Meeting Title: Brainforge Intro Meeting Date: 2025-07-29 Meeting participants: Sam Roberts, Miguel de Veyra
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1 00:00:58.840 ⇒ 00:00:59.509 Miguel de Veyra: Hey! Sam.
2 00:00:59.510 ⇒ 00:01:01.200 Sam Roberts: Good! Hey! How are you?
3 00:01:02.468 ⇒ 00:01:04.980 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, doing a, okay.
4 00:01:06.400 ⇒ 00:01:07.080 Sam Roberts: Sorry.
5 00:01:07.802 ⇒ 00:01:08.970 Miguel de Veyra: I’m doing. Okay. Sorry?
6 00:01:08.970 ⇒ 00:01:10.260 Sam Roberts: Oh, okay, yeah, you’re good. You’re good.
7 00:01:10.260 ⇒ 00:01:11.330 Miguel de Veyra: Bye, bye.
8 00:01:11.954 ⇒ 00:01:17.305 Sam Roberts: No worries. Yeah. So I think it’s just like a. This is just like an Intro meeting. Just so I can get to know you
9 00:01:17.650 ⇒ 00:01:19.549 Sam Roberts: you know. I guess
10 00:01:19.830 ⇒ 00:01:25.139 Sam Roberts: I’d I’d love to learn more about you. And I can give you a little bit about, and I can give you a little bit about me. If you want to start.
11 00:01:26.692 ⇒ 00:01:27.837 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, sure.
12 00:01:29.090 ⇒ 00:01:36.070 Miguel de Veyra: So I’ve been working with Utam for I think almost a year now. I started August back last year.
13 00:01:36.507 ⇒ 00:01:39.130 Miguel de Veyra: I think I was the 1st iteration of
14 00:01:39.550 ⇒ 00:01:42.670 Miguel de Veyra: AI, because primarily they deal in data.
15 00:01:43.020 ⇒ 00:01:43.590 Sam Roberts: Sure.
16 00:01:44.422 ⇒ 00:01:52.130 Miguel de Veyra: Before that I was working for a Polish company. And then before that, it was a Us. Company.
17 00:01:52.670 ⇒ 00:01:57.889 Miguel de Veyra: But yeah, I’ve been basically working on AI for the past 2 to 3 years
18 00:01:58.080 ⇒ 00:02:02.299 Miguel de Veyra: more on not really machine learning, although I’ve been
19 00:02:02.400 ⇒ 00:02:06.879 Miguel de Veyra: diving into that recently, but more on, like the automation side of things.
20 00:02:07.220 ⇒ 00:02:07.850 Sam Roberts: Sure.
21 00:02:08.949 ⇒ 00:02:15.199 Miguel de Veyra: And agentic stuff. Yeah, but yeah, I think that’s pretty much it for my end.
22 00:02:16.210 ⇒ 00:02:19.216 Sam Roberts: Great. Okay? Yeah. So a little bit of my background.
23 00:02:19.960 ⇒ 00:02:43.539 Sam Roberts: So I’ve been in startups for better part of it over a decade now. In in tech my background is engineering, originally mechanical engineering. But I was working in various forms of software for a lot of years. My last company was a company I was working on in London. That was like a collaborative desk
24 00:02:43.870 ⇒ 00:02:51.409 Sam Roberts: online platform kind of thing, and whiteboards and all kinds of stuff, and that was right around the time that chat Gpt dropped. And
25 00:02:51.550 ⇒ 00:02:56.115 Sam Roberts: I’ve been kind of bouncing around in AI stuff since then.
26 00:02:57.100 ⇒ 00:03:01.810 Sam Roberts: in various forms. One of the things I was working on recently was a travel app with the guy here in Cleveland?
27 00:03:04.040 ⇒ 00:03:09.879 Sam Roberts: But yeah, I’ve been been using it in all kinds of ways. Been, you know, flat coding some things on the side and just doing some freelancing.
28 00:03:11.190 ⇒ 00:03:16.710 Sam Roberts: And yeah, that’s that’s kind of my immediate background. Cool.
29 00:03:18.110 ⇒ 00:03:34.369 Sam Roberts: Yeah. So I guess I’m curious. I’m still trying to wrap my head around like all the different projects and everything and forgive me, but I don’t necessarily remember exactly like which things you were on. I’m I’m just. Can you like fill me in a little bit on like what you’ve been kind of working on, and.
30 00:03:34.960 ⇒ 00:03:40.009 Miguel de Veyra: I before pull ports post. I’m not sure if you’re familiar with pull parts yet. If.
31 00:03:40.010 ⇒ 00:03:43.179 Sam Roberts: Quite. I mean, I’ve seen it, but I don’t. I don’t have the. I’m not into it yet. Yeah.
32 00:03:43.180 ⇒ 00:03:59.720 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, they’re more of like a data client. But they recently, you know, got into the entire AI stuff. Basically they wanted. Like, they said it themselves. They just want a Gpt, that’s the baseline they want a Gpt for their clients but branded to them.
33 00:04:01.080 ⇒ 00:04:04.449 Miguel de Veyra: So we basically provided them that, you know, and then
34 00:04:04.920 ⇒ 00:04:10.600 Miguel de Veyra: did some stuff about scraping Facebook credit stuff. Yada, Yadda. So it feels a bit more human.
35 00:04:10.940 ⇒ 00:04:16.277 Sam Roberts: And then. But yeah, after that, I think last week or the week, because I was out last week, I think the week.
36 00:04:16.890 ⇒ 00:04:21.329 Miguel de Veyra: I think the week before that they decided to pause because they were getting sued.
37 00:04:21.760 ⇒ 00:04:22.610 Sam Roberts: Oh no!
38 00:04:22.820 ⇒ 00:04:25.990 Miguel de Veyra: So. Yeah. And then other than that, I’ve
39 00:04:26.410 ⇒ 00:04:34.949 Miguel de Veyra: before I was working on the Ab. Well, I was working on everything before. But then, you know, new members came in so delegated a bit.
40 00:04:35.280 ⇒ 00:04:35.970 Sam Roberts: Okay.
41 00:04:36.410 ⇒ 00:04:39.659 Miguel de Veyra: And then, yeah, primarily. Now that pool parts gone, I’m
42 00:04:40.010 ⇒ 00:04:46.360 Miguel de Veyra: primarily working on the internal stuff like the platform. I was the one basically to initialize that.
43 00:04:46.680 ⇒ 00:04:54.207 Sam Roberts: Oh, nice. Okay, yeah. I’ve been playing around in that a little bit looking clicking around. I haven’t got the code running yet. Cause I just got this access
44 00:04:54.826 ⇒ 00:05:03.100 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, yeah, you probably need another. I know, I think, Mustafa. If Mustafa gave you the credentials, he should be accessing the
45 00:05:03.550 ⇒ 00:05:14.499 Miguel de Veyra: the live one, because the the front end is very, very standardized, like the get top of that. But the back end, since, you know, I just bootstrapped it. I’m using express for that.
46 00:05:14.500 ⇒ 00:05:14.820 Sam Roberts: Jose.
47 00:05:14.820 ⇒ 00:05:17.859 Miguel de Veyra: But I was deploying the branches in heroic.
48 00:05:18.340 ⇒ 00:05:27.449 Sam Roberts: I was I saw that some of the Roku Urls. I was wondering how all this is getting run. And I’m like I said, there’s so much I’m trying to just like sink my teeth into. I figured I’d be getting into some of those details at some point.
49 00:05:27.450 ⇒ 00:05:27.850 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah.
50 00:05:27.850 ⇒ 00:05:31.200 Sam Roberts: And I did see some heroic Urls floating around. So I was curious about that, too.
51 00:05:32.000 ⇒ 00:05:35.460 Sam Roberts: Okay, cool. How has that been? How like.
52 00:05:35.600 ⇒ 00:05:38.190 Sam Roberts: yeah, I’m curious, like about the platform stuff.
53 00:05:39.460 ⇒ 00:05:48.309 Miguel de Veyra: The platform has been because actually, before we plan to like stick with slack basically make it like, you know, everyone’s communicating through slack.
54 00:05:48.310 ⇒ 00:05:48.970 Sam Roberts: Yep.
55 00:05:48.970 ⇒ 00:05:56.670 Miguel de Veyra: Even through the agents. But of course, it’s slack, right? It’s not really we don’t. We have very limited control. And then
56 00:05:57.130 ⇒ 00:06:05.669 Miguel de Veyra: basically, we created like a channel before, where, you know, if you have request to AI, you just type it there. But then no one was really adopting it.
57 00:06:05.950 ⇒ 00:06:06.710 Sam Roberts: Okay.
58 00:06:06.710 ⇒ 00:06:21.099 Miguel de Veyra: Cause I wouldn’t use it either, right? Like I don’t want. I don’t want my stuff being out in public, but that was the initial idea because we didn’t want like a Ui, because, you know, it takes a lot of time to develop it. Even Vibe Codex you have to design.
59 00:06:21.870 ⇒ 00:06:33.910 Miguel de Veyra: It’s in. I guess that’s something that slack removes, because there’s no way to iterate. It’s 1 way. Okay, I I recommended it before. Actually, the platform. That Brainforge started as more of like a demo site.
60 00:06:34.310 ⇒ 00:06:34.980 Sam Roberts: Okay.
61 00:06:35.130 ⇒ 00:06:45.259 Miguel de Veyra: It’s just to show our clients basically what you know the capabilities. And then I think, over 2 months ago, we decided, Hey, why not, you know.
62 00:06:45.610 ⇒ 00:06:48.210 Miguel de Veyra: just make it our own. And then
63 00:06:48.360 ⇒ 00:06:53.550 Miguel de Veyra: if there’s still Demos, but it’s being basically iframed into.
64 00:06:55.020 ⇒ 00:06:59.360 Miguel de Veyra: What do you call that to our main website.
65 00:06:59.570 ⇒ 00:07:00.240 Sam Roberts: Okay.
66 00:07:00.610 ⇒ 00:07:05.790 Miguel de Veyra: So if you notice there’s some. If you go to Demos, there’s some Urls there that
67 00:07:05.970 ⇒ 00:07:09.149 Miguel de Veyra: the sidebar is obviously gone, and the logins.
68 00:07:09.150 ⇒ 00:07:11.530 Sam Roberts: Oh, yeah. Okay, yeah.
69 00:07:12.750 ⇒ 00:07:14.600 Sam Roberts: Oh, interesting. That makes sense.
70 00:07:15.330 ⇒ 00:07:17.250 Sam Roberts: Okay, good to know.
71 00:07:17.250 ⇒ 00:07:19.880 Miguel de Veyra: Because we don’t actually need to do it right?
72 00:07:20.247 ⇒ 00:07:25.859 Miguel de Veyra: I mean, yeah, I mean, we don’t actually need to access it. I doubt anyone in the team is using Demos.
73 00:07:26.070 ⇒ 00:07:29.000 Sam Roberts: Yeah, fair enough. Okay, cool. Cool.
74 00:07:30.460 ⇒ 00:07:39.690 Sam Roberts: great. Yeah. I mean, I guess that I’ve just been jumping into a bunch of stuff. So I guess I’m curious like, what are any things you think I need to be aware of, or you know
75 00:07:40.180 ⇒ 00:07:41.390 Sam Roberts: any.
76 00:07:41.620 ⇒ 00:07:49.122 Sam Roberts: I don’t know the best phrases, you know, like things I should like, look at specifically. Or where do you think I should like focus any effort?
77 00:07:50.437 ⇒ 00:07:53.460 Sam Roberts: yeah, just to get up to speed need more than anything.
78 00:07:54.290 ⇒ 00:07:58.079 Miguel de Veyra: Honestly, I think unless you do, you have background in data.
79 00:07:58.935 ⇒ 00:08:04.639 Sam Roberts: My background’s not really did. It’s mostly in, you know. I’ve been mostly a typescript Javascript guy full stack.
80 00:08:04.640 ⇒ 00:08:06.740 Miguel de Veyra: I think we have pretty much the same background.
81 00:08:06.740 ⇒ 00:08:07.430 Sam Roberts: Okay. Yeah.
82 00:08:07.430 ⇒ 00:08:17.040 Miguel de Veyra: I think we that’s where I struggled a lot. When you know anything related to data stuff like that, I just couldn’t figure it out.
83 00:08:17.270 ⇒ 00:08:17.680 Sam Roberts: Okay.
84 00:08:18.825 ⇒ 00:08:24.089 Miguel de Veyra: So yeah, I mean, now, there’s, you know, an AI, there’s a ways. And
85 00:08:24.481 ⇒ 00:08:31.539 Miguel de Veyra: Luke that helps us with that. But before it was. I think we were stuck on one thing. But yeah, I think that’s probably the only thing
86 00:08:31.690 ⇒ 00:08:35.290 Miguel de Veyra: you know. You should know that if there’s data work.
87 00:08:35.450 ⇒ 00:08:42.900 Miguel de Veyra: I’d ask Utam, or I don’t know. I wish to. Hey, can you do this? If they’re not too busy, though it takes weeks
88 00:08:43.365 ⇒ 00:08:49.239 Miguel de Veyra: for them to fix some stuff. But yeah, it’s way better than you trying to study it
89 00:08:49.790 ⇒ 00:08:55.560 Miguel de Veyra: on a perpetual spike, and you just can’t improve. I mean, you can’t just get anything done.
90 00:08:55.970 ⇒ 00:08:58.178 Sam Roberts: Makes sense. Okay, cool, cool.
91 00:08:59.460 ⇒ 00:09:09.622 Sam Roberts: yeah. I mean, I guess I don’t have any more like specifics. I was wondering about the the platform a bit, but I’m sure I’ll have more as I’m digging through and and trying to wrap my head around it. More
92 00:09:11.020 ⇒ 00:09:12.659 Miguel de Veyra: I think the other thing.
93 00:09:13.210 ⇒ 00:09:15.989 Miguel de Veyra: Yes, cause you’re gonna be the tech lead right?
94 00:09:16.310 ⇒ 00:09:19.439 Sam Roberts: That’s yeah. Yeah. I’m once I’m sort of up and running. But yes, that’s that’s.
95 00:09:19.836 ⇒ 00:09:24.199 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, I think you’re gonna be working a lot with
96 00:09:24.500 ⇒ 00:09:31.419 Miguel de Veyra: ABC, I think I’m not sure if that’s the case. But most of the clients. They’re gonna have some sort of data.
97 00:09:32.240 ⇒ 00:09:39.839 Miguel de Veyra: So yeah, data is probably because, honestly, you know, our job is pretty straightforward. But the data stuff isn’t.
98 00:09:40.410 ⇒ 00:09:41.350 Sam Roberts: Good to know.
99 00:09:44.100 ⇒ 00:09:45.800 Sam Roberts: Alright. Great.
100 00:09:47.445 ⇒ 00:09:56.889 Sam Roberts: Yeah. Is there anything else on on your end? Anything you are wondering about me, or anything I can help you with. Right now, I guess. Not.
101 00:09:58.103 ⇒ 00:10:11.180 Miguel de Veyra: I’ll probably send you something later, after we cause there’s this ticket that it’s been going on for like a month mentioned. But I can’t. It’s technically done. But I can’t really book anymore.
102 00:10:11.500 ⇒ 00:10:17.890 Miguel de Veyra: Because, again, like it just says, Hey, contact this like there, there’s nothing I can do to
103 00:10:18.000 ⇒ 00:10:27.589 Miguel de Veyra: do that because that’s on there, because basically we’re automating like a booking system for the pool part, CEO. So we need to click this selectors. Yada, Yada.
104 00:10:27.900 ⇒ 00:10:32.629 Miguel de Veyra: But then there’s no schedule, and it’s been like that for 2, 3, 3 weeks almost, I think.
105 00:10:32.630 ⇒ 00:10:33.230 Sam Roberts: Hmm.
106 00:10:33.620 ⇒ 00:10:39.880 Miguel de Veyra: And then he just we were talking yesterday, and they mentioned that. Hey, my friend did this for like 10 bucks.
107 00:10:40.800 ⇒ 00:10:45.299 Miguel de Veyra: and I was like I’m I’m not sure how you did it, because there’s no way to book it.
108 00:10:45.670 ⇒ 00:10:47.010 Sam Roberts: Interesting. Okay.
109 00:10:47.190 ⇒ 00:10:53.010 Miguel de Veyra: Right? Like I I guess if it’s our technical limitation, then it’s fine. But then
110 00:10:53.120 ⇒ 00:11:02.539 Miguel de Veyra: there’s not. You can’t even click the selector, because it just says, There, please contact the pro shop, for you know, cause this this date is not available for booking.
111 00:11:04.106 ⇒ 00:11:12.770 Sam Roberts: Okay, yeah, I definitely I can. I can help take a look and see if I, you know, agree and make sure that that’s all that they would do for yeah, I don’t know. I don’t know the details, obviously. So I don’t wanna.
112 00:11:12.770 ⇒ 00:11:14.409 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, I can send you after.
113 00:11:14.410 ⇒ 00:11:18.610 Sam Roberts: Totally. Yeah, that’d be great. I’ll take a look awesome.
114 00:11:18.610 ⇒ 00:11:24.419 Miguel de Veyra: Oh, but yeah, I think that’s pretty much it on my end. I’m currently working on some
115 00:11:24.850 ⇒ 00:11:31.039 Miguel de Veyra: basically documenting the what do you call this the client Hubs, and how to make them.
116 00:11:31.610 ⇒ 00:11:33.650 Sam Roberts: Right? Right? Okay. I remember that from yesterday.
117 00:11:34.960 ⇒ 00:11:36.209 Sam Roberts: Excellent. All right.
118 00:11:36.560 ⇒ 00:11:37.310 Sam Roberts: Cool.
119 00:11:38.301 ⇒ 00:11:46.149 Sam Roberts: Yeah, I’m sure I’ll you know I’m like, I said, I’m sinking my teeth in. I’m sure I’ll be in slack a bit more, asking questions and stuff. Once I.
120 00:11:46.890 ⇒ 00:11:47.300 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, yeah.
121 00:11:47.300 ⇒ 00:11:58.499 Sam Roberts: So like you start jumping on things. But cool, yeah, if nothing else. It’s great to like, you know. Meet you one on one. Yeah. Feel free to reach out with anything. And yeah, definitely send that over.
122 00:11:59.160 ⇒ 00:12:01.280 Miguel de Veyra: Okay, thanks, Sam. I hope you have a good day.
123 00:12:01.280 ⇒ 00:12:04.080 Sam Roberts: Thanks so much, Miguel. Yeah. And you, too, bye.