Meeting Title: Brainforge Internship Status and Future Plans Date: 2025-07-16 Meeting participants: Vishnu, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:00:42.523 ⇒ 00:00:43.589 Vishnu: Here! Dump.
2 00:00:43.590 ⇒ 00:00:44.620 Uttam Kumaran: Hey! How are you?
3 00:00:44.840 ⇒ 00:00:46.580 Vishnu: I’m good. I’m good. How are you?
4 00:00:46.580 ⇒ 00:00:47.820 Uttam Kumaran: Good? How’s life?
5 00:00:48.892 ⇒ 00:00:56.080 Vishnu: Going good, I think. This is this is like, Oh, it’s close to like 2 weeks, 2 and a half weeks. It.
6 00:00:56.080 ⇒ 00:01:01.640 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, the operating work is great. I know. I just left some comments, but that was it was great. It’s a big help for us.
7 00:01:02.320 ⇒ 00:01:22.852 Vishnu: Yeah, of course. I think like my pace of working hasn’t hasn’t been at the at my normal pace, like. Generally, I would like work a little bit more faster. But yeah, for the past 2 weeks I had also had like a bunch of like, like I told you. I had to. I had a professor that I was trying to like, get a part time job with, and then
8 00:01:23.130 ⇒ 00:01:38.649 Vishnu: some other like startup, like I got a couple of startup interview calls for like full time roles. And yeah, a lot of things just happened together. So I wouldn’t say, like, Yeah, I like
9 00:01:39.770 ⇒ 00:01:47.625 Vishnu: while I am doing the tasks of Brainforge like I would say, like, my my pace wasn’t on my normal
10 00:01:49.010 ⇒ 00:01:50.170 Vishnu: good pace.
11 00:01:50.380 ⇒ 00:01:58.540 Vishnu: Yeah. Yeah. But thanks for the comments that you left. And I think I’m still in the process of them like doing those.
12 00:01:58.540 ⇒ 00:01:59.110 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
13 00:01:59.470 ⇒ 00:02:06.139 Vishnu: Yeah, apart from that the Snowflake Etl pipeline that has been. Yeah, that’s done, too.
14 00:02:06.630 ⇒ 00:02:16.639 Vishnu: And yeah, there were like the issue with snowflake authentication, at least in my head, like I tried a bunch of different approaches. And
15 00:02:17.350 ⇒ 00:02:21.730 Vishnu: yeah, I I should have just asked Avesh for the key
16 00:02:21.920 ⇒ 00:02:24.920 Vishnu: like, he made a different service account. And then, yeah, yeah.
17 00:02:25.480 ⇒ 00:02:34.081 Vishnu: And yeah, even though, like he had given me the key for a day, the key was not working, too. And yeah, again,
18 00:02:34.560 ⇒ 00:02:39.029 Vishnu: once he got on a call he like helped me figure out how to debug that part.
19 00:02:39.030 ⇒ 00:02:42.890 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. Yeah, usually, just for that stuff. I would just get on a call really quickly.
20 00:02:43.130 ⇒ 00:02:47.450 Vishnu: Yes, and yeah, within like, 30 min it was up and running.
21 00:02:48.020 ⇒ 00:02:49.350 Uttam Kumaran: Hmm. Okay. Nice.
22 00:02:50.995 ⇒ 00:03:05.249 Vishnu: Yes. So that’s what’s happening on brain foods. And also I wanted to keep you updated like posted. So just in the last 2 weeks. I’ve gotten 2 offer letters.
23 00:03:05.670 ⇒ 00:03:12.690 Vishnu: So so one is from this company called Cbs, which is like a full time role.
24 00:03:13.536 ⇒ 00:03:23.939 Vishnu: It’s a data engineering role and another is an data. And and so it’s a machine learning applied machine learning intern at shopify
25 00:03:24.562 ⇒ 00:03:29.150 Vishnu: and that’s going to be from like September to next April.
26 00:03:29.820 ⇒ 00:03:30.505 Vishnu: So
27 00:03:31.440 ⇒ 00:03:41.282 Vishnu: so I I just got that. I still haven’t signed the offer letters. But then, before that, I wanted to like try and like talk to you and see
28 00:03:42.000 ⇒ 00:03:42.860 Vishnu: like
29 00:03:43.459 ⇒ 00:03:53.890 Vishnu: like. What will. What future do you see of mine at like brain forge like, what are the opportunities? Because I I would like prefer joining a startup.
30 00:03:54.330 ⇒ 00:04:01.319 Vishnu: But then I also have these 2 offer letters in hand, and like, given that, I’m an international student, and my visa
31 00:04:02.171 ⇒ 00:04:15.869 Vishnu: will expire if I don’t have a sponsor. So yeah, just what are your thoughts about these 2 companies, and like the roles and like brain forge like, do you feel? I can? I have. I can contribute to brain forge, too.
32 00:04:16.180 ⇒ 00:04:17.680 Vishnu: a full time or part time.
33 00:04:17.680 ⇒ 00:04:23.060 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean. So we’re not doing any like visa sponsorships at the moment.
34 00:04:24.057 ⇒ 00:04:28.640 Uttam Kumaran: So if that’s a requirement, I feel like it’s gonna be tough for us.
35 00:04:28.920 ⇒ 00:04:29.525 Vishnu: Okay.
36 00:04:30.660 ⇒ 00:04:34.494 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s probably the 1st thing I’ll say I can’t really speak to other companies. I mean.
37 00:04:34.970 ⇒ 00:04:39.769 Uttam Kumaran: I I mean, I only I really only care about our company. So like I.
38 00:04:39.770 ⇒ 00:04:40.240 Vishnu: Good.
39 00:04:40.240 ⇒ 00:04:46.249 Uttam Kumaran: I I feel like we have. We have a great, you know, opportunity. I you know I would have to direct to a wish
40 00:04:46.370 ⇒ 00:04:48.160 Uttam Kumaran: and 2 amber about
41 00:04:48.790 ⇒ 00:05:03.300 Uttam Kumaran: sort of who we need and skill set. I mean, the goal of sort of the internship was to sort of see whether your skill set matches what we need, and so only sort of been 2 weeks. So I’m not sure. And I haven’t been working directly, you know, with you on stuff, so I would have to kind of defer.
42 00:05:03.410 ⇒ 00:05:06.199 Uttam Kumaran: Do you know, Amber, on that.
43 00:05:06.820 ⇒ 00:05:09.850 Vishnu: Okay, okay, okay, go.
44 00:05:09.850 ⇒ 00:05:10.240 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
45 00:05:10.240 ⇒ 00:05:18.759 Vishnu: Got it. Okay? So okay, from based of the work that I have done for like. So as of now, I have only built etl pipelines.
46 00:05:19.150 ⇒ 00:05:28.396 Vishnu: And so connecting like Apis to a database. That’s what I have done for Brainforge.
47 00:05:29.750 ⇒ 00:05:33.870 Vishnu: And yeah, I completely see like,
48 00:05:34.900 ⇒ 00:05:46.450 Vishnu: I see how I can contribute to Brainforge and like I was also talking with Hannah about like contributing to the marketing team, because I also have like experience in marketing.
49 00:05:46.930 ⇒ 00:05:47.930 Vishnu: Oh.
50 00:05:48.690 ⇒ 00:06:03.160 Vishnu: like the past, my past work experience at one of my startup was like helping the marketing team, and I was telling Hannah about how like once I pitched like a dashboard, and the marketing team implemented that sort of I mean.
51 00:06:03.360 ⇒ 00:06:27.560 Vishnu: I I don’t know if if I just got lucky there. But then the marketing campaign went sort of viral, and we had on boarded a bunch of people for for Jovian. So like so I I told Hannah, like, yeah, I’m like, all like, if you ever need any help from me like if you feel I can contribute. Please let me know. I’m okay, open to contribute.
52 00:06:27.560 ⇒ 00:06:36.599 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, we like, I, I think that makes sense. I think we would. But I think primarily we would bring you on for data work. I mean, we’re not really hiring more folks.
53 00:06:37.150 ⇒ 00:06:38.590 Uttam Kumaran: That’s on the marketing side.
54 00:06:39.015 ⇒ 00:06:39.440 Vishnu: Okay.
55 00:06:39.440 ⇒ 00:06:40.969 Uttam Kumaran: But again I
56 00:06:41.449 ⇒ 00:06:45.239 Uttam Kumaran: I guess if you’re asking me for an offer right now, I really can’t make one. I don’t really know.
57 00:06:45.240 ⇒ 00:06:47.460 Vishnu: No, no, no, I’m not asking.
58 00:06:47.460 ⇒ 00:06:47.940 Uttam Kumaran: You want to know.
59 00:06:47.940 ⇒ 00:07:00.190 Vishnu: I’m just like, so I’m in the situation now where, like all of a sudden, I got got like 2 offer letters. And yeah, both those roles are gonna start in September.
60 00:07:00.350 ⇒ 00:07:01.010 Vishnu: So
61 00:07:02.060 ⇒ 00:07:02.640 Vishnu: But.
62 00:07:02.640 ⇒ 00:07:07.929 Uttam Kumaran: Do you have a do you have like a a time where you have to accept by, or you have to accept in the next week or so.
63 00:07:09.239 ⇒ 00:07:16.070 Vishnu: I have to accept it by. So the Shopify rule has a acceptance of 21st
64 00:07:17.080 ⇒ 00:07:17.530 Vishnu: this month.
65 00:07:18.000 ⇒ 00:07:19.309 Vishnu: Yes, of this month.
66 00:07:19.310 ⇒ 00:07:20.470 Uttam Kumaran: So by next week.
67 00:07:20.470 ⇒ 00:07:21.939 Vishnu: By next week. Next Monday.
68 00:07:21.940 ⇒ 00:07:25.429 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. I mean, I I don’t. There’s I don’t think there’s gonna be any way we can.
69 00:07:26.960 ⇒ 00:07:31.470 Uttam Kumaran: Make a decision by then just just being honest.
70 00:07:31.750 ⇒ 00:07:32.480 Vishnu: Okay.
71 00:07:34.520 ⇒ 00:07:37.420 Vishnu: Okay, so oh.
72 00:07:37.420 ⇒ 00:07:38.840 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, it’s it’s just like
73 00:07:39.190 ⇒ 00:07:41.950 Uttam Kumaran: I get that you have those offers. But like.
74 00:07:42.210 ⇒ 00:07:57.770 Uttam Kumaran: I think it’s, we’re kind of in a tough spot because the goal, the goal. For this I we weren’t. We didn’t originally have sort of any roles like open for full time. The goal for this internship was to kind of evaluate and see. And like we’re, we’re working hard. But we’re a startup. So we’re not really like
75 00:07:58.210 ⇒ 00:08:02.480 Uttam Kumaran: we don’t have like a hundred roles open all the time. So it’s a little bit tough for us to
76 00:08:02.830 ⇒ 00:08:07.020 Uttam Kumaran: kind of work. We we especially. We’re not trying to hire like super fast. So.
77 00:08:07.020 ⇒ 00:08:07.770 Vishnu: Okay. Okay.
78 00:08:07.770 ⇒ 00:08:08.360 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
79 00:08:08.810 ⇒ 00:08:23.589 Vishnu: Okay so utam, then like, at least based on what you told me like, wouldn’t it be like, would it be okay, like, if I pick one of those, offer letters and like, continue part time with your company
80 00:08:24.170 ⇒ 00:08:26.010 Vishnu: like, that’s that’s fine. Yeah.
81 00:08:26.010 ⇒ 00:08:28.990 Vishnu: Internship is done like at Brainforge.
82 00:08:29.310 ⇒ 00:08:31.632 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean again, like, I
83 00:08:32.020 ⇒ 00:08:33.710 Vishnu: Like again, depending on whether you want.
84 00:08:34.080 ⇒ 00:08:37.520 Uttam Kumaran: Keep me part. That’s that’s fine. Yeah, I don’t. I don’t mind that at all.
85 00:08:39.230 ⇒ 00:08:40.329 Vishnu: Okay, okay.
86 00:08:40.530 ⇒ 00:08:49.879 Vishnu: got it, got it. And just in general, I I asked you this again before I’m trying to like again. Try and get your perspective information about.
87 00:08:49.880 ⇒ 00:09:14.700 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, I hear you. I just like, and I know I know that you’re kind of also in a in a tough spot, but like I would off I would. I would totally offer you a job if I had the money, and I had, like all the planning, but no longer just up to me anymore. So we have to kind of check in like, what are the clients coming up? What is our capacity like the roles we need. And so it’s a lot on a wish and amber and if other people to kind of go through approvals.
88 00:09:16.370 ⇒ 00:09:17.090 Uttam Kumaran: so.
89 00:09:17.350 ⇒ 00:09:20.015 Vishnu: Got it, got it okay? And
90 00:09:21.340 ⇒ 00:09:35.469 Vishnu: I have one more like, so the other day I was talking to one like a startup that had come in contact to me through another friend of mine, and they wanted to build like a rag agent over their database
91 00:09:36.378 ⇒ 00:09:43.009 Vishnu: and their database is mainly like Pdfs. And they want to pull out insights from that. So
92 00:09:43.180 ⇒ 00:09:48.119 Vishnu: isn’t that something that Brainforge does too like the team at Brainforge?
93 00:09:48.120 ⇒ 00:09:52.210 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, we do that. We have. We have a bunch of clients that we sort of do that type of work for.
94 00:09:52.210 ⇒ 00:10:05.470 Vishnu: Right? Yeah. So okay. So when they got in touch with me, I was like, Hey, I’m already working for Brainforge. And I think this is exactly what Brainforge does, too. So okay. So yes, I I did give them the website link. And I told them.
95 00:10:05.470 ⇒ 00:10:16.559 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, if they’re interested, you know. And we’re starting to do this. But we’re gonna start also like an employee referral program. So if you’re if you bring in business and stuff, then I can definitely send a referral fee for that.
96 00:10:17.122 ⇒ 00:10:20.799 Uttam Kumaran: We’re starting to work on that program because I want sort of everybody to
97 00:10:21.170 ⇒ 00:10:33.729 Uttam Kumaran: benefit from referring business, you know, to the company. And so yeah, happy to talk to them and are happy to, even if you if you ping our marketing team, they can give you case studies to send to them anything you need.
98 00:10:34.410 ⇒ 00:11:03.549 Vishnu: Got it. Got it. Okay, okay. So so I I just had one call with them this Monday. And they they asked me to get on another call. They basically asked me to like, explore and tell me if, like, I can do it. So they wanted me to do it. And they did not, because I haven’t posted on my Linkedin yet that I am interning for Brainforge. Okay? Because I I told you that I’m like, I I still haven’t gotten my Ead card right? So I don’t want to like leave a paper trail.
99 00:11:03.550 ⇒ 00:11:03.890 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
100 00:11:03.890 ⇒ 00:11:24.380 Vishnu: Yeah, yeah. So they didn’t know that. And like again, it’s through a point of contact that this came in. So okay, so yeah, from what I’ve understood about their startup, I don’t think I will have the like bandwidth to go and like work with that all by myself. So I’m gonna like, try and like.
101 00:11:24.720 ⇒ 00:11:31.940 Vishnu: basically tell them to like contact brain force and like, we can help help them as a team rather than me, doing it individually.
102 00:11:32.390 ⇒ 00:11:33.420 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Okay.
103 00:11:34.100 ⇒ 00:11:35.770 Vishnu: We got okay?
104 00:11:36.805 ⇒ 00:11:42.340 Vishnu: Cool. Yeah, that is something else that happened this week. And yeah, basically.
105 00:11:42.480 ⇒ 00:11:51.040 Vishnu: I think that’s that’s all that I have from my end, for now I’ll keep you posted with them like. Is there anything else that I have to be know? And
106 00:11:51.380 ⇒ 00:11:51.930 Vishnu: oh.
107 00:11:51.930 ⇒ 00:11:53.879 Uttam Kumaran: No thing, that’s that’s it from my side.
108 00:11:55.110 ⇒ 00:11:56.650 Vishnu: Got it. Okay? Okay?
109 00:11:56.940 ⇒ 00:12:01.932 Vishnu: And also, oh, yeah. One thing like, based there, there were a lot of other tasks
110 00:12:03.308 ⇒ 00:12:14.571 Vishnu: given to me on by Avesh on like the internship program here on linear I I like requested him to like, remove some of those tasks from my
111 00:12:15.130 ⇒ 00:12:19.640 Vishnu: in progress, because I was like having the the Snowflake
112 00:12:19.800 ⇒ 00:12:23.490 Vishnu: authentication issue literally took me 3 days to solve. So
113 00:12:24.610 ⇒ 00:12:36.529 Vishnu: so yes, the marketing dashboard thing. So I I told him, can I please focus only on the engineering data, pipeline, back end part. And can you like give the marketing dashboards to
114 00:12:37.000 ⇒ 00:12:42.622 Vishnu: Abigail. So I requested to him, and like he took it off my
115 00:12:43.481 ⇒ 00:12:46.999 Vishnu: board, so I’m just letting you know that, too.
116 00:12:47.000 ⇒ 00:12:48.639 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Okay. No. Problem.
117 00:12:48.910 ⇒ 00:12:54.349 Vishnu: Yes, yeah. Utham. That’s about it. Thank you.
118 00:12:54.350 ⇒ 00:12:56.719 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, thank you so much. I’ll talk to you soon.
119 00:12:56.720 ⇒ 00:12:58.290 Vishnu: Yep. Okay. Bye-bye.