Meeting Title: Brainforge x Schwartzberg Law Firm | AI Court Reporting Solutions Date: 2025-03-13 Meeting participants: Robert Tseng, Connor Fenn, Daniel Saltus
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1 00:00:53.320 ⇒ 00:00:54.006 Connor Fenn: Hey, Daniel.
2 00:00:55.460 ⇒ 00:01:09.819 Daniel Saltus: Oh, just give me 1 min here I apologize. I forgot to diary this so I’ve been a mess for the last couple of weeks here have been straight out. My whole family’s been sick and stuff. So let me just I’m in the car.
3 00:01:09.820 ⇒ 00:01:10.990 Connor Fenn: Reschedule, or.
4 00:01:10.990 ⇒ 00:01:19.210 Daniel Saltus: No, no, no! I just want you to bear with me for another 60 or so seconds, and then I will be able to get into my office and close the door, and we can talk. Okay.
5 00:01:19.410 ⇒ 00:01:20.539 Connor Fenn: Yeah, I gotcha.
6 00:01:20.810 ⇒ 00:01:21.185 Daniel Saltus: Alright!
7 00:01:56.900 ⇒ 00:01:57.760 Robert Tseng: Hey, guys.
8 00:02:03.750 ⇒ 00:02:10.190 Connor Fenn: Hey, Robert! He was just running. Wait and run inside so he could hop on the call with us. He’s just.
9 00:03:03.590 ⇒ 00:03:04.555 Daniel Saltus: Alright!
10 00:03:05.770 ⇒ 00:03:06.550 Connor Fenn: Hey!
11 00:03:08.720 ⇒ 00:03:09.779 Daniel Saltus: Going on today.
12 00:03:10.180 ⇒ 00:03:11.250 Robert Tseng: Hey, Daniel.
13 00:03:13.660 ⇒ 00:03:14.539 Connor Fenn: How are you?
14 00:03:14.540 ⇒ 00:03:16.740 Daniel Saltus: Oh, hanging in there today! How about yourself?
15 00:03:16.740 ⇒ 00:03:19.120 Connor Fenn: Doing. Well, I’m glad we could connect.
16 00:03:19.280 ⇒ 00:03:24.489 Daniel Saltus: Yeah, absolutely, Connor. I appreciate your putting up with my little delay here. And same to you, Robert. I appreciate that.
17 00:03:25.010 ⇒ 00:03:36.659 Connor Fenn: Yeah, no worries, no worries. So from my understanding, you’re just looking to get more information about us. What we do, some record retrieval. AI powered court reporting that kind of stuff.
18 00:03:36.660 ⇒ 00:03:41.689 Daniel Saltus: Yeah, so I had just gotten kind of like a a cold call email, or I don’t know if that’s.
19 00:03:41.690 ⇒ 00:03:42.030 Connor Fenn: Yeah.
20 00:03:42.030 ⇒ 00:03:52.799 Daniel Saltus: Or what you call, I guess a cold email from what it sounds like is the CEO I don’t know if that was an automated thing, or or how he found my information, which is a separate thing I’m kind of curious about, but.
21 00:03:52.800 ⇒ 00:04:19.340 Connor Fenn: Yeah. So actually, I’ll backtrack for you real quick. Sorry. Caught me off guard, everybody meeting card and starting late I am. Sales lead for Brainforge. We actually have Robert on the line. He’s 1 of the co-founders. couldn’t make it today. He was the emailing you. But we have Robert on. He can kind of go through some of the details with you. But yeah, I was just trying to get a bigger picture of kind of what you’re interested in and.
22 00:04:20.029 ⇒ 00:04:25.797 Daniel Saltus: Yeah. So it’s it seemed like, and I’d have to look back. Hold on and see if it’s if it’s here with
23 00:04:30.119 ⇒ 00:04:48.379 Daniel Saltus: Yeah. The medical record analysis, record, retrieval those are. And then court reporting. Possibly we have a court report that we work with, but you know, not married to anything, especially if the cost is going to be significantly different. But the the medical parts of it are probably the most interesting.
24 00:04:50.080 ⇒ 00:04:54.970 Connor Fenn: What particularly is interesting to you like. What? What are you looking to try to get out of it?
25 00:04:55.430 ⇒ 00:05:18.670 Daniel Saltus: Yeah. So the retrieval of records, which is, you know, as I’m sure you’ve had other plans. Attorneys complain to you, or defense, or whoever that, trying to get records from medical offices of pain. Their 3rd party vendors don’t like to deal with the High Tech Act which you know, is supposed to get us records for 6 50 either on a disk or a flash drive, or a dropbox, or what some other electronic means
26 00:05:19.075 ⇒ 00:05:27.274 Daniel Saltus: and so that that’s you know, it’s a a time slot can be way more expensive than it’s supposed to be under the prevailing Federal law.
27 00:05:27.990 ⇒ 00:05:34.420 Daniel Saltus: so that that’s 1 item, and then the second item would be if there was an easy way
28 00:05:34.600 ⇒ 00:05:39.890 Daniel Saltus: to get a review of records. You know, 300 page hospital record comes in.
29 00:05:39.990 ⇒ 00:05:45.350 Daniel Saltus: you know. Can you get, you know, like, is there an AI tool or something that would work to get that
30 00:05:46.049 ⇒ 00:05:50.760 Daniel Saltus: reviewed and the highlights of either diagnosis or
31 00:05:51.460 ⇒ 00:05:52.400 Daniel Saltus: You know.
32 00:05:52.990 ⇒ 00:06:13.550 Daniel Saltus: if, for example, if you’re looking at a Med Mal case, and there’s like elevated levels that are done in Labs on page, you know, 212, and it only appears there once, and in general review. You might, you know, gloss over that. But the, you know, if the tools have the ability to try to analyze those things, or you know that that all would be useful as well.
33 00:06:14.420 ⇒ 00:06:19.170 Robert Tseng: Got it a couple of questions. When we would kind of backtrack back to the record retrieval piece.
34 00:06:19.170 ⇒ 00:06:19.560 Daniel Saltus: Yeah, yeah.
35 00:06:19.560 ⇒ 00:06:30.400 Robert Tseng: I didn’t really quite catch like, what was the pricing structure that you didn’t like before. Like my understanding is, you know, most of the folks out there are charging, you know, volume based flat fee pricing and you know, I think we’re
36 00:06:30.590 ⇒ 00:06:41.869 Robert Tseng: you know you you kind of mentioned. You’re you’re already getting kind of like this kind of like like as an asset for you. And you’re not really paying per page charges. So I’m just trying to get an understanding of like, what? What?
37 00:06:42.310 ⇒ 00:06:42.930 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
38 00:06:42.930 ⇒ 00:07:09.603 Daniel Saltus: Unfortunately, we’re not really taking full advantage of the Federal law. The Federal law says it’s supposed to be flat. Fee 6, 50. You get either a disk or a flash drive, or whatever but that the providers often don’t follow the law, or they’re really their 3rd party. Vendors don’t follow the law, and they still charge the per page. And I know you have to like. Make your request the right way, you know, referencing the the act and this and that
39 00:07:10.390 ⇒ 00:07:25.620 Daniel Saltus: But we had tried to work with a different company to request records of this sort, and in this way and then, inevitably, we were getting that same per page charge plus our 3rd party vendor charge on top of it. So ended up being more expensive.
40 00:07:26.110 ⇒ 00:07:41.809 Daniel Saltus: And it didn’t really save that much time, because we ended up having to communicate with them frequently about, you know. Oh, do you authorize us to to pay the extra charge, or do you authorize us to, you know? Make a complaint to you know the Department of Health, or whatever it would be right.
41 00:07:42.180 ⇒ 00:07:46.889 Daniel Saltus: And so it just wasn’t efficient as it as we were hoping.
42 00:07:47.810 ⇒ 00:07:54.220 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I guess, like typical turnaround time. Or did you feel like there was like, what? What’s what? What were you saying? There.
43 00:07:54.502 ⇒ 00:08:08.070 Daniel Saltus: Holy. This also, it’s gonna be total guesswork. Because we worked with them on one case and then decided it wasn’t working and I’m trying to remember it was turnaround time to from saying, you know, get this record from this doctor to actually getting. It
44 00:08:08.280 ⇒ 00:08:17.360 Daniel Saltus: was probably like between a month, and and 2 or a month, and like 10 weeks, maybe.
45 00:08:19.110 ⇒ 00:08:21.009 Robert Tseng: Well, yeah, that’s that’s long for sure.
46 00:08:21.010 ⇒ 00:08:24.990 Daniel Saltus: Yeah, it was slow, and and with the the same expense. So yeah.
47 00:08:24.990 ⇒ 00:08:25.620 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
48 00:08:25.700 ⇒ 00:08:48.100 Robert Tseng: okay, no, it’s good to know, I think. Yeah, I think the other piece is the medical record analysis and kind of you’re asking about what? What AI tools kind of out there? Just to give some context like, yeah, Brainforge is a data and AI vacation services company. So, yeah, we kind of we, we pick the waiting horse and we just implement it. And we know the AI tools are constantly changing.
49 00:08:48.376 ⇒ 00:09:02.513 Robert Tseng: You know, I think even the tools that we were using 2 years ago or not necessarily the same ones we’re using today. And so I, I feel like with the legal in the legal space we found like a good niche, and we’ve worked with some of the big kind of
50 00:09:03.040 ⇒ 00:09:32.300 Robert Tseng: record retrieval, and like other soft legal software companies like magnet legal services. That might be how I got your contact. And because I saw that you had worked with them before. And yeah, I think just like from there we’re we’re we’re trying to go directly working with attorneys like yourself to better understand like, Hey, can we like adapt some of the tools that we’ve used? And we’ve seen at bigger scale with these, like legal tech companies and kind of kind of customized it. So for for folks like you.
51 00:09:32.340 ⇒ 00:09:43.070 Robert Tseng: and so like Harvey, AI is like a pretty prominent like legal focused AI model and platform right now. Have you? Have you heard of that before?
52 00:09:43.070 ⇒ 00:09:46.900 Daniel Saltus: Actually, I haven’t. I was gonna Google it while we’re talking, or after we’re talking either way.
53 00:09:47.240 ⇒ 00:10:13.620 Robert Tseng: Yeah, well, I mean, their their focus is really is really good, like, well, from what I’ve heard, yeah, just like drafting all variations of legal documents. And then they’ve really been focusing on like due diligence, like document review now. And so we can kind of give you a few different like examples. But you know we would love to be able to explore like, Hey, taking, picking a solution, and be able to run that with you on, on whatever kind of like.
54 00:10:13.620 ⇒ 00:10:17.192 Daniel Saltus: Records that we we want. We want to be analyzing.
55 00:10:18.120 ⇒ 00:10:27.990 Robert Tseng: Yeah. And I think, like, my biggest question of medical record stuff is, is it really? Is it purely text? Do you think, or is it also image? Because I think that would? That’d probably be a big difference for us.
56 00:10:27.990 ⇒ 00:10:48.600 Daniel Saltus: Yeah, I mean, for the most part, they’re text, you know. Sometimes it’s presented in a chart form, you know, it’s like with those like the the normal blood readings, and then the measured blood readings, or whatever it is right. But that still is text. You know. You still get calcium. Normal range is 2 to 8, and this patient was 1.1, or whatever
57 00:10:49.430 ⇒ 00:10:56.120 Daniel Saltus: you know, just to pull something out of there. So it’s mostly text. There might be some like
58 00:10:56.260 ⇒ 00:11:01.059 Daniel Saltus: Ekg or other diagnostic tools that are shown in that way.
59 00:11:01.170 ⇒ 00:11:04.960 Daniel Saltus: But, generally speaking, it’s just. It’s purely text based.
60 00:11:05.290 ⇒ 00:11:30.729 Robert Tseng: Got it. Okay? Yeah. Well, I mean, we’re regarding like health data like on the on the data side, we work with a bunch of health companies there. And so as far as like getting kind of clearance on hipaa compliance and all that like, we know how to handle kind of pia data. Well, and so, yeah, I think, like to kind of explore an opportunity with you. We pretty much. Probably we could send over like a sample, like kind of scope of work, of what we think would be like a
61 00:11:31.130 ⇒ 00:11:46.080 Robert Tseng: like, a yeah, just like a demo that we could put together. And then we can. We can try to see if we can get a document. That’s you know. Obviously, we strip out anything from it, and we can just run it through a model and and see if you like the results. And that would be a good way for us to
62 00:11:46.190 ⇒ 00:11:53.670 Robert Tseng: yeah. Just evaluate whether or not. You I mean for you to evaluate on whether or not you like to, what we, what we can put together.
63 00:11:53.790 ⇒ 00:12:03.812 Daniel Saltus: Understood. Yeah. And that certainly. That sounds like, you know, a good starting point, right? Like, you know, take a record that we have. We haven’t looked at yet, or whatever, and and see if we can get some
64 00:12:04.490 ⇒ 00:12:11.240 Daniel Saltus: some feedback, or, you know an analysis of it definitely that you know. I don’t know how else we would go other than you know. Start with one, so to speak.
65 00:12:11.810 ⇒ 00:12:28.589 Robert Tseng: Yeah, totally. Okay. Well, then, I guess I’m just curious. Like, I I saw from like the email exchanges. And we also talked about like we do workflow optimization like, that’s probably our bread and butter. Because we we run. We run a lot of different tools internally. You know, even like.
66 00:12:29.080 ⇒ 00:12:38.289 Robert Tseng: yeah, from from drafting our emails. And yes, like the email that was that went to you was like something that we had our tool draft. And we’re kind of just edit it. So
67 00:12:38.690 ⇒ 00:13:01.390 Robert Tseng: built out a lot of cool AI automation tools internally for workflows that we like to kind of just chat with potential prospects as well on like, whether or not that’s something that’s interesting for them. So curious. For, like your business overall like, are there certain types of workflows that you’re keen on like that you find are too time consuming. Or you’ve thought about, hey? What if I can automate this or yeah, just want to explore that as well.
68 00:13:01.680 ⇒ 00:13:27.141 Daniel Saltus: Yeah, so certainly. There are opportunities to to have those, you know, document creation or or sort of completion. There’s a lot of forms that we have to fill out like there’s a judges have created a series of questions that they have made into any plaintiff, and in personal injury case has to submit or has to answer these questions. Right? So a lot of it’s really basic.
69 00:13:27.890 ⇒ 00:13:29.790 Daniel Saltus: we have to go through.
70 00:13:30.643 ⇒ 00:13:36.239 Daniel Saltus: the, you know, like name, date of birth, other things like that. Pardon me for 1 min. That was a call that I that I have to take.
71 00:13:36.240 ⇒ 00:13:37.980 Robert Tseng: Yeah, yeah.
72 00:15:34.690 ⇒ 00:15:36.320 Daniel Saltus: Alright. Thanks for waiting on me there.
73 00:15:36.610 ⇒ 00:15:37.540 Robert Tseng: Hey! Norris!
74 00:15:39.060 ⇒ 00:15:40.486 Daniel Saltus: Alright. So
75 00:15:41.580 ⇒ 00:15:59.869 Daniel Saltus: the optimizations and the workflows so like that discovery stuff, or like initial claim, like, we have form letters. So it’s just basically punching in like the new date of incident and the recipient. And the, you know, if there’s a claim number of an insurance company, or whatever like those things don’t take a long time, but those seem to be the simplest things to automate.
76 00:16:00.410 ⇒ 00:16:01.160 Daniel Saltus: You know, once
77 00:16:01.870 ⇒ 00:16:09.170 Daniel Saltus: completed, the information in your intake, or whatever. I’m sure that the AI system could just pump out those types of letters, you know, in a heartbeat.
78 00:16:09.670 ⇒ 00:16:18.399 Robert Tseng: Totally, I may ask, like, what? How much volume does like an intake do you get? Or kind of like, what? What’s your main like kind of a client. Acquisition, kind of motion.
79 00:16:18.963 ⇒ 00:16:29.909 Daniel Saltus: So well in terms of volume that’s hard to say. We have something in the range of 150 to 200 open cases right now. Like 98% of them are plaintiffs, personal injury cases.
80 00:16:31.300 ⇒ 00:16:36.189 Daniel Saltus: and acquisitions almost always on an attorney referral basis.
81 00:16:36.560 ⇒ 00:16:37.230 Robert Tseng: Okay.
82 00:16:37.850 ⇒ 00:16:38.840 Daniel Saltus: So
83 00:16:39.258 ⇒ 00:16:47.009 Daniel Saltus: we’re in Connecticut and in New York. So we’ve kind of been able to leverage that with, you know, New York attorneys who need somebody in Connecticut or the opposite.
84 00:16:47.640 ⇒ 00:16:52.060 Robert Tseng: Oh, okay, cool. Yeah. I saw that you’re based in Connecticut. But yeah, I’m I’m in New York. So.
85 00:16:52.060 ⇒ 00:16:57.450 Daniel Saltus: Okay, so that has, that’s sort of like how we get the cases. And then,
86 00:16:58.740 ⇒ 00:17:01.660 Daniel Saltus: you know, it’s right. Now, it’s all just, you know.
87 00:17:01.820 ⇒ 00:17:12.170 Daniel Saltus: hours, either paralegal or attorney hours to to do all the claims and and all those letters, and you know initial letter to the client. Make sure you go to the doctor and all that sort of good stuff, you know.
88 00:17:13.609 ⇒ 00:17:26.349 Daniel Saltus: There’s certainly be a significant savings there. The more complicated the work is. I don’t know. I would have to see what the capability of of any system is to create that content. That’s a little more substantive in nature.
89 00:17:27.060 ⇒ 00:17:55.279 Robert Tseng: Yeah, yeah, so definitely, I mean, we, we run AI tools from like lead generation. And just like being able to fill our pipeline for specific people that we’re trying to target. So we have a big, outbound kind of motion that goes. And then from there we do everything from like drafting emails, kind of kind of pulling in other kind of doing lead research as well. So we’re able to like learn more kind of gather contacts from other data sources. We bring that in. And so we yeah, I think definitely at that.
90 00:17:55.280 ⇒ 00:18:05.020 Robert Tseng: what what you’re describing and the response responding to intake. I think there’s a lot of cool stuff that we probably demo for you. Maybe next time if we get a chat in our next chat.
91 00:18:05.812 ⇒ 00:18:11.619 Robert Tseng: But yeah, so let me just kind of set some targets for, like what we should come back to you with. So
92 00:18:11.720 ⇒ 00:18:36.340 Robert Tseng: one is, yeah, we want to send you kind of just like a sample, one pager like scope of work of like. What would it look like for us to do this like discovery demo of like, Hey, we get some documents from you, and then we would be able to give you like a like a showing of like what the AI capability currently is and then, you know, I think, with some of the workflow things that we mentioned like happy to demo a couple of internal workflow tools that we
93 00:18:36.340 ⇒ 00:18:45.779 Robert Tseng: that we use. And that just be a good way for you to understand what like, how good, or the capability is currently and then
94 00:18:45.780 ⇒ 00:18:50.700 Robert Tseng: I think, yeah, if we can just kind of get some clarity on.
95 00:18:50.770 ⇒ 00:19:03.289 Robert Tseng: yeah, maybe some of the internal systems that you use. So we know, like, what’s the best way to surface things to you like, we can build custom apps, or we can just plug into things that you already use. So I just want to better understand, like, what? What would that end up looking like.
96 00:19:03.290 ⇒ 00:19:12.029 Daniel Saltus: Yes, so I I can tell you. We there’s a case management system that we’re in the in the process of. We use Cleo right now, which is the case management system for much more general
97 00:19:12.180 ⇒ 00:19:28.239 Daniel Saltus: law practices. We have found one called Cloud Lex. Actually funny enough. There’s a rep, who’s who’s based in New York City? So it might make sense to introduce the 2 of you. But he so that. But they do plaintiffs. Pi focused case management.
98 00:19:28.320 ⇒ 00:19:56.110 Daniel Saltus: so certain elements that we want and certain elements that we don’t want in Cleo that we can’t get rid of, like, you know don’t exist. So if it’s a lot better point being, we’re transitioning to that. So we will. Happily, you know. See, if there’s some integration that you guys could could work with them. But we’re not on board with them yet. You know what I mean. So it’s like they’re they’re in the process of doing a sample of moving our files over and cases over from Cleo to make sure that we’re satisfied with how that’s going.
99 00:19:56.460 ⇒ 00:20:10.729 Robert Tseng: Okay, no, that’s that’s great. Great piece of information for us, definitely as you’re going through transition of like moving stuff over already. That’s a great time for us if we ended up working together to like, be able to just tack on to that. So that prevents you from having to like.
100 00:20:11.110 ⇒ 00:20:13.604 Robert Tseng: do it multiple times, you know.
101 00:20:14.610 ⇒ 00:20:36.300 Robert Tseng: Yeah. And then I guess maybe just to better assess, like, kind of your intent, like, it seems like you’re open, and you’re kind of you have a lot of ideas that you’re thinking through. But like what you you meant you mentioned you already made a big switch you got off of that previous record. Retrieval provider seems like cost and transparency was like a big issue for you. But yeah, I guess like, kind of what would be.
102 00:20:36.550 ⇒ 00:20:46.940 Robert Tseng: yeah, what? What would be important for you as like a as from like a buyer perspective like if you were to find a solution that solve your problem like what would really move the needle for you.
103 00:20:47.240 ⇒ 00:21:06.510 Daniel Saltus: Yeah. So the the 2 biggest hate to use these sort of like cliched phrases. But pain points right that we have. One is getting the records, and 2 is completing discovery with our clients right like getting full, complete, and and good answers to
104 00:21:06.630 ⇒ 00:21:22.960 Daniel Saltus: you know, how does this injury affect your day to day life, or what parts of your body hurt, or what? How many doctors did you see? Oh, I forgot about Dr. Jones, or whatever so to be able to to get that done in a in a simpler way. Now, of course you can’t.
105 00:21:23.480 ⇒ 00:21:26.798 Daniel Saltus: You know human error, or you know clients who suck
106 00:21:27.130 ⇒ 00:21:27.450 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
107 00:21:27.450 ⇒ 00:21:32.250 Daniel Saltus: Right, but that those 2 things would be the key.
108 00:21:32.560 ⇒ 00:21:36.620 Daniel Saltus: you know, if you had some some way of
109 00:21:36.730 ⇒ 00:21:48.930 Daniel Saltus: smoothing that and speeding that up. That would I mean a I’d be astounded. But be that that would be something where I would, you know, that would be really meaningful to us.
110 00:21:49.320 ⇒ 00:22:08.930 Robert Tseng: Yeah. Alright. I guess my last question would be, is it important to you that you keep a human in the loop in this. You want to make sure that you have someone on your team who’s just like kind of being that like client facing piece? Or can this be like an AI agent, completely like a Chatbot kind of like interaction. That you’d be open to as well.
111 00:22:09.487 ⇒ 00:22:16.739 Daniel Saltus: So for later parts of a representation like filling out that discovery response.
112 00:22:16.820 ⇒ 00:22:43.519 Daniel Saltus: No, I don’t think there’d be a problem, I think, at the early stage, right like client meeting or intake. I’m sure there’s an AI tool that could do a client intake. You know our 9 page intake sheet. It could figure out a way to do that with a client with ease. But then you’re you’re missing the face to face right so early on. I think you have to sit with the client, and you know, meet them and and look them in the eye. But I think, after you know, if you said to them, look, we use these tools. They’re really helpful.
113 00:22:43.820 ⇒ 00:22:51.640 Daniel Saltus: And you can, you know, we’re gonna work through this to to do some of the stuff to make it easier for you and for us.
114 00:22:51.680 ⇒ 00:22:54.379 Daniel Saltus: Most people would be receptive to that. I think.
115 00:22:54.730 ⇒ 00:22:56.633 Robert Tseng: Yeah, okay, no, that’s
116 00:22:57.110 ⇒ 00:22:59.589 Daniel Saltus: Need a person involved at at the later stage.
117 00:22:59.970 ⇒ 00:23:00.710 Robert Tseng: Got it.
118 00:23:01.350 ⇒ 00:23:16.960 Robert Tseng: Alright. Yeah, I mean, that’s all the questions I have for now. So we have some homework to kind of put together some stuff. I guess email seems like to be the best way to reach you. Or I guess you have any other questions or kind of what what if we can? What if we could follow up with you? Maybe in like a week or 2? Would that would that work for you?
119 00:23:16.960 ⇒ 00:23:19.645 Daniel Saltus: Yeah, that’s nice. So we’re gonna be away for a week.
120 00:23:19.890 ⇒ 00:23:20.500 Robert Tseng: Okay.
121 00:23:20.500 ⇒ 00:23:30.879 Daniel Saltus: Cool vacation next week. So we’re we’re heading out of town. But if so I would say that what is the week starting the 20 second, maybe 24.th
122 00:23:31.387 ⇒ 00:23:45.829 Daniel Saltus: That that week we’ll be back in action. So that week would be the best to to reach back out phone is okay, emails. Okay, emails easier just because it sits there. As you can see, I even had to interrupt us to take a phone call. So it’s, you know, sometimes difficult.
123 00:23:46.980 ⇒ 00:23:56.170 Robert Tseng: Okay, cool. Yeah. If you have. If you have any other questions, just feel free to shoot us an email as well. And and if not, we’ll we’ll look forward to chatting again, I guess. On the week of 24.th
124 00:23:56.170 ⇒ 00:24:07.999 Daniel Saltus: Alright perfect. And yeah, so anything you you want to send us as proposal or scope of work. However, you describe it, that’s fine. And then. So my my wife is my law partner, and so she and I can talk about it once once you get that in our hands. Alright.
125 00:24:08.630 ⇒ 00:24:10.060 Robert Tseng: Cool thanks. Daniel.
126 00:24:10.060 ⇒ 00:24:13.759 Daniel Saltus: Alright, Robert, thank you so much for a few minutes today, and apologies again for for being late here.
127 00:24:14.080 ⇒ 00:24:15.380 Robert Tseng: All good take care.
128 00:24:15.380 ⇒ 00:24:16.800 Daniel Saltus: Alright! Take care, guys have a good one.