒ 00:10:13.670 Ayesha Davis: As they were growing, and it just didn’t work.
44 00:10:13.990 ⇒ 00:10:21.500 Ayesha Davis: So, and then… they just needed someone, I think, more… PMP.
45 00:10:21.780 ⇒ 00:10:27.509 Ayesha Davis: Like, new systems, and who was able to do it. So… yeah.
46 00:10:27.970 ⇒ 00:10:32.860 Ayesha Davis: They hadn’t had a specifically trained project manager.
47 00:10:32.860 ⇒ 00:10:34.600 Amber Lin: Hmm, I see.
48 00:10:34.600 ⇒ 00:10:38.930 Ayesha Davis: So, it was fun to… Set it up. …
49 00:10:39.380 ⇒ 00:10:44.920 Ayesha Davis: But as I said, it’s set up now, and there’s not a lot of opportunity for growth, so I’m just looking.
50 00:10:44.920 ⇒ 00:10:46.760 Amber Lin: Hmm, I see.
51 00:10:46.760 ⇒ 00:10:48.230 Ayesha Davis: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
52 00:10:49.720 ⇒ 00:10:56.090 Amber Lin: I guess… At that company, what was a… …
53 00:10:56.300 ⇒ 00:11:07.310 Amber Lin: I remember you said there were… I know in the loom you talked about some accomplishments. I want to see if there’s an accomplishment specific to this company that you’re, you’re proud of.
54 00:11:08.770 ⇒ 00:11:12.610 Ayesha Davis: At Cemento, or just in my career?
55 00:11:12.610 ⇒ 00:11:13.720 Amber Lin: Until, yeah.
56 00:11:13.930 ⇒ 00:11:20.819 Ayesha Davis: And Samantha, yeah, I was… so we had a team of… we have a team of analytics.
57 00:11:20.960 ⇒ 00:11:27.780 Ayesha Davis: We have our strategy team and our media team, and… Every, …
58 00:11:28.940 ⇒ 00:11:39.069 Ayesha Davis: And they have to coordinate every month to put out reports for all the different… we have about, I want to say, 15 to 20 different,
59 00:11:40.420 ⇒ 00:11:47.970 Ayesha Davis: Different campaigns that are running for different clients, and we have to put those reports out every month.
60 00:11:48.260 ⇒ 00:11:57.330 Ayesha Davis: So I coordinate everyone so that, They are able to…
61 00:11:57.700 ⇒ 00:12:07.960 Ayesha Davis: have touchpoint meetings and develop these reports, and I, we have stand-up… we have project status meetings, they aren’t stand-up meetings.
62 00:12:07.960 ⇒ 00:12:09.020 Amber Lin: Well, I see.
63 00:12:09.020 ⇒ 00:12:23.100 Ayesha Davis: twice a week to make sure everything is going out well. And then, actually, I’m working with them on this data storytelling, so that the data that goes out at the end of the month
64 00:12:23.480 ⇒ 00:12:24.370 Ayesha Davis: has
65 00:12:25.780 ⇒ 00:12:34.499 Ayesha Davis: a narrative around it that convinces the client of what’s going on and what optimizations need to be made.
66 00:12:34.970 ⇒ 00:12:41.799 Ayesha Davis: So, I basically, at the start, I would talk to everyone and figure out what systems would work.
67 00:12:42.040 ⇒ 00:12:54.270 Ayesha Davis: And it’s a hybrid system, so we have a waterfall chart of, like, what we need to be working on when, and when we meet as a team, all the different 20 different project teams.
68 00:12:54.470 ⇒ 00:12:58.440 Ayesha Davis: And, how… they coordinate.
69 00:12:58.700 ⇒ 00:13:09.180 Ayesha Davis: like, it’s hybrid, so, like, there’s a more… there’s, like, it starts here and ends here, but in between, it’s agile, so they have different meetings to, make sure everything’s moving along.
70 00:13:09.640 ⇒ 00:13:19.040 Ayesha Davis: And, then we have a system for ad hoc requests, which I set up so that when another team, like the creative team, wants to know.
71 00:13:20.190 ⇒ 00:13:30.190 Ayesha Davis: or the MA team, the marketing, how did this email do? What… which segment got the most clicks? Like, we have, …
72 00:13:30.550 ⇒ 00:13:32.409 Ayesha Davis: Ad hoc system set up.
73 00:13:32.520 ⇒ 00:13:37.679 Ayesha Davis: Where I’m able to assign it to a person who I know has less work, and…
74 00:13:37.810 ⇒ 00:13:47.150 Ayesha Davis: And make sure it gets QA’d. Oh, another big thing, QA. I set up the system for the QA, and I followed through on it.
75 00:13:47.320 ⇒ 00:14:04.200 Ayesha Davis: So yeah, just making sure that reports go out well. This is specifically Samantha I’m talking about. I have lots of other experience. And I work for them right now, so yeah, as a project management consultant contractor.
76 00:14:04.480 ⇒ 00:14:06.010 Ayesha Davis: We’ll see. Gotcha.
77 00:14:06.180 ⇒ 00:14:10.529 Ayesha Davis: Yeah, so I see it very much, the skills I’m using now.
78 00:14:10.770 ⇒ 00:14:24.599 Ayesha Davis: very much applicable to, like, I can apply to Brainforge. I assume you have many projects, but what is exciting is that I don’t think… I think they’re diverse projects, so you get to learn about different clients, ….
79 00:14:25.290 ⇒ 00:14:28.600 Ayesha Davis: Maybe, maybe not. Yeah. Yeah.
80 00:14:28.720 ⇒ 00:14:37.829 Amber Lin: on that note, I do remember that you bring up that you would like… you prefer not to be in a chaotic environment.
81 00:14:37.970 ⇒ 00:14:48.149 Amber Lin: However, we are a very early-stage startup, and we are very fast-paced, so I was wondering, like, if that… if you think that’s a fit.
82 00:14:48.300 ⇒ 00:14:56.289 Amber Lin: For you, or are there any considerations that, you have about the pace of a startup?
83 00:14:57.600 ⇒ 00:15:02.889 Ayesha Davis: I think that’s exciting. When I said chaotic, it’s more along, like, I….
84 00:15:02.890 ⇒ 00:15:11.200 Amber Lin: I’m used to pivoting, and I like to work with people and figure out, like, this is not working, okay, so what works for you, and….
85 00:15:11.200 ⇒ 00:15:16.260 Ayesha Davis: And pivot as needed. But chaotic in the sense of, like.
86 00:15:17.970 ⇒ 00:15:35.869 Ayesha Davis: there’s no direction, there’s no control of scope, scope screep. Like, if I’m responsible to stay in budget, and there’s scope, scope creep, scope creep all the time, the opportunity to be able to communicate that
87 00:15:35.950 ⇒ 00:15:47.350 Ayesha Davis: And it’s not like, well, that’s what the client wants. Okay, that’s what the client wants, but now this is the budget. Are you going to hold me to this budget and expect scopes… scope creep?
88 00:15:47.480 ⇒ 00:15:54.119 Ayesha Davis: And we comply. So, I guess what I mean by chaotic is it just like, instead of…
89 00:15:55.690 ⇒ 00:16:00.270 Ayesha Davis: Clear communication and understanding why we are doing things.
90 00:16:00.930 ⇒ 00:16:08.900 Ayesha Davis: And not, let’s just do it, because this is the next step we need to take. Okay, why are we taking this step? And as a business owner.
91 00:16:09.000 ⇒ 00:16:09.890 Ayesha Davis: That’s…
92 00:16:10.100 ⇒ 00:16:24.599 Ayesha Davis: I understand that it’s easy for a business owner in early stages to be like, oh, this is working, let’s follow this, let’s go with this, but just stepping back and understanding why do we have the budget, does it make sense?
93 00:16:24.780 ⇒ 00:16:28.390 Ayesha Davis: And approaching it. That’s what I mean by chaotic.
94 00:16:28.650 ⇒ 00:16:33.140 Amber Lin: I see. Awesome. That’s… that’s… I just wanted to clarify, because I thought that….
95 00:16:33.140 ⇒ 00:16:35.500 Ayesha Davis: Probably meant something else.
96 00:16:35.500 ⇒ 00:16:36.070 Amber Lin: Oh, yeah.
97 00:16:36.330 ⇒ 00:16:46.579 Amber Lin: Very curious about your own business. I know we’re a little bit short on time, so I want to wrap up my questions so you can ask me questions. How many people is your current business?
98 00:16:46.950 ⇒ 00:16:56.709 Ayesha Davis: It’s a very small business. It’s a… it’s, retreat center in Panama, and, right now, so we,
99 00:16:57.730 ⇒ 00:16:58.960 Ayesha Davis: So we…
100 00:16:59.570 ⇒ 00:17:19.139 Ayesha Davis: we started before the pandemic. During the pandemic, I pivoted, and I did an online teacher training for 2 years, but then we closed that down, and a yoga studio in Spain took it over, so that’s no longer active. But our business, it’s really small, and it has…
101 00:17:19.500 ⇒ 00:17:33.470 Ayesha Davis: like, 4 employees, and I’m really not 5, not really involved more than in the marketing. I help out a little, and I just make sure we’re on track with
102 00:17:33.620 ⇒ 00:17:34.180 Ayesha Davis: with….
103 00:17:34.180 ⇒ 00:17:34.740 Amber Lin: Cool.
104 00:17:35.070 ⇒ 00:17:39.310 Ayesha Davis: and budgets, so, … It’s, …
105 00:17:39.560 ⇒ 00:17:51.140 Ayesha Davis: Right now, it’s a mellow business, that’s why I took up consulting, and I’m doing project management consulting for Samantell, but like I said, because of my unique situation, sometimes
106 00:17:51.460 ⇒ 00:17:58.100 Ayesha Davis: it’s… I would… I would like more challenges, and I would… yeah, so, yeah.
107 00:17:58.100 ⇒ 00:17:59.509 Amber Lin: I hear you, that sounds very exciting.
108 00:17:59.510 ⇒ 00:18:00.080 Ayesha Davis: Correct.
109 00:18:00.080 ⇒ 00:18:11.440 Amber Lin: I know we’re pretty much at the end. I want to make sure that I can answer your questions about the company, so feel free, ask away, I’ll answer them to the best of my ability.
110 00:18:12.310 ⇒ 00:18:25.989 Ayesha Davis: Yeah, so I’m really curious about this role, like, is it a client-facing role? Is it just with the team? I understand you’re the PMO, I saw… I…
111 00:18:26.100 ⇒ 00:18:31.749 Ayesha Davis: how is that dynamic going to be? Like, if you can give me more of an idea of
112 00:18:31.940 ⇒ 00:18:37.559 Ayesha Davis: Is it a permanent role? Is it a contract role? Like, so many questions, it’s a little bit vague.
113 00:18:37.730 ⇒ 00:18:45.020 Ayesha Davis: But a better idea of what you’re looking for, and what it is specifically. Does that make sense? Yeah.
114 00:18:45.020 ⇒ 00:18:58.860 Amber Lin: Totally. So, this role would be a client-facing project manager that also has… is more senior, so has the ability to help set up the department, make sure that we have the different processes, and most importantly.
115 00:18:58.860 ⇒ 00:19:21.639 Amber Lin: Similar to what you talked about, to have an eye for delivery. Are we delivering what we promised? How are we delivering it? Is it up to the client standards? Are the clients happy? And are we in budget? So, apart from leading projects, because we are a very small company, I don’t think we can… we can support a full-time people manager, so this role was still…
116 00:19:21.640 ⇒ 00:19:30.800 Amber Lin: At the start still manage projects, and then also oversee the project managers and the project coordinators,
117 00:19:31.030 ⇒ 00:19:36.869 Amber Lin: So, to make sure that we work as a complete PMO or delivery team.
118 00:19:37.150 ⇒ 00:19:46.979 Amber Lin: So right now, I’m helping set up the PMO, but… and right now, I’m reporting directly to the CEO. But I think when a…
119 00:19:47.320 ⇒ 00:19:52.460 Amber Lin: Senior Project Manager joins, they wouldn’t be reporting to me,
120 00:19:52.830 ⇒ 00:19:58.300 Amber Lin: We’ll work together at the start to make sure that we have all the processes set up, but once…
121 00:19:58.520 ⇒ 00:20:14.789 Amber Lin: this person’s up and running, I would eventually transition out of the PMO, and I’ll go and set up some other stuff. So, at the start, I will still take on some PM responsibilities, but once this person joins, it will eventually be transitioned over.
122 00:20:15.010 ⇒ 00:20:20.949 Amber Lin: And I think this person would be directly reporting to the CEO.
123 00:20:21.560 ⇒ 00:20:26.299 Ayesha Davis: Okay, okay, cool, cool, cool. So, and it is client-facing, you said?
124 00:20:26.350 ⇒ 00:20:39.679 Amber Lin: Yes, it’s client-facing, and this is, … I also remember you asked if it’s permanent or contract. I would say that this is a permanent role, however.
125 00:20:39.750 ⇒ 00:20:46.709 Amber Lin: Right now, we don’t yet have, W-2s or our taxes set.
126 00:20:46.800 ⇒ 00:20:57.479 Amber Lin: on that, I set up, so I am still a contractor, but I’m on salary. Usually how we start is we start people on a 2-week trial on that period.
127 00:20:57.480 ⇒ 00:21:14.369 Amber Lin: You are going to be on hourly, and it’s for you and, us to see if we’re a fit, if the culture clicks, if the work is what you expected. And then after that, usually it’s discussion of, oh, are we going to transition to full-time? So that will be the discussion there.
128 00:21:15.130 ⇒ 00:21:33.589 Ayesha Davis: Okay, okay. Yeah, in my case, I have a current job, and I like the idea of a two-week trial, too, because, yeah, I see that you guys are a new company, and I, I need stability, so while I’m really… I really want to grow and have… watch a company grow, but I like that idea a lot.
129 00:21:33.770 ⇒ 00:21:40.220 Ayesha Davis: And what… I’m just curious, what, project management software do you guys use?
130 00:21:40.550 ⇒ 00:21:50.709 Amber Lin: We use linear. It’s very similar to Jira and ClickUp or Asana, or stuff that you used before, and we chose it because it lets us,
131 00:21:50.710 ⇒ 00:22:00.690 Amber Lin: integrate with its API, so we were able to get a lot of the data into our own dashboard reporting, so that’s why we chose it, because it allows for more analytics.
132 00:22:01.540 ⇒ 00:22:15.690 Ayesha Davis: Cool. Very nice. I’m looking forward to looking into it. I love new softwares, and especially project management softwares. And so, where is the team located? It seems like you guys are just all over the globe. Is that fair to say?
133 00:22:15.690 ⇒ 00:22:27.369 Amber Lin: Yeah, our team is completely remote, so our clients are mostly US-based. I would say all of them are US-based currently, and our two COs are based in the U.S,
134 00:22:27.370 ⇒ 00:22:41.640 Amber Lin: me, who is the only project manager, is also based in the US. We have a data analyst that’s based in the U.S. Everyone else is based in… we have people in the Philippines, we have people in Pakistan, and then we have people in Europe.
135 00:22:41.640 ⇒ 00:23:00.469 Amber Lin: So it’s remotely, it doesn’t matter where you are working from. As long as you have an overlap with the client’s time frame, and you’re able to attend meetings and be present on client calls, then there’s no problem, where you work and how you work.
136 00:23:01.080 ⇒ 00:23:04.530 Ayesha Davis: Excellent, cool, I love it. And then,
137 00:23:04.740 ⇒ 00:23:14.649 Ayesha Davis: So, like, it’s a new company, I saw Utamn Uta, is that her name? He’s only been CEO for 2 years, like…
138 00:23:14.970 ⇒ 00:23:17.310 Ayesha Davis: … I…
139 00:23:17.980 ⇒ 00:23:37.930 Ayesha Davis: And I’ve seen his change jobs a lot, so, like, what you’re feeling? Is this something that’s growing? Is it lots of clients coming in? Do you see… what’s the prognostic for Brainforge? Do you see it being, long-term? Like, is there this commitment to long-term growth?
140 00:23:38.630 ⇒ 00:23:39.260 Ayesha Davis: within.
141 00:23:39.260 ⇒ 00:23:58.599 Amber Lin: Yeah, I… yeah, totally. So, to give you perspective, I joined about 5 months ago, and from… in those 5 months, I think the client, profile has grown… so client profiles have grown bigger, and we’ve gotten more clients. So, when I joined, I think we have around…
142 00:23:58.900 ⇒ 00:24:07.400 Amber Lin: 6 clients or so, like, two, three big ones, the other ones are decent… are smaller, and right now, I think we have around…
143 00:24:07.400 ⇒ 00:24:22.349 Amber Lin: 10 clients, and the size of each contract has grown a bit, and then we have a more robust sales pipeline, recruiting pipeline, so I do think… I can confidently say that the company has grown, definitely, when I’m there.
144 00:24:22.730 ⇒ 00:24:34.449 Amber Lin: And in terms of long-term growth, and if there’s a long-term vision, I think if you, proceed to future rounds of interviews, I think Utam’s a very interesting person to talk to. I…
145 00:24:34.480 ⇒ 00:24:46.229 Amber Lin: I like his vision for the company. I think it’s quite rare for someone to have a vision like that for a consultancy, because consultancies are very,
146 00:24:46.350 ⇒ 00:24:52.270 Amber Lin: tried and tested business models that doesn’t require that much innovation, because you
147 00:24:52.270 ⇒ 00:25:08.029 Amber Lin: can just complete what your client asks for. But I think Utsom visions us as an AI-first company, so we do a lot of our internal processes with AI. I use a lot of that in my daily work, and that’s the culture that we have, and
148 00:25:08.030 ⇒ 00:25:22.060 Amber Lin: He has a lot of visions around how we measure work, how we speed up work, what the company will eventually be doing, and how AI is gonna be involved in our work and other people’s work. So…
149 00:25:22.230 ⇒ 00:25:30.269 Amber Lin: I think it checks off both the box that you… you were asking about, growth and then, a long-term… long-term vision.
150 00:25:30.950 ⇒ 00:25:46.130 Ayesha Davis: That’s really cool, and yeah, like I said, I just… even though I imagine I’m older than most people on your team, but I’m just really excited about technology and AI, and… and I also feel like I bring
151 00:25:46.270 ⇒ 00:25:52.489 Ayesha Davis: A level of maturity, and just experience in lots of different fields, …
152 00:25:52.960 ⇒ 00:26:01.129 Ayesha Davis: And… but also a lot of humility, so, always looking to learn, So, yeah, …
153 00:26:02.070 ⇒ 00:26:18.210 Ayesha Davis: Any, like, anything from me that would convince you that I would be right for the role? Do you have any, like, lagging questions, or anything that you want to share with me that…
154 00:26:18.900 ⇒ 00:26:22.550 Ayesha Davis: would… Any doubts you might have?
155 00:26:22.790 ⇒ 00:26:23.910 Amber Lin: I think…
156 00:26:24.070 ⇒ 00:26:48.480 Amber Lin: So, this is the first screening round, and usually after this, I will share my notes, and people have access to this recording, and so Utam and our current advisor for the PMO will help look at your profile and see if we want to proceed. And if we do, they will conduct a more technical interview on your project management experience, so
157 00:26:48.480 ⇒ 00:26:58.460 Amber Lin: This is more of a screening on who you’re like as a person, what you would… what you would want for your career, and see if that’s a match. And…
158 00:26:58.460 ⇒ 00:27:02.230 Amber Lin: I don’t have any outstanding questions for now, I…
159 00:27:02.300 ⇒ 00:27:15.179 Amber Lin: Do know that they’re also… we’re also interviewing a few other candidates, so you will hear back this week or next week on the next steps, and then… so you wouldn’t be waiting for too long.
160 00:27:15.590 ⇒ 00:27:17.700 Ayesha Davis: I love it. Thank you.
161 00:27:17.700 ⇒ 00:27:18.120 Amber Lin: Yeah.
162 00:27:18.120 ⇒ 00:27:27.459 Ayesha Davis: Thank you, Amber. Yeah, I’m really excited about the role, if it works out, if it’s the right fit, most important is that it’s the right fit for everyone involved, so I hope
163 00:27:27.800 ⇒ 00:27:30.160 Ayesha Davis: guys find the right person, and if it’s.
164 00:27:30.160 ⇒ 00:27:30.600 Amber Lin: Mobile is….
165 00:27:30.600 ⇒ 00:27:32.009 Ayesha Davis: Perfect. Yeah.
166 00:27:32.010 ⇒ 00:27:34.629 Amber Lin: Do you have a notice period for your current company?
167 00:27:35.260 ⇒ 00:27:50.100 Ayesha Davis: Yes, I would have to give them two weeks, to a month, but then, like you said, if it’s a two-week trial period, I’ll… I’ll work… I’ll, like, take… work a little less for them while I’m doing… like, I wouldn’t say anything to them until…
168 00:27:50.750 ⇒ 00:27:52.529 Ayesha Davis: I’m confident, and….
169 00:27:54.120 ⇒ 00:27:54.500 Amber Lin: I see.
170 00:27:54.500 ⇒ 00:27:58.869 Ayesha Davis: That makes sense. But I like your idea of a two-weeks trial, so I’m fine with that. Yeah.
171 00:27:58.870 ⇒ 00:28:01.070 Amber Lin: Okay, sounds good. Thank you so much for your time.
172 00:28:01.070 ⇒ 00:28:04.269 Ayesha Davis: Thank you, Amber. All the best. We’ll be in touch.
173 00:28:04.430 ⇒ 00:28:05.459 Ayesha Davis: Yeah, you too. Bye.
174 00:28:05.460 ⇒ 00:28:06.659 Amber Lin: Alright, bye!