Meeting Title: Uttam & Awaish Date: 2025-03-27 Meeting participants: Awaish Kumar, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:00:41.940 ⇒ 00:00:42.519 Awaish Kumar: Hello!
2 00:00:42.680 ⇒ 00:00:44.200 Uttam Kumaran: Hey! Wish! How are you?
3 00:00:45.070 ⇒ 00:00:46.440 Awaish Kumar: I’m good. How are you?
4 00:00:46.780 ⇒ 00:00:48.870 Uttam Kumaran: Good as life, as
5 00:00:48.870 ⇒ 00:00:51.680 Awaish Kumar: It’s only I. I will keep the
6 00:00:51.790 ⇒ 00:00:54.869 Awaish Kumar: camera off. I have a slow connection right now.
7 00:00:54.870 ⇒ 00:00:56.069 Uttam Kumaran: You’re good. No problem.
8 00:00:58.670 ⇒ 00:00:59.899 Uttam Kumaran: How’s the week going
9 00:01:01.629 ⇒ 00:01:03.269 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, is good.
10 00:01:03.840 ⇒ 00:01:05.969 Awaish Kumar: An exciting like.
11 00:01:06.350 ⇒ 00:01:13.260 Awaish Kumar: This week. I’ve worked lots of things, not just modeling. So yeah, feeling excited
12 00:01:13.540 ⇒ 00:01:33.630 Uttam Kumaran: Good. Okay, cool. Yeah. I told you things would go ramp up. I you know. I guess I wanted to start 1st by telling you that all the feedback about you has been really really great. You know I spoke with Akash. I spoke with Robert. You know I’ve spoken to some other folks in the team, and of course, you know, I’m reviewing Prs and stuff.
13 00:01:33.680 ⇒ 00:01:46.739 Uttam Kumaran: So I know that your work is good, but I think it’s really really great for me to hear that. You know everybody’s enjoying. So. Firstly, I just wanted to say, Thank you. I know it’s a. It’s not an easy company to come in and sort of ramp up, but
14 00:01:46.870 ⇒ 00:01:49.190 Uttam Kumaran: I know. And and you’ve been traveling
15 00:01:50.720 ⇒ 00:01:57.710 Uttam Kumaran: So I I really appreciate that I think it’s been. We’ve been really lucky to have you. And I’m excited hopefully to continue to
16 00:01:57.840 ⇒ 00:02:04.200 Uttam Kumaran: have you do more for us and help on some platform things. So super super happy.
17 00:02:05.760 ⇒ 00:02:08.530 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, it is also nice working with you.
18 00:02:10.530 ⇒ 00:02:16.909 Awaish Kumar: Like, I had like great feedback transparency and
19 00:02:17.320 ⇒ 00:02:22.689 Awaish Kumar: lots of good things from you. So, yeah, it is really nice being here as well
20 00:02:23.110 ⇒ 00:02:24.807 Uttam Kumaran: Great cool that makes me happy.
21 00:02:25.525 ⇒ 00:02:44.419 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. And so I wanted to. So I’m starting to run these meetings sort of from these docs. Basically, I wanna make sure that I am able to answer any questions that you have. I also want to hear Feedback like more than you know. I’ll answer, and you know I’ll answer any questions you have. But I want to start hearing feedback about
22 00:02:44.748 ⇒ 00:03:07.599 Uttam Kumaran: you to yourself, you to me, and you to the company, which I I think thanks for taking the time to sort of fill this out. Let’s just maybe we can just jump in and and sort of talk through what? What you had in terms of comments. So yeah, maybe. Do you want to just sort of like, read through things, and then we can have a discussion and sort of take on some some takeaways if we have them
23 00:03:08.600 ⇒ 00:03:15.790 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, for the like, if we take the good part like. So like past few weeks
24 00:03:16.440 ⇒ 00:03:31.530 Awaish Kumar: my, things have been really calm down. And there is like an understanding developing between the team members, which is really good, like, right now, we are working as a team
25 00:03:31.870 ⇒ 00:03:35.550 Awaish Kumar: instead of like blaming and finger pointing.
26 00:03:35.776 ⇒ 00:03:36.230 Awaish Kumar: I mean
27 00:03:36.230 ⇒ 00:03:43.159 Awaish Kumar: each other. Like, okay. Now, we are working as a team to like fix things and deliver
28 00:03:43.280 ⇒ 00:03:45.559 Awaish Kumar: stuff which which is really good.
29 00:03:46.270 ⇒ 00:03:51.340 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, like. And also communication with like Robert and the Akash
30 00:03:51.600 ⇒ 00:03:55.399 Awaish Kumar: has been great. And now, like, we are
31 00:03:56.100 ⇒ 00:04:03.211 Awaish Kumar: like like for the tickets or the priorities, like things, are getting better, and in terms of
32 00:04:04.615 ⇒ 00:04:08.270 Awaish Kumar: myself, as, as I already mentioned, I’ve I’ve been enjoying.
33 00:04:09.330 ⇒ 00:04:13.750 Awaish Kumar: I have. I’m doing modeling. But I’ve been also working with Injean and
34 00:04:14.220 ⇒ 00:04:29.570 Awaish Kumar: pair pair programming session with Sana or the or the discussion on multiple things, or like, so come like communicating with vendors and all. So it has been a like kind of full stack.
35 00:04:29.780 ⇒ 00:04:33.159 Awaish Kumar: your engineering work. So I told you
36 00:04:33.160 ⇒ 00:04:40.499 Uttam Kumaran: I told you it’d be everything. That’s what I knew, cause you told me about your background and I for me. I want to throw everybody everywhere. That’s why, like
37 00:04:40.750 ⇒ 00:04:44.289 Uttam Kumaran: I was like, Go go talk to Ghalib directly, right like
38 00:04:44.290 ⇒ 00:04:44.790 Awaish Kumar: Yeah.
39 00:04:44.790 ⇒ 00:04:59.769 Uttam Kumaran: I want everybody to see everything. I have no reason to gatekeep any of that, and so I’m glad that we can enable that, because you know how it works in a data team, they’ll be like, Oh, we need a meeting to go book this we need to wait, or I need to, and everything needs to go through me like I have no interest in that, you know.
40 00:05:09.106 ⇒ 00:05:10.609 Uttam Kumaran: Can you hear me
41 00:05:12.230 ⇒ 00:05:13.500 Awaish Kumar: Now I can do
42 00:05:13.630 ⇒ 00:05:19.419 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay, okay, yes. Okay, cool. So I, yeah, I think.
43 00:05:19.700 ⇒ 00:05:37.089 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, you mentioned so communication with business team is getting better. Yeah. So let’s talk about like, not so good. So still need help with prioritization. I agree. I think. There’s 2 pieces. You’re on the toughest 2 clients. You’re on, Javi, and you’re on Eden, both of them. We’re taking on too much work.
44 00:05:37.370 ⇒ 00:05:46.029 Uttam Kumaran: And there’s too much context switching by given that feedback to the Pm’s. I’ve given that feedback to Robert, so you’ll see some changes come in next week.
45 00:05:46.594 ⇒ 00:05:53.659 Uttam Kumaran: All that being said is you’re gonna start to get you’re gonna start to be well, more more well defined on what’s coming up.
46 00:05:54.196 ⇒ 00:05:58.240 Uttam Kumaran: And I could talk a little bit about some things on the
47 00:05:58.470 ⇒ 00:06:04.859 Uttam Kumaran: on the feedback for your side is that I think that I want to see you be more of a partner
48 00:06:05.060 ⇒ 00:06:10.810 Uttam Kumaran: with the Pm’s partner close
49 00:06:10.810 ⇒ 00:06:11.180 Awaish Kumar: You know when
50 00:06:11.180 ⇒ 00:06:18.530 Uttam Kumaran: Pm’s to set roadmap and set ticket requirements, estimation, due dates
51 00:06:18.800 ⇒ 00:06:24.560 Uttam Kumaran: right. This is something currently that Robert is handling. But Robert is the product owner. Right
52 00:06:24.560 ⇒ 00:06:25.010 Awaish Kumar: Oh!
53 00:06:25.010 ⇒ 00:06:50.370 Uttam Kumaran: So for me, I’m Akash sometimes comes to me, and it’s like, Hey, what is this ticket? This is where I want you guys and planning to sort of work closer with him on setting up what the requirements are for tickets like across the team. I think I see me, you and demalade as sort of the the core senior data group. And I want you guys to start to work closely with Pm’s to set their roadmap to tell them like, Hey, this is way too complicated.
54 00:06:50.655 ⇒ 00:07:00.529 Uttam Kumaran: But also to say, Hey, we can actually get this done quicker and sort of give them that context because they’re gonna go, present it to the client, get approval, get budget all those things right. This is where I think I
55 00:07:00.530 ⇒ 00:07:02.540 Uttam Kumaran: I want to see you do more of that.
56 00:07:02.850 ⇒ 00:07:12.509 Uttam Kumaran: becoming closer to both Amber and Akash, spending time with them to set requirements on tickets and sort of grow as a leader. There
57 00:07:14.720 ⇒ 00:07:16.030 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, okay.
58 00:07:17.790 ⇒ 00:07:26.690 Uttam Kumaran: So yeah, I think that should hopefully take some time and prioritization. Detailed context from analysts. I agree, like, I don’t think
59 00:07:27.193 ⇒ 00:07:38.819 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t think Sahana has done a great job there. I don’t think we’re doing a great job on the Javi side. There. This is where I think, like as a we need to meet more as like a platform team
60 00:07:39.250 ⇒ 00:07:40.140 Uttam Kumaran: do.
61 00:07:40.450 ⇒ 00:07:45.820 Uttam Kumaran: Streamline. How analysts and modeling work together
62 00:07:47.595 ⇒ 00:07:48.660 Awaish Kumar: Right. It’s just
63 00:07:48.660 ⇒ 00:07:54.711 Uttam Kumaran: Something that we have to do. I think this is gonna be something that between
64 00:07:57.350 ⇒ 00:08:00.920 Uttam Kumaran: awaish and demalade to decide
65 00:08:01.170 ⇒ 00:08:08.190 Uttam Kumaran: right? So I think one thing that I know I’ve been trying to do, which is set up like a platform weekly, where we can talk about some of these things.
66 00:08:09.470 ⇒ 00:08:10.270 Uttam Kumaran: But
67 00:08:10.790 ⇒ 00:08:17.029 Uttam Kumaran: I think what I’ll do is I’ll try to grab some time with the 3 of us tomorrow, where we can walk through this and decide how we want to do this.
68 00:08:17.320 ⇒ 00:08:18.430 Uttam Kumaran: because
69 00:08:18.650 ⇒ 00:08:29.909 Uttam Kumaran: certainly I wanna make sure that this process is a lot cleaner and that Pm’s can be the triage point right like. If a new piece of work comes in from the analyst, it should not go directly through you.
70 00:08:30.020 ⇒ 00:08:33.090 Uttam Kumaran: DM, should say, do we need to work on this right
71 00:08:33.520 ⇒ 00:08:44.490 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, yeah, I’ve been trying. Like, recently, Sana sent a lot of requests. And I, I take the cash to like create tickets and set up the priority so we can
72 00:08:44.490 ⇒ 00:08:45.799 Uttam Kumaran: No, you should do that.
73 00:08:50.140 ⇒ 00:08:53.900 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that’s 100. Otherwise, we’re gonna work on things that don’t matter.
74 00:08:57.240 ⇒ 00:09:02.420 Uttam Kumaran: So I think this is really the biggest thing I mean. I want to see you become more of a leader here.
75 00:09:03.312 ⇒ 00:09:06.930 Uttam Kumaran: Is there anything else on your side that, like
76 00:09:07.170 ⇒ 00:09:12.249 Uttam Kumaran: you’re interested in taking on. You’re interested in working on a direction like you want to go, that I could help
77 00:09:14.923 ⇒ 00:09:20.019 Awaish Kumar: Like, as I already mentioned, some of things like
78 00:09:20.230 ⇒ 00:09:35.397 Awaish Kumar: like we already have in terms of what the company is doing right now. As a data engineer what I could do like we I we had a document before where I I filled out some of the things for like
79 00:09:36.040 ⇒ 00:10:00.000 Awaish Kumar: creating template, like. For example, if we have a client so like Javi, we, we build a repository for them, and there’s some like code in it. Maybe I don’t know if that contract ends like we have to delay hand over all the code to them. I don’t know how it works, but like we need to keep these templates for shopify Amazon. Everything
80 00:10:00.000 ⇒ 00:10:00.820 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
81 00:10:00.820 ⇒ 00:10:04.249 Awaish Kumar: In ours on our side, so we can like
82 00:10:04.560 ⇒ 00:10:09.229 Awaish Kumar: quickly build the build these things for the new clients right
83 00:10:09.230 ⇒ 00:10:10.080 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
84 00:10:11.030 ⇒ 00:10:11.950 Awaish Kumar: One thing.
85 00:10:11.950 ⇒ 00:10:14.652 Uttam Kumaran: Info that you should go check out. Is
86 00:10:15.770 ⇒ 00:10:19.340 Uttam Kumaran: this brain forge data platform repo?
87 00:10:19.740 ⇒ 00:10:21.239 Uttam Kumaran: Have you seen it before?
88 00:10:22.330 ⇒ 00:10:22.985 Awaish Kumar: No.
89 00:10:24.930 ⇒ 00:10:26.730 Uttam Kumaran: So take a look at
90 00:10:27.380 ⇒ 00:10:28.820 Uttam Kumaran: Take a look at this.
91 00:10:31.490 ⇒ 00:10:34.040 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll send it in in slack, too.
92 00:10:35.320 ⇒ 00:10:40.589 Awaish Kumar: So yeah, like one of the things. And also and I’m not
93 00:10:40.880 ⇒ 00:10:43.630 Awaish Kumar: sure like, for the, for example, for Dbt.
94 00:10:44.320 ⇒ 00:10:49.080 Awaish Kumar: we could have a like a a place where
95 00:10:49.390 ⇒ 00:10:55.060 Awaish Kumar: all our like things which we are doing in github actions. We
96 00:10:55.486 ⇒ 00:11:08.249 Awaish Kumar: like, we can have a single single place where we run it for all the clients. But there’s 1 catch like Github when we run something in github actions right now it is free for us and or for the clients as well.
97 00:11:08.590 ⇒ 00:11:11.779 Awaish Kumar: But if we come up with something like more
98 00:11:12.381 ⇒ 00:11:23.630 Awaish Kumar: a generic solution which works for all client like maybe a machine where we run things for all the clients. Then it is the that machine is going to cost us
99 00:11:23.630 ⇒ 00:11:24.120 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
100 00:11:24.120 ⇒ 00:11:27.189 Awaish Kumar: I’m not sure which like
101 00:11:27.190 ⇒ 00:11:36.699 Uttam Kumaran: Well, this is where, like we’re running it. We’re running github actions just in one repo. Right? But I would I would prefer it to all, run in one box, and then
102 00:11:36.700 ⇒ 00:11:37.380 Awaish Kumar: Yeah.
103 00:11:37.380 ⇒ 00:11:41.779 Uttam Kumaran: We can sort of streamline the alerting, like, you know.
104 00:11:41.780 ⇒ 00:11:42.289 Awaish Kumar: Things like that
105 00:11:42.290 ⇒ 00:11:46.809 Uttam Kumaran: And then, basically, if they don’t want to use that, they need to, they need to do their own system right
106 00:11:48.160 ⇒ 00:12:00.140 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, like, that’s what I’m I’m mentioning that like, like, one way I can think of is that like we have one box where we run for everyone, or something like that, which is kind kind of unifies the
107 00:12:00.574 ⇒ 00:12:05.149 Awaish Kumar: the Github action work we are doing like we can run for. We can just
108 00:12:06.060 ⇒ 00:12:16.140 Awaish Kumar: copy, paste some code and run it for all the clients. But right now we have to keep these Github action files for every client in in a Github repository separately.
109 00:12:16.430 ⇒ 00:12:22.600 Awaish Kumar: So it kind of unifies things, but it it comes with a cost. Github actions is free
110 00:12:25.290 ⇒ 00:12:29.460 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So github actions is free. No github actions is free for like 3,000 min.
111 00:12:29.620 ⇒ 00:12:31.500 Uttam Kumaran: But then we start paying after that.
112 00:12:34.070 ⇒ 00:12:43.380 Uttam Kumaran: But I. But I think like we should run this on its own box or something and streamline it. I mean that that way. It’s a service that we basically offer that for all of our clients.
113 00:12:44.410 ⇒ 00:12:45.290 Awaish Kumar: Yeah.
114 00:12:45.290 ⇒ 00:12:49.320 Uttam Kumaran: So we can work. Let’s work on that, too. So I’ll add this as a data platform ticket.
115 00:12:51.460 ⇒ 00:13:03.219 Uttam Kumaran: So templated Dbt projects, I’m gonna add, like a Dbt runner box or something move from gh, actions. Okay?
116 00:13:04.390 ⇒ 00:13:11.071 Uttam Kumaran: So right now, you’re spending. So like, let’s also talk about. So you’re spending time on Urban. You’re spending time on
117 00:13:11.530 ⇒ 00:13:14.779 Uttam Kumaran: Davi and Eden like. How do you feel like hours? Wise
118 00:13:18.870 ⇒ 00:13:27.880 Awaish Kumar: Like like in terms of like, is it like what
119 00:13:27.880 ⇒ 00:13:33.370 Uttam Kumaran: Is it enough? Is it too much like, how do you feel like your timing
120 00:13:33.370 ⇒ 00:13:42.619 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I like, as I mentioned right now, I have haven’t joined any full time roles yet.
121 00:13:43.380 ⇒ 00:13:47.859 Awaish Kumar: so I have the capacity and the.
122 00:13:48.150 ⇒ 00:13:52.379 Awaish Kumar: So I have been. That’s why I’ve been taking lots of things as well.
123 00:13:52.560 ⇒ 00:14:02.070 Awaish Kumar: Oh, and that’s why I mentioned that. It’s like tracking is really hard with with different context, switching like.
124 00:14:02.570 ⇒ 00:14:07.910 Awaish Kumar: I’m working 5 min or something, then switch on and then switch it back. And then how how to like
125 00:14:08.040 ⇒ 00:14:10.060 Awaish Kumar: track all of that.
126 00:14:14.575 ⇒ 00:14:17.770 Awaish Kumar: yeah, if it has been a like kind of
127 00:14:18.170 ⇒ 00:14:24.220 Awaish Kumar: like, as we discussed in the beginning, like, if it could, we grow in a salaried employee
128 00:14:24.220 ⇒ 00:14:24.580 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
129 00:14:24.580 ⇒ 00:14:26.949 Awaish Kumar: That would be better. But yeah.
130 00:14:28.410 ⇒ 00:14:32.820 Uttam Kumaran: So how about this like, let’s talk about what like.
131 00:14:32.940 ⇒ 00:14:45.309 Uttam Kumaran: I guess if you can give me a sense of like what you would be looking for salary, I think, to give you a sense we kind of probably want it to be end up. Being like half your time is, goes to app goes to Javi and Eden
132 00:14:46.560 ⇒ 00:14:53.149 Uttam Kumaran: like. And then basically, I think I want to try to have you on at least one more client and then spend the rest of your time on platform work.
133 00:14:53.260 ⇒ 00:14:56.359 Uttam Kumaran: and I think we can get you to full time pretty soon.
134 00:15:06.480 ⇒ 00:15:10.510 Uttam Kumaran: Like what do you think like? I mean, I guess. Give me a sense of like I know you said you’re
135 00:15:10.610 ⇒ 00:15:13.919 Uttam Kumaran: you’re not looking for full time like, would you be open to doing full time here?
136 00:15:16.460 ⇒ 00:15:21.279 Awaish Kumar: Like. I haven’t, because, as I mentioned, like I have, I just came back from
137 00:15:21.280 ⇒ 00:15:21.720 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
138 00:15:21.720 ⇒ 00:15:26.210 Awaish Kumar: Canada, and lots of things here I have to settle down, and then
139 00:15:26.812 ⇒ 00:15:29.889 Awaish Kumar: that’s why I and I had this part-time job.
140 00:15:30.040 ⇒ 00:15:36.380 Awaish Kumar: So I I wanted to like settle things before I commit some somewhere.
141 00:15:36.590 ⇒ 00:15:44.940 Awaish Kumar: So that’s why I haven’t joined anywhere yet. So yeah, like, if this is something which we will be filtered full time
142 00:15:45.050 ⇒ 00:15:51.719 Awaish Kumar: soon. I I might not choose to go somewhere else, otherwise, like I don’t know how it goes in future.
143 00:15:52.310 ⇒ 00:15:59.532 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, I would like, I I guess I mentioned like, I think you’re extremely valuable. I wanna make. I want you to feel like
144 00:16:00.000 ⇒ 00:16:03.609 Uttam Kumaran: this is a place for you to grow your career like. I would love to try to get
145 00:16:03.720 ⇒ 00:16:07.199 Uttam Kumaran: an offer to you for a full time role as soon as we can
146 00:16:09.226 ⇒ 00:16:16.810 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, like, think for the in terms of work. I’m I’m really happy, like it’s a kind of at a place where I can.
147 00:16:17.090 ⇒ 00:16:27.440 Awaish Kumar: I can contribute, and like I can do some impactful work, contribute and growth. And I can grow
148 00:16:27.580 ⇒ 00:16:30.519 Awaish Kumar: myself like with the company as well. So
149 00:16:30.830 ⇒ 00:16:33.590 Awaish Kumar: in terms of work. I’m really happy.
150 00:16:34.493 ⇒ 00:16:40.456 Awaish Kumar: But I I’m I’m not sure of the compensation. I don’t know like what what will be your budget
151 00:16:42.090 ⇒ 00:16:50.755 Uttam Kumaran: I mean it depends on you, cause I I mean, I I think. Give me a give me a range, and then so there’s kind of 2 things. One I know we have our currently hourly rate.
152 00:16:50.990 ⇒ 00:16:51.580 Awaish Kumar: Yeah.
153 00:16:51.580 ⇒ 00:17:13.940 Uttam Kumaran: So the second piece is, by the end of Q. 2, we’re gonna start to be layering on more performance bonuses. So I think, for folks like you who are crushing it. I think you’ll find this a really really great place to work, not only money wise, but scope of work, and then also dude, I know, like you’re like me. I think you know, you want to take on hard stuff. We’ll start. We’re gonna start doing some serious AI work.
154 00:17:14.109 ⇒ 00:17:15.669 Uttam Kumaran: probably in the next few months.
155 00:17:15.990 ⇒ 00:17:23.070 Uttam Kumaran: So I don’t think you’re gonna be bored here. So for me, I think, let me know what you need to be comfortable.
156 00:17:23.220 ⇒ 00:17:27.100 Uttam Kumaran: and I’ll try to make that happen, and I’ll try to give you a timeline to make that happen.
157 00:17:31.560 ⇒ 00:17:32.339 Awaish Kumar: Oh, wow!
158 00:17:32.550 ⇒ 00:17:34.060 Awaish Kumar: Like in terms of
159 00:17:34.650 ⇒ 00:17:41.490 Awaish Kumar: like, if you’re talking like, as I already mentioned, in terms of the work, I I know that like, it’s a great
160 00:17:41.800 ⇒ 00:17:45.050 Awaish Kumar: opportunity for me to like, contribute in
161 00:17:45.330 ⇒ 00:17:50.200 Awaish Kumar: in multiple places, like modeling engineering AI or anywhere. Right?
162 00:17:50.340 ⇒ 00:17:52.260 Awaish Kumar: So am I. But in terms of
163 00:17:52.430 ⇒ 00:17:59.490 Awaish Kumar: range. As I mentioned, we have an hourly rate. And I mentioned like in the beginning as well.
164 00:17:59.660 ⇒ 00:18:02.200 Awaish Kumar: So it’s like, in between 35,
165 00:18:02.330 ⇒ 00:18:05.990 Awaish Kumar: 50, anywhere, is it? It’s okay for me.
166 00:18:06.590 ⇒ 00:18:13.859 Uttam Kumaran: So how about what? So when? What I’m gonna try to do is see if I can give, if I can give you at least some salary plus
167 00:18:14.160 ⇒ 00:18:29.599 Uttam Kumaran: an amount like I got to look. I have to go back and talk to Robert and see what we can do. But I wanna I wanna have some guarantee from you that you’re like cool. I’m down to work for you guys. For 40 HI will come back to you with like what we can do. Salary wise. I really think that, like you have
168 00:18:30.380 ⇒ 00:18:53.510 Uttam Kumaran: all the the stuff that we need to start to build a really really solid ae team like I really see you and demote as that. And you know, I wanna I wanna do my best to give you a monthly salary that fits that. And then I want to start to use your help on on helping me on the data platform, but also helping to hire helping to build up the team. And so
169 00:18:53.680 ⇒ 00:19:05.069 Uttam Kumaran: how about like? Over the next week? Let me try to come up with something that works. You mentioned 35 to 50 an hour. I’m going to scale that up to a full time salary and sort of see if I can get you an offer
170 00:19:06.700 ⇒ 00:19:07.410 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
171 00:19:08.270 ⇒ 00:19:08.930 Awaish Kumar: Sure.
172 00:19:09.190 ⇒ 00:19:09.860 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
173 00:19:10.380 ⇒ 00:19:35.239 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I I just wanna I just wanna know that like, okay, you’re you are. You’re excited. And this is something that you want to do, and I I as you know me like, I want you to contribute wherever you think you can, and wherever is is fun and exciting for you to do. Of course there’s the day to day work, but I can see that you. You’ve you can tackle that pretty easily. So I want to start to be able to leverage your time as much to help grow our team and grow our platform.
174 00:19:35.410 ⇒ 00:19:42.969 Uttam Kumaran: You know, we’re gonna hire more analytics engineers. I want you to be involved in the hiring process there, and sort of work work at a higher level with me.
175 00:19:43.600 ⇒ 00:19:44.130 Awaish Kumar: Perfect.
176 00:19:44.130 ⇒ 00:19:53.180 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll do. We’re not. We’re not like, you know. We don’t. We’re a small company still, so I’ll do my best. But I think what you’ll find over time is that we’re gonna pay the best people
177 00:19:53.310 ⇒ 00:20:00.659 Uttam Kumaran: as like quite a bit of money to keep them happy and to keep them motivated. And so you sort of have my trust there that
178 00:20:00.800 ⇒ 00:20:09.639 Uttam Kumaran: the best, the better, the faster we can work on projects, the more money should accumulate to the best people. So I think you’ll you’ll find it a rewarding place to work
179 00:20:12.323 ⇒ 00:20:21.040 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, thank you so much. Yeah, I agree with you, like you the things you mentioned about in terms of work. Wise? Yeah.
180 00:20:21.180 ⇒ 00:20:27.589 Awaish Kumar: I completely agree. And I see that there’s a lot of opportunity to work on
181 00:20:28.160 ⇒ 00:20:29.899 Awaish Kumar: from every space. So yeah.
182 00:20:30.150 ⇒ 00:20:32.130 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, cool.
183 00:20:32.893 ⇒ 00:20:36.139 Uttam Kumaran: Any other things to discuss today? Then
184 00:20:38.560 ⇒ 00:20:41.100 Awaish Kumar: Come no like
185 00:20:44.540 ⇒ 00:20:47.470 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, perfect. So I think, yeah, go ahead.
186 00:20:47.470 ⇒ 00:20:53.180 Awaish Kumar: Like in terms of I don’t know, like, in terms of like those things we discussed in the retro. I don’t know how it
187 00:20:54.030 ⇒ 00:20:55.739 Awaish Kumar: like about the
188 00:20:57.060 ⇒ 00:21:04.700 Awaish Kumar: like vacation policy for the self hourly employees and other and others that like how it went.
189 00:21:06.070 ⇒ 00:21:06.640 Awaish Kumar: Yeah.
190 00:21:06.640 ⇒ 00:21:08.696 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So I’m still working on it.
191 00:21:09.490 ⇒ 00:21:18.920 Uttam Kumaran: I’m probably like 50% of the way through. For now the anything in terms of out of office. You just mention it to your Pm. Directly.
192 00:21:19.550 ⇒ 00:21:24.930 Uttam Kumaran: And then we’re working on the process. I need probably need another week to sort of finalize that
193 00:21:26.130 ⇒ 00:21:27.830 Awaish Kumar: Okay. Yeah. Thanks.
194 00:21:28.550 ⇒ 00:21:34.089 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. But again, like we’re flexible, I would just say, try to let them know in advance.
195 00:21:34.518 ⇒ 00:21:36.509 Uttam Kumaran: But take as much time as you need
196 00:21:39.520 ⇒ 00:21:41.049 Awaish Kumar: Okay, sure. Thank you.
197 00:21:41.790 ⇒ 00:21:46.950 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. Alright. Thank you. Wish. And then, yeah, I’ll slack you and just let me know if you need any help today.
198 00:21:48.566 ⇒ 00:21:49.460 Awaish Kumar: Okay, sure.
199 00:21:49.460 ⇒ 00:21:51.499 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Thank you talk soon.
200 00:21:51.790 ⇒ 00:21:52.890 Awaish Kumar: But