2025-08-22_ai_team_vibe_coding_session_2565ea82

Meeting Title: AI Team Vibe Coding Session Date: 2025-08-22 Meeting participants: Mustafa Raja, Casie Aviles, Uttam Kumaran

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1 00:00:39.540 ⇒ 00:00:40.950 Casie Aviles: Hey, Mustafa.

2 00:00:42.480 ⇒ 00:00:43.470 Mustafa Raja: Hey, how are you?

3 00:00:44.710 ⇒ 00:00:46.289 Casie Aviles: Yeah, doing good.

4 00:00:46.920 ⇒ 00:00:51.420 Casie Aviles: I know the day’s about to end. I mean, for me at least, not sure for you, but….

5 00:00:51.420 ⇒ 00:00:52.490 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, same.

6 00:00:53.500 ⇒ 00:00:56.719 Casie Aviles: Yeah. I guess after the… after this meet, I’ll….

7 00:00:57.020 ⇒ 00:00:57.980 Mustafa Raja: I log off.

8 00:00:59.140 ⇒ 00:01:00.200 Casie Aviles: Okay, cool.

9 00:01:02.140 ⇒ 00:01:03.799 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, any plans for the weekend?

10 00:01:06.039 ⇒ 00:01:07.299 Casie Aviles: I don’t know yet.

11 00:01:09.289 ⇒ 00:01:11.279 Casie Aviles: I’ve just been playing, ….

12 00:01:11.279 ⇒ 00:01:14.599 Mustafa Raja: another video game lately, but… Oh, which one?

13 00:01:15.600 ⇒ 00:01:21.340 Casie Aviles: What was it? God of War, I think, yeah, Ragnarok, the second one. Ragnarok, I mean….

14 00:01:22.460 ⇒ 00:01:23.689 Mustafa Raja: I guess it’s the 15th.

15 00:01:23.690 ⇒ 00:01:24.400 Casie Aviles: the one.

16 00:01:24.400 ⇒ 00:01:31.759 Mustafa Raja: … I have friends that did play that game, but I didn’t get a chance any.

17 00:01:32.010 ⇒ 00:01:34.679 Mustafa Raja: Anytime to get… get to play it.

18 00:01:35.210 ⇒ 00:01:36.080 Casie Aviles: Yeah….

19 00:01:36.080 ⇒ 00:01:36.460 Mustafa Raja: How is it?

20 00:01:37.100 ⇒ 00:01:39.639 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I think it was… it’s pretty fun, like…

21 00:01:40.790 ⇒ 00:01:43.540 Casie Aviles: I’m… I’ve been playing God of War since…

22 00:01:43.980 ⇒ 00:01:46.760 Casie Aviles: I was a kid, I guess, with the old ones.

23 00:01:46.760 ⇒ 00:01:50.000 Mustafa Raja: Boy, I didn’t know it’s, it’s that old.

24 00:01:51.010 ⇒ 00:01:55.960 Casie Aviles: Yeah, it was, like, the first game was released in 2005, I believe.

25 00:01:57.200 ⇒ 00:01:58.250 Mustafa Raja: Oh….

26 00:01:58.250 ⇒ 00:02:00.639 Casie Aviles: Yeah, it’s a… it’s a long game.

27 00:02:00.930 ⇒ 00:02:03.629 Casie Aviles: I mean, it’s an old game, I mean, it’s an old game.

28 00:02:04.170 ⇒ 00:02:08.879 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. Yeah, I just… I know the gist of it, it’s some sort of mythology.

29 00:02:09.509 ⇒ 00:02:12.489 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Greek mythology, I believe.

30 00:02:13.300 ⇒ 00:02:13.870 Casie Aviles: You’re right.

31 00:02:13.870 ⇒ 00:02:19.649 Mustafa Raja: There’s Thor, and then there’s some other characters from that, and there….

32 00:02:21.990 ⇒ 00:02:29.340 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, the old games, like, it was set in Greek mythology, and the new ones have…

33 00:02:29.510 ⇒ 00:02:35.119 Casie Aviles: Norse mythology, so you see Thor and… Oh, so that’s….

34 00:02:35.120 ⇒ 00:02:37.500 Mustafa Raja: origin from Greek mythology.

35 00:02:37.730 ⇒ 00:02:48.589 Casie Aviles: No, he’s from, Norse mythology, so I think it’s the mythology of the people from, you know, the countries like Norway, Iceland.

36 00:02:48.590 ⇒ 00:02:51.369 Mustafa Raja: You know? Yeah, yeah, makes sense, makes sense.

37 00:02:51.800 ⇒ 00:02:52.720 Casie Aviles: Yeah.

38 00:02:52.780 ⇒ 00:02:53.640 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

39 00:02:55.580 ⇒ 00:03:01.279 Casie Aviles: Yeah, it was… it’s pretty fun. If you ever get the chance to play, then definitely.

40 00:03:01.280 ⇒ 00:03:04.630 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I think I should get some sort of console or something.

41 00:03:05.520 ⇒ 00:03:11.519 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, I mean… If you… if you can… Buy one, then why not?

42 00:03:12.020 ⇒ 00:03:12.850 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

43 00:03:12.970 ⇒ 00:03:13.460 Mustafa Raja: But….

44 00:03:13.460 ⇒ 00:03:14.020 Casie Aviles: But I….

45 00:03:14.020 ⇒ 00:03:14.560 Mustafa Raja: I’m just kidding.

46 00:03:14.560 ⇒ 00:03:15.940 Casie Aviles: on my PC.

47 00:03:16.400 ⇒ 00:03:17.650 Mustafa Raja: Oh, you have a PC?

48 00:03:18.500 ⇒ 00:03:24.269 Casie Aviles: Oh, I mean… I mean my laptop. It’s a gaming laptop, so I can also play a bit there.

49 00:03:24.560 ⇒ 00:03:29.849 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, how does it… In terms of gaming.

50 00:03:30.980 ⇒ 00:03:35.509 Casie Aviles: I think I can run most modern games at least at 60.

51 00:03:38.840 ⇒ 00:03:40.840 Casie Aviles: Yeah, not too high.

52 00:03:40.840 ⇒ 00:03:45.859 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this is my complaint with gaming laptops, is they are too chunky for me.

53 00:03:47.060 ⇒ 00:03:51.729 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, I get that. The one that I got is not…

54 00:03:51.870 ⇒ 00:03:54.519 Casie Aviles: I would say it’s not too chunky, this is actually….

55 00:03:54.520 ⇒ 00:03:55.110 Mustafa Raja: Is it….

56 00:03:55.990 ⇒ 00:04:02.240 Casie Aviles: It’s an Asus ROG… G16, I believe?

57 00:04:02.240 ⇒ 00:04:04.470 Mustafa Raja: Oh, bro, I love those.

58 00:04:05.000 ⇒ 00:04:07.160 Casie Aviles: Yeah, it’s pretty compact, I would say.

59 00:04:07.160 ⇒ 00:04:09.600 Mustafa Raja: Which one, though? Is it from…

60 00:04:09.840 ⇒ 00:04:16.010 Mustafa Raja: Because, there’s one… it’s with the, … it’s… it’s…

61 00:04:16.440 ⇒ 00:04:19.519 Mustafa Raja: It’s the one that has got lights on the back, right?

62 00:04:21.220 ⇒ 00:04:25.499 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I believe so, but I don’t use it. I turn it off.

63 00:04:25.950 ⇒ 00:04:28.279 Mustafa Raja: So you have turned off the lights.

64 00:04:28.560 ⇒ 00:04:34.239 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don’t use it. Yeah, there’s… there are lights. There’s supposed to be lights, but I don’t use them.

65 00:04:34.670 ⇒ 00:04:35.840 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, makes sense.

66 00:04:36.140 ⇒ 00:04:37.319 Casie Aviles: I don’t want….

67 00:04:37.770 ⇒ 00:04:41.990 Mustafa Raja: I mean, there isn’t any particular use case, rather than, you know….

68 00:04:42.140 ⇒ 00:04:44.430 Casie Aviles: Yeah, it’s to show off.

69 00:04:44.430 ⇒ 00:04:45.250 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, sure.

70 00:04:45.970 ⇒ 00:04:48.839 Casie Aviles: But, yeah, the thing is, I don’t… I don’t want…

71 00:04:49.080 ⇒ 00:04:52.909 Casie Aviles: to, … I don’t want my laptop to look like a gaming laptop, I just want.

72 00:04:52.910 ⇒ 00:04:53.559 Mustafa Raja: Let me know.

73 00:04:53.560 ⇒ 00:04:54.350 Casie Aviles: key.

74 00:04:54.350 ⇒ 00:04:55.040 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

75 00:04:55.210 ⇒ 00:05:02.209 Mustafa Raja: I feel the newer one that they just released last year It’s super good looking.

76 00:05:02.930 ⇒ 00:05:03.790 Casie Aviles: Budget Switch.

77 00:05:03.790 ⇒ 00:05:04.740 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

78 00:05:04.740 ⇒ 00:05:06.359 Casie Aviles: Yeah, it is expensive.

79 00:05:06.360 ⇒ 00:05:11.120 Mustafa Raja: expensive, it’s like 2,000 USD or something, or even more.

80 00:05:11.280 ⇒ 00:05:12.340 Casie Aviles: Yeah.

81 00:05:13.180 ⇒ 00:05:16.339 Casie Aviles: Yeah, honestly, they are expensive, but…

82 00:05:16.460 ⇒ 00:05:27.129 Casie Aviles: this is, like, my only… I think I… yeah, that was last year I upgraded in, like… it took me, like, 10 years before I got a new laptop, so….

83 00:05:27.130 ⇒ 00:05:30.239 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it makes sense. It makes sense to get the best one.

84 00:05:30.940 ⇒ 00:05:36.870 Casie Aviles: Yeah, and so I don’t think I’m gonna be buying anything new, so I want it to last.

85 00:05:36.870 ⇒ 00:05:40.869 Mustafa Raja: I don’t think that you will need a new one for a long time.

86 00:05:41.650 ⇒ 00:05:44.869 Casie Aviles: This one is powerful enough to handle.

87 00:05:45.170 ⇒ 00:05:47.749 Mustafa Raja: A lot of the stuff that’s going to be coming.

88 00:05:48.190 ⇒ 00:05:50.410 Casie Aviles: Yeah, hopefully, hopefully. Thanks.

89 00:05:52.050 ⇒ 00:05:58.509 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I was thinking of getting, G14, the 2025 one.

90 00:05:58.690 ⇒ 00:06:00.550 Mustafa Raja: But I got the Mac Mini.

91 00:06:01.070 ⇒ 00:06:02.819 Casie Aviles: Oh, okay, yeah.

92 00:06:03.070 ⇒ 00:06:05.530 Mustafa Raja: Wow, any, any reason why?

93 00:06:05.970 ⇒ 00:06:09.030 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it’s just, it’s Windows.

94 00:06:09.100 ⇒ 00:06:09.860 Casie Aviles: Oh, I agree.

95 00:06:09.860 ⇒ 00:06:16.820 Mustafa Raja: We don’t want to switch, but if I were to switch, and I were to get something

96 00:06:17.450 ⇒ 00:06:19.600 Mustafa Raja: With Windows on it.

97 00:06:19.930 ⇒ 00:06:25.309 Mustafa Raja: I… My first priority would have been The Zephyrus G14.

98 00:06:26.200 ⇒ 00:06:28.410 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, definitely. I think it’s pretty good.

99 00:06:28.410 ⇒ 00:06:33.010 Mustafa Raja: I love it. I feel it’s… it’s really like a MacBook.

100 00:06:34.040 ⇒ 00:06:35.419 Casie Aviles: Yeah, it’s pretty….

101 00:06:35.420 ⇒ 00:06:35.989 Mustafa Raja: I think it’s true.

102 00:06:36.820 ⇒ 00:06:38.200 Casie Aviles: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

103 00:06:38.750 ⇒ 00:06:42.759 Mustafa Raja: I think it’s, the 2025 one. Which one do you have, though?

104 00:06:43.350 ⇒ 00:06:49.540 Casie Aviles: I think this is, 2024… model, or 2023, I forgot.

105 00:06:50.870 ⇒ 00:06:53.080 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I think it’s 2024.

106 00:06:53.940 ⇒ 00:07:04.249 Mustafa Raja: Okay, I haven’t really looked at 2024 one, I’ve only looked at the 2025 one, and that really looks so sleek.

107 00:07:04.590 ⇒ 00:07:06.990 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, I think that one’s even better.

108 00:07:07.330 ⇒ 00:07:11.760 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, and I believe it’s… also liked, ….

109 00:07:11.760 ⇒ 00:07:12.470 Casie Aviles: Oh.

110 00:07:12.470 ⇒ 00:07:22.269 Mustafa Raja: But the downside of it is, it has a… Yeah, it gets hot, and it has a less powerful, what’s it called, GPU, also.

111 00:07:22.270 ⇒ 00:07:22.930 Casie Aviles: Oh….

112 00:07:22.930 ⇒ 00:07:26.599 Mustafa Raja: The GPU is a little less powerful than the previous generation.

113 00:07:27.170 ⇒ 00:07:32.980 Mustafa Raja: So it’s lighter, but yeah, GPU really does matter in… when you’re.

114 00:07:32.980 ⇒ 00:07:33.730 Casie Aviles: Yeah, that’s true.

115 00:07:33.730 ⇒ 00:07:36.360 Mustafa Raja: gaming laptop, you wouldn’t want to

116 00:07:36.510 ⇒ 00:07:39.540 Mustafa Raja: you know, compromise on… on that, I guess.

117 00:07:39.860 ⇒ 00:07:41.209 Casie Aviles: Yeah, definitely.

118 00:07:41.210 ⇒ 00:07:47.110 Mustafa Raja: I wouldn’t be buying it for gaming particularly. I’d be buying it for the looks of it, to be honest.

119 00:07:49.060 ⇒ 00:07:50.130 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I mean….

120 00:07:50.130 ⇒ 00:07:54.790 Mustafa Raja: to me, it wouldn’t really matter if the GPU is a little lighter.

121 00:07:55.070 ⇒ 00:08:00.470 Mustafa Raja: Or anything like that, because it’s really, to me, it’s really cool technology, something worthy.

122 00:08:00.470 ⇒ 00:08:01.350 Casie Aviles: Yeah.

123 00:08:01.350 ⇒ 00:08:01.760 Mustafa Raja: Goodbye.

124 00:08:01.760 ⇒ 00:08:05.779 Casie Aviles: As long as you like it, right? That’s what matters.

125 00:08:05.780 ⇒ 00:08:08.419 Mustafa Raja: Oh, does it have, Copilot?

126 00:08:09.300 ⇒ 00:08:18.799 Casie Aviles: Copilot. Yeah, I think it does. I’m not… I don’t really use it much, but I… yeah, I can see it here in my task… yeah, in my taskbar.

127 00:08:18.800 ⇒ 00:08:22.060 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I don’t think anyone uses… co-pilot.

128 00:08:24.010 ⇒ 00:08:32.370 Mustafa Raja: Oh, there’s these new chips coming. What’s the name of it? The Qualcommun ones, the ARM technology.

129 00:08:32.370 ⇒ 00:08:34.469 Casie Aviles: Oh, yeah, yeah, I heard about that.

130 00:08:34.470 ⇒ 00:08:46.909 Mustafa Raja: Those would be… those would be nice to try out, to be honest, because they do perform a lot well. They consume a lot less… less energy, and then the output is really good, and …

131 00:08:47.350 ⇒ 00:08:51.710 Mustafa Raja: you get really good battery life, because I feel the… these….

132 00:08:51.710 ⇒ 00:08:52.530 Casie Aviles: Yeah.

133 00:08:53.250 ⇒ 00:08:57.180 Mustafa Raja: These laptops, they do really consume a lot of energy.

134 00:08:57.890 ⇒ 00:08:58.440 Mustafa Raja: So, in terms.

135 00:08:59.200 ⇒ 00:09:06.839 Mustafa Raja: If… if Rogue does adopt that, I… I might just shift.

136 00:09:06.840 ⇒ 00:09:08.900 Casie Aviles: Yeah, that might be, ….

137 00:09:08.900 ⇒ 00:09:12.759 Mustafa Raja: That might be good. That might… that might be the point, they convinced me.

138 00:09:13.090 ⇒ 00:09:13.900 Casie Aviles: Yeah.

139 00:09:14.300 ⇒ 00:09:17.269 Casie Aviles: Qualcomm was for mobiles, right? Mobile devices.

140 00:09:17.270 ⇒ 00:09:24.760 Mustafa Raja: Qualcomm… yeah, they… but they just got into, … these chips, too.

141 00:09:26.020 ⇒ 00:09:26.420 Casie Aviles: Oh….

142 00:09:26.420 ⇒ 00:09:32.580 Mustafa Raja: And also, AMD has started working on CPUs, too.

143 00:09:33.710 ⇒ 00:09:34.720 Casie Aviles: Nice.

144 00:09:35.520 ⇒ 00:09:40.389 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. Have you heard of the… Framework laptop?

145 00:09:41.160 ⇒ 00:09:42.789 Casie Aviles: Oh, no, no, no, I haven’t.

146 00:09:42.930 ⇒ 00:09:49.850 Mustafa Raja: Oh, that, that one, that one is… that one is worthy to take a look at, too. Let me share my screen.

147 00:09:49.850 ⇒ 00:09:50.650 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, sure.

148 00:09:50.650 ⇒ 00:09:53.600 Mustafa Raja: while… while Utum gets here.

149 00:09:55.270 ⇒ 00:09:59.110 Mustafa Raja: Let’s look at it together. So this is the one that I’m talking about.

150 00:09:59.320 ⇒ 00:10:00.750 Mustafa Raja: G14.

151 00:10:01.090 ⇒ 00:10:01.550 Casie Aviles: Yeah.

152 00:10:01.550 ⇒ 00:10:03.499 Mustafa Raja: Is this the one? Is this the one that you have?

153 00:10:03.860 ⇒ 00:10:06.570 Casie Aviles: Mine’s G16, so it’s a little….

154 00:10:06.570 ⇒ 00:10:08.930 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it’s a bigger… it’s a bigger one, right?

155 00:10:09.130 ⇒ 00:10:10.319 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

156 00:10:10.320 ⇒ 00:10:14.050 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, but I would have gotten this one because, …

157 00:10:14.260 ⇒ 00:10:17.409 Mustafa Raja: I’m also conscious of the size.

158 00:10:18.170 ⇒ 00:10:28.859 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I want it to be handy. I feel that 16s… 16s, really tend to get between mobility,

159 00:10:29.020 ⇒ 00:10:29.600 Mustafa Raja: And….

160 00:10:29.600 ⇒ 00:10:30.430 Casie Aviles: Yeah.

161 00:10:30.430 ⇒ 00:10:33.360 Mustafa Raja: That… that’s something big for me.

162 00:10:34.500 ⇒ 00:10:40.180 Mustafa Raja: So, framework, right? Frame… Salvi.

163 00:10:41.010 ⇒ 00:10:42.410 Mustafa Raja: Broke. Type.

164 00:10:42.920 ⇒ 00:10:43.880 Casie Aviles: No, no problem.

165 00:10:43.880 ⇒ 00:10:50.889 Mustafa Raja: Hey, look… broke.

166 00:10:54.250 ⇒ 00:10:55.400 Mustafa Raja: Well, bro.

167 00:10:55.400 ⇒ 00:10:57.439 Casie Aviles: Oh, what’s up? What’s up with their website?

168 00:10:57.440 ⇒ 00:10:59.209 Mustafa Raja: No, no, no, this isn’t the one.

169 00:10:59.930 ⇒ 00:11:00.790 Mustafa Raja: This one?

170 00:11:05.120 ⇒ 00:11:17.880 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so you see, the concept really is that everything is modular, meaning that if something breaks in your laptop, or you want to upgrade it somehow, meaning new,

171 00:11:17.880 ⇒ 00:11:18.450 Casie Aviles: Yeah.

172 00:11:18.450 ⇒ 00:11:25.359 Mustafa Raja: comes out and you want to upgrade to that. Everything that comes in this laptop is modular.

173 00:11:25.740 ⇒ 00:11:27.189 Mustafa Raja: Let’s look into the past.

174 00:11:27.190 ⇒ 00:11:28.190 Casie Aviles: critical and stuff.

175 00:11:28.520 ⇒ 00:11:30.429 Casie Aviles: And just take stocks out.

176 00:11:30.820 ⇒ 00:11:35.200 Mustafa Raja: We can slap a new… What’s it called?

177 00:11:35.490 ⇒ 00:11:36.940 Mustafa Raja: TPU on it.

178 00:11:37.810 ⇒ 00:11:43.480 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, and that… that’s going to be… something… Amazing.

179 00:11:43.940 ⇒ 00:11:50.180 Mustafa Raja: These do… these do… these have started to ship, and people really have good reviews on them.

180 00:11:51.120 ⇒ 00:11:55.199 Mustafa Raja: It’s just that I don’t really like the design, the look of it right now.

181 00:11:56.200 ⇒ 00:11:58.369 Mustafa Raja: Not my wife, to be honest.

182 00:11:59.010 ⇒ 00:12:02.040 Mustafa Raja: I don’t really like this sort of hinge, also.

183 00:12:02.040 ⇒ 00:12:02.679 Casie Aviles: I feel this is….

184 00:12:03.100 ⇒ 00:12:08.399 Mustafa Raja: this is very fragile, because I’ve had laptops with these sort of hinges.

185 00:12:08.400 ⇒ 00:12:09.450 Casie Aviles: And they tend to break.

186 00:12:09.790 ⇒ 00:12:17.150 Mustafa Raja: they tend to be fragile, so yeah, I would want a singular and longer hinge that

187 00:12:17.540 ⇒ 00:12:25.110 Mustafa Raja: looks steady, at least. Even if it isn’t, because that’s how I’m going to be peaceful in my mind, yeah, it.

188 00:12:25.110 ⇒ 00:12:32.890 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I mean, hinges are, you know, very common. They commonly break if they’re bad, you know, that sucks.

189 00:12:33.320 ⇒ 00:12:38.360 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, and that… that was another reason I… I did adopt, sorry, Mac.

190 00:12:38.840 ⇒ 00:12:45.039 Mustafa Raja: Because they do… at least they don’t compromise on the build quality.

191 00:12:45.040 ⇒ 00:12:48.729 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah. And I feel this is pretty good in terms of that, too, because….

192 00:12:50.100 ⇒ 00:12:57.690 Mustafa Raja: Because this is a pretty strong-looking laptop. This is… this looks like it’s built to last, which I would want.

193 00:12:58.160 ⇒ 00:13:03.710 Casie Aviles: Yeah, if you ask me, like, the build of the G16 right now, I think it’s pretty sturdy.

194 00:13:04.040 ⇒ 00:13:04.810 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

195 00:13:04.940 ⇒ 00:13:11.980 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’ve heard the same reviews. I have some friends that have this. I just love this one, to be honest.

196 00:13:13.400 ⇒ 00:13:17.920 Mustafa Raja: If I had a chance, and if I were convinced to switch to.

197 00:13:17.920 ⇒ 00:13:18.630 Casie Aviles: Yeah.

198 00:13:18.630 ⇒ 00:13:20.530 Mustafa Raja: Windows, this is the one I’m getting.

199 00:13:20.780 ⇒ 00:13:23.330 Casie Aviles: Yeah, why not? Maybe in the future.

200 00:13:23.330 ⇒ 00:13:26.519 Mustafa Raja: Okay, let’s see how much is a G14.

201 00:13:27.310 ⇒ 00:13:29.259 Mustafa Raja: Nice in Pakistan.

202 00:13:29.530 ⇒ 00:13:33.500 Mustafa Raja: I’ll translate this to, USD for you.

203 00:13:34.230 ⇒ 00:13:34.960 Mustafa Raja: visit.

204 00:13:39.630 ⇒ 00:13:40.700 Mustafa Raja: Bro, this…

205 00:13:52.580 ⇒ 00:13:53.710 Mustafa Raja: Which one do you have?

206 00:13:55.180 ⇒ 00:13:56.729 Casie Aviles: Oh, G16.

207 00:13:57.020 ⇒ 00:13:57.869 Casie Aviles: Oh, Jesus.

208 00:13:57.870 ⇒ 00:13:58.420 Mustafa Raja: Hmm.

209 00:13:58.420 ⇒ 00:13:59.780 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, G16.

210 00:14:05.860 ⇒ 00:14:08.080 Mustafa Raja: And this is pretty good, to be honest.

211 00:14:09.360 ⇒ 00:14:17.980 Mustafa Raja: This is, like… … 1500?

212 00:14:18.200 ⇒ 00:14:22.839 Mustafa Raja: I guess… 1500 USD.

213 00:14:23.850 ⇒ 00:14:26.510 Casie Aviles: Oh, let me, let me try to convert that.

214 00:14:29.970 ⇒ 00:14:36.210 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, tell me if it looks good in your currency. Oh, bro, this is… this is super good, I… I want to change.

215 00:14:38.930 ⇒ 00:14:39.860 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

216 00:14:39.860 ⇒ 00:14:42.090 Mustafa Raja: This is a 2025 one.

217 00:14:43.970 ⇒ 00:14:48.759 Casie Aviles: Oh, that’s a 2025, oh… Yeah, that’s… that’s the newest one.

218 00:14:50.280 ⇒ 00:14:51.600 Mustafa Raja: I want to change.

219 00:14:57.120 ⇒ 00:15:00.510 Mustafa Raja: This, I’m not sure about, this is… this looks too cheap, bro.

220 00:15:01.960 ⇒ 00:15:02.720 Casie Aviles: Yeah….

221 00:15:02.720 ⇒ 00:15:05.610 Mustafa Raja: realistic prices. I have no money for anything.

222 00:15:06.260 ⇒ 00:15:09.170 Casie Aviles: Yeah, it should be at least 2,000.

223 00:15:09.560 ⇒ 00:15:10.410 Casie Aviles: USD.

224 00:15:10.410 ⇒ 00:15:12.779 Mustafa Raja: You see? Yeah, but this one is used, no?

225 00:15:13.560 ⇒ 00:15:16.540 Casie Aviles: Yeah, oh, okay, these are used….

226 00:15:16.540 ⇒ 00:15:17.699 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, these are used.

227 00:15:18.710 ⇒ 00:15:23.260 Mustafa Raja: The newer one, yeah, it’s going to be around 5, sorry, 2000.

228 00:15:23.260 ⇒ 00:15:24.280 Casie Aviles: Yes, yes.

229 00:15:26.510 ⇒ 00:15:27.270 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

230 00:15:28.220 ⇒ 00:15:31.279 Mustafa Raja: And this, this, this really is… yeah, see?

231 00:15:33.000 ⇒ 00:15:38.280 Mustafa Raja: You can, you can, you can add in, graphics card.

232 00:15:38.520 ⇒ 00:15:41.589 Mustafa Raja: And then you can also add in better fans.

233 00:15:42.070 ⇒ 00:15:44.549 Casie Aviles: Yeah, you can even repair it yourself, right?

234 00:15:44.550 ⇒ 00:15:54.759 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, if you have, let’s say the headphone jack isn’t working, slap a new one. Some USB-A isn’t working, slap a new one.

235 00:15:55.000 ⇒ 00:15:57.979 Mustafa Raja: Motherboard isn’t really good, snap a new one.

236 00:15:57.980 ⇒ 00:16:02.999 Casie Aviles: I don’t know why they are not doing this sooner.

237 00:16:03.870 ⇒ 00:16:08.650 Casie Aviles: I mean, the laptops we have right now, right?

238 00:16:08.780 ⇒ 00:16:11.849 Casie Aviles: I don’t know why it took so long for them to be modular.

239 00:16:12.750 ⇒ 00:16:16.200 Mustafa Raja: Oh, I think they do not want it to be modular at all, the company.

240 00:16:16.200 ⇒ 00:16:18.350 Casie Aviles: Yeah, because….

241 00:16:18.350 ⇒ 00:16:18.830 Mustafa Raja: so on.

242 00:16:18.830 ⇒ 00:16:19.360 Casie Aviles: Thank you.

243 00:16:19.780 ⇒ 00:16:23.869 Mustafa Raja: It’s a… It’s a way of… way to earn, bro.

244 00:16:24.320 ⇒ 00:16:33.849 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, if you have to… you know, they want to make you buy the entire laptop, right? They don’t want you to buy just the parts.

245 00:16:33.850 ⇒ 00:16:38.469 Mustafa Raja: I feel sometimes, sometimes the repairs cost enough

246 00:16:38.660 ⇒ 00:16:43.430 Mustafa Raja: That you’d think, bro, let’s just add some more money and get a new one, no?

247 00:16:43.710 ⇒ 00:16:44.380 Casie Aviles: Yeah.

248 00:16:44.380 ⇒ 00:16:46.310 Mustafa Raja: And so it makes sense to, you know.

249 00:16:46.550 ⇒ 00:16:51.390 Mustafa Raja: For the… to not allow people, …

250 00:16:52.740 ⇒ 00:16:55.129 Mustafa Raja: To be able to fix things themselves.

251 00:16:58.190 ⇒ 00:17:01.619 Mustafa Raja: But this is… this company is doing it, and I really love it for that.

252 00:17:02.150 ⇒ 00:17:03.290 Casie Aviles: Yeah, for sure.

253 00:17:03.290 ⇒ 00:17:05.530 Mustafa Raja: Desktop is really good, too.

254 00:17:05.859 ⇒ 00:17:06.880 Mustafa Raja: I want to….

255 00:17:07.740 ⇒ 00:17:09.760 Casie Aviles: Oh, they also do, like, oh, they also do….

256 00:17:09.760 ⇒ 00:17:10.599 Mustafa Raja: They just started.

257 00:17:10.609 ⇒ 00:17:11.299 Casie Aviles: desktop.

258 00:17:11.300 ⇒ 00:17:12.459 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, look at this.

259 00:17:17.720 ⇒ 00:17:18.650 Mustafa Raja: with this.

260 00:17:19.210 ⇒ 00:17:20.089 Casie Aviles: Yeah.

261 00:17:20.099 ⇒ 00:17:25.339 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this is the processor that I was telling you about, this is the ARM one.

262 00:17:26.390 ⇒ 00:17:27.279 Casie Aviles: Oh, yeah, the new….

263 00:17:27.280 ⇒ 00:17:31.880 Mustafa Raja: The same technology that, Qualcomm and all are using.

264 00:17:35.720 ⇒ 00:17:38.519 Mustafa Raja: Qualcomm, and the M chips are based on that, too.

265 00:17:39.220 ⇒ 00:17:41.069 Casie Aviles: Oh, damn chips, oh, nice.

266 00:17:42.920 ⇒ 00:17:47.650 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this is a good concept. I can see this company proving…

267 00:17:48.300 ⇒ 00:17:50.660 Mustafa Raja: I just wish that they were in Pakistan.

268 00:17:51.760 ⇒ 00:17:53.010 Casie Aviles: Where are they based?

269 00:17:53.210 ⇒ 00:17:54.830 Mustafa Raja: Only in US for now.

270 00:17:55.620 ⇒ 00:17:58.380 Casie Aviles: Yeah. This is the… they just started….

271 00:18:00.040 ⇒ 00:18:01.859 Mustafa Raja: Very new company, very….

272 00:18:02.360 ⇒ 00:18:03.450 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah.

273 00:18:06.020 ⇒ 00:18:08.100 Mustafa Raja: And do you have an external monitor or something?

274 00:18:08.790 ⇒ 00:18:18.039 Casie Aviles: No, actually, … I think Utan was supposed to also give one, but… I don’t think…

275 00:18:19.240 ⇒ 00:18:22.559 Casie Aviles: Yeah, it got busy, so….

276 00:18:22.890 ⇒ 00:18:28.440 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’m get… I’m… I’m thinking of getting a new one, because… Yeah.

277 00:18:30.920 ⇒ 00:18:34.209 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I mean, it would… it would definitely boost,

278 00:18:34.320 ⇒ 00:18:43.219 Casie Aviles: your productivity, I guess, so you don’t have to… like, me, I constantly do window switching, like Alt-Tab, you know?

279 00:18:43.220 ⇒ 00:18:44.879 Mustafa Raja: No, yeah, same.

280 00:18:46.680 ⇒ 00:18:47.640 Casie Aviles: Sometimes, maybe.

281 00:18:47.640 ⇒ 00:18:50.839 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, my monitor isn’t really good, too.

282 00:18:51.540 ⇒ 00:18:52.529 Casie Aviles: Oh, okay.

283 00:18:52.570 ⇒ 00:18:55.429 Mustafa Raja: That’s why I’ll be changing it.

284 00:18:59.450 ⇒ 00:19:03.260 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I think for us, we should… we should invest definitely in….

285 00:19:03.600 ⇒ 00:19:07.440 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, we should really invest in our equipment. And equipment.

286 00:19:08.720 ⇒ 00:19:09.940 Mustafa Raja: Going to improve.

287 00:19:10.350 ⇒ 00:19:11.349 Mustafa Raja: what we do.

288 00:19:11.720 ⇒ 00:19:14.070 Casie Aviles: Yeah, the most expensive thing

289 00:19:14.320 ⇒ 00:19:25.099 Casie Aviles: for me, it’s this… is this laptop. Everything else I have is just, you know, cheap stuff. Like, I don’t even have, like, an ergonomic chair, I just have, like, a plastic chair.

290 00:19:25.100 ⇒ 00:19:27.870 Mustafa Raja: Oh, bro, you should get the cheer at least.

291 00:19:31.510 ⇒ 00:19:36.730 Mustafa Raja: It helps. I feel we should do. We should do whatever.

292 00:19:37.020 ⇒ 00:19:41.829 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like, I’m scared, like, I might get some back problems.

293 00:19:41.830 ⇒ 00:19:45.240 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it… You should, bro.

294 00:19:45.590 ⇒ 00:19:47.409 Mustafa Raja: So, do you know how many control is?

295 00:19:47.970 ⇒ 00:19:52.059 Casie Aviles: Controllers? Yeah, yeah, I do, … I just bought…

296 00:19:52.460 ⇒ 00:19:55.500 Casie Aviles: This was before, during the pandemic.

297 00:19:56.060 ⇒ 00:19:57.649 Casie Aviles: I have, like, a Logitech.

298 00:20:01.410 ⇒ 00:20:03.700 Casie Aviles: Yeah, it’s a Logitech, it’s wired.

299 00:20:04.450 ⇒ 00:20:10.159 Casie Aviles: Do you remember, like, … the Ocean Gate thing?

300 00:20:10.700 ⇒ 00:20:11.590 Mustafa Raja: Nope.

301 00:20:11.810 ⇒ 00:20:12.959 Casie Aviles: You know, the….

302 00:20:12.960 ⇒ 00:20:13.560 Mustafa Raja: I bet.

303 00:20:13.560 ⇒ 00:20:17.160 Casie Aviles: I think it’s those CEOs that died in the submarine.

304 00:20:17.160 ⇒ 00:20:19.079 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah, yeah, I know that.

305 00:20:19.080 ⇒ 00:20:22.869 Casie Aviles: They remember that. Like, yeah, the guy, they were using.

306 00:20:22.870 ⇒ 00:20:31.419 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that. So one of the CEOs that died in that was from Pakistan.

307 00:20:31.420 ⇒ 00:20:32.220 Casie Aviles: Oh….

308 00:20:32.220 ⇒ 00:20:40.289 Mustafa Raja: And that story really blew up over here, because that particular company really works in a lot of stuff over here.

309 00:20:40.290 ⇒ 00:20:40.690 Casie Aviles: I see.

310 00:20:40.690 ⇒ 00:20:43.109 Mustafa Raja: And that guy was pretty popular over here.

311 00:20:44.120 ⇒ 00:20:44.630 Casie Aviles: And so this….

312 00:20:44.630 ⇒ 00:20:51.350 Mustafa Raja: story really blew up in Pakistan, and yeah, I do remember them telling that the equipment had a Logitech.

313 00:20:51.660 ⇒ 00:20:52.430 Casie Aviles: Yeah.

314 00:20:52.430 ⇒ 00:20:53.160 Mustafa Raja: joystick.

315 00:20:53.390 ⇒ 00:20:54.680 Casie Aviles: That’s mine.

316 00:20:54.680 ⇒ 00:20:56.999 Mustafa Raja: To drive the vessel.

317 00:20:57.370 ⇒ 00:20:59.800 Casie Aviles: Yeah, that’s… that’s my controller.

318 00:21:00.260 ⇒ 00:21:05.910 Mustafa Raja: You’ve got good stuff, then. People are using it to get to the Titanic, bro.

319 00:21:06.860 ⇒ 00:21:12.519 Casie Aviles: But, but, but they died. Yeah. Maybe it’s not the controller’s fault.

320 00:21:12.520 ⇒ 00:21:15.050 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, it wouldn’t be controller’s folder, right?

321 00:21:15.490 ⇒ 00:21:15.880 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah.

322 00:21:15.880 ⇒ 00:21:21.899 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, we should confirm if Futum is coming or not, right? Because you’re going to leave in 10 minutes, right?

323 00:21:22.440 ⇒ 00:21:24.440 Casie Aviles: Oh, no, yeah, yeah, yeah.

324 00:21:29.900 ⇒ 00:21:33.449 Casie Aviles: I think he’s offline. He’s probably out now.

325 00:21:34.590 ⇒ 00:21:41.500 Mustafa Raja: Yeah… Yeah, let me know if I should switch.

326 00:21:43.070 ⇒ 00:21:44.830 Mustafa Raja: Sell me this, bro.

327 00:21:44.830 ⇒ 00:21:49.010 Casie Aviles: I mean, if you like the map, it’s fine. Like, for me, I just…

328 00:21:49.210 ⇒ 00:21:53.519 Casie Aviles: You know, I don’t really want to buy a console and then a laptop.

329 00:21:53.600 ⇒ 00:21:55.929 Mustafa Raja: I think for me, I prefer….

330 00:21:56.890 ⇒ 00:22:00.209 Casie Aviles: Just having one device for all of it, but…

331 00:22:00.660 ⇒ 00:22:04.489 Casie Aviles: That’s up to you, it’s… it’s… that’s just me. I don’t…

332 00:22:04.670 ⇒ 00:22:09.359 Casie Aviles: I’d like to have, not… I don’t want to have a lot of stuff, like, if…

333 00:22:09.640 ⇒ 00:22:13.060 Casie Aviles: you know, I guess I think about the utility as much as I can.

334 00:22:13.060 ⇒ 00:22:26.860 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I feel… I feel, if I get the console, I’ll… I’ve heard that the games on console are a lot more expensive than they are on other platforms, like on Windows, for Steam.

335 00:22:27.460 ⇒ 00:22:28.110 Casie Aviles: Yeah.

336 00:22:28.670 ⇒ 00:22:31.040 Mustafa Raja: … much cheaper.

337 00:22:31.880 ⇒ 00:22:33.069 Casie Aviles: Yeah, because….

338 00:22:33.070 ⇒ 00:22:40.810 Mustafa Raja: would be a big point for me. And to be honest, you don’t have to pay for all of the games that you would want to play, to be honest.

339 00:22:40.810 ⇒ 00:22:44.010 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, that’s what I do.

340 00:22:44.470 ⇒ 00:22:45.160 Mustafa Raja: Oh.

341 00:22:45.460 ⇒ 00:22:46.529 Mustafa Raja: From Vedo.

342 00:22:47.870 ⇒ 00:22:50.110 Casie Aviles: Pit girl.

343 00:22:50.110 ⇒ 00:22:50.770 Mustafa Raja: Oh, nice.

344 00:22:50.770 ⇒ 00:22:52.429 Casie Aviles: I don’t know if you know, if it drill.

345 00:22:52.930 ⇒ 00:22:55.130 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I do. I used to have a Windows, though.

346 00:22:56.010 ⇒ 00:22:56.850 Mustafa Raja: I know.

347 00:22:58.270 ⇒ 00:23:07.729 Casie Aviles: Nice, nice, nice. Yeah, that’s where I get most of my stuff, because… I don’t know, I mean, it’s just expensive. It’s an expensive hobby, and I don’t.

348 00:23:07.730 ⇒ 00:23:08.270 Mustafa Raja: I’ll do that.

349 00:23:08.270 ⇒ 00:23:11.360 Casie Aviles: I don’t want to lose money over that.

350 00:23:11.640 ⇒ 00:23:12.370 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

351 00:23:12.860 ⇒ 00:23:18.050 Mustafa Raja: And this is something that you’re going to stop Playing, right?

352 00:23:18.360 ⇒ 00:23:18.860 Mustafa Raja: this kind of.

353 00:23:18.860 ⇒ 00:23:19.709 Casie Aviles: Yeah, that’s true.

354 00:23:19.710 ⇒ 00:23:26.220 Mustafa Raja: There’s going to come a point that, yeah, it’s there, but… But it’s only the now.

355 00:23:26.950 ⇒ 00:23:28.260 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

356 00:23:28.830 ⇒ 00:23:33.159 Mustafa Raja: He’s not going to look back at it and say, yeah, let’s do it again.

357 00:23:33.470 ⇒ 00:23:35.480 Mustafa Raja: So, yeah, it makes sense.

358 00:23:37.000 ⇒ 00:23:42.560 Casie Aviles: I mean… I mean, at least for, like, I guess if it’s just really cheap on Steam, or, like.

359 00:23:42.560 ⇒ 00:23:43.650 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah.

360 00:23:43.650 ⇒ 00:23:46.050 Casie Aviles: studio, maybe I would buy.

361 00:23:46.050 ⇒ 00:23:52.080 Mustafa Raja: I feel… I feel for the… for the indie ones, it really… it really matters.

362 00:23:52.520 ⇒ 00:23:54.100 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, definitely. Divide?

363 00:23:54.740 ⇒ 00:23:58.150 Mustafa Raja: But for the ones that are not indie ones.

364 00:23:58.540 ⇒ 00:24:02.400 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. Yeah, let’s cut some slack first.

365 00:24:03.260 ⇒ 00:24:08.219 Casie Aviles: Yeah, for sure, I mean… They’re, they’re, they’re already, like, big corporations.

366 00:24:08.550 ⇒ 00:24:12.029 Casie Aviles: They probably make a lot of money already.

367 00:24:12.420 ⇒ 00:24:13.090 Mustafa Raja: Yes.

368 00:24:17.530 ⇒ 00:24:20.870 Mustafa Raja: So, are you going to play, or are you going to go to bed?

369 00:24:21.000 ⇒ 00:24:21.650 Mustafa Raja: Or something.

370 00:24:21.650 ⇒ 00:24:26.069 Casie Aviles: I have to go somewhere, actually, but… Oh. I….

371 00:24:26.070 ⇒ 00:24:29.549 Mustafa Raja: Though it’s so… when are you going to sleep, then?

372 00:24:30.370 ⇒ 00:24:34.760 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I don’t know, maybe sometime in the noon.

373 00:24:35.090 ⇒ 00:24:37.529 Mustafa Raja: And how long have you been awake?

374 00:24:38.420 ⇒ 00:24:40.659 Casie Aviles: Today, when did I wake up?

375 00:24:40.800 ⇒ 00:24:48.190 Casie Aviles: I think I’ve been up for, like… 12 hours already.

376 00:24:48.780 ⇒ 00:24:49.900 Mustafa Raja: 12 hours.

377 00:24:50.330 ⇒ 00:24:51.160 Mustafa Raja: Oh.

378 00:24:51.870 ⇒ 00:24:53.150 Mustafa Raja: It’s good, then.

379 00:24:53.360 ⇒ 00:24:57.809 Mustafa Raja: It’s like you’re going to be able to sleep in, like, 6 hours, right?

380 00:24:59.530 ⇒ 00:25:00.370 Casie Aviles: Kicks in the nose.

381 00:25:00.370 ⇒ 00:25:01.630 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it’s good then.

382 00:25:02.960 ⇒ 00:25:06.830 Casie Aviles: And if it’s the weekend anyway, then I can wake up late.

383 00:25:06.830 ⇒ 00:25:09.090 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, that… that works.

384 00:25:10.100 ⇒ 00:25:17.069 Casie Aviles: I think I’ll get, like, a vitamin D deficiency, because I don’t get to see the sunlight anymore.

385 00:25:17.070 ⇒ 00:25:23.880 Mustafa Raja: Oh… I think sunlight really, really doesn’t do too much.

386 00:25:24.090 ⇒ 00:25:29.930 Mustafa Raja: In terms of vitamin D, because it’s… it’s very little what we get from the sun.

387 00:25:29.930 ⇒ 00:25:30.360 Casie Aviles: Oh, really?

388 00:25:30.360 ⇒ 00:25:33.119 Mustafa Raja: We get more from the foods that we eat.

389 00:25:33.260 ⇒ 00:25:37.550 Mustafa Raja: Then we get from the sun, so I think you might be good in terms of that.

390 00:25:38.250 ⇒ 00:25:39.599 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I guess I’ll just eat.

391 00:25:39.870 ⇒ 00:25:41.720 Casie Aviles: I’ll just eat more food.

392 00:25:41.720 ⇒ 00:25:42.920 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, fruits.

393 00:25:43.240 ⇒ 00:25:43.740 Casie Aviles: Oh, for the.

394 00:25:43.740 ⇒ 00:25:44.779 Mustafa Raja: Trust me in.

395 00:25:45.310 ⇒ 00:25:48.170 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I think you’re already very health-conscious, so….

396 00:25:48.370 ⇒ 00:25:51.019 Mustafa Raja: In terms of what you eat and all?

397 00:25:51.610 ⇒ 00:25:52.580 Casie Aviles: I try, I try.

398 00:25:52.580 ⇒ 00:25:53.800 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.

399 00:25:54.280 ⇒ 00:25:56.939 Mustafa Raja: So you’re good, you’re good there, I feel.

400 00:25:57.360 ⇒ 00:25:58.410 Casie Aviles: Yeah, sometimes I.

401 00:25:58.410 ⇒ 00:26:06.250 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I really neglect… I really neglect, good food, to be honest, in terms of healthy… healthy food.

402 00:26:06.460 ⇒ 00:26:08.799 Mustafa Raja: I… I eat a lot of junk.

403 00:26:10.570 ⇒ 00:26:14.080 Mustafa Raja: I like it’s quoted for it, but it is what it is.

404 00:26:14.330 ⇒ 00:26:17.779 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I mean, it’s fine once in a while, because, you know….

405 00:26:18.190 ⇒ 00:26:20.399 Mustafa Raja: Oh, it’s not once in a while for me.

406 00:26:20.400 ⇒ 00:26:21.530 Casie Aviles: Oh.

407 00:26:21.960 ⇒ 00:26:23.619 Mustafa Raja: That’s what the problem is.

408 00:26:24.270 ⇒ 00:26:31.749 Casie Aviles: It’s tasty, and, you know, it’s not… it’s not like we want to live a very strict life, either. Like, sometimes we just want to….

409 00:26:31.750 ⇒ 00:26:34.159 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, sometimes you want to take room, yeah.

410 00:26:34.160 ⇒ 00:26:34.960 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah.

411 00:26:37.750 ⇒ 00:26:41.930 Casie Aviles: But then again, we also want to live a longer life, I guess.

412 00:26:41.930 ⇒ 00:26:42.480 Mustafa Raja: Absolutely.

413 00:26:43.150 ⇒ 00:26:44.549 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it’s a trade-off.

414 00:26:44.730 ⇒ 00:26:46.400 Mustafa Raja: It’s a trade-off, it’s something.

415 00:26:46.400 ⇒ 00:26:46.810 Casie Aviles: Yeah.

416 00:26:46.810 ⇒ 00:26:50.739 Mustafa Raja: We really need to think about, is it really worth it?

417 00:26:51.550 ⇒ 00:26:55.229 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I guess just, you know, balance is key for everything.

418 00:26:55.230 ⇒ 00:27:03.069 Mustafa Raja: Sometimes I… sometimes I get reviews on Instagram on health, and I… I think about the things that I’ve been eating, and…

419 00:27:03.350 ⇒ 00:27:06.349 Mustafa Raja: I’d say, bro, you’re going to get diabetes or something.

420 00:27:08.510 ⇒ 00:27:13.310 Casie Aviles: Yeah, social media doesn’t help sometimes, it makes you feel more guilty about things.

421 00:27:13.310 ⇒ 00:27:14.440 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.

422 00:27:15.790 ⇒ 00:27:17.810 Mustafa Raja: But I think that that’s….

423 00:27:19.140 ⇒ 00:27:20.800 Casie Aviles: That’s not necessarily a bad thing.

424 00:27:20.800 ⇒ 00:27:25.310 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, that’s good in terms that you might read.

425 00:27:25.310 ⇒ 00:27:26.969 Casie Aviles: Yeah, it reminds you.

426 00:27:27.330 ⇒ 00:27:34.079 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it reminds you that you’re not doing a good job in terms of that, so you might want to rethink about that.

427 00:27:34.870 ⇒ 00:27:36.140 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

428 00:27:39.630 ⇒ 00:27:40.840 Mustafa Raja: So, how was your week?

429 00:27:42.240 ⇒ 00:27:48.440 Casie Aviles: my week, I think… Well, it’s still a little busier than usual.

430 00:27:48.760 ⇒ 00:27:50.819 Casie Aviles: I think the only one that…

431 00:27:51.270 ⇒ 00:27:57.790 Casie Aviles: It’s kind of, hectic for me, is, you know, every mor- every start of my shift.

432 00:27:58.950 ⇒ 00:28:01.509 Casie Aviles: With Insomniac, okay, right?

433 00:28:01.510 ⇒ 00:28:04.069 Mustafa Raja: But yeah, you have to do the manual.

434 00:28:04.070 ⇒ 00:28:09.790 Casie Aviles: Yeah, and I always… I have to do the manual thing while developing the automation, so…

435 00:28:10.080 ⇒ 00:28:19.550 Casie Aviles: it’s kind of… I mean, it’s good that I get to know how to do the manual work, which makes it easier to think about the automation.

436 00:28:19.850 ⇒ 00:28:20.420 Mustafa Raja: Yo.

437 00:28:20.420 ⇒ 00:28:24.780 Casie Aviles: But, yeah, it’s… it’s also a challenge to do the… do….

438 00:28:24.780 ⇒ 00:28:32.699 Mustafa Raja: Both of those things at the same time, I guess. Yeah, the time constraint on that is the… is the really… is really the…

439 00:28:32.900 ⇒ 00:28:34.850 Mustafa Raja: The bothering thing would be, right?

440 00:28:34.850 ⇒ 00:28:35.709 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

441 00:28:35.710 ⇒ 00:28:39.569 Mustafa Raja: That it has to be done before this particular time.

442 00:28:40.030 ⇒ 00:28:41.260 Casie Aviles: That’s true, and…

443 00:28:41.570 ⇒ 00:28:51.730 Casie Aviles: what else? Yeah, sometimes I also make a few mistakes, like, I forget to do some parts of it, and it gets pointed out by the client, but…

444 00:28:52.100 ⇒ 00:28:55.110 Casie Aviles: You know, I just fix as I can, as much as I can.

445 00:28:55.420 ⇒ 00:28:57.549 Casie Aviles: I think that’s the most…

446 00:28:58.120 ⇒ 00:29:05.790 Casie Aviles: I guess, yeah, the most challenging for this week. And I’ll still be doing it next week, but at least I have some pro-

447 00:29:06.070 ⇒ 00:29:12.829 Casie Aviles: You know, at least there’s some progress on just automating the entire process, you know?

448 00:29:13.170 ⇒ 00:29:16.180 Casie Aviles: So, maybe in the future, I won’t even know how to do it.

449 00:29:16.860 ⇒ 00:29:18.980 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, no one would have to do it.

450 00:29:19.100 ⇒ 00:29:19.970 Casie Aviles: Yeah.

451 00:29:21.420 ⇒ 00:29:24.190 Casie Aviles: I think that’s about it for me. What about you?

452 00:29:25.770 ⇒ 00:29:27.480 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’ve been, …

453 00:29:28.200 ⇒ 00:29:36.410 Mustafa Raja: I’ve been switching between interlude and Default. I really didn’t get to work for ABC, to be honest.

454 00:29:36.560 ⇒ 00:29:40.350 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, no problem. I mean, I know you’re taking a lot of stuff.

455 00:29:41.320 ⇒ 00:29:45.989 Mustafa Raja: Yeah… I mean, I’m… I’m trying to do what…

456 00:29:46.820 ⇒ 00:29:49.579 Mustafa Raja: … what I need to do to build this.

457 00:29:49.730 ⇒ 00:29:50.550 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

458 00:29:50.550 ⇒ 00:30:03.600 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so for default, it was like, so the… for… let me, let me explain. So, for default, what they wanted is, they wanted to extract,

459 00:30:03.820 ⇒ 00:30:09.759 Mustafa Raja: What… what is the form provider and scheduler provider for a particular website?

460 00:30:09.980 ⇒ 00:30:11.110 Mustafa Raja: ….

461 00:30:11.940 ⇒ 00:30:14.320 Casie Aviles: For example, let’s do….

462 00:30:16.610 ⇒ 00:30:18.170 Mustafa Raja: Oh, I’m too dead.

463 00:30:18.830 ⇒ 00:30:19.580 Mustafa Raja: Hmm.

464 00:30:20.000 ⇒ 00:30:34.650 Mustafa Raja: So for them, this form comes from HubSpot, and they do not have any scheduler, and we do not see it until we get… we submit this form, and nothing pops up. So nothing pops up, and the HTML doesn’t have any scheduler, ….

465 00:30:34.650 ⇒ 00:30:35.070 Casie Aviles: Yeah.

466 00:30:35.070 ⇒ 00:30:41.520 Mustafa Raja: That means, yeah, there’s no sort of calendar integrated to this website, and this form is coming from.

467 00:30:41.520 ⇒ 00:30:43.160 Casie Aviles: Oh, okay.

468 00:30:43.160 ⇒ 00:30:54.960 Mustafa Raja: So my automation for browser revolved a lot around this, and to be honest, the… This thing with….

469 00:30:54.960 ⇒ 00:30:55.470 Casie Aviles: Yeah.

470 00:30:56.220 ⇒ 00:30:57.760 Mustafa Raja: Where have you gone?

471 00:30:59.290 ⇒ 00:31:00.750 Mustafa Raja: There we go!

472 00:31:03.630 ⇒ 00:31:06.220 Mustafa Raja: maybe… Boom.

473 00:31:07.840 ⇒ 00:31:12.500 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I mean, automation is… I mean, browser automation is pretty challenging, I mean.

474 00:31:12.610 ⇒ 00:31:15.669 Casie Aviles: It’s only now that I’m starting to work more.

475 00:31:15.670 ⇒ 00:31:16.680 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this one, this one.

476 00:31:17.660 ⇒ 00:31:17.990 Casie Aviles: Okay.

477 00:31:17.990 ⇒ 00:31:20.699 Mustafa Raja: So this is… This is not good.

478 00:31:21.510 ⇒ 00:31:23.589 Casie Aviles: It’s bad. Yeah, really bad.

479 00:31:23.590 ⇒ 00:31:26.889 Mustafa Raja: And it is really expensive, too.

480 00:31:27.710 ⇒ 00:31:28.220 Casie Aviles: That’s,

481 00:31:28.220 ⇒ 00:31:40.290 Mustafa Raja: This thing, in combination of this, really works wonders, to be honest. And this is how… this is how I was able to, …

482 00:31:40.600 ⇒ 00:31:43.540 Mustafa Raja: make some sort of POC around this.

483 00:31:43.980 ⇒ 00:31:53.710 Mustafa Raja: concept that they… that they had in mind. And it’s now… it’s now really working. We had a demo this week that went somewhat well.

484 00:31:53.930 ⇒ 00:32:09.629 Mustafa Raja: And now, now we… we are going to ship this browser-based integration, to integrate it with the Clay instance, and see how it goes. So… for that, I’m going to connect this to the

485 00:32:09.710 ⇒ 00:32:25.680 Mustafa Raja: Where is this? This, I have connected it to BrowserBase, but this needs to have some sort of server to be… so that I can trigger this, and I can also send back a response, because browser base doesn’t have those sort of integrations.

486 00:32:26.640 ⇒ 00:32:27.789 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

487 00:32:28.110 ⇒ 00:32:31.379 Mustafa Raja: And then there’s one more thing.

488 00:32:32.590 ⇒ 00:32:35.490 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I need to dynamically pass this.

489 00:32:35.740 ⇒ 00:32:41.760 Mustafa Raja: So, browser-based really doesn’t have that much… that good of a support in… in terms of…

490 00:32:41.990 ⇒ 00:32:51.649 Mustafa Raja: APIs and stuff. The only thing browser-based really provide us, in sort of UIs…

491 00:32:52.560 ⇒ 00:33:10.730 Mustafa Raja: Only the playground. We cannot really… there should be something, here, like, like this, for jobs in, Dagster. There should be something over here. You see that there’s no way I can see my script over here, right?

492 00:33:11.440 ⇒ 00:33:12.569 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

493 00:33:12.570 ⇒ 00:33:24.289 Mustafa Raja: There’s no way, because they don’t give us that. We can only… we can only trigger this session locally, and have it connect with this instance to see it in the session.

494 00:33:26.690 ⇒ 00:33:28.599 Mustafa Raja: You see, how….

495 00:33:28.600 ⇒ 00:33:29.070 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah.

496 00:33:29.070 ⇒ 00:33:30.880 Mustafa Raja: Weird this is.

497 00:33:31.060 ⇒ 00:33:41.620 Mustafa Raja: So… so this is… so my concept was, yeah, I should be able to host this on browser base, and I should be able to handle it, but the…

498 00:33:41.980 ⇒ 00:33:56.840 Mustafa Raja: the API isn’t good at all. We can really only get the sessions, and only the logs from the sessions, meaning that this script really isn’t returning any object, to be honest.

499 00:33:57.190 ⇒ 00:33:58.210 Casie Aviles: Oh, yeah.

500 00:33:58.210 ⇒ 00:34:00.970 Mustafa Raja: And even if it is, it’s not being caught by the session.

501 00:34:01.090 ⇒ 00:34:05.180 Mustafa Raja: So, this is why we need a server over it.

502 00:34:05.640 ⇒ 00:34:10.129 Mustafa Raja: … To be able to firstly, pass a parameter.

503 00:34:10.260 ⇒ 00:34:16.849 Mustafa Raja: For which website do we want? And then, … we need to return the results.

504 00:34:17.400 ⇒ 00:34:19.400 Mustafa Raja: Because they are not being returned at all.

505 00:34:21.300 ⇒ 00:34:26.050 Mustafa Raja: And they… we surely do not have any way to return them at all.

506 00:34:26.050 ⇒ 00:34:27.500 Casie Aviles: D-do you need this?

507 00:34:28.030 ⇒ 00:34:30.519 Casie Aviles: How do you plan to deploy this, by the way?

508 00:34:30.520 ⇒ 00:34:31.669 Mustafa Raja: On Heroku.

509 00:34:32.239 ⇒ 00:34:36.629 Casie Aviles: Oh, okay. How… is it scheduled, or how does it work?

510 00:34:37.290 ⇒ 00:34:49.770 Mustafa Raja: So this, I’ll… I’ll deploy… I’ll deploy this on Heroku. Okay. And, firstly, I need to layer it in our server, right? Most likely, it’s going to be an express server.

511 00:34:49.900 ⇒ 00:34:55.879 Mustafa Raja: because this is in, GS, if it were in Python, I would have done…

512 00:34:56.010 ⇒ 00:35:03.580 Mustafa Raja: I’ve done the wrapping in faster pay, it’s a lot better. Yeah, yeah. I’m much more… I have much more familiarity with it, too.

513 00:35:04.290 ⇒ 00:35:17.140 Mustafa Raja: But for now, we’re going to work with Express, do a little bit of scripting, craft an API for that, and then host that on, what’s it called?

514 00:35:17.860 ⇒ 00:35:18.690 Mustafa Raja: Hiroku.

515 00:35:18.830 ⇒ 00:35:30.700 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah. And then, since, since this is now, this is now triggered, sorry, connected with browser-based, prior to this, this was local.

516 00:35:30.990 ⇒ 00:35:31.930 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

517 00:35:31.930 ⇒ 00:35:37.800 Mustafa Raja: Since it was local, it was using my built-in Selenium.

518 00:35:39.380 ⇒ 00:35:40.470 Casie Aviles: Oh, okay.

519 00:35:40.470 ⇒ 00:35:43.720 Mustafa Raja: Meaning my, the Chromium browser that I have.

520 00:35:43.900 ⇒ 00:35:51.259 Mustafa Raja: But now it isn’t. What it does is it runs a session and starts up a browser in browser base.

521 00:35:52.140 ⇒ 00:35:52.770 Casie Aviles: I see.

522 00:35:52.770 ⇒ 00:36:07.859 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so the Heroku, if I were to… if I were to, host this, and I needed, the browser to be working, I would have… I would have needed a Linux instance.

523 00:36:08.740 ⇒ 00:36:10.340 Casie Aviles: That’s so much work.

524 00:36:10.340 ⇒ 00:36:14.520 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, right? I hope I’m able to explain why would I need it, right?

525 00:36:15.870 ⇒ 00:36:16.370 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah.

526 00:36:16.370 ⇒ 00:36:20.360 Mustafa Raja: Because the chromium, it really needs to… startup.

527 00:36:20.560 ⇒ 00:36:21.340 Mustafa Raja: Bye.

528 00:36:21.690 ⇒ 00:36:31.250 Mustafa Raja: And it’s not going to work on any server, it needs to be a VPS or a Linux-based server, or any other operating system, to be honest.

529 00:36:31.760 ⇒ 00:36:43.769 Mustafa Raja: So yeah, the help that I have had in terms of this is that I can run the browser in browser-based, otherwise this would have been a big, big, big task.

530 00:36:44.570 ⇒ 00:36:51.699 Casie Aviles: Yeah, that’s good. I mean, definitely, your work, as I’m seeing it right now, this is a lot more advanced.

531 00:36:51.990 ⇒ 00:36:54.909 Casie Aviles: For me, I’m using browser-based right now, but…

532 00:36:55.160 ⇒ 00:36:58.940 Casie Aviles: It’s… I think it’s just going to be a run every day, like.

533 00:36:58.940 ⇒ 00:37:02.199 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, you… look into this, stagehand.

534 00:37:02.760 ⇒ 00:37:03.540 Casie Aviles: Yeah.

535 00:37:03.900 ⇒ 00:37:12.910 Mustafa Raja: StageHand is going to make your job a lot easier. The barebones browser-based documentation isn’t… isn’t really going to help, to be honest.

536 00:37:13.560 ⇒ 00:37:19.479 Casie Aviles: The other issue that I had was, like, with logins, but I think I was able to.

537 00:37:19.480 ⇒ 00:37:22.169 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah, hmm….

538 00:37:22.170 ⇒ 00:37:23.340 Casie Aviles: That’s what it was.

539 00:37:23.340 ⇒ 00:37:28.629 Mustafa Raja: Create a browser… yeah, I remember… I remember the talk we had about that.

540 00:37:29.050 ⇒ 00:37:30.220 Mustafa Raja: I remember it.

541 00:37:31.150 ⇒ 00:37:33.200 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

542 00:37:33.200 ⇒ 00:37:41.270 Mustafa Raja: I need some sort of… some sort of way, or a browser that has… that already has the login, right?

543 00:37:41.490 ⇒ 00:37:47.210 Casie Aviles: Yes, exactly. I think… the solution that I have there is…

544 00:37:47.660 ⇒ 00:37:53.710 Casie Aviles: I would just log in, and then get the cookies, and then I would give it to BrowserBase.

545 00:37:53.710 ⇒ 00:37:56.890 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, that’s the… yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

546 00:37:56.890 ⇒ 00:38:01.199 Casie Aviles: But I have to… but it will expire, I think, so I have to do it…

547 00:38:01.390 ⇒ 00:38:03.080 Casie Aviles: Again, when it expires.

548 00:38:03.080 ⇒ 00:38:05.520 Mustafa Raja: This isn’t good.

549 00:38:06.850 ⇒ 00:38:10.850 Mustafa Raja: I think browser-based should have this sort of integration, otherwise.

550 00:38:10.970 ⇒ 00:38:15.709 Mustafa Raja: If it doesn’t have this, this is something very basic, to be honest.

551 00:38:17.700 ⇒ 00:38:24.910 Mustafa Raja: If we are talking about browser automations, having sessions.

552 00:38:25.750 ⇒ 00:38:31.090 Mustafa Raja: on certain websites, this should be… Provided by them.

553 00:38:33.330 ⇒ 00:38:41.320 Casie Aviles: Yeah… I was able to do it without, you know, sending cookies, like, with DoorDash.

554 00:38:41.480 ⇒ 00:38:45.029 Casie Aviles: But for Uber, the problem is the catch.

555 00:38:45.030 ⇒ 00:38:50.940 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. Also, Microsoft is very strict in terms of logins, right?

556 00:38:51.300 ⇒ 00:38:53.019 Casie Aviles: Yeah, like.

557 00:38:53.020 ⇒ 00:39:00.279 Mustafa Raja: They really don’t like a person logging in from all over the world, right?

558 00:39:00.280 ⇒ 00:39:06.120 Casie Aviles: Yeah, they don’t want bots to scrape their stuff, I guess, so….

559 00:39:06.120 ⇒ 00:39:06.670 Mustafa Raja: Yes.

560 00:39:06.670 ⇒ 00:39:07.479 Casie Aviles: the problem.

561 00:39:07.480 ⇒ 00:39:09.969 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, to be honest, it really makes sense.

562 00:39:13.370 ⇒ 00:39:16.900 Mustafa Raja: I think they do provide… they’ve….

563 00:39:17.490 ⇒ 00:39:20.540 Casie Aviles: Do they provide automations in their platform?

564 00:39:23.060 ⇒ 00:39:28.019 Casie Aviles: I’m not sure. My initial plan was to just have it again on Dagster.

565 00:39:29.510 ⇒ 00:39:32.019 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah, scheduled thing, right?

566 00:39:32.490 ⇒ 00:39:35.669 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I just scheduled it from Dagster.

567 00:39:36.420 ⇒ 00:39:37.090 Mustafa Raja: in a church.

568 00:39:37.090 ⇒ 00:39:38.780 Casie Aviles: Browser-based supports that.

569 00:39:41.220 ⇒ 00:39:46.220 Mustafa Raja: It does not… even if it does not, we can… we can trigger it, no?

570 00:39:46.600 ⇒ 00:40:05.429 Mustafa Raja: You can do a similar thing, host it on Heroku, connect the browser… connect to the browser-based browser, and then have a layer of tag store over the API that would be hosted in… what’s it called? Heroku.

571 00:40:06.830 ⇒ 00:40:09.359 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, that’s also a good idea.

572 00:40:09.720 ⇒ 00:40:10.370 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

573 00:40:10.550 ⇒ 00:40:16.149 Casie Aviles: I think… oh, sorry, sorry, I think Utam’s gonna come, but… I’m going to….

574 00:40:16.620 ⇒ 00:40:18.679 Mustafa Raja: It’s only 20 minutes left, bro.

575 00:40:18.970 ⇒ 00:40:20.690 Casie Aviles: I might have to bounce….

576 00:40:21.100 ⇒ 00:40:21.750 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

577 00:40:22.130 ⇒ 00:40:24.229 Casie Aviles: Are you going to leave France?

578 00:40:24.230 ⇒ 00:40:25.290 Mustafa Raja: Schedule, no?

579 00:40:25.640 ⇒ 00:40:27.950 Mustafa Raja: Oh, did Jason said something?

580 00:40:28.200 ⇒ 00:40:31.350 Mustafa Raja: Two minutes away from India.

581 00:40:35.590 ⇒ 00:40:38.240 Mustafa Raja: I guess we should reschedule then.

582 00:40:45.140 ⇒ 00:40:46.960 Mustafa Raja: But it was nice talking to you.

583 00:40:48.210 ⇒ 00:40:51.559 Casie Aviles: Yeah… Thank you for the time, definitely.

584 00:40:51.560 ⇒ 00:40:54.070 Mustafa Raja: Oh, bro, no worries.

585 00:40:54.910 ⇒ 00:40:56.039 Mustafa Raja: I loved it.

586 00:40:57.030 ⇒ 00:41:01.319 Casie Aviles: Yeah, it’s good to just, you know, chat sometimes about stuff.

587 00:41:02.870 ⇒ 00:41:03.620 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

588 00:41:04.620 ⇒ 00:41:07.390 Casie Aviles: Okay, yeah, I might have to leave.

589 00:41:07.390 ⇒ 00:41:10.230 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, if you need to bounce, then feel free to.

590 00:41:10.770 ⇒ 00:41:13.799 Mustafa Raja: Okay, yeah, yeah, bye-bye, have a great weekend.

591 00:41:14.260 ⇒ 00:41:16.329 Mustafa Raja: Bye-bye. Have a good weekend.

592 00:44:30.400 ⇒ 00:44:31.290 Uttam Kumaran: Hello.

593 00:44:32.800 ⇒ 00:44:33.829 Mustafa Raja: Hey, how are you?

594 00:44:36.850 ⇒ 00:44:37.660 Mustafa Raja: Hello?

595 00:44:40.160 ⇒ 00:44:41.280 Mustafa Raja: Can you hear me?

596 00:44:48.090 ⇒ 00:44:49.000 Uttam Kumaran: Hello?

597 00:44:49.360 ⇒ 00:44:50.659 Mustafa Raja: Can you hear me?

598 00:44:50.990 ⇒ 00:44:51.710 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.

599 00:44:52.480 ⇒ 00:44:53.699 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, how are you?

600 00:44:54.350 ⇒ 00:44:56.620 Uttam Kumaran: Good, I was gonna ask, did I miss Casey?

601 00:44:56.620 ⇒ 00:45:02.909 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, he just… he just… Left the meeting a few minutes ago.

602 00:45:03.870 ⇒ 00:45:05.259 Uttam Kumaran: That’s fine, no worries.

603 00:45:06.640 ⇒ 00:45:07.500 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

604 00:45:07.650 ⇒ 00:45:13.150 Mustafa Raja: I think we… Yeah, let me know if you should go ahead, or if you need to reschedule something.

605 00:45:13.800 ⇒ 00:45:18.270 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, I kind of just wanted to get some help, like, setting up the…

606 00:45:18.580 ⇒ 00:45:21.279 Uttam Kumaran: platform on my machine, so.

607 00:45:21.280 ⇒ 00:45:23.359 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, let’s do that.

608 00:45:24.270 ⇒ 00:45:25.580 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

609 00:45:26.070 ⇒ 00:45:28.669 Uttam Kumaran: Like, what do you think is best? Like, should I share my screen?

610 00:45:28.670 ⇒ 00:45:29.680 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

611 00:45:32.510 ⇒ 00:45:38.539 Mustafa Raja: Sam did make some changes, but I think those should be in some sort of branch.

612 00:45:40.290 ⇒ 00:45:41.100 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

613 00:45:41.880 ⇒ 00:45:45.770 Mustafa Raja: So we should be able to… run the production thing.

614 00:45:47.020 ⇒ 00:45:48.569 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, I can just get the, ….

615 00:45:49.710 ⇒ 00:45:57.310 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, you would really only need the ENV, and this should… this should be good… good to get go, yeah.

616 00:46:00.410 ⇒ 00:46:01.080 Mustafa Raja: Yep.

617 00:46:02.290 ⇒ 00:46:03.959 Mustafa Raja: Do you have Node installed?

618 00:46:04.670 ⇒ 00:46:05.370 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

619 00:46:05.700 ⇒ 00:46:06.720 Uttam Kumaran: I think so.

620 00:46:12.480 ⇒ 00:46:14.589 Mustafa Raja: Have you worked with Webster forever?

621 00:46:15.690 ⇒ 00:46:20.220 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, a long time ago, I used to do a lot of, like, HTML and, like, jQuery….

622 00:46:20.280 ⇒ 00:46:21.549 Mustafa Raja: No, I really….

623 00:46:21.790 ⇒ 00:46:22.310 Uttam Kumaran: I cut.

624 00:46:22.310 ⇒ 00:46:28.999 Mustafa Raja: I really never… yeah, I really never get to use jQuery. I used to hear about it a lot.

625 00:46:29.290 ⇒ 00:46:31.540 Mustafa Raja: When I was in university, bruh.

626 00:46:31.700 ⇒ 00:46:32.700 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah….

627 00:46:32.700 ⇒ 00:46:40.410 Mustafa Raja: I… I did some of, some, some GS, and then… started doing React.

628 00:46:41.120 ⇒ 00:46:42.310 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay.

629 00:46:42.310 ⇒ 00:46:45.339 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I skipped the jQuery and other stuff.

630 00:46:49.730 ⇒ 00:46:51.960 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so I have this set up.

631 00:46:51.960 ⇒ 00:46:55.130 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, let’s do NPM, NPM install.

632 00:46:57.910 ⇒ 00:47:03.950 Mustafa Raja: And then I’m going to drop in the ENV for you in the Zoom chat.

633 00:47:09.370 ⇒ 00:47:11.259 Mustafa Raja: And then you should be good to go.

634 00:47:28.390 ⇒ 00:47:32.920 Mustafa Raja: platform… Mmm.

635 00:47:43.570 ⇒ 00:47:45.940 Mustafa Raja: You don’t have permissions.

636 00:47:46.190 ⇒ 00:47:48.850 Mustafa Raja: Do sudo npm install, I guess?

637 00:47:53.410 ⇒ 00:47:55.979 Mustafa Raja: Oh, not minus G, to be honest, because…

638 00:47:58.750 ⇒ 00:48:00.640 Mustafa Raja: We wouldn’t want it to be globally.

639 00:48:02.160 ⇒ 00:48:05.160 Mustafa Raja: Okay, oh, I cannot send you the…

640 00:48:06.680 ⇒ 00:48:09.339 Mustafa Raja: We do not really need to fix this.

641 00:48:11.720 ⇒ 00:48:14.969 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, no, this looks fine, or what is… I don’t know what this is.

642 00:48:16.320 ⇒ 00:48:23.330 Mustafa Raja: Hmm… yeah, let’s, … we should… Hmm….

643 00:48:34.790 ⇒ 00:48:35.560 Uttam Kumaran: Whoa.

644 00:48:35.560 ⇒ 00:48:40.520 Mustafa Raja: You’d need to do force if you want to, … Have it work.

645 00:48:41.450 ⇒ 00:48:48.120 Mustafa Raja: But I don’t think we need it, we need that. I’m sending you in Slack the EMV, because I cannot do that in…

646 00:48:48.570 ⇒ 00:48:51.800 Mustafa Raja: Zoom, because it exceeds the character limit.

647 00:48:53.830 ⇒ 00:48:54.620 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

648 00:48:57.290 ⇒ 00:48:58.400 Mustafa Raja: sentence lag.

649 00:49:22.460 ⇒ 00:49:23.580 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

650 00:49:40.060 ⇒ 00:49:41.070 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, how about now?

651 00:49:41.900 ⇒ 00:49:44.370 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I cannot see the….

652 00:49:44.840 ⇒ 00:49:45.550 Uttam Kumaran: Oh.

653 00:49:49.890 ⇒ 00:49:50.960 Uttam Kumaran: Alrighty.

654 00:49:54.960 ⇒ 00:49:55.870 Uttam Kumaran: How about now?

655 00:49:55.870 ⇒ 00:49:56.819 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

656 00:49:56.930 ⇒ 00:50:00.520 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, let’s do npm run delv.

657 00:50:10.440 ⇒ 00:50:16.089 Mustafa Raja: Wait a moment… can you open up the package.json?

658 00:50:26.080 ⇒ 00:50:27.600 Mustafa Raja: on top.

659 00:50:33.280 ⇒ 00:50:34.890 Mustafa Raja: Let’s do NPM start.

660 00:50:58.850 ⇒ 00:51:08.259 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it’s trying to look for, hmm… npm run dev, like, can you, can you scroll a little on, package.json?

661 00:51:09.680 ⇒ 00:51:15.110 Mustafa Raja: And the NPM… NPM Dev, let’s try NPM Dev.

662 00:51:19.730 ⇒ 00:51:21.619 Mustafa Raja: NPM runev again, please.

663 00:51:26.000 ⇒ 00:51:30.279 Mustafa Raja: It’s just command not found, but I… it does work on my end, though.

664 00:51:35.000 ⇒ 00:51:36.729 Mustafa Raja: What did we miss?

665 00:51:44.410 ⇒ 00:51:53.520 Mustafa Raja: Let me actually… see that, … I don’t think I have milestone by… and let’s…

666 00:51:54.150 ⇒ 00:51:56.569 Mustafa Raja: Let’s bring that, and then let’s run it.

667 00:52:01.050 ⇒ 00:52:01.760 Mustafa Raja: Hmm.

668 00:52:02.160 ⇒ 00:52:05.949 Mustafa Raja: It does work. Let’s… let’s delete the node modules.

669 00:52:06.960 ⇒ 00:52:10.350 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think it’s installing, let’s just… let me just try one more time.

670 00:52:13.180 ⇒ 00:52:17.869 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, what I think is, the audit might have, changed something.

671 00:52:22.940 ⇒ 00:52:24.950 Mustafa Raja: Yep, it should have been ordered, ordered.

672 00:52:30.240 ⇒ 00:52:30.930 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

673 00:52:32.220 ⇒ 00:52:35.150 Mustafa Raja: Let’s discard these changes.

674 00:52:38.140 ⇒ 00:52:40.669 Mustafa Raja: So, yeah, we do not push it to….

675 00:52:47.960 ⇒ 00:52:48.660 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

676 00:52:49.330 ⇒ 00:52:54.179 Mustafa Raja: Yeah… This’ll be good to go.

677 00:52:59.350 ⇒ 00:53:00.530 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

678 00:53:00.880 ⇒ 00:53:04.159 Mustafa Raja: One thing that I would want fixed is…

679 00:53:05.020 ⇒ 00:53:11.080 Mustafa Raja: the, if you see the, the meetings, the… oh, it works now.

680 00:53:11.870 ⇒ 00:53:21.990 Mustafa Raja: The pagination was… wasn’t working. We could only look for the first 50 ones, but I see that, now it… the arrow has appeared.

681 00:53:22.710 ⇒ 00:53:25.740 Uttam Kumaran: So what if… let’s, for example, say I want to implement infinite scroll.

682 00:53:26.410 ⇒ 00:53:27.899 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, let’s go to….

683 00:53:27.900 ⇒ 00:53:29.540 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s try to do that, so….

684 00:53:29.540 ⇒ 00:53:30.170 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

685 00:53:30.430 ⇒ 00:53:32.280 Uttam Kumaran: How would I, like….

686 00:53:32.890 ⇒ 00:53:37.840 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, … I would first ask it…

687 00:53:38.330 ⇒ 00:53:41.879 Mustafa Raja: To locate the, dashboard for me.

688 00:53:43.500 ⇒ 00:53:45.700 Uttam Kumaran: So… bond.

689 00:53:47.330 ⇒ 00:53:53.450 Mustafa Raja: Let’s give it… let’s give it the path to this page, and ask it to find that page.

690 00:53:57.470 ⇒ 00:54:00.310 Uttam Kumaran: So I can just say in at dashboard.

691 00:54:01.920 ⇒ 00:54:02.495 Mustafa Raja: No…

692 00:54:04.410 ⇒ 00:54:12.429 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this could work, or app.js, to be honest, because we have our path over there, I feel.

693 00:54:12.860 ⇒ 00:54:15.879 Uttam Kumaran: So if I say, in dashboard, there is a….

694 00:54:15.880 ⇒ 00:54:17.620 Mustafa Raja: There’s a lot of dashboard files.

695 00:54:17.930 ⇒ 00:54:18.830 Uttam Kumaran: Oh.

696 00:54:19.540 ⇒ 00:54:25.959 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so what we want to do… if we want to find something in the, ….

697 00:54:26.580 ⇒ 00:54:27.350 Uttam Kumaran: this one.

698 00:54:27.350 ⇒ 00:54:36.759 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, this one. We need this one, but we want to see how our cursor is going to find it, right?

699 00:54:38.910 ⇒ 00:54:45.290 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so what… so probably what I’ll say is, like, in… at dashboard.js.

700 00:54:45.460 ⇒ 00:54:46.200 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

701 00:54:46.330 ⇒ 00:54:52.850 Uttam Kumaran: is a… list of 50 meetings.

702 00:54:53.010 ⇒ 00:54:55.990 Uttam Kumaran: But you have to paginate.

703 00:54:56.230 ⇒ 00:55:03.520 Uttam Kumaran: I want… want to implement Infinite’s rule.

704 00:55:04.570 ⇒ 00:55:18.630 Uttam Kumaran: But just load… The top 50 to start, and then… As user scrolls, then… Do the independent scroll.

705 00:55:21.090 ⇒ 00:55:23.970 Mustafa Raja: It really does depend on how our….

706 00:55:23.970 ⇒ 00:55:34.540 Uttam Kumaran: One thing I learned is, like, first tell me what your… Plan is… for my… Review?

707 00:55:34.960 ⇒ 00:55:37.679 Uttam Kumaran: before executing.

708 00:55:52.380 ⇒ 00:55:54.140 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this looks good, to be honest.

709 00:56:01.390 ⇒ 00:56:03.299 Uttam Kumaran: This is so complicated.

710 00:56:05.430 ⇒ 00:56:11.590 Uttam Kumaran: Should I just try? Okay, so let me answer questions. One, do you want to keep the current Fast First page?

711 00:56:12.540 ⇒ 00:56:14.959 Uttam Kumaran: What is a fast first-page approach?

712 00:56:17.830 ⇒ 00:56:21.349 Mustafa Raja: This is the first 50 meetings, I believe.

713 00:56:22.140 ⇒ 00:56:31.579 Mustafa Raja: Because it gets that, and it, for the first few seconds, it doesn’t know how many, how many pages, or how many meetings it does have.

714 00:57:21.430 ⇒ 00:57:23.939 Uttam Kumaran: What is this intersection observer?

715 00:57:29.960 ⇒ 00:57:31.820 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I really don’t know about this one.

716 00:57:32.790 ⇒ 00:57:34.309 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, let’s go look it up.

717 00:57:35.530 ⇒ 00:57:41.130 Uttam Kumaran: Enter… Intersection Observer, UPL.

718 00:57:52.480 ⇒ 00:57:55.210 Uttam Kumaran: Alright… Okay, I don’t know.

719 00:59:28.840 ⇒ 00:59:31.259 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so I can just refresh this, right?

720 00:59:39.400 ⇒ 00:59:40.270 Uttam Kumaran: Nice!

721 00:59:41.230 ⇒ 00:59:42.770 Mustafa Raja: This is super good.

722 00:59:43.170 ⇒ 00:59:45.580 Uttam Kumaran: Dude, look, I’m a front-end engineer!

723 00:59:47.550 ⇒ 00:59:48.800 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s go!

724 00:59:48.800 ⇒ 00:59:49.769 Mustafa Raja: works amazing.

725 00:59:53.000 ⇒ 00:59:55.389 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, shit, okay, the whole thing refreshed.

726 00:59:58.640 ⇒ 00:59:59.720 Uttam Kumaran: I just won this….

727 00:59:59.720 ⇒ 01:00:02.909 Mustafa Raja: This is… this is a… this is a good starting point, though, right?

728 01:00:03.510 ⇒ 01:00:04.300 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so….

729 01:00:04.300 ⇒ 01:00:09.070 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, even if it refreshes, we have something to work… work with.

730 01:00:13.700 ⇒ 01:00:18.619 Uttam Kumaran: Next, I want to work on the refresh animation.

731 01:00:18.740 ⇒ 01:00:26.190 Uttam Kumaran: Currently, the entire screen… Minus the nav refreshes.

732 01:00:26.380 ⇒ 01:00:35.350 Uttam Kumaran: I just want the list of meetings to refresh… I’m gonna filter… Changes.

733 01:00:36.230 ⇒ 01:00:45.079 Uttam Kumaran: So this is, like, this is, well, all you do, right? I guess I haven’t done any back-end work. I just want to start with pure front-end, and then you can teach me how to do back-end stuff later.

734 01:00:45.670 ⇒ 01:00:46.290 Mustafa Raja: Yep.

735 01:01:38.500 ⇒ 01:01:41.740 Mustafa Raja: We need to do this for Client Dashboard 2.

736 01:01:42.110 ⇒ 01:01:47.320 Mustafa Raja: Because those dashboards are… Nothing.

737 01:01:48.290 ⇒ 01:01:49.170 Uttam Kumaran: I see.

738 01:01:54.130 ⇒ 01:01:55.050 Uttam Kumaran: Wow.

739 01:01:55.050 ⇒ 01:01:55.780 Mustafa Raja: Yes.

740 01:01:56.680 ⇒ 01:01:59.460 Uttam Kumaran: This is… this is awesome.

741 01:01:59.460 ⇒ 01:02:00.230 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

742 01:02:01.220 ⇒ 01:02:05.899 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so then you’re saying, okay, great, so now that I go into one client.

743 01:02:08.120 ⇒ 01:02:08.820 Mustafa Raja: Oh.

744 01:02:09.800 ⇒ 01:02:10.460 Uttam Kumaran: Oh.

745 01:02:10.460 ⇒ 01:02:12.860 Mustafa Raja: Hmm… Yeah, this is….

746 01:02:12.860 ⇒ 01:02:14.460 Uttam Kumaran: There’s gotta be a scroll.

747 01:02:16.550 ⇒ 01:02:21.110 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this is because this is a different file altogether, no?

748 01:02:21.260 ⇒ 01:02:22.629 Mustafa Raja: the client dashboard.

749 01:02:24.980 ⇒ 01:02:32.960 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it is. … Let’s go… Yeah.

750 01:02:33.390 ⇒ 01:02:35.509 Uttam Kumaran: But these don’t have any scroll at all.

751 01:02:36.730 ⇒ 01:02:38.060 Uttam Kumaran: You can see everything.

752 01:02:38.060 ⇒ 01:02:44.299 Mustafa Raja: And the… I think these are still looking for a, …

753 01:02:44.800 ⇒ 01:02:48.070 Mustafa Raja: Page change thing that we had before.

754 01:02:49.250 ⇒ 01:02:49.729 Mustafa Raja: And then….

755 01:02:49.730 ⇒ 01:02:52.670 Uttam Kumaran: Because this is 106 meetings.

756 01:02:53.950 ⇒ 01:02:55.179 Uttam Kumaran: And it looks okay.

757 01:02:56.270 ⇒ 01:02:58.750 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, is this all the… all of the meetings?

758 01:02:59.110 ⇒ 01:02:59.790 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

759 01:03:00.440 ⇒ 01:03:02.129 Mustafa Raja: And if we go to ABC…

760 01:03:14.530 ⇒ 01:03:20.660 Mustafa Raja: Then, okay, yeah, it works. I think that then it’s putting all of them, all of the meetings for these.

761 01:03:23.560 ⇒ 01:03:26.789 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, this is great. Oh, but look at the headers messed up.

762 01:03:29.480 ⇒ 01:03:31.120 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, wait, no, that’s fine, right?

763 01:03:33.160 ⇒ 01:03:38.309 Mustafa Raja: I don’t remember, let me… Let me see… yeah, yeah, yeah, this is good.

764 01:03:38.700 ⇒ 01:03:39.480 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay.

765 01:03:39.480 ⇒ 01:03:42.330 Mustafa Raja: It’s this. Yeah, it’s the right one.

766 01:03:44.360 ⇒ 01:03:46.820 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great. What else can we fix?

767 01:03:47.250 ⇒ 01:03:47.850 Uttam Kumaran: ….

768 01:03:47.850 ⇒ 01:03:49.329 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, what is that?

769 01:03:55.310 ⇒ 01:03:58.919 Uttam Kumaran: So, another thing is, I want this to fully expand every time.

770 01:03:59.820 ⇒ 01:04:03.020 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, you can, you can say that, in the….

771 01:04:03.860 ⇒ 01:04:08.559 Uttam Kumaran: So, for this one, I should go to… Marketing assets, right?

772 01:04:09.070 ⇒ 01:04:16.919 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, one way I would suggest you can find these files would be, if you go to app.js.

773 01:04:18.070 ⇒ 01:04:20.009 Mustafa Raja: Below, below, below, below, below.

774 01:04:20.720 ⇒ 01:04:22.310 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, abdogs.

775 01:04:22.670 ⇒ 01:04:26.020 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, you see, this is where we declare the routes.

776 01:04:26.520 ⇒ 01:04:31.610 Mustafa Raja: … Yeah, so this is going to… yeah, or PDF Viewer.

777 01:04:32.030 ⇒ 01:04:35.490 Mustafa Raja: If you… if you come over to the code, Come over.

778 01:04:35.490 ⇒ 01:04:37.550 Uttam Kumaran: Marketing, marketing assets, right.

779 01:04:37.550 ⇒ 01:04:46.639 Mustafa Raja: If you control-click the thing, it’s going to… no, no, no, the org PDF viewer tag, org command control it.

780 01:04:47.310 ⇒ 01:04:48.970 Mustafa Raja: Sorry, command-click it.

781 01:04:50.820 ⇒ 01:04:52.299 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, you’re in the fight.

782 01:04:55.120 ⇒ 01:04:59.270 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, over here, you can tell it what you… what you want to do with it.

783 01:05:00.400 ⇒ 01:05:02.010 Uttam Kumaran: So, I’m gonna say…

784 01:05:02.670 ⇒ 01:05:06.269 Uttam Kumaran: Well, what I… I’m gonna try this. I’m gonna say, this is what it looks like.

785 01:05:07.060 ⇒ 01:05:07.760 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

786 01:05:09.780 ⇒ 01:05:12.499 Mustafa Raja: Oh, so when it opens up, you want it all expanded.

787 01:05:13.280 ⇒ 01:05:18.290 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, when I arrive at… the…

788 01:05:19.910 ⇒ 01:05:21.810 Uttam Kumaran: And this is… what route is this?

789 01:05:24.390 ⇒ 01:05:32.949 Mustafa Raja: Oh, what you can do is come over here, … yeah, yeah, see? If you press add, you can directly…

790 01:05:33.170 ⇒ 01:05:33.790 Mustafa Raja: ….

791 01:05:33.790 ⇒ 01:05:36.960 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, but it’s gonna know, because it knows I have this tab open.

792 01:05:38.180 ⇒ 01:05:39.499 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah, that too.

793 01:05:39.770 ⇒ 01:05:44.900 Uttam Kumaran: This is what happens when I arrive at the Marketing Assets page. I actually want…

794 01:05:50.020 ⇒ 01:05:56.789 Uttam Kumaran: the top level… Sales holder to be expanded.

795 01:05:56.930 ⇒ 01:05:58.400 Uttam Kumaran: by default.

796 01:06:00.010 ⇒ 01:06:01.340 Uttam Kumaran: by default.

797 01:06:01.450 ⇒ 01:06:02.820 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s see what happens.

798 01:06:17.280 ⇒ 01:06:18.180 Uttam Kumaran: Hmm.

799 01:06:26.250 ⇒ 01:06:26.800 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

800 01:06:27.170 ⇒ 01:06:28.020 Mustafa Raja: Nice.

801 01:06:33.810 ⇒ 01:06:35.459 Uttam Kumaran: Wow, this is so fun.

802 01:06:36.130 ⇒ 01:06:36.840 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

803 01:06:37.600 ⇒ 01:06:38.560 Uttam Kumaran: Feeling great.

804 01:06:42.050 ⇒ 01:06:45.480 Uttam Kumaran: So, I mean… To do the departments.

805 01:06:45.640 ⇒ 01:06:47.759 Uttam Kumaran: I have… we have to do back-end stuff, right?

806 01:06:48.510 ⇒ 01:06:58.740 Mustafa Raja: To do departments, yeah, we really have shifted everything from Superbase Do the backend.

807 01:07:00.520 ⇒ 01:07:01.020 Mustafa Raja: But….

808 01:07:01.460 ⇒ 01:07:02.090 Uttam Kumaran: Kind of weird.

809 01:07:02.090 ⇒ 01:07:02.580 Mustafa Raja: So….

810 01:07:02.580 ⇒ 01:07:06.780 Uttam Kumaran: Where’s the… where’s the stuff for this? The logic for this?

811 01:07:06.780 ⇒ 01:07:10.659 Mustafa Raja: in… There’s a deals dashboard.

812 01:07:10.860 ⇒ 01:07:14.050 Mustafa Raja: Also, this deals and deals dashboard.

813 01:07:14.960 ⇒ 01:07:17.099 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this is the stuff.

814 01:07:20.820 ⇒ 01:07:23.510 Mustafa Raja: And, … Cool.

815 01:07:24.590 ⇒ 01:07:27.479 Mustafa Raja: If you want to do the… what’s it called?

816 01:07:28.710 ⇒ 01:07:40.239 Mustafa Raja: departments thing, the ENV4 Superbase is there, so you should be able to do it, and we can migrate that logic, some parts of that logic to backend later.

817 01:07:41.170 ⇒ 01:07:45.250 Mustafa Raja: Okay. Play with that.

818 01:07:45.250 ⇒ 01:07:46.110 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s get on.

819 01:07:46.460 ⇒ 01:07:47.370 Mustafa Raja: given you.

820 01:07:48.120 ⇒ 01:07:50.800 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so let me, let me just go ahead and, …

821 01:07:50.990 ⇒ 01:07:55.019 Uttam Kumaran: One thing I’m gonna do is gonna say add kit, So I’m gonna commit this.

822 01:07:56.340 ⇒ 01:07:57.490 Uttam Kumaran: And then I’m gonna say at.

823 01:07:57.590 ⇒ 01:07:58.490 Uttam Kumaran: Git.

824 01:07:59.640 ⇒ 01:08:08.649 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna say… generate me a PR description, no emojis, all marked down.

825 01:08:09.750 ⇒ 01:08:18.269 Uttam Kumaran: Then what I’m gonna do is… go here… Branch, create pull request… Folish the branch.

826 01:08:25.069 ⇒ 01:08:31.190 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna remove this… Gonna go back the cursor… I copy this…

827 01:08:31.380 ⇒ 01:08:38.729 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna paste this in here… Maybe this, this… What’s… Yes.

828 01:08:40.970 ⇒ 01:08:43.140 Uttam Kumaran: And then, I’m gonna create this.

829 01:08:44.240 ⇒ 01:08:48.029 Uttam Kumaran: Now, let’s try to… let’s… let’s actually try to use the bug bot.

830 01:08:48.540 ⇒ 01:08:50.200 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna put a pressure.

831 01:08:50.810 ⇒ 01:08:53.190 Uttam Kumaran: See if it makes sure it’s, it’s in here.

832 01:08:54.470 ⇒ 01:08:55.750 Uttam Kumaran: Dashboard.

833 01:08:56.990 ⇒ 01:09:02.560 Uttam Kumaran: God bought… Brain Forge.

834 01:09:04.670 ⇒ 01:09:08.639 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so I want to go back to GitHub, let’s go check the app.

835 01:09:28.090 ⇒ 01:09:29.580 Uttam Kumaran: Okay….

836 01:09:31.520 ⇒ 01:09:33.180 Mustafa Raja: Web platform.

837 01:09:36.830 ⇒ 01:09:37.779 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this one.

838 01:09:40.479 ⇒ 01:09:42.129 Uttam Kumaran: Where else do we want this?

839 01:09:43.380 ⇒ 01:09:45.289 Mustafa Raja: Aigs backend, I guess?

840 01:09:47.350 ⇒ 01:09:48.479 Uttam Kumaran: Anywhere else?

841 01:09:49.700 ⇒ 01:09:55.990 Mustafa Raja: I think these are the two most frequently used ones for us.

842 01:09:56.790 ⇒ 01:09:57.520 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

843 01:10:03.850 ⇒ 01:10:06.449 Uttam Kumaran: Great, so I’m gonna enable it for this.

844 01:10:07.660 ⇒ 01:10:08.520 Uttam Kumaran: And…

845 01:10:16.640 ⇒ 01:10:21.789 Uttam Kumaran: I’m going to… I have to do at.

846 01:10:22.660 ⇒ 01:10:23.930 Uttam Kumaran: What is it again?

847 01:10:29.040 ⇒ 01:10:30.350 Mustafa Raja: Do you like ARC?

848 01:10:31.470 ⇒ 01:10:32.650 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I love ARC.

849 01:10:33.180 ⇒ 01:10:38.130 Mustafa Raja: I used to have it, but… I didn’t really get… respond with it.

850 01:10:39.570 ⇒ 01:10:42.120 Uttam Kumaran: I have so many tabs, dude, I have to have this.

851 01:10:42.570 ⇒ 01:10:44.969 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. Yeah, it works for this.

852 01:10:46.850 ⇒ 01:10:49.170 Uttam Kumaran: So, how do I….

853 01:10:54.210 ⇒ 01:11:00.219 Mustafa Raja: I heard they did leak some of the data because they didn’t have the Firebase perfectly….

854 01:11:00.790 ⇒ 01:11:01.440 Uttam Kumaran: Park?

855 01:11:01.930 ⇒ 01:11:02.620 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

856 01:11:03.660 ⇒ 01:11:07.119 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, they did. It’s not a great company, but I like the product.

857 01:11:07.530 ⇒ 01:11:08.180 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

858 01:11:10.300 ⇒ 01:11:11.849 Uttam Kumaran: They’re trying to do this browser.

859 01:11:15.410 ⇒ 01:11:17.020 Mustafa Raja: They already have a browser.

860 01:11:17.740 ⇒ 01:11:18.900 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, they made a new one.

861 01:11:20.200 ⇒ 01:11:21.370 Mustafa Raja: Dad with dabs.

862 01:11:21.610 ⇒ 01:11:24.709 Mustafa Raja: Hmm, yeah, this is going to… this is going to be good.

863 01:11:25.430 ⇒ 01:11:26.709 Mustafa Raja: If they do this.

864 01:11:27.530 ⇒ 01:11:29.289 Uttam Kumaran: Basically, it’s like AI everywhere.

865 01:11:29.460 ⇒ 01:11:30.240 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

866 01:11:30.750 ⇒ 01:11:32.390 Mustafa Raja: Every page has an AI.

867 01:11:32.650 ⇒ 01:11:33.480 Uttam Kumaran: Dad.

868 01:11:34.590 ⇒ 01:11:35.619 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this is good.

869 01:11:37.320 ⇒ 01:11:39.599 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I might… I might get that one.

870 01:11:43.870 ⇒ 01:11:47.410 Uttam Kumaran: Great, okay, so this is Brainforward web platform.

871 01:11:49.500 ⇒ 01:11:50.590 Uttam Kumaran: Running, or what?

872 01:12:15.890 ⇒ 01:12:20.580 Mustafa Raja: You did do this, on one of my PRs, and it did work.

873 01:12:22.990 ⇒ 01:12:26.309 Mustafa Raja: Let me see what was the command.

874 01:12:28.430 ⇒ 01:12:30.000 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, bug bot run, no?

875 01:12:30.900 ⇒ 01:12:32.240 Uttam Kumaran: at cursor Review.

876 01:12:35.140 ⇒ 01:12:35.750 Mustafa Raja: Oh.

877 01:12:36.020 ⇒ 01:12:40.619 Mustafa Raja: But you did this… on my PR.

878 01:12:41.250 ⇒ 01:12:43.060 Mustafa Raja: Oh, this one.

879 01:12:54.240 ⇒ 01:12:56.050 Mustafa Raja: Let’s see what it finds.

880 01:13:18.650 ⇒ 01:13:20.120 Mustafa Raja: It takes some time.

881 01:13:21.540 ⇒ 01:13:24.910 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, but how about, this one, there’s no, Heroku…

882 01:13:25.810 ⇒ 01:13:27.560 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, there’s a deployment, never mind.

883 01:13:28.940 ⇒ 01:13:31.440 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this one is a review app.

884 01:13:32.210 ⇒ 01:13:32.970 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

885 01:13:32.970 ⇒ 01:13:37.120 Mustafa Raja: This isn’t… this didn’t get published to the main thing.

886 01:13:39.150 ⇒ 01:13:40.669 Mustafa Raja: Which is what we want, right?

887 01:13:42.040 ⇒ 01:13:44.390 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, but I want to just confirm it’s working here, right?

888 01:13:44.390 ⇒ 01:13:45.310 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.

889 01:13:46.840 ⇒ 01:13:47.490 Mustafa Raja: Super cool.

890 01:13:50.370 ⇒ 01:13:51.510 Uttam Kumaran: Noise.

891 01:13:53.140 ⇒ 01:13:53.860 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

892 01:14:42.710 ⇒ 01:14:44.309 Uttam Kumaran: It’ll be taking some time.

893 01:14:45.030 ⇒ 01:14:47.629 Mustafa Raja: Hmm, this is taking a lot of time, to be honest.

894 01:14:48.290 ⇒ 01:14:51.290 Mustafa Raja: The PR wasn’t really that big.

895 01:15:16.210 ⇒ 01:15:17.870 Mustafa Raja: This is the graphite one, no?

896 01:15:19.460 ⇒ 01:15:21.900 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, this is graphite, and there’s a pressure one.

897 01:15:22.490 ⇒ 01:15:23.270 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

898 01:15:23.530 ⇒ 01:15:24.090 Mustafa Raja: This one….

899 01:15:24.620 ⇒ 01:15:27.200 Uttam Kumaran: I have both of them competing.

900 01:15:27.200 ⇒ 01:15:28.205 Mustafa Raja: Oh….

901 01:15:30.470 ⇒ 01:15:31.790 Uttam Kumaran: Who’s gonna be the winner?

902 01:15:36.890 ⇒ 01:15:38.600 Mustafa Raja: Security vulnerability.

903 01:15:42.090 ⇒ 01:15:46.109 Mustafa Raja: Security one would be… Something important.

904 01:15:47.260 ⇒ 01:15:48.219 Mustafa Raja: You cannot do.

905 01:15:49.820 ⇒ 01:15:51.170 Mustafa Raja: True, triple…

906 01:16:16.300 ⇒ 01:16:17.870 Mustafa Raja: What does it say?

907 01:16:17.870 ⇒ 01:16:18.520 Uttam Kumaran: Personally.

908 01:16:26.500 ⇒ 01:16:28.270 Mustafa Raja: Filter change history.

909 01:16:28.270 ⇒ 01:16:33.839 Uttam Kumaran: Filtering logic is when filter changes trigger a refresh, refreshes only the initial page.

910 01:16:34.550 ⇒ 01:16:40.250 Uttam Kumaran: Since filtering is client-side, users mishmashing records beyond the first page.

911 01:16:40.660 ⇒ 01:16:41.960 Mustafa Raja: Oh….

912 01:16:41.960 ⇒ 01:16:42.919 Uttam Kumaran: I set it up.

913 01:16:43.240 ⇒ 01:16:44.409 Mustafa Raja: I know what the….

914 01:16:44.910 ⇒ 01:16:45.869 Uttam Kumaran: What does that mean?

915 01:16:46.970 ⇒ 01:16:49.059 Mustafa Raja: But I think this is.

916 01:16:49.060 ⇒ 01:16:50.849 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, look, yeah, it’s not working.

917 01:16:51.090 ⇒ 01:16:51.710 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

918 01:16:53.620 ⇒ 01:16:55.000 Uttam Kumaran: The filter’s not working.

919 01:16:56.810 ⇒ 01:16:57.880 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s try it.

920 01:16:59.950 ⇒ 01:17:01.439 Mustafa Raja: All good, guys, to be honest.

921 01:17:54.880 ⇒ 01:17:58.109 Mustafa Raja: Oh, we had to accept that.

922 01:17:59.410 ⇒ 01:18:00.280 Uttam Kumaran: What the heck?

923 01:18:02.500 ⇒ 01:18:03.300 Uttam Kumaran: Oh.

924 01:18:08.910 ⇒ 01:18:12.980 Mustafa Raja: Remove, revisitan… Hmm.

925 01:18:18.380 ⇒ 01:18:19.730 Uttam Kumaran: Not working anymore.

926 01:18:24.790 ⇒ 01:18:26.300 Uttam Kumaran: I need this, though.

927 01:18:28.500 ⇒ 01:18:31.530 Mustafa Raja: What was causing unnecessary API calls.

928 01:18:44.680 ⇒ 01:18:50.739 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this isn’t the correct one, right? It should start from first and go….

929 01:18:50.740 ⇒ 01:18:51.259 Uttam Kumaran: None of it.

930 01:18:51.260 ⇒ 01:18:53.840 Mustafa Raja: No, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there’s not… yeah….

931 01:18:53.990 ⇒ 01:18:55.850 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, actually, this is good, this is working.

932 01:18:55.850 ⇒ 01:18:57.019 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this is good.

933 01:18:58.680 ⇒ 01:18:59.840 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.

934 01:19:00.110 ⇒ 01:19:05.710 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, we were ringing without any… Cons… Real concern, to be honest.

935 01:19:07.340 ⇒ 01:19:10.530 Uttam Kumaran: I’m also gonna add… I wanna add some, like, helpful, like.

936 01:19:12.270 ⇒ 01:19:15.389 Uttam Kumaran: Last 7 days, last 14 days, stuff like that.

937 01:19:15.530 ⇒ 01:19:16.690 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah.

938 01:19:17.580 ⇒ 01:19:19.330 Mustafa Raja: Quick ones, quick filters.

939 01:19:24.640 ⇒ 01:19:26.170 Mustafa Raja: How do you think, to be honest?

940 01:19:26.570 ⇒ 01:19:27.120 Mustafa Raja: These sort of.

941 01:19:27.120 ⇒ 01:19:27.840 Uttam Kumaran: Huh?

942 01:19:28.180 ⇒ 01:19:30.790 Mustafa Raja: the… the ideas. How do you think about them?

943 01:19:33.680 ⇒ 01:19:38.200 Uttam Kumaran: I just… I use this every day, so I’m like, I want this, I want this.

944 01:19:38.600 ⇒ 01:19:42.180 Mustafa Raja: I want… I want to know how you vision it.

945 01:19:43.250 ⇒ 01:19:47.980 Uttam Kumaran: This month… yeah, that’s true. Well, dude, I used to… I learned about… I used to build products.

946 01:19:48.580 ⇒ 01:19:50.689 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I, I lied, I lied.

947 01:19:50.690 ⇒ 01:19:54.380 Uttam Kumaran: I used to go, like, study how products are built, like…

948 01:19:54.590 ⇒ 01:19:57.000 Uttam Kumaran: for example, I would open up Google Maps.

949 01:19:57.150 ⇒ 01:19:58.550 Uttam Kumaran: And I would look at, like.

950 01:19:58.850 ⇒ 01:20:00.900 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, how are they doing the mana bar?

951 01:20:01.400 ⇒ 01:20:03.100 Uttam Kumaran: How are they doing the settings?

952 01:20:03.490 ⇒ 01:20:04.950 Uttam Kumaran: How are they doing designs?

953 01:20:04.950 ⇒ 01:20:10.000 Mustafa Raja: So you, so you do your research sort of thing, like this?

954 01:20:10.000 ⇒ 01:20:11.390 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

955 01:20:12.870 ⇒ 01:20:22.679 Uttam Kumaran: Then we go through every… I said, okay, let’s… today we’re going to learn about settings. Every application we use, we’re going to go through the settings, and we’re going to learn what it’s like to build a settings page.

956 01:20:23.710 ⇒ 01:20:27.979 Uttam Kumaran: You know, after doing that for some time, you start to get an understanding of basics, like….

957 01:20:27.980 ⇒ 01:20:28.620 Mustafa Raja: Ugh….

958 01:20:29.260 ⇒ 01:20:29.830 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

959 01:20:30.280 ⇒ 01:20:32.089 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I need to do this.

960 01:20:36.190 ⇒ 01:20:40.980 Mustafa Raja: I sort of need to… Need to have some sort of vision on….

961 01:20:42.140 ⇒ 01:20:43.770 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that’s exactly right.

962 01:20:43.770 ⇒ 01:20:47.999 Mustafa Raja: Having the idea what should be the next step, and what should be the next feature.

963 01:20:48.410 ⇒ 01:20:49.580 Mustafa Raja: Something like that.

964 01:21:06.500 ⇒ 01:21:08.400 Mustafa Raja: What Monitas do you use?

965 01:21:09.340 ⇒ 01:21:10.190 Uttam Kumaran: Alright.

966 01:21:10.510 ⇒ 01:21:13.040 Mustafa Raja: What monitors do you use?

967 01:21:13.370 ⇒ 01:21:15.200 Mustafa Raja: I’m….

968 01:21:15.320 ⇒ 01:21:19.310 Uttam Kumaran: I have a Samsung… yeah, I have two Samsungs and a Dell monitor.

969 01:21:19.980 ⇒ 01:21:21.429 Mustafa Raja: Which one do you like the most?

970 01:21:22.440 ⇒ 01:21:25.749 Uttam Kumaran: the Samsung… Samsung have a curved Samsung monitor?

971 01:21:26.450 ⇒ 01:21:29.530 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’m planning on getting… 1…

972 01:21:30.420 ⇒ 01:21:32.380 Mustafa Raja: Nice. A new one, so yeah.

973 01:21:32.980 ⇒ 01:21:34.570 Mustafa Raja: getting recommendations.

974 01:22:14.240 ⇒ 01:22:15.680 Mustafa Raja: Do we need to accept it?

975 01:22:16.190 ⇒ 01:22:16.890 Uttam Kumaran: Oh.

976 01:22:18.250 ⇒ 01:22:20.570 Mustafa Raja: Why is it popping up the accept button?

977 01:22:20.570 ⇒ 01:22:24.340 Uttam Kumaran: I need to make it… I didn’t allow… I don’t allow it to go without me approving.

978 01:22:24.710 ⇒ 01:22:25.140 Mustafa Raja: ….

979 01:22:25.140 ⇒ 01:22:26.020 Uttam Kumaran: I can.

980 01:22:31.020 ⇒ 01:22:32.640 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, we need to get…

981 01:22:33.050 ⇒ 01:22:37.869 Mustafa Raja: we need to… MUI is really, really old stuff.

982 01:22:38.680 ⇒ 01:22:46.530 Mustafa Raja: for UI, I guess when we would be moving towards, Next.js, we can use…

983 01:22:49.750 ⇒ 01:22:50.939 Mustafa Raja: Some of this stuff.

984 01:22:52.570 ⇒ 01:22:54.750 Uttam Kumaran: Dude, AI’s so crazy.

985 01:22:55.490 ⇒ 01:22:56.230 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

986 01:22:59.210 ⇒ 01:23:01.040 Mustafa Raja: Is it going to take our jobs?

987 01:23:02.360 ⇒ 01:23:05.649 Uttam Kumaran: No, dude, no way. There’s so much work to do.

988 01:23:05.650 ⇒ 01:23:06.200 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

989 01:23:08.100 ⇒ 01:23:11.409 Uttam Kumaran: It’s crazy, there’s so much work we could do.

990 01:23:15.310 ⇒ 01:23:16.120 Uttam Kumaran: Huh?

991 01:23:18.810 ⇒ 01:23:20.519 Mustafa Raja: Let’s begin the quick ones.

992 01:23:58.220 ⇒ 01:23:59.110 Uttam Kumaran: Hmm?

993 01:24:02.370 ⇒ 01:24:03.599 Mustafa Raja: Refresh it, maybe?

994 01:24:17.470 ⇒ 01:24:19.620 Uttam Kumaran: It changed so much stuff.

995 01:24:20.360 ⇒ 01:24:25.179 Mustafa Raja: Oh… You change a lot of stuff in app.js.

996 01:24:27.040 ⇒ 01:24:28.830 Mustafa Raja: It should not have.

997 01:24:30.290 ⇒ 01:24:31.190 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

998 01:24:36.700 ⇒ 01:24:39.809 Mustafa Raja: Oh, really, it didn’t change a lot, to be honest.

999 01:24:40.300 ⇒ 01:24:42.999 Mustafa Raja: Localized provider, why is it using that?

1000 01:24:48.280 ⇒ 01:24:52.749 Mustafa Raja: Oh, he might be using that to get the… affiliate or something.

1001 01:24:56.330 ⇒ 01:24:58.260 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, and… oh, this is down a lot.

1002 01:25:01.790 ⇒ 01:25:04.050 Mustafa Raja: Oh, bro.

1003 01:25:04.830 ⇒ 01:25:12.519 Mustafa Raja: Oh, no, no, no, you ran the app on, Cursor Dev, no? On the right side of your terminal.

1004 01:25:13.840 ⇒ 01:25:15.290 Mustafa Raja: There’s a cursor dev.

1005 01:25:17.630 ⇒ 01:25:18.260 Uttam Kumaran: ….

1006 01:25:19.190 ⇒ 01:25:22.000 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, let’s give it the error. We have the error over here.

1007 01:25:22.920 ⇒ 01:25:24.589 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, I see, I see, I see.

1008 01:25:25.490 ⇒ 01:25:28.299 Mustafa Raja: No, no, no, no, yeah, this one, this one.

1009 01:25:29.440 ⇒ 01:25:33.219 Mustafa Raja: Those are the unused, imports only.

1010 01:25:39.390 ⇒ 01:25:47.349 Mustafa Raja: Find it, because… Bro, it’s going into node modules.

1011 01:26:06.670 ⇒ 01:26:07.350 Mustafa Raja: Hmm.

1012 01:26:09.210 ⇒ 01:26:10.810 Mustafa Raja: Britain further.

1013 01:26:11.050 ⇒ 01:26:15.980 Mustafa Raja: inferred a component that MUI had, but MUI did not have it.

1014 01:26:20.380 ⇒ 01:26:22.600 Mustafa Raja: So it’s doing that custom thing now.

1015 01:26:33.020 ⇒ 01:26:37.089 Mustafa Raja: What were the products that you work on? Would I know any of them?

1016 01:26:38.720 ⇒ 01:26:44.020 Uttam Kumaran: … I don’t know, like, this company, I built the…

1017 01:26:44.470 ⇒ 01:26:47.369 Uttam Kumaran: I led… I was leading product at this company.

1018 01:26:51.740 ⇒ 01:26:54.040 Uttam Kumaran: They changed our old website and stuff, but…

1019 01:27:00.690 ⇒ 01:27:04.540 Uttam Kumaran: So see, like, see these? I’ve designed these pro- these things.

1020 01:27:04.910 ⇒ 01:27:05.680 Mustafa Raja: -Oh.

1021 01:27:06.710 ⇒ 01:27:07.460 Uttam Kumaran: Wow.

1022 01:27:08.400 ⇒ 01:27:09.160 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

1023 01:27:09.780 ⇒ 01:27:11.890 Uttam Kumaran: And I left that company because they sucked.

1024 01:27:12.740 ⇒ 01:27:14.950 Uttam Kumaran: Of this company.

1025 01:27:23.700 ⇒ 01:27:25.750 Uttam Kumaran: The site is so slow, I don’t know.

1026 01:27:35.480 ⇒ 01:27:36.829 Uttam Kumaran: It’s not even loading.

1027 01:27:38.350 ⇒ 01:27:41.910 Mustafa Raja: Was it like that when… When you were there, too?

1028 01:27:44.040 ⇒ 01:27:45.139 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t even know.

1029 01:27:48.120 ⇒ 01:27:48.980 Uttam Kumaran: Whoa.

1030 01:27:49.500 ⇒ 01:27:51.819 Uttam Kumaran: Either way, this would become late.

1031 01:28:00.600 ⇒ 01:28:02.949 Uttam Kumaran: For some reason, their homepage is broken, but…

1032 01:28:04.720 ⇒ 01:28:08.319 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, like, this is the analytics product that I developed.

1033 01:28:13.720 ⇒ 01:28:14.380 Mustafa Raja: So….

1034 01:28:15.760 ⇒ 01:28:19.939 Uttam Kumaran: But, like, this is all, like, not even accurate, they just did all designs. Wow, so…

1035 01:28:20.100 ⇒ 01:28:24.330 Uttam Kumaran: If I open the product, you can see it, but… Yeah…

1036 01:28:24.430 ⇒ 01:28:28.810 Uttam Kumaran: No longer. This is… I don’t do… now, this is the only product I work on now.

1037 01:28:29.770 ⇒ 01:28:31.079 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this is good.

1038 01:28:35.540 ⇒ 01:28:37.640 Mustafa Raja: Have you guys dance field.

1039 01:28:54.250 ⇒ 01:28:55.190 Uttam Kumaran: Nice.

1040 01:28:55.700 ⇒ 01:28:56.220 Uttam Kumaran: Whoa!

1041 01:28:56.220 ⇒ 01:28:57.940 Mustafa Raja: Oh, bro.

1042 01:28:59.270 ⇒ 01:29:01.689 Uttam Kumaran: This is nice, though.

1043 01:29:01.690 ⇒ 01:29:02.550 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

1044 01:29:04.470 ⇒ 01:29:07.330 Mustafa Raja: We can do a reiteration over it.

1045 01:29:07.810 ⇒ 01:29:11.030 Uttam Kumaran: Why did it do this?

1046 01:29:11.530 ⇒ 01:29:13.360 Mustafa Raja: It was feeling….

1047 01:29:15.020 ⇒ 01:29:16.529 Uttam Kumaran: It didn’t know if it was ugly.

1048 01:29:16.530 ⇒ 01:29:17.610 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

1049 01:29:18.490 ⇒ 01:29:19.600 Uttam Kumaran: I like this, though.

1050 01:29:20.260 ⇒ 01:29:22.760 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this, the quick filters thing is good.

1051 01:29:24.090 ⇒ 01:29:27.109 Mustafa Raja: But it did mess up the dimensions.

1052 01:29:27.490 ⇒ 01:29:28.340 Mustafa Raja: put our….

1053 01:29:28.340 ⇒ 01:29:30.730 Uttam Kumaran: You guys have just implement this.

1054 01:29:31.330 ⇒ 01:29:31.970 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

1055 01:29:31.970 ⇒ 01:29:36.250 Uttam Kumaran: Dude, this is pretty good, but, like, why did it do anything else?

1056 01:29:41.370 ⇒ 01:29:42.740 Mustafa Raja: It felt we needed it.

1057 01:29:46.020 ⇒ 01:29:47.619 Mustafa Raja: We need change.

1058 01:29:53.370 ⇒ 01:29:54.360 Uttam Kumaran: So….

1059 01:29:54.740 ⇒ 01:29:56.699 Mustafa Raja: We can revert, to be honest, I think.

1060 01:29:57.910 ⇒ 01:29:58.670 Uttam Kumaran: relay?

1061 01:29:58.670 ⇒ 01:30:03.110 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, maybe, maybe a reiteration over it would be a good start, no?

1062 01:30:04.160 ⇒ 01:30:07.970 Mustafa Raja: But did we commit the fix?

1063 01:30:08.930 ⇒ 01:30:09.560 Uttam Kumaran: No, no.

1064 01:30:10.090 ⇒ 01:30:10.959 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, we did not.

1065 01:30:10.960 ⇒ 01:30:13.799 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna push… I’m gonna push… well, I’m gonna push that.

1066 01:30:14.540 ⇒ 01:30:16.260 Uttam Kumaran: Or, like, I can beat it, but whatever.

1067 01:30:18.490 ⇒ 01:30:19.110 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

1068 01:30:26.140 ⇒ 01:30:28.290 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, I didn’t push this fix.

1069 01:30:28.290 ⇒ 01:30:30.569 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, this week’s we needed this, no?

1070 01:30:31.220 ⇒ 01:30:31.850 Uttam Kumaran: Was this….

1071 01:30:31.850 ⇒ 01:30:34.180 Mustafa Raja: This was the… this was… this was… this was good.

1072 01:30:34.570 ⇒ 01:30:35.610 Uttam Kumaran: This is it, right?

1073 01:30:36.050 ⇒ 01:30:39.210 Mustafa Raja: Mmm… Dashboard link.

1074 01:30:39.210 ⇒ 01:30:39.849 Uttam Kumaran: What do you read this?

1075 01:30:39.850 ⇒ 01:30:43.159 Mustafa Raja: And that’s what… yeah, I guess we can skip the layout thing.

1076 01:30:46.300 ⇒ 01:30:50.259 Mustafa Raja: Bro, I didn’t… I don’t know these buttons do this stuff.

1077 01:30:50.570 ⇒ 01:30:54.319 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, I know, you guys have no idea. You’d think I just sit in meetings all day.

1078 01:30:54.980 ⇒ 01:30:56.649 Uttam Kumaran: You have no idea, dude.

1079 01:30:56.650 ⇒ 01:30:58.719 Mustafa Raja: I’m learning a lot in this meeting.

1080 01:31:01.500 ⇒ 01:31:06.479 Mustafa Raja: Just wait. I see you cleaning things, and things happen.

1081 01:31:06.480 ⇒ 01:31:11.850 Uttam Kumaran: I wish I could, like, do this all day again. I don’t, like… dude, I used to sit in, like.

1082 01:31:12.270 ⇒ 01:31:15.350 Uttam Kumaran: Dell for 8 hours a day, 10 hours a day.

1083 01:31:16.560 ⇒ 01:31:18.399 Uttam Kumaran: Don’t do it at all anymore.

1084 01:31:20.910 ⇒ 01:31:23.329 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s just listen to music and do this.

1085 01:31:38.230 ⇒ 01:31:42.629 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, for the browser-based thing, I want to deploy it on Heroku.

1086 01:31:44.880 ⇒ 01:31:45.999 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, nice, okay.

1087 01:31:46.690 ⇒ 01:32:03.610 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, the browser can live on browser-based, meaning the browser session should be in browser-based, but we will be triggering all of the… all of our script in Heroku. And we have… we would have a layer of

1088 01:32:03.680 ⇒ 01:32:09.290 Mustafa Raja: Express over our script, Express.js, the backend stuff.

1089 01:32:09.610 ⇒ 01:32:14.330 Mustafa Raja: To have an API over it, because browser-based doesn’t do API.

1090 01:32:14.540 ⇒ 01:32:20.540 Mustafa Raja: … I don’t know why… But it’s good stuff, to be honest.

1091 01:32:21.270 ⇒ 01:32:22.020 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool.

1092 01:32:22.020 ⇒ 01:32:24.669 Mustafa Raja: The agent is not good.

1093 01:32:26.370 ⇒ 01:32:30.150 Mustafa Raja: I employed some other strategy that worked pretty good.

1094 01:32:30.890 ⇒ 01:32:31.880 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, really? Okay.

1095 01:32:31.880 ⇒ 01:32:32.500 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

1096 01:32:32.770 ⇒ 01:32:36.040 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’d love to go in detail about it if…

1097 01:32:36.530 ⇒ 01:32:38.460 Mustafa Raja: If we ever have some time over it.

1098 01:32:40.710 ⇒ 01:32:43.110 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, send me, …

1099 01:32:43.850 ⇒ 01:32:46.810 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I want to look once you push the code, and I can just kind of…

1100 01:32:47.730 ⇒ 01:32:49.569 Uttam Kumaran: I can see it a little bit.

1101 01:32:49.740 ⇒ 01:32:53.619 Mustafa Raja: Oh yeah, then we can have it in clay and stuff.

1102 01:33:07.000 ⇒ 01:33:09.040 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this takes a lot of time, no?

1103 01:33:10.250 ⇒ 01:33:12.380 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, it is taking quite a lot of time.

1104 01:33:14.220 ⇒ 01:33:18.120 Mustafa Raja: Is it… is it usually this long, or is…?

1105 01:33:18.470 ⇒ 01:33:19.629 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know.

1106 01:33:23.850 ⇒ 01:33:28.420 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, if we need to do iterations like this, this is going to be a long, long day, no?

1107 01:33:52.080 ⇒ 01:33:56.660 Mustafa Raja: Casey and I mostly talked about laptops and stuff while we were in this meeting.

1108 01:33:57.040 ⇒ 01:33:58.060 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, nice.

1109 01:34:28.950 ⇒ 01:34:33.380 Mustafa Raja: You worked in products, so… How did you…

1110 01:34:33.910 ⇒ 01:34:36.980 Mustafa Raja: Getting to consultancy rather than products.

1111 01:34:38.620 ⇒ 01:34:43.530 Uttam Kumaran: I just quit my job, and I didn’t want to go work for anyone anymore.

1112 01:34:44.660 ⇒ 01:34:47.729 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, but I guess you, you would have… I had done consulting projects.

1113 01:34:47.730 ⇒ 01:34:50.250 Uttam Kumaran: I’ve done some contracting work before as a data engineer.

1114 01:34:51.010 ⇒ 01:34:52.510 Mustafa Raja: Mmm, yeah, that means….

1115 01:34:52.510 ⇒ 01:34:56.930 Uttam Kumaran: I was just working for a random company, and then I was like.

1116 01:34:57.420 ⇒ 01:35:02.119 Uttam Kumaran: I thought they were not good, and, like, they didn’t… they also, like, weren’t treating their…

1117 01:35:02.510 ⇒ 01:35:04.680 Uttam Kumaran: team super well, and I was like.

1118 01:35:05.170 ⇒ 01:35:07.609 Uttam Kumaran: I think I can run a better one, you know?

1119 01:35:08.430 ⇒ 01:35:09.110 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

1120 01:35:09.290 ⇒ 01:35:10.569 Uttam Kumaran: Sort of, like, how I got.

1121 01:35:10.570 ⇒ 01:35:12.370 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, you’re doing a good job.

1122 01:35:13.700 ⇒ 01:35:16.700 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, but dude, it’s, like, so tiring.

1123 01:35:17.480 ⇒ 01:35:21.610 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I guess… I guess in a few years it’s going to be worth it, no?

1124 01:35:22.780 ⇒ 01:35:24.129 Uttam Kumaran: I hope so.

1125 01:35:25.110 ⇒ 01:35:26.520 Uttam Kumaran: Hope so.

1126 01:35:40.400 ⇒ 01:35:41.610 Uttam Kumaran: What the heck?

1127 01:35:42.220 ⇒ 01:35:50.760 Mustafa Raja: What happened? Infinity scroll for years, stupid records. Bro, this race condition… hmm… These conditions….

1128 01:35:50.760 ⇒ 01:35:51.770 Uttam Kumaran: Just fix that.

1129 01:35:56.380 ⇒ 01:35:58.260 Mustafa Raja: What? Hmm….

1130 01:36:41.360 ⇒ 01:36:42.570 Uttam Kumaran: Fine to me.

1131 01:36:44.840 ⇒ 01:36:49.279 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I don’t see the answers.

1132 01:36:49.700 ⇒ 01:36:53.789 Mustafa Raja: Ace condition would be the one that might be scary.

1133 01:36:57.730 ⇒ 01:36:58.850 Mustafa Raja: If we do.

1134 01:37:22.810 ⇒ 01:37:25.340 Mustafa Raja: Oh yeah, for the interlude….

1135 01:37:25.830 ⇒ 01:37:28.199 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Notion wouldn’t….

1136 01:37:28.200 ⇒ 01:37:32.589 Mustafa Raja: In Notion, we are… we would be unable to use, format headings.

1137 01:37:33.090 ⇒ 01:37:39.149 Mustafa Raja: The reason is, we’d be sending the deck via Slack, and Slack doesn’t do headings.

1138 01:37:41.070 ⇒ 01:37:48.369 Mustafa Raja: So the, … Markdown that slacks and just does not include any headings, to be clear.

1139 01:37:49.160 ⇒ 01:37:50.240 Uttam Kumaran: That’s okay.

1140 01:37:50.680 ⇒ 01:37:51.400 Mustafa Raja: Okay.

1141 01:37:54.610 ⇒ 01:38:04.110 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, for now, it’s okay, I guess we can do a demo with that, but you said that, can we do the, copilot thing with it, no?

1142 01:38:04.320 ⇒ 01:38:16.330 Mustafa Raja: So, I asked Sam if it will be able to do that for us, meaning will Copilot, would be able to return back, Markdown.

1143 01:38:17.080 ⇒ 01:38:17.770 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

1144 01:38:18.150 ⇒ 01:38:18.840 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

1145 01:38:27.110 ⇒ 01:38:30.410 Uttam Kumaran: But I don’t know if it’s freaking out.

1146 01:38:36.410 ⇒ 01:38:37.739 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t even know what.

1147 01:38:38.070 ⇒ 01:38:39.790 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that happened right here.

1148 01:38:42.180 ⇒ 01:38:46.779 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I guess your prior strategy was good when, doing…

1149 01:38:47.000 ⇒ 01:38:50.550 Mustafa Raja: One… one feature at a time.

1150 01:38:52.870 ⇒ 01:38:53.780 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah….

1151 01:38:53.780 ⇒ 01:38:55.129 Mustafa Raja: That was good.

1152 01:38:58.430 ⇒ 01:39:02.429 Mustafa Raja: And… and I don’t know how good this, bug bot is.

1153 01:39:02.570 ⇒ 01:39:03.549 Mustafa Raja: For now.

1154 01:39:03.880 ⇒ 01:39:07.380 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I don’t even know what these conditions are, really.

1155 01:39:11.640 ⇒ 01:39:13.380 Mustafa Raja: Race condition… oh….

1156 01:39:17.750 ⇒ 01:39:22.659 Uttam Kumaran: But, like… This one didn’t find anything.

1157 01:39:24.530 ⇒ 01:39:25.424 Uttam Kumaran: Whoa!

1158 01:39:27.410 ⇒ 01:39:28.720 Mustafa Raja: Then that’s good enough.

1159 01:39:30.170 ⇒ 01:39:31.750 Mustafa Raja: Oh, it turned the same thing.

1160 01:39:33.200 ⇒ 01:39:34.469 Mustafa Raja: So he ran it twice.

1161 01:39:34.850 ⇒ 01:39:35.929 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, no.

1162 01:39:36.100 ⇒ 01:39:38.919 Uttam Kumaran: I didn’t fix it, because it kept trying to do other things.

1163 01:39:39.120 ⇒ 01:39:39.840 Mustafa Raja: Oh.

1164 01:39:52.120 ⇒ 01:39:53.789 Uttam Kumaran: This looks like it’s working.

1165 01:39:55.190 ⇒ 01:39:58.020 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this looks pretty good to me, to be honest.

1166 01:39:58.280 ⇒ 01:40:00.480 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I’m just gonna push it.

1167 01:40:00.480 ⇒ 01:40:01.420 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

1168 01:40:02.360 ⇒ 01:40:05.199 Mustafa Raja: We can always come back to it, to be honest.

1169 01:40:06.570 ⇒ 01:40:07.330 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

1170 01:40:12.570 ⇒ 01:40:19.279 Mustafa Raja: for ABC, … co-pilot thing. Is it going to live in our platform?

1171 01:40:22.760 ⇒ 01:40:28.939 Uttam Kumaran: … No. It’s gonna be something for them.

1172 01:40:29.560 ⇒ 01:40:31.710 Mustafa Raja: I’ve not decided yet, though.

1173 01:40:33.040 ⇒ 01:40:36.150 Mustafa Raja: Oh, so it’s going to live under some sort of domain, right?

1174 01:40:36.150 ⇒ 01:40:36.990 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah….

1175 01:40:38.660 ⇒ 01:40:41.100 Mustafa Raja: Can we slap Drain Forge logo on there?

1176 01:40:41.640 ⇒ 01:40:44.590 Uttam Kumaran: I’m not sure.

1177 01:42:08.380 ⇒ 01:42:14.990 Mustafa Raja: I was thinking for the… on today’s icebreaker, I had some pretty tough movies.

1178 01:42:16.060 ⇒ 01:42:18.819 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah. But you guys guessed them so quick.

1179 01:42:20.030 ⇒ 01:42:26.539 Mustafa Raja: I thought 10-10 would be good enough for 10 minutes. It was guessed in 4 minutes.

1180 01:42:33.110 ⇒ 01:42:37.209 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I’m gonna finish up a couple things, and then…

1181 01:42:38.600 ⇒ 01:42:40.810 Uttam Kumaran: Just gonna end the week, I think.

1182 01:42:41.340 ⇒ 01:42:42.080 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

1183 01:42:43.710 ⇒ 01:42:46.059 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’m going to end the week after this meeting.

1184 01:42:48.150 ⇒ 01:42:53.920 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. I’m just gonna work on a couple more things for another client, but Slack me if you need anything, …

1185 01:42:54.160 ⇒ 01:42:54.670 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

1186 01:42:54.670 ⇒ 01:42:55.460 Mustafa Raja: I think….

1187 01:42:55.460 ⇒ 01:43:01.669 Uttam Kumaran: Monday, I would love to call Interlude, and then, did we get… so, did we get anywhere with default stuff?

1188 01:43:03.110 ⇒ 01:43:10.770 Mustafa Raja: for default… yeah, we need to, we just need to, host it.

1189 01:43:11.080 ⇒ 01:43:17.029 Mustafa Raja: And then we should be able to call it from Clay. For that, I need to set up a server.

1190 01:43:17.230 ⇒ 01:43:20.020 Mustafa Raja: A layer of server with the browser-based thing.

1191 01:43:20.990 ⇒ 01:43:28.239 Mustafa Raja: So we can get the JSON, because browser-based doesn’t give us any JSON, we can only get the logs, and that isn’t going to help us.

1192 01:43:29.330 ⇒ 01:43:29.970 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

1193 01:43:30.340 ⇒ 01:43:35.300 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so some, some, some layer of, server…

1194 01:43:35.680 ⇒ 01:43:39.029 Mustafa Raja: And then hosted on Heroku, and then…

1195 01:43:39.310 ⇒ 01:43:42.010 Mustafa Raja: It should be good to go with clay.

1196 01:43:42.460 ⇒ 01:43:55.090 Mustafa Raja: I remember that they did mention that they wanted to get some sort of technologies from the HTML that would be in the HTML. It would be good if they would tell us

1197 01:43:56.170 ⇒ 01:44:02.590 Mustafa Raja: what sorts of technologies they would want to look for that would be always in the HTML.

1198 01:44:02.880 ⇒ 01:44:10.020 Mustafa Raja: because I’m already, doing something with the HTML, I can just look for those technologies if they are in there.

1199 01:44:10.770 ⇒ 01:44:11.340 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

1200 01:44:13.430 ⇒ 01:44:26.320 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, and for what sort of… what… what sort of forms, am I going to… going to work with? I guess this is some… something that I can work with Lev… Lev on?

1201 01:44:26.320 ⇒ 01:44:30.099 Uttam Kumaran: I would just call Lev and ask him to kind of walk through it with you.

1202 01:44:30.700 ⇒ 01:44:32.810 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah. …

1203 01:44:32.950 ⇒ 01:44:41.859 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’d just love to know, what, what sort of forms should I expect to be working with? …

1204 01:44:42.090 ⇒ 01:44:53.879 Mustafa Raja: I feel it’s better if I get to know it from them. Otherwise, it’s going to be mostly manual. I’ll have to, you know.

1205 01:44:54.020 ⇒ 01:45:00.459 Mustafa Raja: Do a trial and error, and see, okay, this is something new, this is something new for…

1206 01:45:00.870 ⇒ 01:45:02.350 Mustafa Raja: And this and that.

1207 01:45:02.650 ⇒ 01:45:04.389 Mustafa Raja: If it comes from them.

1208 01:45:04.670 ⇒ 01:45:06.470 Mustafa Raja: It’s going to be pretty simple, I feel.

1209 01:45:06.640 ⇒ 01:45:07.270 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

1210 01:45:07.740 ⇒ 01:45:08.690 Uttam Kumaran: I agree.

1211 01:45:10.650 ⇒ 01:45:13.429 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I would just call him and see if he can meet.

1212 01:45:13.990 ⇒ 01:45:14.740 Uttam Kumaran: I think he’ll….

1213 01:45:15.410 ⇒ 01:45:20.059 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, I’ll, … I mean, it’s going to be on Monday now, right?

1214 01:45:20.530 ⇒ 01:45:21.000 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

1215 01:45:21.000 ⇒ 01:45:24.200 Mustafa Raja: So I guess this… this is going to be, first thing on Monday.

1216 01:45:24.510 ⇒ 01:45:26.800 Mustafa Raja: I’ll just shoot a message in the channel.

1217 01:45:27.250 ⇒ 01:45:27.940 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

1218 01:45:27.940 ⇒ 01:45:30.759 Mustafa Raja: To see if we can find some availability.

1219 01:45:31.440 ⇒ 01:45:32.620 Mustafa Raja: Would you be in the meeting?

1220 01:45:33.660 ⇒ 01:45:40.449 Uttam Kumaran: You can add me, but I think you should be able to take care of me without me. Just… I would just walk you through some examples of other tools that you want to try to…

1221 01:45:40.820 ⇒ 01:45:42.410 Uttam Kumaran: Want to try to get, you know?

1222 01:45:42.770 ⇒ 01:45:43.530 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

1223 01:45:46.120 ⇒ 01:45:50.170 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, how did, how do you think it went for the last meet?

1224 01:45:50.830 ⇒ 01:45:51.730 Uttam Kumaran: It was good.

1225 01:45:51.980 ⇒ 01:45:55.190 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I just want to start to get to the point where we can run this.

1226 01:45:55.500 ⇒ 01:45:56.549 Mustafa Raja: You know….

1227 01:45:56.680 ⇒ 01:45:59.439 Uttam Kumaran: And start to get them some data into Salesforce.

1228 01:45:59.890 ⇒ 01:46:00.670 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

1229 01:46:03.250 ⇒ 01:46:03.880 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

1230 01:46:03.880 ⇒ 01:46:07.200 Mustafa Raja: I feel, I feel, bra… what’s it called?

1231 01:46:08.530 ⇒ 01:46:10.530 Mustafa Raja: The technology thing.

1232 01:46:10.670 ⇒ 01:46:14.049 Mustafa Raja: That we are using stack something, their stack, their stack.

1233 01:46:14.050 ⇒ 01:46:14.470 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

1234 01:46:14.470 ⇒ 01:46:15.360 Mustafa Raja: traders.

1235 01:46:16.530 ⇒ 01:46:17.350 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah….

1236 01:46:18.590 ⇒ 01:46:19.949 Mustafa Raja: I had big hopes in it.

1237 01:46:21.670 ⇒ 01:46:23.199 Mustafa Raja: I have none left.

1238 01:46:24.740 ⇒ 01:46:27.890 Mustafa Raja: Maybe we can sell this data to them, no?

1239 01:46:28.640 ⇒ 01:46:30.090 Mustafa Raja: Add this tough draw.

1240 01:46:30.740 ⇒ 01:46:31.660 Mustafa Raja: Can we?

1241 01:46:32.610 ⇒ 01:46:38.050 Uttam Kumaran: I mean… Maybe we should make an Appify and charge for it.

1242 01:46:39.190 ⇒ 01:46:41.320 Mustafa Raja: Should we? We can, I….

1243 01:46:42.580 ⇒ 01:46:43.900 Uttam Kumaran: We could think about it.

1244 01:46:45.350 ⇒ 01:46:47.820 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t think anyone’s built something like this.

1245 01:46:48.570 ⇒ 01:46:50.089 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I don’t think so either.

1246 01:46:51.000 ⇒ 01:46:52.959 Mustafa Raja: And this is… big.

1247 01:46:54.320 ⇒ 01:46:55.130 Mustafa Raja: No?

1248 01:46:56.010 ⇒ 01:47:00.850 Mustafa Raja: Even the websites, … built with…

1249 01:47:01.090 ⇒ 01:47:03.780 Mustafa Raja: And other sort of websites.

1250 01:47:04.170 ⇒ 01:47:07.750 Mustafa Raja: In this category, they don’t have this data at all.

1251 01:47:08.270 ⇒ 01:47:09.330 Uttam Kumaran: I agree.

1252 01:47:10.170 ⇒ 01:47:17.100 Mustafa Raja: And this is something… That’s… Going to benefit a lot of companies.

1253 01:47:17.880 ⇒ 01:47:22.740 Mustafa Raja: But I feel this is very niche, particular thing.

1254 01:47:24.730 ⇒ 01:47:31.299 Mustafa Raja: So I don’t know… I mean, you’re better with the products because you’ve built them.

1255 01:47:31.300 ⇒ 01:47:36.870 Uttam Kumaran: I think it’s fine, I think we can think about it. As long as we built it once, you know, we can do it again, so…

1256 01:47:37.220 ⇒ 01:47:39.740 Uttam Kumaran: For me, the focus is nailing it for them versus.

1257 01:47:39.740 ⇒ 01:47:40.859 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1258 01:47:40.900 ⇒ 01:47:42.410 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Obviously.

1259 01:47:42.710 ⇒ 01:47:43.360 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

1260 01:47:43.540 ⇒ 01:47:47.760 Mustafa Raja: If it works for… if it works for them, then that’s a huge win for us.

1261 01:47:49.380 ⇒ 01:47:51.070 Mustafa Raja: Word of mouth is a big thing.

1262 01:47:51.780 ⇒ 01:47:52.470 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

1263 01:47:53.740 ⇒ 01:47:54.739 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I agree.

1264 01:47:54.740 ⇒ 01:47:59.150 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I wouldn’t want to get… a bad review.

1265 01:47:59.750 ⇒ 01:48:00.430 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

1266 01:48:02.150 ⇒ 01:48:07.850 Uttam Kumaran: No, I think we just… I just want to make sure they can start using some of this this week, yeah, as soon as possible.

1267 01:48:08.700 ⇒ 01:48:13.279 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this week should, it should be, … It should be possible.

1268 01:48:13.810 ⇒ 01:48:14.480 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

1269 01:48:19.420 ⇒ 01:48:24.460 Mustafa Raja: I’ll try to, do the… have the clarity, …

1270 01:48:24.610 ⇒ 01:48:27.330 Mustafa Raja: to use by Tuesday when doing this?

1271 01:48:30.450 ⇒ 01:48:31.150 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

1272 01:48:31.150 ⇒ 01:48:32.150 Mustafa Raja: That should be good.

1273 01:48:32.810 ⇒ 01:48:38.899 Mustafa Raja: Oh, Henry knew the… knew the name of… name of the cities over here in Pakistan.

1274 01:48:39.380 ⇒ 01:48:40.180 Uttam Kumaran: Really?

1275 01:48:40.180 ⇒ 01:48:42.270 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I got to briefly meet him.

1276 01:48:42.870 ⇒ 01:48:43.360 Uttam Kumaran: Nice.

1277 01:48:43.360 ⇒ 01:48:45.500 Mustafa Raja: thing… Yeah.

1278 01:48:45.650 ⇒ 01:48:46.750 Mustafa Raja: Super chill.

1279 01:48:46.910 ⇒ 01:48:48.179 Mustafa Raja: I like it.

1280 01:48:51.700 ⇒ 01:48:52.930 Uttam Kumaran: No, he’s a good guy.

1281 01:48:53.100 ⇒ 01:48:53.820 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

1282 01:49:28.520 ⇒ 01:49:33.240 Mustafa Raja: Oh, this is… This is… To some other client.

1283 01:49:34.050 ⇒ 01:49:35.040 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah.

1284 01:49:35.830 ⇒ 01:49:37.930 Uttam Kumaran: This isn’t just for data work.

1285 01:49:37.930 ⇒ 01:49:38.620 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

1286 01:49:38.770 ⇒ 01:49:40.510 Mustafa Raja: How did you get into data?

1287 01:49:42.710 ⇒ 01:49:47.589 Uttam Kumaran: I just learned SQL one day, and then I got a job doing it, so….

1288 01:49:47.920 ⇒ 01:49:51.840 Mustafa Raja: But did you study… study the data?

1289 01:49:53.020 ⇒ 01:49:54.149 Mustafa Raja: What did you study?

1290 01:49:55.590 ⇒ 01:49:57.940 Uttam Kumaran: I studied computer engineering.

1291 01:49:58.130 ⇒ 01:50:01.890 Mustafa Raja: Computer changes, … so it’s hardware stuff, a lot of it, no?

1292 01:50:01.890 ⇒ 01:50:03.090 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah.

1293 01:50:03.520 ⇒ 01:50:04.130 Uttam Kumaran: I thought.

1294 01:50:05.320 ⇒ 01:50:09.489 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. One of my friends did get into computer engineering.

1295 01:50:09.940 ⇒ 01:50:12.740 Mustafa Raja: dropped out and went with BBA.

1296 01:50:14.190 ⇒ 01:50:15.230 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, nice.

1297 01:50:15.770 ⇒ 01:50:16.290 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

1298 01:50:16.290 ⇒ 01:50:17.499 Uttam Kumaran: You’re going so hard.

1299 01:50:17.810 ⇒ 01:50:21.990 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, computer engineering is super hard because… because of the hardware stuff.

1300 01:50:22.540 ⇒ 01:50:23.330 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

1301 01:50:25.000 ⇒ 01:50:25.640 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

1302 01:50:27.240 ⇒ 01:50:33.099 Mustafa Raja: I think that the people that came before us were super genius to build these sort of things.

1303 01:50:33.420 ⇒ 01:50:37.380 Mustafa Raja: I cannot imagine… Doing that sort of stuff.

1304 01:50:37.920 ⇒ 01:50:39.490 Uttam Kumaran: It’s so boring, dude.

1305 01:50:39.640 ⇒ 01:50:41.270 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it’s so boring, too.

1306 01:50:41.650 ⇒ 01:50:44.759 Uttam Kumaran: I learned how to build computers and everything is so boring.

1307 01:50:46.450 ⇒ 01:50:49.269 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, I know how it works now, but it’s pretty boring.

1308 01:50:50.390 ⇒ 01:50:51.040 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

1309 01:50:53.800 ⇒ 01:50:56.179 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I’m gonna finish this, I’m gonna go.

1310 01:50:57.270 ⇒ 01:50:57.950 Mustafa Raja: Yep.

1311 01:50:59.650 ⇒ 01:51:01.359 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, dude, get some rest.

1312 01:51:02.290 ⇒ 01:51:06.999 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’m going to… Either play some Call of Duty, or go sleep.

1313 01:51:09.520 ⇒ 01:51:10.360 Uttam Kumaran: Thanks.

1314 01:51:10.860 ⇒ 01:51:12.340 Mustafa Raja: Thank you. Have a good day.

1315 01:51:12.340 ⇒ 01:51:13.340 Uttam Kumaran: Have a good weekend.

1316 01:51:13.710 ⇒ 01:51:14.829 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, you too. Bye.

1317 01:51:14.860 ⇒ 01:51:15.999 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, you too, bye!