Meeting Title: Brainforge Project Manager Interview Date: 2025-07-07 Meeting participants: Amber Lin, Rey Yap


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1 00:00:01.940 00:00:04.125 Amber Lin: Okay, awesome.

2 00:00:05.230 00:00:13.190 Amber Lin: I know. Luke. Luke recommended you to me and to our company, and I heard a lot of good things from him.

3 00:00:13.750 00:00:19.009 Rey Yap: Tended him to do so. Yeah, again, it was. It was a pleasure working with him before.

4 00:00:20.260 00:00:22.760 Amber Lin: How long have you been working with him for.

5 00:00:24.356 00:00:30.900 Rey Yap: I would we were in one team for about 6 years, but I worked.

6 00:00:30.900 00:00:32.009 Amber Lin: Wow!

7 00:00:32.450 00:00:37.910 Rey Yap: Yeah, and but I worked with him became his manager for about 3 years.

8 00:00:38.470 00:00:40.169 Rey Yap: 2 years, 2 years.

9 00:00:40.800 00:00:41.610 Amber Lin: Wow!

10 00:00:43.970 00:00:51.869 Amber Lin: That’s so interesting. And right now. And so you’ve mainly just worked as a project manager right.

11 00:00:52.430 00:00:53.290 Rey Yap: Yes.

12 00:00:53.810 00:00:56.280 Amber Lin: Is that what you want to do for your career.

13 00:00:57.230 00:01:02.389 Rey Yap: Yeah, I I am a journeyman. I consider myself as a journeyman. So

14 00:01:03.025 00:01:03.360 Amber Lin: Hmm.

15 00:01:03.360 00:01:07.360 Rey Yap: I would say I practiced project management

16 00:01:08.277 00:01:13.289 Rey Yap: since becoming Qa, I would say, because I say, I say

17 00:01:13.460 00:01:28.270 Rey Yap: quality assurance engineer, you’d really do project management on your own task from need to be involved in the very 1st phase of the project. But it happened to me by chance because of

18 00:01:28.380 00:01:30.029 Rey Yap: we had, like

19 00:01:30.820 00:01:44.859 Rey Yap: project managers leave it who left our team? Some 2 years ago. So I was put into interim role for as a project manager for since last year, and it was formalized this year around January.

20 00:01:45.350 00:01:45.940 Amber Lin: Hmm.

21 00:01:47.020 00:01:51.930 Rey Yap: I began to acknowledge and realize that

22 00:01:52.120 00:02:00.329 Rey Yap: I’ve been practicing the the same thing the same role but in specific teams like in the

23 00:02:01.360 00:02:02.640 Rey Yap: quality assurance

24 00:02:02.850 00:02:11.149 Rey Yap: in the technical support team. And just this year, with the data data engineering team as a total project manager.

25 00:02:11.980 00:02:19.519 Rey Yap: So like a lot of familiar terminologies that the when was introduced, but like having

26 00:02:20.035 00:02:29.770 Rey Yap: practicing the role for almost 2 years now. I just didn’t. I just didn’t know like the terminologies. But I’ve been practicing it, I would say

27 00:02:29.880 00:02:32.820 Rey Yap: for the past, I would say 12 to 15 years.

28 00:02:34.220 00:02:35.190 Amber Lin: Wow!

29 00:02:35.270 00:03:03.918 Amber Lin: That’s really impressive. Oh, I realized I forgot to introduce myself. Sorry about that. My name is Amber. I’ve been working on Brain Forge Brainforge. Since March. So not long, not that long ago. It’s been around for 3, 4 months now and quickly about Brainforge. So we are a data and AI consultancy. We’re still relatively new, a startup. We have been around for around

30 00:03:04.600 00:03:18.240 Amber Lin: a year and a half, almost almost 2 years now. And so what we do is we have clients that have data problems. And essentially, what we do is we help them figure out

31 00:03:18.350 00:03:26.240 Amber Lin: and customized solution of how to make the most out of their data. Either it’s to create.

32 00:03:26.370 00:03:55.479 Amber Lin: enable them to do better analytics, to have a clear view of what’s going on. Or if it’s creating the AI systems, so we help them set the foundation so that they can go ahead and do anything with it. And essentially the purpose of this interview just to get to get to know you a little bit more in in the end I can help answer any questions. So this is mostly just know what you want to do.

33 00:03:56.307 00:04:11.699 Amber Lin: What you are good at doing what you’re interested in doing or parts that where you’re not good at or not interested in doing professionally. So we can both see where we’re a fit.

34 00:04:12.550 00:04:14.730 Rey Yap: Yeah, thanks for explaining that.

35 00:04:15.201 00:04:33.239 Amber Lin: Yeah, and I know, I asked you a little bit about your project management. Experience, I think, I, just in general want to hear about your career goals of what you want to do, maybe now, or say 5 years, 10 years down the road like, what do you see yourself doing? What do you want to achieve?

36 00:04:34.790 00:04:41.270 Rey Yap: I really love? The types of tasks which involve problem solving.

37 00:04:42.430 00:04:43.440 Rey Yap: So

38 00:04:44.032 00:04:51.280 Rey Yap: when they when I step into the role of a project manager like really put practicing their role since last year.

39 00:04:52.191 00:04:54.839 Rey Yap: It’s a new area for me.

40 00:04:56.090 00:04:59.479 Rey Yap: But I come to learn to

41 00:05:00.108 00:05:04.769 Rey Yap: love the problem, solving aspect of it. Like the challenges of

42 00:05:05.710 00:05:18.590 Rey Yap: the risk management, the dependencies, and the overall planning between one team to to another. So what I especially love about it is the

43 00:05:18.740 00:05:29.330 Rey Yap: challenge of not just on the delivering the projects that the business needs, but bridging the gap between the stakeholders and the engineering team

44 00:05:29.440 00:05:33.390 Rey Yap: and putting a word for success for both teams. We’re in

45 00:05:34.783 00:05:44.240 Rey Yap: what they do is really in in the past team is, get some feedback within the stakeholders on how our projects impact them positively.

46 00:05:44.350 00:05:50.250 Rey Yap: or some areas that we that do, we improve on that we need to improve on. So

47 00:05:51.120 00:05:53.150 Rey Yap: I love that side of

48 00:05:53.847 00:06:04.332 Rey Yap: helping the business achieve their goals and at the same time, making sure that we’re doing it in the right way and making sure that the team members are not just

49 00:06:04.790 00:06:07.509 Rey Yap: like putting up numbers, but like

50 00:06:08.460 00:06:14.940 Rey Yap: making them like a self managing team, and in such a way that they do

51 00:06:15.110 00:06:25.130 Rey Yap: know how their work impact, not just the business and generating income, but and how they work their work impacts the business.

52 00:06:26.010 00:06:28.589 Rey Yap: Reducing, reducing cost, and

53 00:06:28.730 00:06:36.699 Rey Yap: on like. How a usual business process would take in a day to do like 2 h an exam for an example. So

54 00:06:37.610 00:06:39.462 Rey Yap: I see, okay,

55 00:06:41.150 00:06:42.280 Amber Lin: I think

56 00:06:42.530 00:06:50.500 Amber Lin: what I wanted to ask was more for you personally. What would what would you like to do? As a career.

57 00:06:51.300 00:07:00.490 Rey Yap: I would really love to. I think I’ve been with the I had a similar talk actually, sometimes 2 years ago, with my.

58 00:07:01.150 00:07:09.420 Rey Yap: I will see with my mentor and my boss report so like already. You asked me because I’m already a career manager.

59 00:07:09.710 00:07:31.010 Rey Yap: and he asked me if he will be stepping up into larger roles. You need to explore what you would want to do and what what what’s the best fit with what I can bring with with the business and with the team. So I would say, even if I’ve I’ve been with just 2 years with the Project manager role. I think I really have a lot to learn.

60 00:07:33.700 00:07:34.360 Rey Yap: Which

61 00:07:34.590 00:07:43.850 Rey Yap: I would say tech on the technical side of it. What what’s what’s how, how AI and data can can help

62 00:07:44.377 00:07:48.860 Rey Yap: me make with good decision making with the role.

63 00:07:50.620 00:07:54.720 Rey Yap: So I’d really love to explore more of their role.

64 00:07:55.830 00:08:05.662 Amber Lin: Yeah, that’s really great to hear. I’m happy to hear that you know what cause. We are a data and AI consultancy. And so it’s great for me to hear that.

65 00:08:06.100 00:08:20.139 Amber Lin: And my next question I have is also, what do you think you’re really good at? Professionally like? If you have to list the top 3 or top 5 things that you’re really good at. What would you say? Those are.

66 00:08:22.050 00:08:30.065 Rey Yap: Hmm top 3 top of my head. The person would really pick up, I would say, communication

67 00:08:30.430 00:08:31.090 Amber Lin: Okay.

68 00:08:34.169 00:08:39.849 Rey Yap: With with the experience that I have, I think what’s very constant with with me is

69 00:08:41.349 00:08:45.874 Rey Yap: really bridging the gap, even at some point

70 00:08:46.619 00:08:55.267 Rey Yap: become the Pocs of all sorts, and not just on the technical side of things, but on like even the lighter side of things like

71 00:08:57.779 00:09:00.907 Rey Yap: prob problem, solving video in terms of communication. We’re in

72 00:09:02.720 00:09:09.300 Rey Yap: 1 1 team or one person is not able to

73 00:09:09.847 00:09:14.550 Rey Yap: deliver their message to another another team or another person

74 00:09:15.315 00:09:22.254 Rey Yap: like interpreting the basically become a middle man or a middle middleware in a technical part between 2

75 00:09:23.255 00:09:23.770 Rey Yap: parties.

76 00:09:24.090 00:09:25.800 Rey Yap: Second would be,

77 00:09:27.170 00:09:35.629 Rey Yap: I really loved. I I began using data in much in many of my decision making. I guess around 10 years ago.

78 00:09:35.840 00:09:39.720 Rey Yap: and that was inspired. Because, I was.

79 00:09:39.930 00:09:41.650 Rey Yap: I was a claim manager.

80 00:09:41.840 00:09:53.740 Rey Yap: and I just see a trend looking at our work. And the team was put into a lot of pressure because we’re not making that land. So I look at the data

81 00:09:53.860 00:10:02.789 Rey Yap: and we’re and on my previous team, a previous company. They’re looking at like numbers

82 00:10:04.310 00:10:11.900 Rey Yap: hours we’re in. They’re not using it in the right way. Because they’re putting their resources at just start at the finish.

83 00:10:12.050 00:10:26.160 Rey Yap: And when I tried to get in the data out of it, like the the hours, really, for the partition starts somewhere at the later part. So like, I need, I put up a a a presentation explaining to the.

84 00:10:26.530 00:10:28.730 Amber Lin: Our leaders and the team. So.

85 00:10:29.040 00:10:34.819 Rey Yap: I would say I I don’t. I’m not. I’m not sure I I don’t.

86 00:10:36.940 00:10:40.310 Rey Yap: I’m not shy to say no to things as we.

87 00:10:41.737 00:10:46.489 Rey Yap: If I if it’s not too urgent, I would I would actually say that to.

88 00:10:46.830 00:10:51.829 Rey Yap: I’d come up with my decision after a while

89 00:10:52.040 00:10:56.170 Rey Yap: checking 1st with the data before making up a decision.

90 00:10:56.930 00:10:58.550 Rey Yap: Thirdly.

91 00:10:59.190 00:11:12.407 Rey Yap: yeah. And the next one would be just the relationship with team members start my 1st interview with all my team members with establishing that

92 00:11:13.000 00:11:16.690 Rey Yap: I really love conversations which are

93 00:11:18.520 00:11:39.360 Rey Yap: which which may which the my team member would probably be having second thoughts. So I I tell them that, and I love. I would encourage them to tell me anything, even if it’s about me. I would rather have uncomfortable conversations than assume that everything is fine. So I think

94 00:11:39.520 00:11:45.069 Rey Yap: most of my team team members appreciate that a lot from.

95 00:11:47.750 00:12:11.590 Amber Lin: Yeah, that sounds great. That’s really great to hear. I was just writing these down. I think those are really great qualities to have, and I know Luke really enjoyed working with you. He said you were someone that’s really awesome at over promising sorry wait under promising and over delivering, and that’s that’s really great to hear coming from him as well.

96 00:12:12.340 00:12:12.970 Rey Yap: Yeah, but

97 00:12:12.970 00:12:19.339 Rey Yap: but most of it, just most of it comes with like, I’m I’m also very picky with hiring me myself, like

98 00:12:22.407 00:12:27.629 Rey Yap: like the the my last team. They took me about 8, 8 months, 8 to 9 months.

99 00:12:27.830 00:12:38.990 Rey Yap: just to hire 4 people but I guess my director over the over the one year did

100 00:12:39.310 00:12:45.230 Rey Yap: know the reason why. I’m very picky, because, like not a really self managing team right now.

101 00:12:47.001 00:12:50.249 Amber Lin: what do you mean by a self managing team.

102 00:12:52.083 00:12:56.219 Rey Yap: I i i’m not a fan of like micromanaging so.

103 00:12:57.450 00:13:04.499 Rey Yap: and I would I would define it as a team that knows what to do

104 00:13:04.870 00:13:06.870 Rey Yap: on a day-to-day basis.

105 00:13:07.020 00:13:20.570 Rey Yap: and what steps in in behalf of their team members when they’re because if we got it on a weekly schedule, or in a monthly schedule like there would be down days for persons made. Emergencies or not. Feeling it not, are not feeling well.

106 00:13:21.080 00:13:27.120 Rey Yap: but I appreciate I would define this as team members who stepped in

107 00:13:27.250 00:13:34.970 Rey Yap: when others are are not there to do the task, and.

108 00:13:34.970 00:13:35.580 Amber Lin: Okay.

109 00:13:35.580 00:13:36.110 Rey Yap: Yeah.

110 00:13:39.290 00:13:58.189 Amber Lin: Thank you. I have 2 more questions, and then feel free to and ask me any questions after that. Think this one is very similar to the one that I asked before. So this question is, what are you not good at, or not interested in doing professionally?

111 00:14:00.286 00:14:02.850 Rey Yap: Is it related to the role.

112 00:14:03.723 00:14:30.930 Amber Lin: No, not just in just in general, professionally. What do you think you’re not good at? Or there’s just some things that you’re not interested in doing, because I know for for my end I know that I wouldn’t be interested in doing sales, and that’s something that I don’t I would rather invest my energy in somewhere else. So it’s just like a personal preference or and self understanding as well. I just wanna see

113 00:14:30.960 00:14:34.539 Amber Lin: what you think you’re not good at, and not interested in doing.

114 00:14:37.240 00:14:40.530 Rey Yap: I would agree that definitely, not also in sales.

115 00:14:40.530 00:14:41.570 Amber Lin: Okay.

116 00:14:42.220 00:14:58.279 Rey Yap: Like it. It takes time for me to arm up even with with my peers. So I’m not usually outgoing type, but in terms of their like what I see with the role, or or or with the organization with the team.

117 00:14:58.460 00:15:08.498 Rey Yap: And I would say, seeing no, when there’s a particular

118 00:15:10.090 00:15:20.029 Rey Yap: help that is asked there with me. I I do make sure that I I ask like is it? Is it that. Can it wait? When do you need it?

119 00:15:20.561 00:15:34.630 Rey Yap: But I sometimes say no, and sometimes I do think if the appropriate answer I can’t even recall. But I I do. I do know that there are times that they should have said No in in the past.

120 00:15:35.341 00:15:42.640 Rey Yap: but, like my mindset, is always try 1st before saying no to any ideas, or even or even to help.

121 00:15:42.990 00:15:46.290 Rey Yap: But yeah, they always make sure to check first, st

122 00:15:46.290 00:15:53.940 Rey Yap: if it’s something urgent, or it’s something that that this may help. Let me checking.

123 00:15:54.690 00:16:00.590 Amber Lin: Okay, do you know, if there’s okay? So I think.

124 00:16:02.373 00:16:07.870 Amber Lin: would there be any other areas that you would also point out in regards to this question.

125 00:16:12.340 00:16:14.019 Rey Yap: I would say.

126 00:16:18.010 00:16:20.569 Rey Yap: In particular, with Project mesh, I would say.

127 00:16:21.620 00:16:25.980 Rey Yap: no, but I am. I’m I would say even I love exploring more.

128 00:16:27.527 00:16:31.940 Rey Yap: To the point that what I’m really in that I’m really

129 00:16:32.490 00:16:38.300 Rey Yap: would love to learn on like, how are your data and AI

130 00:16:38.590 00:16:41.800 Rey Yap: offerings can be applied to project management itself.

131 00:16:42.502 00:16:48.457 Rey Yap: Really sorry. Really curious on that on that part. I’ve been stopping as well.

132 00:16:49.435 00:16:56.550 Rey Yap: Okay, like they lost a day job. And they listen. Tom’s podcast and like some of the

133 00:16:57.766 00:17:04.830 Rey Yap: Interviews. So like, and studying, yeah, we’re studying for this role.

134 00:17:05.760 00:17:15.490 Rey Yap: like it just brings to my mind that, like how that data definitely can is is there? But, like how AI can, what’s out there.

135 00:17:15.490 00:17:16.280 Amber Lin: I see.

136 00:17:17.069 00:17:27.259 Amber Lin: Yeah, I have one last question, and then I would love to answer that question, because I I personally use AI in all my project management processes. Because

137 00:17:27.380 00:17:49.570 Amber Lin: AI came out when I started to do project management. And so it’s very integrated in my process and my Comp. And our company’s process. So I would love to answer that question. I just have one last question. And it is, who are your last 5 bosses? And how will they each rate your performance on a 1 to 10 scale when we talk to them?

138 00:17:49.990 00:17:51.939 Rey Yap: Sorry who are my.

139 00:17:52.570 00:18:02.129 Amber Lin: Yeah, who are your last 5 bosses? And how will they each rate your performance from one to 10? When we talk to them?

140 00:18:03.960 00:18:10.129 Rey Yap: So my last boss is so the honesty I like right now I’ve been

141 00:18:11.278 00:18:28.450 Rey Yap: removed from the team because I’ve already done seat, so I would say, my my last boss is the director, but late lately, before below 5 even because aside aside from others would say, it’s probably because

142 00:18:29.087 00:18:31.290 Rey Yap: what’s going on worldwide right now.

143 00:18:32.730 00:18:34.800 Rey Yap: Redundancy. But I would say.

144 00:18:35.235 00:18:45.630 Rey Yap: my my boss probably no longer see the value that I bring to the team. So I would rate, I would probably assume that he’d rate me below 5.

145 00:18:46.450 00:18:47.200 Amber Lin: Oh,

146 00:18:48.250 00:18:48.916 Rey Yap: Yeah, so.

147 00:18:50.650 00:19:04.799 Amber Lin: Why would they not see your value? Cause I I know from Luke that you do a really good job. Is it because you guys disagree on how projects are managed, or just because they don’t have enough headcount like that sounds that sounds like a

148 00:19:04.960 00:19:08.460 Amber Lin: like more that he’ll reach you below 5.

149 00:19:09.110 00:19:24.280 Rey Yap: Yeah, I would. Honestly, it’s it’s I. I don’t. I haven’t asked I asked. I tried to ask him, but I I we met and like just one day, and like immediately where our my access was like lost in.

150 00:19:24.280 00:19:24.630 Amber Lin: Oh!

151 00:19:24.780 00:19:26.500 Rey Yap: Remove right away so

152 00:19:28.061 00:19:41.979 Rey Yap: can’t ask that question on him on Linkedin. And it’s really because of the company need to cut cut cost, but he did to choose

153 00:19:42.230 00:19:50.270 Rey Yap: all over like the the teams in on, on in India, between the teams in the Philippines. So a lot of us are really, actively been.

154 00:19:50.270 00:19:51.030 Amber Lin: Hmm.

155 00:19:51.397 00:19:52.132 Rey Yap: Laid off

156 00:19:53.000 00:19:53.400 Amber Lin: Oh!

157 00:19:53.400 00:19:53.760 Rey Yap: And.

158 00:19:53.760 00:19:54.160 Amber Lin: Oh no!

159 00:19:54.160 00:19:55.490 Rey Yap: With the company. So

160 00:19:56.690 00:20:17.189 Rey Yap: but some of I just came to know. On the weekend that day we we had a hiring on some occasion similar also, but on their localization only. So I would say that the decision probably that I I would think that I would be rated below 5

161 00:20:17.720 00:20:22.540 Rey Yap: as compared to other candidates or

162 00:20:23.560 00:20:26.090 Rey Yap: team members on the on the similar role.

163 00:20:27.350 00:20:43.700 Amber Lin: I see I see that’s a that’s a pretty tough rating you have on yourself. But I’ll let you say what you say. I do think. Yeah, you probably perform pretty well based on Luke’s recommendation. But I’ll I’ll let you rate yourself the way you want to.

164 00:20:43.700 00:20:44.280 Rey Yap: Yeah, but that.

165 00:20:44.280 00:20:46.519 Amber Lin: The ones before. Yeah, go ahead. Sorry.

166 00:20:46.930 00:20:54.910 Rey Yap: Yeah. But yeah. But the previous boss before. Because the menu buses started this year around

167 00:20:56.140 00:21:03.939 Rey Yap: and February. But my, I would say my last, my previous boss was, I would would rate me, I would say, 9

168 00:21:04.899 00:21:09.079 Rey Yap: just based on the rating scale that he provided me.

169 00:21:09.710 00:21:17.339 Amber Lin: Oh, wow! Wait! So was it because you didn’t get it like your boss? You boss, didn’t get along that. Well.

170 00:21:17.450 00:21:20.439 Amber Lin: like that’s such a different different rating.

171 00:21:21.220 00:21:22.450 Rey Yap: I actually don’t.

172 00:21:23.490 00:21:31.830 Rey Yap: the reason why I I rated myself 5. This is because, I I actually don’t know the exact reason as well.

173 00:21:32.210 00:21:32.960 Amber Lin: Oh, I see!

174 00:21:32.960 00:21:38.280 Rey Yap: Aside from aside from like really the redundancy. So I just assume that.

175 00:21:38.280 00:21:38.690 Amber Lin: Car.

176 00:21:39.570 00:21:44.749 Rey Yap: Yeah. So I just assumed that whoever is replacing me is probably.

177 00:21:45.391 00:21:53.830 Rey Yap: He sees more about you attend me. But in the span of this year, like we haven’t talked. We only talked about twice for the whole year.

178 00:21:56.060 00:21:57.350 Rey Yap: Establish that connection.

179 00:21:57.350 00:21:57.820 Amber Lin: Thank you.

180 00:21:57.820 00:22:00.400 Rey Yap: Compared to my previous boss, who.

181 00:22:00.900 00:22:03.230 Rey Yap: I converse with on a weekly basis.

182 00:22:03.540 00:22:06.349 Amber Lin: How long have you been working with your previous boss?

183 00:22:07.140 00:22:09.890 Rey Yap: 2 years.

184 00:22:10.250 00:22:11.850 Amber Lin: Oh, okay.

185 00:22:12.430 00:22:18.929 Rey Yap: And yeah, again, I would say 9, just because of the rating scale that you provided me. And

186 00:22:19.502 00:22:25.360 Rey Yap: and with him, I think I’ve I’ve been promoted twice as well.

187 00:22:25.700 00:22:26.440 Amber Lin: Wow!

188 00:22:26.440 00:22:31.570 Rey Yap: In in 2 years. So that’s why I just humbly rate myself 9.

189 00:22:31.980 00:22:34.900 Amber Lin: Oh, I I well, I think sometimes it’s just

190 00:22:35.210 00:22:54.510 Amber Lin: some people work better together and under, maybe under the previous supervisor his vision aligned more like with your skill set. And the new director just had a different vision. And so it’s just more of a personal preference. What about the people before before these 2 bosses that you had.

191 00:22:54.960 00:23:01.000 Rey Yap: Yep, the previous plus I would say 7,

192 00:23:01.710 00:23:09.490 Rey Yap: 7, or 8 because we have only been 6 6 months. And then he actually left the company.

193 00:23:09.920 00:23:16.119 Rey Yap: So that I would say, 7 again, I just basing it on the rating scale that you provided me.

194 00:23:16.350 00:23:21.999 Rey Yap: And there are things that definitely he

195 00:23:22.250 00:23:26.170 Rey Yap: recommended me to take steps. Let’s and

196 00:23:26.940 00:23:32.028 Rey Yap: start doing which I did follow up follow through with my previous boss

197 00:23:32.900 00:23:39.420 Rey Yap: So with the 6 months I I will accomplish, I would say, of my

198 00:23:40.030 00:23:45.349 Rey Yap: okrs, I would say 70% have been achieved. So that’s why every 7.

199 00:23:45.350 00:23:46.740 Amber Lin: Oh, that’s awesome!

200 00:23:47.890 00:23:52.479 Amber Lin: Okay. You’ve been with your previous company for a long time. Right?

201 00:23:52.760 00:23:53.550 Rey Yap: Yes.

202 00:23:55.345 00:23:58.529 Amber Lin: Are you staying of Delta Center?

203 00:23:58.530 00:24:02.409 Amber Lin: Oh, I how long have you been with each.

204 00:24:03.670 00:24:07.590 Rey Yap: Dallas International for for almost 5 years and.

205 00:24:07.590 00:24:08.650 Amber Lin: Without that.

206 00:24:09.240 00:24:15.539 Rey Yap: Deltech, I think 9 9 years.

207 00:24:15.770 00:24:16.200 Amber Lin: Wow!

208 00:24:16.300 00:24:21.249 Rey Yap: Since it has, it has acquired by dell Tech. So.

209 00:24:21.540 00:24:22.910 Amber Lin: Oh, I see! I see!

210 00:24:22.910 00:24:23.830 Rey Yap: So 9 years.

211 00:24:24.240 00:24:36.417 Amber Lin: Yeah, it’s so. It’s so rough. Every time I hear my friends say like they’ve been with the company for more than 5 years, and then they just they just get laid off because the company didn’t have any

212 00:24:37.130 00:24:47.970 Amber Lin: Any capital like that happened to my friend at Sony, too, like she was working there for already, like 1315 years. And they just cut the whole team. And it’s just it’s just really tough.

213 00:24:49.020 00:24:53.580 Rey Yap: Yeah, I I anticipated it early this year after the January.

214 00:24:53.680 00:25:00.880 Rey Yap: So it’s been happening with my wife’s company as well. I I do like.

215 00:25:00.880 00:25:01.500 Amber Lin: Wow!

216 00:25:01.500 00:25:04.080 Rey Yap: I do have beard as well. So I did see it.

217 00:25:04.080 00:25:04.500 Rey Yap: I see.

218 00:25:04.500 00:25:05.340 Rey Yap: That makes so.

219 00:25:05.610 00:25:18.210 Amber Lin: Okay, at least you had to prepare. I wanted to answer your question. I know you asked about how we use AI in our in our daily work so really quickly. We recently had a whole

220 00:25:18.250 00:25:27.299 Amber Lin: Zoom AI system set up where all of our meetings are recorded, and then it’s uploaded to one of our zoom clouds, and then from there

221 00:25:27.320 00:25:49.780 Amber Lin: we can chat with this with the meeting transcripts. So actually, the transcript is shown, and then, on the side we have a little AI chat. We can ask it as ask it any questions for it to summarize notes. So one it serves as an AI note taker. 2, we can take the transcripts and ask it to say, Okay, generate

222 00:25:50.210 00:26:05.119 Amber Lin: tickets. So we use linear as our project management. So it’s generate these project management tickets. And in that interface we can say, Okay, I want this ticket. I don’t want that ticket. I need to modify this ticket. And we create that.

223 00:26:05.520 00:26:31.329 Amber Lin: So that’s really, really convenient. And currently, I know they’re developing our AI team is developing something to to help essentially Qar tickets. So cause a lot of times. It just passes my mind because I get really busy. And I forget if a ticket is not up to quality. So they’re developing something that will check the different qualities of the tickets and say, Hey, this one might need a bit more detail

224 00:26:32.295 00:26:49.299 Amber Lin: other other one that I found really really helpful recently is, we have an AI agent for each client, and so they have context to all the slack messages that been sent. All the Github code and

225 00:26:49.580 00:26:54.760 Amber Lin: any email communications and Zoom Meetings that has happened. And so

226 00:26:55.060 00:27:05.310 Amber Lin: I can ask it. Okay, what happened in the past sprint. So what happened in the past 2 weeks? And then it generates a summary in a email draft.

227 00:27:05.310 00:27:25.780 Amber Lin: And based on that, I do some quick edits. And then I can send out an update email because I usually, before it takes me about 30 min to an hour to make sure that I captured everything to make sure I have the proper formatting. If right now I have all the content. So all I need is to do some basic adjustments. So right now, it takes about like 15 min

228 00:27:25.780 00:27:37.969 Amber Lin: for me to write an update. And it really, it just makes my life a lot easier because I try to avoid that every Friday. So it’s great to have an AI to at least do the 1st draft for me.

229 00:27:38.680 00:27:39.430 Rey Yap: Nice.

230 00:27:39.800 00:27:44.400 Amber Lin: Yeah, any other questions you you have. I would love to answer it as well.

231 00:27:46.050 00:27:46.629 Rey Yap: You

232 00:27:48.770 00:28:00.620 Rey Yap: So I I Ryan, did share it with me. The role it’s the lead project manager role, or is it in general project, project, manager role?

233 00:28:01.470 00:28:03.560 Rey Yap: Or that’s open. So.

234 00:28:04.250 00:28:18.756 Amber Lin: I see. So I I think it would depend on what Utah more CEO needs because I am a project manager. I don’t think I can hire ahead of my own department.

235 00:28:19.220 00:28:41.210 Amber Lin: I’m I’m responsible for doing the 1st round, and I can help answer any questions you have about the project management department. I do need to ask my advisor on the Pmo side and also ask Utam what the specific needs are. So we do currently, we do need a another project manager. And currently

236 00:28:41.773 00:28:54.300 Amber Lin: we need someone to help design the Pmo. And for now we have an advisor from Bridgewater. So helps is helping us build the Pmo but

237 00:28:54.460 00:28:57.920 Amber Lin: I believe they would still love some help on that.

238 00:28:58.090 00:29:13.979 Amber Lin: However, I do think Udam’s wanting someone based in the Us. Preferably right next to him. He’s based in Austin, so I know he’s talking to a few people in Austin, or more of the Pmo. Like leading the Pmo. Side.

239 00:29:14.370 00:29:17.389 Amber Lin: Which position were you more interested in.

240 00:29:18.904 00:29:31.030 Rey Yap: When Ryan shared to me their profile for the lead project manager definitely something that I think I’m not fit given my experience definitely but definitely, if it

241 00:29:31.140 00:29:39.559 Rey Yap: he mentioned that there’s an opening for some tech tech lead position or project manager role, which I’m very comfortable with.

242 00:29:40.980 00:29:48.680 Amber Lin: Okay, sounds good. Would you? Would you like me to ask and Clarify that.

243 00:29:48.900 00:29:49.440 Rey Yap: Yep.

244 00:29:50.270 00:29:50.860 Amber Lin: Okay.

245 00:29:51.000 00:29:54.049 Amber Lin: Any other questions you would like to ask.

246 00:29:54.050 00:29:54.800 Rey Yap: Yeah.

247 00:29:56.455 00:30:04.729 Rey Yap: in terms of just 1 1 more question, because since we’re due at times, I also want to restrict your time as well. So like, what are the

248 00:30:05.640 00:30:09.819 Rey Yap: pain points right now? For the company

249 00:30:10.830 00:30:15.449 Rey Yap: in this role. And that’s that’s why you’re hiring like, what are they?

250 00:30:16.440 00:30:23.730 Rey Yap: pain points. And then, second, is, what’s the 5 year plan for for the company right now.

251 00:30:24.677 00:30:29.210 Amber Lin: Yeah, I think the main pain points for project management is that

252 00:30:29.330 00:30:40.429 Amber Lin: we are developing very fast. And since I Joined there has opened. There has been a lot more projects that we’ve taken on. And currently, the main pain point is that

253 00:30:40.570 00:31:05.959 Amber Lin: the founders time has to be spent on some of the projects to manage them, and hence why they hired me, and hence why, they’re trying to hire another project manager to help with that. So that’s on the Pm. Side in terms of the company. 5 Year Plan. I do believe we want to scale up. We want to increase profitability. But ultimately we’re aiming for an exit. So either it’s being acquired.

254 00:31:06.390 00:31:10.560 Amber Lin: I don’t think they want to go, Ipo, but I I do think

255 00:31:10.610 00:31:22.180 Amber Lin: that we’re looking for either Vc. Investment or being acquired. And that means we want to maintain good figures and maintain good profitability.

256 00:31:22.200 00:31:41.660 Amber Lin: work with bigger clients and make sure all of the projects for at least for the Pmo. Side. To make sure all of the clients are satisfied with our work, and we deliver on time, and have enough. Make sure that we monitor the time and energy spent on each project

257 00:31:41.830 00:31:44.989 Amber Lin: to make sure that we’re actually profitable on them.

258 00:31:46.340 00:31:48.450 Rey Yap: Yeah, thanks for answering amber.

259 00:31:50.920 00:32:15.000 Amber Lin: Yeah, thank you so much for your time. It’s it’s really enjoyable talking to you. I will get back to you soon, or I think Rico will get back to you soon. Feel free to ask any questions via email in the meantime. And I’ll remember to ask which I’m what specifically he would like to place you in for if he, if he would like to.

260 00:32:16.020 00:32:20.549 Rey Yap: Yep, thanks for your time as well, Amber. I did learn let us know from you.

261 00:32:20.920 00:32:35.152 Rey Yap: and just kudos as well to what the website shows for the company, because it it’s just not. I know it’s a data and AI company. But there’s parts in there mentioning that they’re going together

262 00:32:35.700 00:32:40.179 Rey Yap: as a team, right in terms of what? What’s direction. Now, it depends. So yeah.

263 00:32:40.830 00:32:43.500 Amber Lin: Yeah, I I’m glad to hear that.

264 00:32:43.900 00:32:48.549 Amber Lin: Alrighty. I hope you have a good night. It’s really late for you.

265 00:32:48.880 00:32:50.770 Amber Lin: Okay, bye.

266 00:32:50.770 00:32:51.970 Rey Yap: Thank you. Bye-bye.