Meeting Title: Brainforge PMO Candidate Screening Date: 2025-07-29 Meeting participants: Usama Riaz, Amber Lin
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1 00:00:46.560 ⇒ 00:00:47.500 Usama Riaz: Hello!
2 00:00:47.660 ⇒ 00:00:48.540 Usama Riaz: Hello!
3 00:01:36.960 ⇒ 00:01:38.040 Amber Lin: Hi! There!
4 00:01:42.310 ⇒ 00:01:43.599 Usama Riaz: Amber. Can you hear me?
5 00:01:43.600 ⇒ 00:01:49.559 Amber Lin: Hi, yeah, I can hear you apologies. I’m on the road right now. But I have good Internet connection. So it’s all good.
6 00:01:49.930 ⇒ 00:01:50.560 Usama Riaz: Okay.
7 00:01:51.980 ⇒ 00:01:54.789 Amber Lin: Yeah. Nice to meet you. Have you talked to Utam already?
8 00:01:55.150 ⇒ 00:01:58.279 Usama Riaz: Yes, I have already had a chat with Utham on Linkedin.
9 00:01:58.710 ⇒ 00:02:00.210 Amber Lin: Oh, wow! Okay.
10 00:02:00.500 ⇒ 00:02:02.560 Usama Riaz: Yes, regarding the opportunities.
11 00:02:04.540 ⇒ 00:02:10.680 Amber Lin: Yeah, that sounds awesome. Do you? Do you know much about our company, or what position this is for.
12 00:02:10.800 ⇒ 00:02:18.495 Usama Riaz: Yes, I have got a chance to. You can say, go through with the job description, and the company is providing software services.
13 00:02:18.980 ⇒ 00:02:19.930 Usama Riaz: So yes.
14 00:02:20.510 ⇒ 00:02:48.049 Amber Lin: Okay, yeah, sounds good. I think the for this interview. It’s gonna be pretty short. So I have 4 questions I wanna ask you. And at the end I wanna have some space for you to ask me any questions about the company, about how I how we work, or anything about the next steps. So I wanted to start off at for a quick introduction. So my name is Amber. I’ve been working at Brainforge for about 4 4 months now
15 00:02:48.860 ⇒ 00:03:01.870 Amber Lin: I joined as a project manager, and right now I’m helping set up the Pmo. And right now, we’re looking for someone to join our Pmo. As well, and could you give me a quick introduction about yourself?
16 00:03:02.550 ⇒ 00:03:28.280 Usama Riaz: Yeah, sure, I hope you have a chance to resume review my resume. I have almost 13 years of experience, and I started my career from call center industry, then medical billing, then research and development business development, a lot of versatile career I had. So since 2,017, I’ve got a chance to work in it industry. So from 2,017 to 2,019, I was working as a Microsoft dynamics techno functional consultant.
17 00:03:28.310 ⇒ 00:03:46.450 Usama Riaz: So I have 2 years of you can say technical experience, development experience. So later on, as per my previous experience, I decided to pursue my career with project management. So it’s been around 6 years of experience in project management. And beside that, I’ve done. Pmp certification as well.
18 00:03:46.830 ⇒ 00:03:51.859 Usama Riaz: So yes, this is a general overview of my career and profile.
19 00:03:52.400 ⇒ 00:04:01.009 Amber Lin: I see. Yeah, I had a chance to look at your Linkedin as well. From my understanding. It’s mostly internal facing projects, right?
20 00:04:03.032 ⇒ 00:04:05.870 Usama Riaz: Sorry, which project internal facing, project.
21 00:04:06.270 ⇒ 00:04:11.030 Amber Lin: Yeah, is, is your project mostly client facing, or mostly internal facing.
22 00:04:12.980 ⇒ 00:04:14.460 Usama Riaz: Both client.
23 00:04:14.460 ⇒ 00:04:16.430 Usama Riaz: Oh, okay, and internal facing. Yes.
24 00:04:16.680 ⇒ 00:04:19.100 Amber Lin: Okay, yeah. Sounds good. I was just curious.
25 00:04:19.100 ⇒ 00:04:23.710 Usama Riaz: If you yes, if you if you say there’s some.
26 00:04:23.870 ⇒ 00:04:29.039 Usama Riaz: there are some enterprise level projects. So in that kind of projects you have to interact with the client.
27 00:04:29.964 ⇒ 00:04:39.699 Amber Lin: I see, okay, yeah, sounds good. So the 1st question I have is what are your career goals, so I just want to learn about what that is for you.
28 00:04:40.107 ⇒ 00:04:53.160 Usama Riaz: Yes, my career goals are to pursue my career in project management. And what I’m looking at myself after next 5 years that director project, manager or program manager. So yes.
29 00:04:54.078 ⇒ 00:05:04.290 Amber Lin: So you want to. So you want to. Do you want to manage a lot more projects or manage the project managers or established processes.
30 00:05:04.290 ⇒ 00:05:06.380 Usama Riaz: Experience to manage a Pmo team Pmo team.
31 00:05:06.851 ⇒ 00:05:10.619 Amber Lin: Okay. So it’s managing like a Pm team.
32 00:05:11.050 ⇒ 00:05:11.550 Usama Riaz: Yes.
33 00:05:11.966 ⇒ 00:05:21.550 Amber Lin: Pm, team. Okay, yeah, sounds good. So the next question we have is, What do you think you are really good at? Professionally.
34 00:05:22.993 ⇒ 00:05:33.926 Usama Riaz: What I am good professionally, you can say punctuality commitment, reliability, hard work, loyalty, and
35 00:05:34.880 ⇒ 00:05:41.159 Usama Riaz: in communication with the client delivery, we guess make sure that deliverables
36 00:05:42.013 ⇒ 00:05:53.980 Usama Riaz: within the timeline. So there are a lot of things we can discuss, not specifically. So. There are a lot of things depends what kind of you can say question or topic we are discussing.
37 00:05:54.820 ⇒ 00:06:16.749 Amber Lin: Okay, yeah. Sounds good. Mostly. I just want to know the overall view of what you think about what you you, how you view yourself essentially and then in the future interviews we’ll go in more depth about each position and what the experience is like. So you’ll have a chance to we’ll have a chance to learn more about your accomplishments as well.
38 00:06:17.103 ⇒ 00:06:25.580 Amber Lin: And so the question after that I have is, What do you think you are not good at, or not interested in doing professionally.
39 00:06:27.751 ⇒ 00:06:31.039 Usama Riaz: It’s it’s a quite complex and difficult question.
40 00:06:31.800 ⇒ 00:06:37.159 Usama Riaz: Well, I’m not good at to. You can say I’m not good at to say no to say.
41 00:06:37.412 ⇒ 00:06:39.180 Amber Lin: I see I know that view.
42 00:06:39.180 ⇒ 00:06:39.590 Usama Riaz: I’m
43 00:06:39.970 ⇒ 00:07:02.150 Usama Riaz: yes. For example, if client comes up with a new requirement, or you can say the very minor little requirement which you can consider within the scope. So this is very difficult to say, no to client to retain this customer, and sometimes, obviously, if company or your employer is expecting something extraordinary to you. So something obviously
44 00:07:02.950 ⇒ 00:07:06.950 Usama Riaz: to say no is very. You can say I’m not good at to say no. Sometimes.
45 00:07:07.555 ⇒ 00:07:22.869 Amber Lin: Yeah, I see, how have you dealt with that in the past? Because, i’ve been facing that type of issue recently as well it’s hard to like, especially now that we have so many more clients. It’s really hard to say, like, I don’t want to take that on. It’s like it’s it’s needed. How would you deal with that.
46 00:07:23.490 ⇒ 00:07:51.219 Usama Riaz: So obviously, if the change is a huge and obviously it is affecting the scope and the sprints. Obviously, you can bring all the stakeholder, and you can, you can say, bring the sow document in the front of them that this is a scope we have finalized. So we can. If you want us to do that so definitely we will. We are here to help you assist you. We can consider this change into the next sprint. Otherwise, if the change is very minor, and it is not affecting your productivity.
47 00:07:51.220 ⇒ 00:07:56.770 Usama Riaz: performance, and delivery, so you can consider, or you can see your you can request to your technical team that please do it.
48 00:07:57.410 ⇒ 00:08:00.829 Usama Riaz: So yeah, it. It gives your client a good impression.
49 00:08:01.210 ⇒ 00:08:10.499 Amber Lin: I see. Okay. What are you not interested in doing that? I just wanna make sure that we can be a good match and put you on the right.
50 00:08:10.500 ⇒ 00:08:38.549 Usama Riaz: Yeah, on site working. Yes, because obviously, right now, I’m sitting in the office. And the only reason why I’m looking for new opportunities is to just a remote job. For now, for you can say, if you talk about, for example, that we will provide you an opportunity to travel abroad. So that’s a separate separate thing. That’s a different thing. Obviously, there’s a good thing to work abroad on site in the Us. But in my local country, which is Pakistan. So.
51 00:08:38.559 ⇒ 00:08:38.929 Amber Lin: It’s not.
52 00:08:38.929 ⇒ 00:08:51.159 Usama Riaz: Almost you can say, 13 years of working and after Covid we had enjoyed, you can say a lot of work. But now we came back to our normal routine to work. You can see on site.
53 00:08:51.160 ⇒ 00:08:51.580 Amber Lin: Yeah.
54 00:08:51.580 ⇒ 00:08:56.350 Usama Riaz: So this is something I’m not. I don’t like these days. So yes.
55 00:08:56.590 ⇒ 00:09:03.450 Amber Lin: Oh, okay, yeah. Sounds good. What? What areas? I guess professionally, are you not interested in.
56 00:09:04.010 ⇒ 00:09:09.490 Usama Riaz: Okay, professionally. What kind of areas there is?
57 00:09:09.780 ⇒ 00:09:14.179 Usama Riaz: I don’t think so. There are anything where I don’t like in professionalism.
58 00:09:14.670 ⇒ 00:09:31.260 Usama Riaz: because as a project manager. I’ve worked in a lot of industries and a lot of department, including business development marketing, software development project management, everything I have worked with. So I don’t think so. There’s something I don’t like professionally. Everything is okay. I’m okay with everything.
59 00:09:31.750 ⇒ 00:09:42.670 Amber Lin: Okay, yeah. Sounds good. I think that brings us to the last question. So this might be a little bit longer. And I do wanna leave some space for you to ask me questions as well.
60 00:09:43.045 ⇒ 00:09:43.420 Usama Riaz: So.
61 00:09:43.420 ⇒ 00:09:53.740 Amber Lin: The last question is, who were your last 5 bosses? And how will they each rate you rate your performance on a 1 to 10 scale when we talk to them.
62 00:09:54.540 ⇒ 00:10:08.069 Usama Riaz: Okay. If I tell you the current situation, so company is providing me, you can say a chance to manage more projects, because, as per my performance and capabilities. So you can rate my.
63 00:10:08.390 ⇒ 00:10:11.565 Usama Riaz: if you’re managing projects, you can say 7 to 8 out of 10,
64 00:10:12.483 ⇒ 00:10:30.519 Usama Riaz: and yes, and my last boss was. There was a company Us. Based company, California, which is based in California. There was, there was Alpha Bolt, and yes, I was managing a Pmo practice over there. So yes, because then I got
65 00:10:31.199 ⇒ 00:10:35.999 Usama Riaz: you can say I migrate to Saudi Arabia. I lived there so that’s a separate thing.
66 00:10:36.350 ⇒ 00:10:45.410 Usama Riaz: That’s why I left that job. And before the Alpha board I was working as a project delivery manager in Cloud Search is a Uk Based Company
67 00:10:45.410 ⇒ 00:11:07.554 Usama Riaz: and I was managing their project delivery department. There, you can say, program delivery. That is separate program, which was, you can see, a 3 month boot Camp, in which we hire fresh graduates. We train them, as you can say. For Microsoft dynamics or Microsoft Power platform latest certification, and after the certification they’ll be able to join our delivery department. So
68 00:11:08.740 ⇒ 00:11:29.708 Usama Riaz: There was a you can say, 3 month boot, 3 months boot camp program in which we were preparing software consultant or developers. So in parallel I was managing that program as well. So there are a lot of things. So I am. I’m you can see. Pretty much confident to say, all of my bosses
69 00:11:30.180 ⇒ 00:11:33.480 Usama Riaz: can rate myself 7 to 8 out of 10.
70 00:11:34.430 ⇒ 00:11:35.390 Amber Lin: I see.
71 00:11:35.711 ⇒ 00:11:40.539 Usama Riaz: You can go over Linkedin, and you can connect them directly. I have no issue.
72 00:11:40.540 ⇒ 00:12:00.780 Amber Lin: Yeah, I see. I think my more interest is to learn, like each individual boss, how they would think, I just maybe for just the last 3 companies. I would like to note them down. So the last. The so your current company who is who? What’s the name? Abacus?
73 00:12:00.780 ⇒ 00:12:02.648 Usama Riaz: Yes, avocacy, it’s an enterprise level.
74 00:12:03.740 ⇒ 00:12:07.597 Amber Lin: Huh! And the sorry your manager’s name is.
75 00:12:09.018 ⇒ 00:12:12.690 Usama Riaz: My manager name is Maruf, and.
76 00:12:12.690 ⇒ 00:12:13.010 Amber Lin: Okay.
77 00:12:13.010 ⇒ 00:12:14.999 Usama Riaz: He’s at executive director.
78 00:12:15.626 ⇒ 00:12:15.983 Amber Lin: Okay?
79 00:12:16.590 ⇒ 00:12:20.229 Amber Lin: And you said he will rate you a 7, 8 out of 10. That’s awesome.
80 00:12:20.230 ⇒ 00:12:39.208 Usama Riaz: Yes, because I recently joined that organization. And I don’t. I don’t want. Honestly speaking, you can confirm or check the background check before this abacus in, for example, like a alpha bowl cloud tech implement. But obviously it’s been
81 00:12:39.650 ⇒ 00:12:54.529 Usama Riaz: 3 months. I’ve joined this organization. And obviously, if someone do a background check. So it’s not, you can say, giving a good impression that this is our new resource. We are relying on his. We are providing we’re giving him more project. So he’s.
82 00:12:54.530 ⇒ 00:12:55.399 Amber Lin: Yeah, I trust you.
83 00:12:55.400 ⇒ 00:13:03.000 Usama Riaz: Look, you guys, obviously, he’s looking for another jobs. Another opportunity. So obviously decifact.
84 00:13:03.800 ⇒ 00:13:16.750 Amber Lin: Yeah, of course. I trust I trust you on what you say. I just wanna know what your previous bosses would think from your perspective. So the boss before that. What was his name before the company before this.
85 00:13:18.413 ⇒ 00:13:19.180 Usama Riaz: To you.
86 00:13:21.070 ⇒ 00:13:23.130 Amber Lin: Yes, I.
87 00:13:23.250 ⇒ 00:13:23.950 Amber Lin: Okay.
88 00:13:23.950 ⇒ 00:13:25.419 Usama Riaz: From Alpha Board. Yes.
89 00:13:25.420 ⇒ 00:13:30.539 Amber Lin: Oh, okay. And he would also rate you a 7, 8, or a 9.
90 00:13:30.973 ⇒ 00:13:33.000 Usama Riaz: Yes, 8 out of 8 out of 10.
91 00:13:33.270 ⇒ 00:13:35.770 Amber Lin: Oh, okay, 8 out of 10. That’s even better.
92 00:13:35.770 ⇒ 00:13:41.019 Usama Riaz: If you talk about if you talk about previous and Alpha board. So it was. Cloud search.
93 00:13:41.130 ⇒ 00:13:47.809 Usama Riaz: The owner name is Elias Khan and Sagam, so I hope they can rate me 9 out of 10 or 10 out of 10.
94 00:13:47.810 ⇒ 00:13:48.639 Amber Lin: Oh, wow!
95 00:13:48.640 ⇒ 00:13:50.219 Usama Riaz: Okay, yes. And.
96 00:13:50.220 ⇒ 00:13:56.270 Amber Lin: Oh, okay, yeah. Why do you think you would raise your 9 out of 10? That sounds like a great job.
97 00:13:56.540 ⇒ 00:14:00.140 Usama Riaz: Yeah, because I was managing a lot of things.
98 00:14:01.390 ⇒ 00:14:07.990 Amber Lin: Their projects, their program. There you can see operations as well. Their recruitment department kind of, because obviously, wow.
99 00:14:07.990 ⇒ 00:14:10.450 Usama Riaz: Being involved in some recruitment processes as well.
100 00:14:10.450 ⇒ 00:14:11.059 Amber Lin: Yeah. Yeah. Totally.
101 00:14:11.060 ⇒ 00:14:14.669 Usama Riaz: So. Yes, yes, they are. Were allowing me
102 00:14:15.110 ⇒ 00:14:23.970 Usama Riaz: the for a lot of things. There. There were a lot of dependencies with my role. So yes, that’s why I I’m pretty much confident.
103 00:14:24.270 ⇒ 00:14:33.869 Amber Lin: Okay, yeah. And also sorry. Just for Tayeep. You said he raised you at 8 out of 10. What would what would you say is the reason for that.
104 00:14:35.222 ⇒ 00:14:40.287 Usama Riaz: Because I left him he, he doesn’t want me to go.
105 00:14:41.263 ⇒ 00:14:41.909 Amber Lin: I see!
106 00:14:41.910 ⇒ 00:14:46.860 Usama Riaz: Yes, because I got an opportunity from Riyadh Saudi, Arabia, and
107 00:14:48.330 ⇒ 00:14:51.770 Usama Riaz: contract which was about to extendable, but due to.
108 00:14:51.770 ⇒ 00:14:52.300 Amber Lin: Don’t worry.
109 00:14:52.300 ⇒ 00:15:02.710 Usama Riaz: When I, you can say, came back for visa migration and fingerprints. So I heard. I’ve heard that due to some reason client is not
110 00:15:03.010 ⇒ 00:15:17.250 Usama Riaz: willing to. You can extend the projects. That’s why that’s the thing. But I was considering a full time and long term project in Saudi Arabia. So that’s why I left that job. Otherwise I was very happy with the company and culture.
111 00:15:17.790 ⇒ 00:15:22.150 Amber Lin: I see. So he offered you a offer to extend full time.
112 00:15:24.035 ⇒ 00:15:50.644 Usama Riaz: No, it wasn’t about that I’m talking about. When I left Alpha Bold. When I left. Yes, they there was an opportunity from abroad, Saudi, Arabia. And yes, they reached to me that we have an opportunity which is a 3 month contract initially. But that is extendable. I said, okay. I designed from Alpha Bold. I went on to Saudi Arabia. And
113 00:15:51.060 ⇒ 00:15:51.530 Usama Riaz: and it’s
114 00:15:51.790 ⇒ 00:16:02.390 Usama Riaz: 3 months over there. So they said, now we will provide you a work permit. You need to go to your back country and change your visa because I was on business visit. So they were
115 00:16:03.530 ⇒ 00:16:04.480 Usama Riaz: visa status.
116 00:16:04.660 ⇒ 00:16:11.810 Usama Riaz: So then I, you can say, came back to my home country, Pakistan. I was just waiting for that. You can say
117 00:16:13.660 ⇒ 00:16:28.080 Usama Riaz: the the letter from the employer. But now suddenly the their 3rd party employer. Obviously, he said, that client is not willing to extend the contract and the project due to some reason. He has no budget, etcetera, etcetera.
118 00:16:28.170 ⇒ 00:16:45.420 Usama Riaz: So I’m we’re sorry. So that’s why I was. You can say I again. I decided again to search new opportunities here and then with the grace of code, and I held you can say I had an opportunity
119 00:16:45.880 ⇒ 00:16:47.800 Usama Riaz: from abacus. They.
120 00:16:48.150 ⇒ 00:16:56.790 Usama Riaz: Reach me. Yes, the onboarding process was very smooth. I’ve been hired in a week. Yes, so that’s that’s so. You can say a story of my
121 00:16:56.980 ⇒ 00:16:57.829 Usama Riaz: last 2.
122 00:16:57.830 ⇒ 00:16:59.630 Usama Riaz: I see career.
123 00:16:59.630 ⇒ 00:17:12.610 Amber Lin: I see, I see. Wow, yeah, I’m cause I’m also a international student here. I know how hard it is with all the visa stuff like sometimes you, you get the job or you don’t get a job. It doesn’t depend on you
124 00:17:13.179 ⇒ 00:17:13.739 Amber Lin: exactly.
125 00:17:13.740 ⇒ 00:17:16.057 Amber Lin: Yeah. I understand.
126 00:17:17.000 ⇒ 00:17:39.490 Usama Riaz: And I consider myself very lucky because I went. I went back to Pakistan, so it’s very difficult to find a good job as a on a project manager level in a big company, because now very big companies with 6,000 employees set now. So yes, they have a very enterprise level project in Gcc region. So you can say, I am working on kind of at this lot
127 00:17:39.670 ⇒ 00:17:42.510 Usama Riaz: level companies project. There are a lot of things.
128 00:17:43.160 ⇒ 00:17:47.500 Usama Riaz: So, yeah, yes, it happens.
129 00:17:48.450 ⇒ 00:18:05.159 Amber Lin: Okay, okay, sounds good. I’m just finishing off the notes so I can send it to my boss. So I got the got my roof, and then I got that. It’s 7, like 7 or 8 out of 10 I got, and you and he wanted.
130 00:18:05.310 ⇒ 00:18:07.620 Amber Lin: and he will rate you 8 out of 10.
131 00:18:07.620 ⇒ 00:18:10.580 Usama Riaz: 8 out of 10, and Eliaskhan 10 out of 10.
132 00:18:11.140 ⇒ 00:18:14.340 Usama Riaz: Ilias ILYA. S. Ilias Khan.
133 00:18:14.900 ⇒ 00:18:23.029 Amber Lin: Yeah, sounds good and raised you 8 out of 10 because he was because you were helping. You did really well on the
134 00:18:24.600 ⇒ 00:18:26.490 Amber Lin: like the training project.
135 00:18:26.490 ⇒ 00:18:33.650 Usama Riaz: No, that was in cloud search and with company I was managing or heading the Pm. Department Pmo. Department.
136 00:18:34.414 ⇒ 00:18:39.000 Amber Lin: Okay. Heading the Pm, department. Okay?
137 00:18:39.500 ⇒ 00:18:40.030 Usama Riaz: Yes.
138 00:18:40.750 ⇒ 00:18:45.690 Amber Lin: Yeah, sounds good. I think that’s all the questions on my end. Do you have any questions you wanted to ask me?
139 00:18:46.663 ⇒ 00:18:51.100 Usama Riaz: Yes, with this company brain for if I’m not.
140 00:18:51.370 ⇒ 00:19:03.670 Usama Riaz: if I’m not pronouncing in a wrong way, please correct me so. Yes, so is there any chance to travel abroad or visit client side, or it’s just remote
141 00:19:03.790 ⇒ 00:19:04.960 Usama Riaz: opportunity.
142 00:19:06.040 ⇒ 00:19:31.894 Amber Lin: Well, I’ve been able to travel to. One of my clients are in Texas, so I’m based in California, and I’ve been able to travel there and visit them. I’m not very sure how the visa status would be if you have to travel abroad, because then you’ll need an additional visa. We don’t yet have a legal department. We have 3rd party legal people that’s helping us. So visa status might be a bit hard.
143 00:19:32.930 ⇒ 00:19:37.879 Amber Lin: but I do think like in the future.
144 00:19:37.880 ⇒ 00:19:40.380 Usama Riaz: Be a possibility in future. Obviously, yes, it could be.
145 00:19:40.380 ⇒ 00:19:42.070 Amber Lin: They would. We would like Pm.
146 00:19:42.070 ⇒ 00:19:42.530 Usama Riaz: Office.
147 00:19:42.530 ⇒ 00:19:43.729 Amber Lin: At the clients. Yeah.
148 00:19:43.730 ⇒ 00:19:55.339 Usama Riaz: It excites you more when you are considering any opportunity that you will get a chance to move or travel abroad to visit international clients. Obviously you will get a good exposure. So there are a lot of things behind that.
149 00:19:56.190 ⇒ 00:20:22.900 Amber Lin: yeah, and also on that note, so I’m an international student, we have someone working in malta who is planning to move to the Us. So I’ve heard from my bosses that they’re considering sponsorship. So that’s something in the discussion down the line. I think you would also be interested in h. 1 b sponsorship down the line. It’s not set in stone, but I just wanted to let you know, because I’m interested in that as well.
150 00:20:23.320 ⇒ 00:20:28.065 Usama Riaz: Great. Okay? So my second question is, because,
151 00:20:29.520 ⇒ 00:20:38.840 Usama Riaz: I just want to know about the you can say the the Budget office for the position. Is there any any specific budget? Is there any open budget?
152 00:20:38.980 ⇒ 00:20:39.930 Usama Riaz: Because
153 00:20:40.200 ⇒ 00:20:56.759 Usama Riaz: I I should know this is my right to know. You can say, what should I ask in the final? Because obviously I’m quite interested in this opportunity, and I don’t want to ask for a very high amount so that you can, you can say, exclude me in into your
154 00:20:56.930 ⇒ 00:21:01.819 Usama Riaz: panel, or you can say shortlisted list. So yes.
155 00:21:02.500 ⇒ 00:21:17.970 Amber Lin: Yeah, I I, personally don’t have the budget for it yet. Feel you have my email feel free to message me and or message, Utam, and then we’ll get back to you with a number. I, personally don’t manage the budget so I wouldn’t be able to answer that.
156 00:21:17.970 ⇒ 00:21:32.189 Usama Riaz: Obviously, when you are recruiting someone. So you have a budget for the position, for example, the position. So sorry. I’m sorry the budget for the position of project manager would be 1010,000 per month, 7,000. It could be anything
157 00:21:32.240 ⇒ 00:21:51.790 Usama Riaz: so there should be a budget or any, for example. Obviously, I know brain fork is a startup company. So there’s nothing like that. They have open budget. So candidate can ask anything. Obviously, it’s not making sense. So I was just asking so let it be. I can keep this question for the you can say final
158 00:21:52.490 ⇒ 00:21:53.320 Amber Lin: Yeah, of course.
159 00:21:53.320 ⇒ 00:21:56.049 Usama Riaz: And you can say final round of the interview. So.
160 00:21:56.050 ⇒ 00:22:10.869 Amber Lin: Yeah, of course I understand. Feel free to feel free to ping me. If I don’t give you an answer, I’ll I’ll ask my CEO for that, because I know they signed a few new clients, so I do think they have more budget this month as well.
161 00:22:11.510 ⇒ 00:22:12.740 Usama Riaz: Great great thing.
162 00:22:12.740 ⇒ 00:22:13.320 Amber Lin: Okay.
163 00:22:13.320 ⇒ 00:22:26.660 Usama Riaz: And yes, anything else you think I should ask, or that should be in my notice. Before joining or before having conversation with your bosses like
164 00:22:26.890 ⇒ 00:22:27.710 Usama Riaz: anything you.
165 00:22:27.710 ⇒ 00:22:28.420 Amber Lin: Oh!
166 00:22:28.420 ⇒ 00:22:30.830 Usama Riaz: You can say, be prepared, or.
167 00:22:30.830 ⇒ 00:22:52.160 Amber Lin: Yeah, I think it would be really helpful if you take a closer look at our website, we’re making some cool stuff with AI. So maybe it’s live on the demo side. So I’ll check if it’s available. We also have some case studies also present, so you can look to get a better idea what type of projects we manage. I do think everything is on our website.
168 00:22:52.410 ⇒ 00:22:58.689 Usama Riaz: Sure. Let me tell you one thing which obviously helps to. You can say we are going to brag.
169 00:22:58.960 ⇒ 00:23:12.939 Usama Riaz: make a good impact on my profile I had a chance to work on a AI project. There was a company in cloud search, and we were working with, you can say, doctors, they want us to make a azure AI chat board, which communicate for the patient, and as per the
170 00:23:13.100 ⇒ 00:23:25.099 Usama Riaz: sees, or as per the condition the Board will decide. Either it needs to be book, an appointment with the doctor. It’s with the calendar, or it needs to be. You can say, call 9 1 1 ambulance. So they’re they’re.
171 00:23:25.385 ⇒ 00:23:25.670 Amber Lin: Okay.
172 00:23:25.670 ⇒ 00:23:33.819 Usama Riaz: I have worked with the you can say that a lot of Ea projects I’ve worked on so. Yes, you can. Add this thing with my profiles.
173 00:23:33.820 ⇒ 00:23:37.900 Amber Lin: Yeah, I’ll note that down. I think that’s really cool. Yeah, I’m gonna write that down.
174 00:23:38.170 ⇒ 00:23:42.149 Usama Riaz: Sure that’s great. So anything else you want me to
175 00:23:42.580 ⇒ 00:23:46.870 Usama Riaz: explain, or you have something to ask, or we are good for. Now
176 00:23:46.870 ⇒ 00:23:54.360 Usama Riaz: I think that’s all. I’m gonna get back to my bosses, and if we go to the second round it will be more detailed on your
177 00:23:54.360 ⇒ 00:23:55.060 Usama Riaz: exactly.
178 00:23:55.373 ⇒ 00:23:59.759 Amber Lin: Previous experiences, how you manage it and things. So this is mostly a screening.
179 00:24:00.360 ⇒ 00:24:04.129 Usama Riaz: Great great. So who will be the next interview? Autum, or anyone else?
180 00:24:04.130 ⇒ 00:24:16.789 Amber Lin: So it will either be utam, or it will be an Pm. Advisor that we have. So he works at in the Us. At a very famous investment firm, and he’s just serving as advisors for the Pmo.
181 00:24:17.530 ⇒ 00:24:22.209 Usama Riaz: Great good. So that would be exciting, sure, great.
182 00:24:22.210 ⇒ 00:24:22.630 Amber Lin: Okay.
183 00:24:22.630 ⇒ 00:24:23.030 Usama Riaz: Canberra.
184 00:24:23.030 ⇒ 00:24:24.250 Usama Riaz: Thank you so much.
185 00:24:24.400 ⇒ 00:24:26.629 Amber Lin: Yeah. Thank you. Bye.