Meeting Title: Brainforge Intro <> Joshua Michole Date: 2025-04-07 Meeting participants: Miguel De Veyra, Joshua Michole Solon
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1 00:02:40.220 ⇒ 00:02:41.389 Miguel de Veyra: Make a deal.
2 00:02:42.440 ⇒ 00:02:43.589 Miguel de Veyra: Hello, mate!
3 00:02:45.960 ⇒ 00:02:46.780 Joshua Michole Solon: You.
4 00:02:46.780 ⇒ 00:02:51.289 Miguel de Veyra: You wait. Let me just turn this camera on.
5 00:02:54.290 ⇒ 00:02:55.989 Joshua Michole Solon: Time I’ll see.
6 00:03:00.660 ⇒ 00:03:02.250 Miguel de Veyra: You go along.
7 00:03:06.030 ⇒ 00:03:08.099 Miguel de Veyra: There you go. That works.
8 00:03:10.320 ⇒ 00:03:15.049 Miguel de Veyra: Oh, so a bit of opener, though.
9 00:03:20.620 ⇒ 00:03:25.780 Miguel de Veyra: I think after you see you basically.
10 00:03:25.960 ⇒ 00:03:32.250 Miguel de Veyra: So I guess. Wait! Let me just pull up your she.
11 00:03:40.610 ⇒ 00:03:44.580 Miguel de Veyra: After autumn we brought the name terrible 1, 1 grizzly.
12 00:03:45.607 ⇒ 00:03:48.350 Joshua Michole Solon: We’ll see. Conversational AI analyst.
13 00:03:51.350 ⇒ 00:03:53.700 Miguel de Veyra: Oh, conversation data. Yeah.
14 00:03:54.420 ⇒ 00:03:56.430 Miguel de Veyra: So more on part of analytics, sir.
15 00:03:56.680 ⇒ 00:04:04.559 Joshua Michole Solon: No. Still, this, I think, still a bit the same as last time developing a chat bot, but more on dialog flow, cx
16 00:04:05.190 ⇒ 00:04:09.320 Joshua Michole Solon: pair, but it’s it’s not the same as you know.
17 00:04:10.030 ⇒ 00:04:13.360 Miguel de Veyra: Open. AI, it’s basically yeah, workflows.
18 00:04:13.700 ⇒ 00:04:17.060 Joshua Michole Solon: Yeah, so mix of automation. And AI, I think.
19 00:04:20.970 ⇒ 00:04:22.260 Miguel de Veyra: So it’s Google.
20 00:04:22.480 ⇒ 00:04:24.959 Joshua Michole Solon: Yeah, Google suite, or Google Cloud.
21 00:04:25.770 ⇒ 00:04:27.700 Miguel de Veyra: Also, you have experience in Google cloud.
22 00:04:28.030 ⇒ 00:04:29.610 Joshua Michole Solon: A bit. Yeah, with the.
23 00:04:29.610 ⇒ 00:04:33.570 Miguel de Veyra: Chatbots, because that’s where we’re fucking stuck. To be honest.
24 00:04:33.570 ⇒ 00:04:34.660 Joshua Michole Solon: Sorry. What was that?
25 00:04:34.660 ⇒ 00:04:35.986 Miguel de Veyra: Deploying Chatbots.
26 00:04:37.033 ⇒ 00:04:46.610 Joshua Michole Solon: That one not specifically on the deployment. That’s being handled by someone else. I’m more of like the design. And you know, creation of
27 00:04:46.890 ⇒ 00:04:53.579 Joshua Michole Solon: like, how conversations should flow with bots and basically training them as well.
28 00:04:54.940 ⇒ 00:04:55.650 Miguel de Veyra: Okay, so.
29 00:04:56.770 ⇒ 00:05:01.729 Joshua Michole Solon: So young intent. Classification, entity parameterization.
30 00:05:02.586 ⇒ 00:05:03.639 Joshua Michole Solon: You know.
31 00:05:03.640 ⇒ 00:05:04.020 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah.
32 00:05:04.400 ⇒ 00:05:22.864 Joshua Michole Solon: Like we receive. So basically, what what I do is I receive a bunch of messages from our customers, and I I check on them every day or no, every time I have, and then I try to analyze them like how many times you know these kinds of messages with the same meaning.
33 00:05:23.670 ⇒ 00:05:24.600 Miguel de Veyra: Partner, Classification.
34 00:05:24.600 ⇒ 00:05:33.990 Joshua Michole Solon: Yeah, they like they fall under a specific intent. And let’s say, if they, they keep on saying that I want to sell my card, and I put that in a
35 00:05:34.120 ⇒ 00:05:36.149 Joshua Michole Solon: you know intent where it says.
36 00:05:36.670 ⇒ 00:05:37.150 Miguel de Veyra: Salute.
37 00:05:37.150 ⇒ 00:05:41.699 Joshua Michole Solon: Customer wants to sell. Car. Yeah? And then I put that, as you know, one of the
38 00:05:41.920 ⇒ 00:06:02.299 Joshua Michole Solon: I I guess you could say blocks, because how dialog flow Cx works is like there’s like a big diagram, and you have to connect a bunch of I think it’s the same as voice flow before, but voice flow is more on interfacing and dialog flow. Cx. Is more on managing your yeah, basically managing your conversations through bubbles.
39 00:06:06.090 ⇒ 00:06:09.349 Miguel de Veyra: Before voice, flow, now.
40 00:06:09.820 ⇒ 00:06:17.589 Joshua Michole Solon: Yeah. But voice flow is not stuff independent, right? Like you have to connect it to a separate bot.
41 00:06:18.220 ⇒ 00:06:18.920 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
42 00:06:18.920 ⇒ 00:06:23.540 Joshua Michole Solon: Yeah. So this one, it’s all in dialogflow. Cx.
43 00:06:24.400 ⇒ 00:06:26.120 Miguel de Veyra: Llm. Provider.
44 00:06:26.574 ⇒ 00:06:35.059 Joshua Michole Solon: Actually, no, it like it has its own. I guess you would say machine or AI.
45 00:06:36.040 ⇒ 00:06:37.989 Miguel de Veyra: Okay, that makes sense. Then.
46 00:06:37.990 ⇒ 00:06:45.209 Joshua Michole Solon: But you could also, like, include generative AI into like, for example, in the responses I can have.
47 00:06:45.460 ⇒ 00:06:51.560 Joshua Michole Solon: you know, the bot. Say something generative that’s reliant on something like Gemini right?
48 00:06:52.600 ⇒ 00:07:05.850 Joshua Michole Solon: Or I could just force it like so like so if you remember, like in a in a previous role. There were like complications with people wanting like a fully scripted, but I think dialog flow. Cx. Is more suited
49 00:07:05.980 ⇒ 00:07:12.000 Joshua Michole Solon: for that kind of work, because I could structure the conversation. Flow, you know, as they are.
50 00:07:12.000 ⇒ 00:07:13.209 Miguel de Veyra: To help. Yeah.
51 00:07:13.460 ⇒ 00:07:15.009 Joshua Michole Solon: And I could also.
52 00:07:15.430 ⇒ 00:07:22.604 Joshua Michole Solon: yeah, I could also like upload knowledge base. I guess I mean they they’re they’re also like constantly updating as well, I think there’s like a new.
53 00:07:23.250 ⇒ 00:07:30.800 Joshua Michole Solon: I think they’re renaming it from dialog flow, cx. Into conversational agents. I think that’s more in line now with you know.
54 00:07:30.970 ⇒ 00:07:31.950 Miguel de Veyra: So- so it’s high.
55 00:07:31.950 ⇒ 00:07:32.370 Joshua Michole Solon: Before.
56 00:07:32.370 ⇒ 00:07:40.019 Miguel de Veyra: Are you familiar with Bland? Where there’s like conversational pathways like, Hey, here’s the start. Here’s where you diverges. Do they
57 00:07:40.020 ⇒ 00:07:42.680 Miguel de Veyra: basically resell or information.
58 00:07:43.190 ⇒ 00:08:08.200 Joshua Michole Solon: Like. That’s how that’s how everything is pre templated. I think we have, like a default, start, flow, and then I connect that with the next step of the conversation, or I could loop that to another flow like they could, like all flows, could interact with each other. They could be all interconnected, and you could also like capture or save parameters to send to. You know your database, your
59 00:08:08.500 ⇒ 00:08:11.559 Joshua Michole Solon: your panel, or whatever. So yeah.
60 00:08:12.820 ⇒ 00:08:19.299 Joshua Michole Solon: so like one of the things that I’ve helped develop. There was in like selling products.
61 00:08:19.420 ⇒ 00:08:31.100 Joshua Michole Solon: Sometimes we have buyers that will renege or, you know, not. Continue the sale with us, and we would classify that as a failed sale, but not a totally like
62 00:08:31.740 ⇒ 00:08:40.239 Joshua Michole Solon: cold case, I guess, and we would like set up a trigger or condition wherein it would fall under a recovery flow.
63 00:08:40.340 ⇒ 00:08:45.869 Joshua Michole Solon: We’re in. We have an automated text message being sent out to those customers, and then, you know.
64 00:08:45.870 ⇒ 00:08:46.320 Miguel de Veyra: So.
65 00:08:46.320 ⇒ 00:08:55.660 Joshua Michole Solon: We would say something like you know we still have your offer of this and that from last week. Are you still interested in, you know, pursuing that
66 00:08:55.820 ⇒ 00:09:03.099 Joshua Michole Solon: offer. So if they respond, then, you know, that’s already like the start of my conversational flow.
67 00:09:03.170 ⇒ 00:09:25.129 Joshua Michole Solon: we’re in. It will like try to categorize what their responses are. So if they say like the offer is too low. I would like direct it to a flow that is about, you know, pitching and a renegotiation. So if they say that, yeah, I wanna proceed. So there’s like another flow that’s more about acceptance. And then it will send a parameter to our panel.
68 00:09:25.150 ⇒ 00:09:34.879 Joshua Michole Solon: and then it will, you know, run something in the Api, or with a background, and then it will notify our live agents that you know this is an accepted sale. We need to schedule a pickup we need to schedule, you know.
69 00:09:34.880 ⇒ 00:09:35.760 Miguel de Veyra: Something. Yeah.
70 00:09:35.760 ⇒ 00:09:36.560 Joshua Michole Solon: Something like that.
71 00:09:37.520 ⇒ 00:09:43.639 Miguel de Veyra: Oh, okay, so more on, basically analytics, television and classification.
72 00:09:44.468 ⇒ 00:09:50.370 Joshua Michole Solon: Yeah, I guess so in in that sense. But they’re still like building the the flow itself.
73 00:09:50.900 ⇒ 00:09:54.339 Miguel de Veyra: Okay, let me show you something. Have you? Have you looked into anything.
74 00:09:54.340 ⇒ 00:09:58.020 Joshua Michole Solon: Yeah, I think, that’s 1
75 00:09:58.450 ⇒ 00:10:15.339 Joshua Michole Solon: the tools that I looked into where I was applying for other jobs. And they they showed me the N. 8. And I was like also this is like a mesh of automation now, and AI like it’s still like bubbling right like there’s flows that you can drag and drop. Yeah, something like that.
76 00:10:15.550 ⇒ 00:10:18.920 Miguel de Veyra: So this is basically one of our like bigger clients. Right now.
77 00:10:20.290 ⇒ 00:10:26.919 Miguel de Veyra: the conversational agent is because the way it works is there’s triggers. And then whatever you want to add it, of course.
78 00:10:28.450 ⇒ 00:10:32.010 Miguel de Veyra: and then you know the agent. And then this is basically.
79 00:10:32.310 ⇒ 00:10:34.180 Joshua Michole Solon: All without the Z period. Yeah.
80 00:10:34.180 ⇒ 00:10:40.319 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, yeah, don’t, because it’s super expensive. And then basically, here’s the analytics that we built ourselves.
81 00:10:40.460 ⇒ 00:10:44.510 Joshua Michole Solon: So based on the out, the input and the output, you grade it right.
82 00:10:44.890 ⇒ 00:10:47.910 Miguel de Veyra: And then after that, you know, we
83 00:10:48.240 ⇒ 00:10:54.380 Miguel de Veyra: send it. If it’s an error, we log it into sheets. That’s what the client wants, and then we just send it to ourselves.
84 00:10:54.690 ⇒ 00:10:55.360 Joshua Michole Solon: Yeah.
85 00:10:55.360 ⇒ 00:11:04.990 Miguel de Veyra: So it’s basically honestly, a bit. SIM simple, like the Chatbot itself is simple. But what the complicated part is is because are you? Probably not.
86 00:11:05.200 ⇒ 00:11:10.540 Miguel de Veyra: But the real data. This one is the one we use for basically visualizing everything
87 00:11:11.690 ⇒ 00:11:16.540 Miguel de Veyra: because canvas dash. I’m not sure even if it if it’s done or not yet.
88 00:11:18.140 ⇒ 00:11:19.580 Miguel de Veyra: and let me just show.
89 00:11:19.580 ⇒ 00:11:20.959 Joshua Michole Solon: So like the reporting dashboards.
90 00:11:20.960 ⇒ 00:11:21.800 Joshua Michole Solon: Yes, yeah.
91 00:11:22.140 ⇒ 00:11:33.879 Miguel de Veyra: So we have like a data engineer that works with us. So how many thumbs up? Because this is deployed in Google chat? Right? So it thumbs up, thumbs down, and then what’s the average execution time before they get to reply, and then.
92 00:11:33.880 ⇒ 00:11:34.260 Joshua Michole Solon: Yeah.
93 00:11:34.260 ⇒ 00:11:41.501 Miguel de Veyra: How many errors. So this is the the way we’re the one we’re tracking a lot. And this is all automated. We don’t. Wanna you know.
94 00:11:41.780 ⇒ 00:11:44.562 Joshua Michole Solon: Same for for us. But we’re using SQL,
95 00:11:45.350 ⇒ 00:11:55.620 Joshua Michole Solon: you know. Fancy reporting dashboard. So I got tableau, and then it would send me like reports about how many messages of this type have come in, how many you know.
96 00:11:56.050 ⇒ 00:12:00.600 Joshua Michole Solon: how many parameters have not been recorded or failed or not match.
97 00:12:01.010 ⇒ 00:12:10.940 Miguel de Veyra: Oh, yeah, actually, this is also in sequel. So one of the things we want to add is basically cause there’s like, for example, a client asks for termite shit
98 00:12:11.499 ⇒ 00:12:17.280 Miguel de Veyra: like, hey? If you have a termite problem, you know, you could also try this product. They call it upselling.
99 00:12:17.520 ⇒ 00:12:29.359 Miguel de Veyra: So that’s that’s basically we. One thing we want to track also because it’s what it’s a way for us to earn money basically is how many upsells we did right the what helped them.
100 00:12:29.690 ⇒ 00:12:32.280 Miguel de Veyra: But the thing is only some problem. Again, the details.
101 00:12:32.590 ⇒ 00:12:40.070 Miguel de Veyra: It’s not the users that are actually talking. It’s like my customer support. It’s just assisting them, basically being them a bit better.
102 00:12:41.010 ⇒ 00:12:43.749 Miguel de Veyra: So it’s it’s not really changing them right.
103 00:12:44.710 ⇒ 00:12:45.370 Joshua Michole Solon: Yeah.
104 00:12:45.370 ⇒ 00:12:51.659 Miguel de Veyra: So yeah, that’s basically it. I think it would be a good fit, especially the background you have.
105 00:12:56.000 ⇒ 00:12:56.849 Joshua Michole Solon: No nda.
106 00:12:57.010 ⇒ 00:12:58.410 Miguel de Veyra: And sample work.
107 00:12:59.300 ⇒ 00:13:04.259 Joshua Michole Solon: Yeah, company. And also, like everything is customized to their end. So I can’t really.
108 00:13:04.590 ⇒ 00:13:06.590 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, that’s fine.
109 00:13:07.220 ⇒ 00:13:11.670 Joshua Michole Solon: Like they have their own panels. They have their own website. And it’s a software using.
110 00:13:12.000 ⇒ 00:13:16.809 Miguel de Veyra: Okay. Okay? So I, honestly, we only have because there’s 2 parts of the business
111 00:13:16.940 ⇒ 00:13:32.420 Miguel de Veyra: data, which is the main part. There’s like 6 or 7 clients there that pay a lot of money like they’re all. I think they’re like tens of thousands monthly. So no, no, it’s 1 client per person.
112 00:13:33.420 ⇒ 00:13:34.390 Miguel de Veyra: So it’s good.
113 00:13:34.550 ⇒ 00:13:44.559 Miguel de Veyra: But the thing is what what we do is we also treat, because basically, Oh, Casey, and there’s another girl. See, Jana, but I don’t know if she’s still with us to be honest, but she’s on and off.
114 00:13:46.490 ⇒ 00:13:58.439 Miguel de Veyra: The thing is right. Now. I’m basically writing the technical components in charge of recruiting and everything. And then Case is basically alone in the development I tried to help out. But you know, they don’t want me to develop anymore.
115 00:13:58.870 ⇒ 00:13:59.880 Miguel de Veyra: The thing is.
116 00:14:00.070 ⇒ 00:14:11.130 Miguel de Veyra: there’s clients for for like company clients. And then there’s internal clients. So the marketing team sales team data team. We also want to build AI stuff for them. But since you know.
117 00:14:12.260 ⇒ 00:14:20.210 Miguel de Veyra: that’s why we said told me like, you know, let’s keep hiring. Let’s keep looking for people. And then Casey recommended. Hey? Why not, Josh? Right?
118 00:14:20.700 ⇒ 00:14:23.810 Miguel de Veyra: And then he told me that they’re looking for another job. So.
119 00:14:24.670 ⇒ 00:14:27.270 Joshua Michole Solon: Oh, yeah, a lot of them coming up.
120 00:14:27.740 ⇒ 00:14:29.030 Joshua Michole Solon: Rpg, on.
121 00:14:29.540 ⇒ 00:14:33.030 Miguel de Veyra: Oh, okay, okay, you play. You play game. Is that.
122 00:14:33.030 ⇒ 00:14:33.820 Joshua Michole Solon: Getty.
123 00:14:34.440 ⇒ 00:14:36.500 Miguel de Veyra: No, no! You play another Warhammer game.
124 00:14:37.168 ⇒ 00:14:38.959 Joshua Michole Solon: Space. Marines, you mean.
125 00:14:38.960 ⇒ 00:14:41.240 Miguel de Veyra: No, no. You play another one wrong trailer.
126 00:14:41.522 ⇒ 00:14:42.650 Miguel de Veyra: Rogue trader. Yeah, yeah.
127 00:14:42.650 ⇒ 00:14:48.890 Miguel de Veyra: yeah. Yeah. That one. So I was like, Oh, yeah, yeah. Why not? Let’s invite them like after work hours?
128 00:14:49.180 ⇒ 00:14:51.960 Miguel de Veyra: Oh, why not.
129 00:14:51.960 ⇒ 00:14:53.589 Joshua Michole Solon: Nagaro, trader Cayo.
130 00:14:53.590 ⇒ 00:14:58.329 Miguel de Veyra: In the space. No use that.
131 00:15:00.400 ⇒ 00:15:04.840 Joshua Michole Solon: I think twice now after, like the Dlc.
132 00:15:04.840 ⇒ 00:15:05.540 Miguel de Veyra: Which one.
133 00:15:05.690 ⇒ 00:15:10.120 Joshua Michole Solon: The void void Walkers, Dlc. Or something.
134 00:15:10.120 ⇒ 00:15:11.170 Miguel de Veyra: Oh, okay.
135 00:15:11.340 ⇒ 00:15:15.481 Joshua Michole Solon: I think there’s like an upcoming Dlc. As well. I’ll I’ll probably like replay it again.
136 00:15:15.740 ⇒ 00:15:18.939 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, I started collecting, you know. Are you familiar with this stuff?
137 00:15:19.580 ⇒ 00:15:20.500 Joshua Michole Solon: Yeah. Figurines.
138 00:15:20.500 ⇒ 00:15:24.669 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, yeah, I have like, did you paint that yourself?
139 00:15:24.670 ⇒ 00:15:26.860 Miguel de Veyra: No, no, the paintings are there. These are Joy toys.
140 00:15:26.860 ⇒ 00:15:27.540 Joshua Michole Solon: Oh!
141 00:15:28.160 ⇒ 00:15:29.240 Miguel de Veyra: I can’t show the face there.
142 00:15:29.240 ⇒ 00:15:29.640 Joshua Michole Solon: Okay.
143 00:15:29.640 ⇒ 00:15:30.850 Miguel de Veyra: There you go right.
144 00:15:30.970 ⇒ 00:15:33.119 Miguel de Veyra: This is my favorite one by far.
145 00:15:33.120 ⇒ 00:15:35.389 Joshua Michole Solon: You’re a custodians, Fan. Then.
146 00:15:35.390 ⇒ 00:15:37.519 Miguel de Veyra: I know this is Dante blood angels.
147 00:15:37.520 ⇒ 00:15:40.670 Joshua Michole Solon: Oh, okay, I thought, you know, the gold is not really clear.
148 00:15:40.670 ⇒ 00:15:41.250 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, yeah.
149 00:15:41.250 ⇒ 00:15:41.930 Joshua Michole Solon: Okay.
150 00:15:42.160 ⇒ 00:15:42.900 Miguel de Veyra: This one.
151 00:15:43.550 ⇒ 00:15:46.990 Miguel de Veyra: But yeah, I mean, I think it’s definitely a good fit
152 00:15:47.160 ⇒ 00:15:54.000 Miguel de Veyra: in terms of not to mention in terms of rate and hours, actually.
153 00:15:56.505 ⇒ 00:15:56.960 Joshua Michole Solon: Hello!
154 00:15:58.450 ⇒ 00:16:03.850 Miguel de Veyra: I’ll I’ll chat you on discord with oh.
155 00:16:15.130 ⇒ 00:16:16.670 Joshua Michole Solon: I think you already.
156 00:16:16.920 ⇒ 00:16:21.070 Miguel de Veyra: Oh, yeah, yeah, okay, just just to make sure just to make sure.
157 00:16:21.870 ⇒ 00:16:28.989 Miguel de Veyra: But yeah, I think for rate. And then we use clockify. It’s a time tracking tool.
158 00:16:29.637 ⇒ 00:16:30.500 Joshua Michole Solon: What was that?
159 00:16:30.500 ⇒ 00:16:32.270 Miguel de Veyra: Clock. If I it’s a time timing tool.
160 00:16:32.270 ⇒ 00:16:32.630 Joshua Michole Solon: Bye.
161 00:16:32.630 ⇒ 00:16:42.740 Miguel de Veyra: Though well on screen recording, because I wouldn’t do it like no one else in the company would do it. It’s just to know, basically because they’re very, they’re very like because data company, like they, they want to know where the errors are going and stuff.
162 00:16:42.740 ⇒ 00:16:45.570 Joshua Michole Solon: Time and motion studies. Yeah, before.
163 00:16:45.970 ⇒ 00:16:46.609 Miguel de Veyra: But basically.
164 00:16:46.610 ⇒ 00:16:56.889 Miguel de Veyra: what they do is Internet. Because, honestly, you don’t have to log what you did. It’s just to which client you’re working on. So they know, because the numbers came in the end right.
165 00:16:56.890 ⇒ 00:17:00.040 Joshua Michole Solon: Are? Are your working hours like flexible.
166 00:17:01.036 ⇒ 00:17:05.559 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, it’s flexible. But usually we usually work this like the way.
167 00:17:06.786 ⇒ 00:17:08.280 Joshua Michole Solon: Based today.
168 00:17:08.700 ⇒ 00:17:16.709 Miguel de Veyra: And then, you know, I tried to be on them because me and Casey, we basically every day hop on like an hour or 2 about work and shit.
169 00:17:16.890 ⇒ 00:17:20.460 Joshua Michole Solon: Oh, okay, I thought it was like a regular 9 to 5.
170 00:17:21.341 ⇒ 00:17:26.779 Miguel de Veyra: We try to be as a sync as possible, though there’s like meetings around 9 to 19 to 11.
171 00:17:27.019 ⇒ 00:17:43.069 Miguel de Veyra: But I tried to tell them. I tried to tell her now, you know, for most of the stuff I don’t think need number, so they can focus on their things, just me, and then I’ll just relay them to the team. So not 4 h, basically as a meeting total time, right? Waste of money.
172 00:17:43.620 ⇒ 00:17:44.290 Joshua Michole Solon: All right.
173 00:17:44.680 ⇒ 00:17:47.800 Miguel de Veyra: But yeah, as for the rate what are you looking for?
174 00:17:48.590 ⇒ 00:17:51.930 Joshua Michole Solon: Actually something similar to like my current role.
175 00:17:52.520 ⇒ 00:17:58.420 Joshua Michole Solon: But you know I’m I’m fine with I think the rate we had before.
176 00:17:58.900 ⇒ 00:18:04.370 Joshua Michole Solon: But currently like, if I just share it to you, my salary current salary right now, it’s also
177 00:18:04.500 ⇒ 00:18:07.160 Joshua Michole Solon: build like monthly.
178 00:18:08.085 ⇒ 00:18:11.179 Miguel de Veyra: We’re billed monthly. They use wiser.
179 00:18:11.180 ⇒ 00:18:12.690 Joshua Michole Solon: Yeah, same same as.
180 00:18:12.690 ⇒ 00:18:14.250 Miguel de Veyra: Cisco is annoying as hell, though.
181 00:18:15.321 ⇒ 00:18:26.720 Joshua Michole Solon: Well, they they use actually paypal, or if it, if not, if it’s not working, then it’s wise as well. So I think the current salary expectation would be like 7 bucks an hour.
182 00:18:28.050 ⇒ 00:18:32.810 Miguel de Veyra: Okay? Yeah. Sure. I think that works a lot in your favor. Because one guy interviewed is like
183 00:18:32.940 ⇒ 00:18:36.004 Miguel de Veyra: he was asking for 25 mate. I don’t even make that much.
184 00:18:36.240 ⇒ 00:18:36.730 Joshua Michole Solon: Yeah.
185 00:18:36.730 ⇒ 00:18:44.640 Miguel de Veyra: Me and Casey combined don’t make that much so. But yeah, I think that definitely a good point. And then working hours. I don’t think you have a problem. Anyways.
186 00:18:45.500 ⇒ 00:18:49.369 Joshua Michole Solon: Yeah, I’m I’m really. I really need to do something else.
187 00:18:49.370 ⇒ 00:19:05.769 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah. And then the the good thing is that they actually push you to be a lot technical. It’s more on the quality. And then eventually, you learn about data. We have to learn about data.
188 00:19:06.050 ⇒ 00:19:10.910 Joshua Michole Solon: Yeah, yeah, so it’s good, technically good for resuming. So yeah, I’ll recommend you definitely.
189 00:19:11.910 ⇒ 00:19:14.380 Joshua Michole Solon: okay. And then when can you start?
190 00:19:15.770 ⇒ 00:19:21.209 Joshua Michole Solon: I would say, like the the normal 2 weeks time. But I’m also like, really free.
191 00:19:21.370 ⇒ 00:19:24.359 Joshua Michole Solon: if if I’m allowed to even say that. So yeah.
192 00:19:24.620 ⇒ 00:19:26.169 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah. Yeah. Next.
193 00:19:27.170 ⇒ 00:19:32.420 Miguel de Veyra: let’s say as soon as possible. So ideally next week, if cam or if I don’t know if you celebrate holidays.
194 00:19:32.980 ⇒ 00:19:38.929 Joshua Michole Solon: I mean, yeah, if you you’d send me like the official job offer and stuff like that, I’d be.
195 00:19:38.930 ⇒ 00:19:39.250 Miguel de Veyra: For.
196 00:19:39.250 ⇒ 00:19:40.290 Joshua Michole Solon: Happy to look into it.
197 00:19:40.500 ⇒ 00:19:49.879 Miguel de Veyra: Okay, yeah. And then the way it works, I think I’m not sure if I got full time, because the way usually it works is, we hire someone part time for the first, st like month or so, just.
198 00:19:49.880 ⇒ 00:19:50.660 Joshua Michole Solon: Trial.
199 00:19:50.860 ⇒ 00:19:53.069 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, yeah, that. But of course, paid, of course.
200 00:19:53.630 ⇒ 00:19:58.170 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah. And then we’ll test it out. Casey took a week before she working full time or 2 weeks.
201 00:19:59.080 ⇒ 00:20:10.249 Miguel de Veyra: So, but yeah, I think definitely a good fit. I will convene with them after this call. And then, yeah, thanks, Josh. I will hop off now.
202 00:20:10.480 ⇒ 00:20:11.850 Miguel de Veyra: Okay, thank you.
203 00:20:11.850 ⇒ 00:20:12.389 Miguel de Veyra: Have a good one.
204 00:20:12.390 ⇒ 00:20:13.930 Joshua Michole Solon: Nice seeing you. Bye-bye.