Meeting Title: AI Team Weekly Planning_2024-12-16T18:41:22Z Date: 2024-12-16 Meeting participants: Mariane Cequina, Uttam Kumaran, Miguel De Veyra, Casie Aviles
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1 00:00:32.110 ⇒ 00:00:33.360 Miguel de Veyra: Yo yo.
2 00:00:35.800 ⇒ 00:00:36.709 Casie Aviles: Hello! Hello!
3 00:00:37.760 ⇒ 00:00:40.960 Miguel de Veyra: Should probably speak in English.
4 00:00:41.070 ⇒ 00:00:44.360 Miguel de Veyra: We can trace. We can add, trace loop now, right? If it’s there.
5 00:00:45.350 ⇒ 00:00:46.343 Casie Aviles: Oh, Nathan,
6 00:00:48.190 ⇒ 00:00:52.900 Casie Aviles: And then we could use traceloop hub, which is like their proxy thing.
7 00:00:53.870 ⇒ 00:00:56.260 Casie Aviles: But hey, you Dom.
8 00:00:56.530 ⇒ 00:00:57.020 Miguel de Veyra: And.
9 00:00:58.430 ⇒ 00:01:02.320 Uttam Kumaran: Thanks. Sorry for the delay. We just getting a lot of stuff done today.
10 00:01:20.280 ⇒ 00:01:27.480 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so let me do one thing, I’m just gonna get the board up. And I’m gonna also get the template up.
11 00:01:29.450 ⇒ 00:01:36.550 Uttam Kumaran: And today, I mainly just want to go through all open items and just make sure that basically.
12 00:01:37.010 ⇒ 00:01:39.439 Uttam Kumaran: anything that needs to be done is in
13 00:01:41.313 ⇒ 00:01:45.080 Uttam Kumaran: we have ready. So give me one second. We’ll get set up.
14 00:01:46.416 ⇒ 00:01:47.670 Uttam Kumaran: Hold on.
15 00:04:03.890 ⇒ 00:04:04.810 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
16 00:04:10.220 ⇒ 00:04:15.909 Uttam Kumaran: So this is the AI board. Couple of things that we’re gonna do
17 00:04:18.731 ⇒ 00:04:22.259 Uttam Kumaran: this week is just go through all these tickets.
18 00:04:22.747 ⇒ 00:04:28.470 Uttam Kumaran: Make sure that they have a proper assignee. They have all the requirements they’re associated with the client.
19 00:04:29.187 ⇒ 00:04:32.110 Uttam Kumaran: They’re here, and then also priority
20 00:04:33.950 ⇒ 00:04:38.719 Uttam Kumaran: and then also when they’re due. So the biggest thing. Let me just clean up a couple of things.
21 00:04:38.920 ⇒ 00:04:41.780 Uttam Kumaran: Some of these are requirements gathering.
22 00:04:42.010 ⇒ 00:04:49.070 Uttam Kumaran: So I know what we did on the on. We did some work on here are the all the different task types, basically
23 00:04:49.260 ⇒ 00:04:51.830 Uttam Kumaran: that we’re going to do. So I’m just gonna copy this
24 00:04:52.810 ⇒ 00:04:54.869 Uttam Kumaran: down here so we can see them
25 00:04:58.910 ⇒ 00:05:06.400 Uttam Kumaran: and make sure that one. All of these have task types. So let’s start 1st with Hpi lease abstracts.
26 00:05:07.890 ⇒ 00:05:11.066 Uttam Kumaran: This one. I’m going to mark as
27 00:05:14.390 ⇒ 00:05:17.280 Uttam Kumaran: Not started. Well, I’m gonna mark as
28 00:05:19.190 ⇒ 00:05:19.940 Miguel de Veyra: Backlog.
29 00:05:21.090 ⇒ 00:05:24.770 Uttam Kumaran: Well, I’m just gonna can I change this to.
30 00:05:24.770 ⇒ 00:05:26.250 Miguel de Veyra: Isn’t it just block.
31 00:05:27.370 ⇒ 00:05:31.949 Uttam Kumaran: It’s yeah, technically. Well, I could do the requirements. But
32 00:05:33.080 ⇒ 00:05:38.629 Uttam Kumaran: I’m just gonna delete it. We’re not gonna do this right now. Okay, that solves a lot of problems.
33 00:05:38.880 ⇒ 00:05:41.804 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, let’s talk about
34 00:05:42.750 ⇒ 00:05:47.259 Uttam Kumaran: buy the cocoa work riding. This is a great one. I think this is gonna be Miguel, right?
35 00:05:49.210 ⇒ 00:05:51.970 Uttam Kumaran: So one thing I want to do is a new AI ticket.
36 00:05:54.719 ⇒ 00:06:00.029 Uttam Kumaran: This one is a I’m gonna say, high priority.
37 00:06:01.180 ⇒ 00:06:01.930 Uttam Kumaran: This.
38 00:06:02.210 ⇒ 00:06:10.200 Uttam Kumaran: And this is is this gonna be really to figure out like proxies? Or are you already done with this, Miguel? Like we kind of already said, like we’re not. It’s not possible.
39 00:06:12.000 ⇒ 00:06:15.159 Uttam Kumaran: Or or is this? Is this the? Is this the stuff for Walmart?
40 00:06:15.760 ⇒ 00:06:18.780 Miguel de Veyra: No, the voitococo workaround is the budgeting
41 00:06:20.910 ⇒ 00:06:25.390 Miguel de Veyra: because it is working, but it’s, kinda you know, up and down
42 00:06:26.240 ⇒ 00:06:41.460 Miguel de Veyra: like it’s not really as accurate, because sometimes we will I. Most of the time we will need those start stuff. So the last conversation we had here was the budget of basically Eddie, and by the coco on how we’ll move from there.
43 00:06:41.910 ⇒ 00:06:45.090 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so what? What like this is.
44 00:06:45.470 ⇒ 00:06:48.640 Uttam Kumaran: what what task type? Do you think this was like.
45 00:06:49.740 ⇒ 00:06:54.030 Miguel de Veyra: I think this is under evaluation, right?
46 00:06:54.870 ⇒ 00:06:55.500 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
47 00:07:32.020 ⇒ 00:07:34.359 Miguel de Veyra: Let me actually find that email.
48 00:09:27.430 ⇒ 00:09:32.099 Uttam Kumaran: Do you want to fit? Do you wanna go ahead and and finish that later, Miguel? Or what do you think.
49 00:09:32.100 ⇒ 00:09:35.560 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, let’s let’s finish it later. Just so we could, you know, go over everything.
50 00:09:36.720 ⇒ 00:09:39.920 Miguel de Veyra: I think if we do this for every single one. It’s gonna take a while.
51 00:09:40.250 ⇒ 00:09:40.810 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
52 00:09:41.820 ⇒ 00:09:44.965 Miguel de Veyra: Oh, by the way, just a quick, you know. Note
53 00:09:45.660 ⇒ 00:09:48.770 Miguel de Veyra: I just saw it now. But Sophie did invite like
54 00:09:50.680 ⇒ 00:09:54.020 Miguel de Veyra: browser based, you know, Slack Channel, I added. You there.
55 00:09:54.720 ⇒ 00:09:55.450 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, nice. Okay.
56 00:09:58.290 ⇒ 00:10:03.260 Miguel de Veyra: I did tell her, you know. Well, I I will circle back to her. We’ll just working on some stuff today.
57 00:10:03.950 ⇒ 00:10:06.689 Uttam Kumaran: So can you add here the cost breakdown.
58 00:10:07.973 ⇒ 00:10:13.329 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, yeah, sure, she actually sent like an image of that. I also forwarded to you. But yeah, I’ll add it. There.
59 00:10:14.170 ⇒ 00:10:18.020 Uttam Kumaran: Thanks, and I’m going to mark this as in review.
60 00:10:22.970 ⇒ 00:10:25.180 Uttam Kumaran: And then I also want to change.
61 00:10:26.560 ⇒ 00:10:31.800 Uttam Kumaran: So, Marianne, I want to move blocked to in progress here.
62 00:10:31.980 ⇒ 00:10:32.919 Uttam Kumaran: Is that okay?
63 00:10:35.730 ⇒ 00:10:36.760 Mariane Cequina: Yeah, sure.
64 00:10:46.330 ⇒ 00:10:47.110 Uttam Kumaran: Perfect.
65 00:10:49.380 ⇒ 00:10:55.291 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great. These are all
66 00:10:57.660 ⇒ 00:11:02.260 Uttam Kumaran: basically requirements. So I’m gonna take this on.
67 00:11:04.780 ⇒ 00:11:09.470 Uttam Kumaran: So this is gonna be requirements from data.
68 00:11:10.540 ⇒ 00:11:13.550 Uttam Kumaran: So basically, these will turn into tickets.
69 00:11:14.370 ⇒ 00:11:23.049 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m going to make sure that these are all finished by the end of this week.
70 00:11:29.102 ⇒ 00:11:30.629 Miguel de Veyra: This is most probably.
71 00:11:30.630 ⇒ 00:11:33.330 Uttam Kumaran: This is like a spike. Have you guys heard of spike tickets before.
72 00:11:33.330 ⇒ 00:11:34.520 Miguel de Veyra: No, not.
73 00:11:35.210 ⇒ 00:11:37.370 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’ll show you. So spike
74 00:11:49.928 ⇒ 00:11:52.080 Uttam Kumaran: spike ticket is like
75 00:11:52.210 ⇒ 00:12:02.940 Uttam Kumaran: type of user story. To gain the knowledge, to reduce the risk of a technical approach. Better understand requirement or increase the reliability of the story estimate. Basically, spike is like.
76 00:12:03.140 ⇒ 00:12:07.969 Uttam Kumaran: okay, we don’t like, we know, something needs to happen here. We don’t know exactly what it is.
77 00:12:08.420 ⇒ 00:12:10.860 Uttam Kumaran: Just do a spike, and then come back with tickets.
78 00:12:10.960 ⇒ 00:12:12.390 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s what a spike is.
79 00:12:14.120 ⇒ 00:12:15.050 Uttam Kumaran: So typically.
80 00:12:15.050 ⇒ 00:12:16.430 Miguel de Veyra: Environment, scheduling.
81 00:12:16.430 ⇒ 00:12:20.069 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Spike might be like, Hey, go check out, for example.
82 00:12:20.520 ⇒ 00:12:30.279 Uttam Kumaran: a spike for Casey, maybe. Hey, go check out, flow wise, or hey, go check out Gemini, and how it works and like where we can use it right? This is more of like.
83 00:12:30.280 ⇒ 00:12:30.880 Miguel de Veyra: Indeed.
84 00:12:31.280 ⇒ 00:12:40.020 Uttam Kumaran: It’s kind of R&D, but see R&D, it can be a ticket, too, like R&D can be diagnosed these things and come back with results. But let’s say you’re like, Hey.
85 00:12:40.160 ⇒ 00:12:42.069 Uttam Kumaran: i? 1 of the tasks is like,
86 00:12:43.560 ⇒ 00:12:53.019 Uttam Kumaran: go integrate the Gemini ocr Api, and then you may be like, Okay, I don’t know how long that’s gonna take. So before I go estimate, I need to go research.
87 00:12:53.580 ⇒ 00:13:04.199 Uttam Kumaran: Api come back with the team with, like, okay, I googled it. I did some research. Basically, it’s this, isn’t. This probably should add an extra hour of work. That’s basically it.
88 00:13:05.750 ⇒ 00:13:06.430 Miguel de Veyra: Okay.
89 00:13:08.870 ⇒ 00:13:10.502 Uttam Kumaran: Everybody’s. We’re all learning.
90 00:13:11.320 ⇒ 00:13:12.400 Miguel de Veyra: New fix.
91 00:13:12.960 ⇒ 00:13:22.959 Uttam Kumaran: Yes, you’re getting the project management version of me today. So cool. This is a spike. I’m gonna take this spike on.
92 00:13:25.570 ⇒ 00:13:28.920 Uttam Kumaran: I know we are. Basically, I know you’ve already done a lot of work.
93 00:13:29.702 ⇒ 00:13:32.779 Uttam Kumaran: Ai call with the content team.
94 00:13:34.050 ⇒ 00:13:39.559 Uttam Kumaran: So this one, too, I think we have a lot ready. I’m actually gonna book a meeting between me, Ryan.
95 00:13:40.040 ⇒ 00:13:51.129 Uttam Kumaran: I’m I’ll just bring everybody in AI into a meeting because I want Ryan to go through his process. I think, Miguel, you probably already went through with him, but I would like to see it so that I just have some context.
96 00:13:53.640 ⇒ 00:13:57.049 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, like the only thing I that was clear out of that meeting was
97 00:13:57.160 ⇒ 00:14:01.299 Miguel de Veyra: basically some sort of he needs some sort of Qa
98 00:14:01.480 ⇒ 00:14:04.990 Miguel de Veyra: that acts like you before. He, you know, approves the blog.
99 00:14:04.990 ⇒ 00:14:05.800 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
100 00:14:06.990 ⇒ 00:14:07.850 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
101 00:14:13.190 ⇒ 00:14:20.129 Uttam Kumaran: Great AI call with Pm team. So this one, we probably need some more work on.
102 00:14:20.130 ⇒ 00:14:20.980 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah.
103 00:14:21.460 ⇒ 00:14:22.070 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
104 00:14:22.940 ⇒ 00:14:27.789 Miguel de Veyra: I think, for this one. We were discussing something like
105 00:14:28.400 ⇒ 00:14:31.549 Miguel de Veyra: alternative to what did you guys use for? Stand up, please.
106 00:14:32.230 ⇒ 00:14:36.370 Miguel de Veyra: We wanted to create like an internal tool for that. At least, that’s what I discussed with Nico.
107 00:14:38.610 ⇒ 00:14:40.260 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. So we’ll do.
108 00:14:40.260 ⇒ 00:14:41.780 Miguel de Veyra: So we don’t have to pay anything.
109 00:15:07.050 ⇒ 00:15:09.980 Uttam Kumaran: Content. Brain. This is probably.
110 00:15:10.280 ⇒ 00:15:15.010 Miguel de Veyra: Who was Ryan’s, I’m not sure, actually, with specifically.
111 00:15:15.010 ⇒ 00:15:15.589 Uttam Kumaran: Delete it.
112 00:15:15.590 ⇒ 00:15:19.490 Miguel de Veyra: It’s probably, you know, part of the what do you call this.
113 00:15:19.750 ⇒ 00:15:23.949 Uttam Kumaran: Sunday I call with me. I can call myself and figure this out.
114 00:15:26.020 ⇒ 00:15:30.000 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, Zoom Meeting summarizer. This is where we probably need more requirements. Right.
115 00:15:32.280 ⇒ 00:15:39.890 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, I haven’t really worked on this as much. So I’m not really that. Sure not.
116 00:15:53.370 ⇒ 00:15:56.140 Miguel de Veyra: Can there be more than one task type or not?
117 00:15:56.630 ⇒ 00:15:58.670 Uttam Kumaran: No just one task type. Well.
118 00:15:58.670 ⇒ 00:15:59.220 Miguel de Veyra: Oh!
119 00:15:59.590 ⇒ 00:16:03.050 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yeah, just we’re gonna just do one.
120 00:16:03.240 ⇒ 00:16:06.840 Uttam Kumaran: This is so this is the status and then task type.
121 00:16:07.050 ⇒ 00:16:09.150 Uttam Kumaran: This is going to be an agent. Basically.
122 00:16:09.830 ⇒ 00:16:10.660 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, yeah.
123 00:16:11.220 ⇒ 00:16:14.992 Uttam Kumaran: So this is gonna be new agent development. Or, yeah.
124 00:16:15.980 ⇒ 00:16:22.810 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna do new agent development, because I want to also wrap. Take all the work that Casey did basically like formalize it all into here.
125 00:16:24.550 ⇒ 00:16:30.330 Uttam Kumaran: Cause we kind of just ran fast on that. So new agent development perfect.
126 00:16:30.740 ⇒ 00:16:35.920 Uttam Kumaran: I will get the requirements for this dude.
127 00:16:44.000 ⇒ 00:16:46.710 Uttam Kumaran: Can I clear the dates out or no?
128 00:16:54.790 ⇒ 00:16:55.490 Uttam Kumaran: I hope
129 00:17:04.569 ⇒ 00:17:09.110 Uttam Kumaran: AI agent evals. Okay, this is one I want to talk about today.
130 00:17:16.270 ⇒ 00:17:21.730 Uttam Kumaran: Nope, how do I get back to the template
131 00:17:29.380 ⇒ 00:17:32.230 Uttam Kumaran: Marianne? Do you know how I can add a template here.
132 00:17:34.270 ⇒ 00:17:35.610 Mariane Cequina: Can you try? Can you try?
133 00:17:35.610 ⇒ 00:17:37.310 Mariane Cequina: Oh, I got it. I got it. Okay.
134 00:17:37.310 ⇒ 00:17:38.530 Miguel de Veyra: How did you guys do it?
135 00:17:38.910 ⇒ 00:17:41.510 Uttam Kumaran: I just well, if I just backspaced.
136 00:17:43.340 ⇒ 00:17:44.560 Miguel de Veyra: Oh, okay. Okay.
137 00:17:46.000 ⇒ 00:17:47.290 Uttam Kumaran: Great, perfect.
138 00:17:50.680 ⇒ 00:17:52.479 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so the goal here.
139 00:17:54.900 ⇒ 00:18:05.340 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna put Miguel and Casey on here. The goal is, all agents need to have observability
140 00:18:07.670 ⇒ 00:18:18.730 Uttam Kumaran: into cost traces and the ability to add evals.
141 00:18:19.900 ⇒ 00:18:21.879 Uttam Kumaran: What does this task solve?
142 00:18:25.020 ⇒ 00:18:38.490 Uttam Kumaran: This task allows us to build more resilient agents, resilient agents, and
143 00:18:38.640 ⇒ 00:18:47.679 Uttam Kumaran: get a sense. For where we need to add improvements, why is this important?
144 00:18:51.090 ⇒ 00:19:00.670 Uttam Kumaran: At the moment? We have tons of agents running, but no cohesive way of
145 00:19:01.280 ⇒ 00:19:13.870 Uttam Kumaran: understanding whether they are all working, whether they need improvements, whether
146 00:19:15.030 ⇒ 00:19:26.310 Uttam Kumaran: whether a cohesive way of understanding, whether they’re working or the improvements, how much is each being used
147 00:19:29.680 ⇒ 00:19:32.579 Uttam Kumaran: and how we can.
148 00:19:33.090 ⇒ 00:19:39.224 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think that’s fine to the goals. So one is
149 00:19:41.270 ⇒ 00:19:48.500 Uttam Kumaran: need to select a tool or a platform to allow us to
150 00:19:49.950 ⇒ 00:19:59.660 Uttam Kumaran: add this functionality to all agents. We develop internally and externally.
151 00:20:02.640 ⇒ 00:20:04.390 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay.
152 00:20:17.630 ⇒ 00:20:19.529 Uttam Kumaran: there’s no dependencies.
153 00:20:21.980 ⇒ 00:20:23.829 Uttam Kumaran: Are there any inputs like.
154 00:20:23.830 ⇒ 00:20:24.330 Miguel de Veyra: No worries.
155 00:20:24.330 ⇒ 00:20:29.160 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, I don’t think really there’s any inputs workflows.
156 00:20:29.290 ⇒ 00:20:32.470 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s talk about workflows, though.
157 00:20:33.300 ⇒ 00:20:41.130 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah. So we’re actually, we started, Casey did the amazing job on migrating the lead research agent.
158 00:20:41.790 ⇒ 00:20:45.469 Miguel de Veyra: I think from that PC, we can start implementing, trace loop now.
159 00:20:50.720 ⇒ 00:20:52.489 Miguel de Veyra: So for workflow.
160 00:20:56.370 ⇒ 00:20:58.829 Miguel de Veyra: wait, what specifically do we need to add here.
161 00:20:59.700 ⇒ 00:21:06.030 Uttam Kumaran: This is basically like, is there any workflows that will be impacted like, should we write? N, 8, n.
162 00:21:06.330 ⇒ 00:21:07.330 Uttam Kumaran: I am relevance.
163 00:21:07.330 ⇒ 00:21:10.899 Miguel de Veyra: So we’re basically migrating from relevance for the store to anytime.
164 00:21:11.410 ⇒ 00:21:12.610 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so
165 00:21:19.000 ⇒ 00:21:20.440 Uttam Kumaran: anything else.
166 00:21:22.313 ⇒ 00:21:25.089 Miguel de Veyra: I think, for now. Yeah, that’s it. We should. We’ll just add it.
167 00:21:25.590 ⇒ 00:21:28.160 Uttam Kumaran: I think also, we should just have a python requirement.
168 00:21:28.610 ⇒ 00:21:29.100 Miguel de Veyra: Python.
169 00:21:29.100 ⇒ 00:21:30.980 Uttam Kumaran: Like it needs to work with python.
170 00:21:31.650 ⇒ 00:21:36.460 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, it has to work with it with Apis, basically, either Python or Js
171 00:21:45.970 ⇒ 00:21:47.920 Miguel de Veyra: tools or Api is needed.
172 00:21:48.220 ⇒ 00:21:51.870 Miguel de Veyra: We can just add an 8 and trace loop, map.
173 00:21:53.440 ⇒ 00:21:59.470 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Well, okay, so let’s let’s talk about validation. And we’ll talk about some what options we have. So validation requirements.
174 00:22:02.510 ⇒ 00:22:16.150 Uttam Kumaran: need to be able to see all agents running need to see cost per run.
175 00:22:16.560 ⇒ 00:22:21.090 Uttam Kumaran: in which Apis were hit and duration.
176 00:22:22.070 ⇒ 00:22:23.029 Miguel de Veyra: Then, of course.
177 00:22:23.430 ⇒ 00:22:36.570 Uttam Kumaran: Add evals, ability to add or run through evals, ability to export this data.
178 00:22:46.200 ⇒ 00:22:47.260 Uttam Kumaran: What else.
179 00:22:48.138 ⇒ 00:22:50.019 Miguel de Veyra: I think, for now that’s it. Yeah.
180 00:22:50.230 ⇒ 00:22:53.650 Miguel de Veyra: But is it validation, requirements and deliverables? The same thing.
181 00:22:55.331 ⇒ 00:22:58.440 Uttam Kumaran: No validation. Requirements is like.
182 00:22:59.100 ⇒ 00:23:01.360 Uttam Kumaran: how do you make sure the deliverable is right?
183 00:23:02.170 ⇒ 00:23:03.050 Miguel de Veyra: Okay. Okay.
184 00:23:03.690 ⇒ 00:23:08.920 Uttam Kumaran: Right? So the deliverable is basically gonna be a recommendation.
185 00:23:19.300 ⇒ 00:23:20.090 Miguel de Veyra: Okay. Yeah.
186 00:23:20.930 ⇒ 00:23:21.850 Uttam Kumaran: Right cause.
187 00:23:22.140 ⇒ 00:23:31.479 Uttam Kumaran: That’s basically what I want to see is that you guys are cool. This is the platform. We need to use additional notes. So platforms to test, we have trace loop.
188 00:23:33.070 ⇒ 00:23:36.839 Uttam Kumaran: I also want you guys to try test out this called Braintrust dot dev.
189 00:23:37.190 ⇒ 00:23:47.264 Uttam Kumaran: I talked to a friend on Saturday who does AI for content and video. And he said, he said, These guys are really really good, said they have really great
190 00:23:47.770 ⇒ 00:23:49.947 Uttam Kumaran: team. And he said. He said,
191 00:23:52.280 ⇒ 00:23:54.960 Uttam Kumaran: he’s pretty sure that Openai is using these guys.
192 00:23:55.410 ⇒ 00:23:57.070 Miguel de Veyra: Okay, yeah, we can do it.
193 00:23:58.450 ⇒ 00:24:04.879 Uttam Kumaran: So can you guys take a look at trace loop and and these guys.
194 00:24:09.030 ⇒ 00:24:15.939 Miguel de Veyra: Utah. By the way, I have a question, for example, do for updates, for example, do we add it in comments, or how does it work.
195 00:24:16.821 ⇒ 00:24:18.230 Uttam Kumaran: For updates to this ticket.
196 00:24:18.230 ⇒ 00:24:18.969 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, yeah.
197 00:24:20.060 ⇒ 00:24:21.909 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that’s a good question.
198 00:24:23.920 ⇒ 00:24:25.889 Miguel de Veyra: You should just do it on comments.
199 00:24:26.370 ⇒ 00:24:27.070 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
200 00:24:27.890 ⇒ 00:24:29.320 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, I think that’s the best way to do it.
201 00:24:29.320 ⇒ 00:24:33.390 Uttam Kumaran: I would add it to comments, or you can add your like findings at the bottom here.
202 00:24:34.160 ⇒ 00:24:35.689 Uttam Kumaran: But comments is fine.
203 00:24:37.760 ⇒ 00:24:38.380 Miguel de Veyra: Okay.
204 00:24:41.241 ⇒ 00:24:42.700 Uttam Kumaran: So we have trace, loop.
205 00:24:46.080 ⇒ 00:24:48.610 Uttam Kumaran: brain, trust. What else? What else is there.
206 00:24:50.100 ⇒ 00:24:50.890 Casie Aviles: Arise!
207 00:24:52.020 ⇒ 00:24:53.340 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yeah. Rise.
208 00:25:00.050 ⇒ 00:25:03.050 Miguel de Veyra: And I think there’s 2 more tickets you need to add after this.
209 00:25:03.620 ⇒ 00:25:04.390 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
210 00:25:05.167 ⇒ 00:25:07.729 Miguel de Veyra: It’s basically the one for roar.
211 00:25:08.320 ⇒ 00:25:11.590 Miguel de Veyra: It’s the same with Browser based still. But you know.
212 00:25:12.420 ⇒ 00:25:15.725 Uttam Kumaran: So let’s finish this one up. Is there any? Are there any other
213 00:25:20.850 ⇒ 00:25:23.020 Miguel de Veyra: Are there any else we want to do?
214 00:25:23.020 ⇒ 00:25:24.229 Miguel de Veyra: No, I think that is done.
215 00:25:32.770 ⇒ 00:25:33.670 Uttam Kumaran: Hmm.
216 00:25:38.010 ⇒ 00:25:44.789 Miguel de Veyra: Do we wanna like add them daily updates for each ticket? Or is it necessary or not? Daily.
217 00:25:45.190 ⇒ 00:25:53.200 Uttam Kumaran: No, we will, I mean, basically we will. We’ll run some process like, I’ll probably just ask people about ticket status
218 00:25:53.580 ⇒ 00:25:57.859 Uttam Kumaran: in the channel, and then, if I think we can meet every day, I don’t mind meeting every day.
219 00:25:57.860 ⇒ 00:25:58.650 Miguel de Veyra: Okay. Yeah.
220 00:25:58.650 ⇒ 00:26:02.659 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t want it to be so much like pressure that, like everything, needs an update every day, though.
221 00:26:03.130 ⇒ 00:26:03.730 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah.
222 00:26:50.770 ⇒ 00:26:53.850 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, there are a couple of other tools.
223 00:28:01.450 ⇒ 00:28:03.549 Uttam Kumaran: Dude, there’s so many. Oh, my God.
224 00:28:04.830 ⇒ 00:28:07.269 Miguel de Veyra: Oh, by the way, Utop, we can only see notion.
225 00:28:07.650 ⇒ 00:28:09.210 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. I’m just
226 00:28:09.620 ⇒ 00:28:14.020 Uttam Kumaran: trying to get all all the ones I see easy here.
227 00:28:14.340 ⇒ 00:28:16.460 Uttam Kumaran: But there are a lot to try
228 00:28:21.150 ⇒ 00:28:25.059 Uttam Kumaran: And we also tried Helico and stuff like that right? And that that wasn’t great.
229 00:28:26.440 ⇒ 00:28:26.740 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah.
230 00:28:26.740 ⇒ 00:28:27.350 Casie Aviles: Fine.
231 00:28:30.170 ⇒ 00:28:33.152 Miguel de Veyra: I’m just gonna put some here.
232 00:28:34.130 ⇒ 00:28:39.530 Uttam Kumaran: Just Google, just Google, all them.
233 00:28:40.740 ⇒ 00:28:41.390 Miguel de Veyra: Okay.
234 00:28:45.590 ⇒ 00:28:49.719 Uttam Kumaran: Or some of them. I just wanna make sure we go with the right person.
235 00:28:52.200 ⇒ 00:28:55.690 Uttam Kumaran: So there’s kind of the key criteria.
236 00:28:57.430 ⇒ 00:29:03.109 Uttam Kumaran: One ease of use by our team.
237 00:29:03.790 ⇒ 00:29:05.630 Uttam Kumaran: 2 integrations.
238 00:29:06.890 ⇒ 00:29:08.140 Miguel de Veyra: Lost. The yeah.
239 00:29:08.300 ⇒ 00:29:09.090 Miguel de Veyra: Cost
240 00:29:12.620 ⇒ 00:29:13.740 Miguel de Veyra: web support. Yeah.
241 00:29:25.320 ⇒ 00:29:27.250 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, perfect.
242 00:29:29.040 ⇒ 00:29:33.180 Uttam Kumaran: Do you guys both want to take this, or I would rather assign it to one person.
243 00:29:33.470 ⇒ 00:29:39.279 Miguel de Veyra: But I don’t know. Maybe both, maybe because this is gonna be something that works for our team longer term.
244 00:29:39.280 ⇒ 00:29:42.330 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, I think everyone should know this, at least on the AI side.
245 00:29:42.740 ⇒ 00:29:45.459 Uttam Kumaran: Do we want to set a due date at like
246 00:29:45.630 ⇒ 00:29:48.430 Uttam Kumaran: end of next? I mean, basically of this week.
247 00:29:52.780 ⇒ 00:29:56.569 Uttam Kumaran: We could also send it so that we could do it at like the middle of the week. We get back.
248 00:29:57.940 ⇒ 00:30:01.929 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, because I thought, 2324, 25. No one’s gonna be there
249 00:30:02.500 ⇒ 00:30:06.489 Miguel de Veyra: until first, st no one’s gonna be there. 30, 31 and one.
250 00:30:08.180 ⇒ 00:30:09.220 Uttam Kumaran: The 3.rd
251 00:30:09.540 ⇒ 00:30:10.370 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, yeah.
252 00:30:13.450 ⇒ 00:30:14.100 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
253 00:30:17.960 ⇒ 00:30:18.890 Miguel de Veyra: Okay, yeah.
254 00:30:19.300 ⇒ 00:30:20.870 Miguel de Veyra: Client is internally.
255 00:30:21.690 ⇒ 00:30:24.509 Uttam Kumaran: Okay? And then, yeah, we want to talk about roar. Right?
256 00:30:24.720 ⇒ 00:30:25.310 Miguel de Veyra: Yep.
257 00:30:26.620 ⇒ 00:30:27.804 Uttam Kumaran: So this was like,
258 00:30:29.310 ⇒ 00:30:32.600 Uttam Kumaran: This is about scraping Walmart and.
259 00:30:32.600 ⇒ 00:30:33.389 Miguel de Veyra: But all good.
260 00:30:40.090 ⇒ 00:30:41.416 Miguel de Veyra: This is
261 00:30:42.980 ⇒ 00:30:45.500 Uttam Kumaran: This is almost like this automation development, right.
262 00:30:45.900 ⇒ 00:30:46.850 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, yeah.
263 00:31:01.770 ⇒ 00:31:03.210 Miguel de Veyra: internal. I think. So.
264 00:31:04.920 ⇒ 00:31:06.440 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’ll just put internal.
265 00:31:11.240 ⇒ 00:31:13.290 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, go ahead.
266 00:31:44.690 ⇒ 00:31:45.400 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
267 00:31:46.560 ⇒ 00:31:48.030 Miguel de Veyra: Then the rest. I’ll just fill up.
268 00:31:49.180 ⇒ 00:31:50.770 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, if you don’t mind filling it out.
269 00:31:50.770 ⇒ 00:31:52.129 Miguel de Veyra: Okay, of course, of course.
270 00:32:00.250 ⇒ 00:32:05.250 Uttam Kumaran: And then do we want to also set this for the 4, th the 3.rd
271 00:32:06.452 ⇒ 00:32:11.299 Miguel de Veyra: I think the latest this should be is 27, th because they’re gonna give us like a week or 2.
272 00:32:12.070 ⇒ 00:32:12.680 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
273 00:32:23.960 ⇒ 00:32:24.930 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Great.
274 00:32:24.930 ⇒ 00:32:30.579 Miguel de Veyra: And then one more thing is without the recording
275 00:32:31.120 ⇒ 00:32:35.949 Miguel de Veyra: building the standard ui for future, you know, stuff.
276 00:32:36.310 ⇒ 00:32:37.839 Uttam Kumaran: Posting on hero coins.
277 00:32:37.840 ⇒ 00:32:42.980 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yeah, yeah, okay, so this is almost like template.
278 00:32:43.270 ⇒ 00:32:46.710 Uttam Kumaran: You template chat, bot, or this is almost like.
279 00:32:46.710 ⇒ 00:32:48.190 Miguel de Veyra: Template. AI ui.
280 00:32:50.210 ⇒ 00:32:52.210 Uttam Kumaran: So much abbreviation stuff.
281 00:32:53.850 ⇒ 00:32:54.590 Miguel de Veyra: I definitely know.
282 00:32:54.590 ⇒ 00:33:00.579 Uttam Kumaran: Say boilerplate chat bot ui.
283 00:33:00.580 ⇒ 00:33:01.420 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, okay?
284 00:33:07.180 ⇒ 00:33:12.360 Miguel de Veyra: And then what? I’m trying to think, what else? Oh, the voice stuff, right?
285 00:33:12.360 ⇒ 00:33:13.040 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
286 00:33:13.680 ⇒ 00:33:14.840 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah. So that’s the other one.
287 00:33:16.620 ⇒ 00:33:18.649 Miguel de Veyra: This one I’ll just fill up to.
288 00:34:24.895 ⇒ 00:34:26.419 Uttam Kumaran: You want to do heroku.
289 00:34:27.250 ⇒ 00:34:30.890 Miguel de Veyra: Yes, yes, we’re going to her. That’s what I’m familiar with.
290 00:34:34.380 ⇒ 00:34:35.740 Uttam Kumaran: I also have netlify.
291 00:34:38.449 ⇒ 00:34:42.530 Miguel de Veyra: You already have it. Yeah, we can. I can wait no problem.
292 00:34:42.530 ⇒ 00:34:44.379 Miguel de Veyra: You can just tell me what’s cheaper.
293 00:34:45.360 ⇒ 00:34:49.509 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, we could also do. We could also put this on our own site
294 00:34:52.360 ⇒ 00:34:54.489 Uttam Kumaran: like you could put it on aws.
295 00:34:58.230 ⇒ 00:35:03.639 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, I mean, okay, okay, because Heroku is just built on top of aws.
296 00:35:03.970 ⇒ 00:35:05.799 Miguel de Veyra: I’m just not sure how to deploy.
297 00:35:05.800 ⇒ 00:35:11.950 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, probably we need some. I probably need to call a friend if we want to deploy, actually do it on Heroku.
298 00:35:12.230 ⇒ 00:35:12.900 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, awesome.
299 00:35:12.900 ⇒ 00:35:14.209 Uttam Kumaran: Call a friend
300 00:35:17.120 ⇒ 00:35:20.010 Uttam Kumaran: Who can help us move that from Heroku to aws.
301 00:35:20.010 ⇒ 00:35:21.969 Miguel de Veyra: Okay, sure, sure. Let’s just do Heroku first.st
302 00:35:21.970 ⇒ 00:35:27.070 Uttam Kumaran: Because it’ll be under brain. It’ll be like Brainforge AI Slash, whatever.
303 00:35:27.280 ⇒ 00:35:27.670 Miguel de Veyra: Oh, yeah.
304 00:35:27.670 ⇒ 00:35:29.949 Uttam Kumaran: Demos. And then we can have a password, basically.
305 00:35:30.090 ⇒ 00:35:30.420 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah.
306 00:35:43.280 ⇒ 00:35:45.360 Miguel de Veyra: do you need anything for this?
307 00:35:45.766 ⇒ 00:35:50.639 Miguel de Veyra: Do we want to ask and to create a ui for this.
308 00:35:52.660 ⇒ 00:35:53.666 Uttam Kumaran: Can you?
309 00:36:03.140 ⇒ 00:36:04.300 Uttam Kumaran: yes.
310 00:36:07.070 ⇒ 00:36:08.960 Uttam Kumaran: Do you need that first.st
311 00:36:10.459 ⇒ 00:36:19.109 Miguel de Veyra: No, no, I can build the, you know a bare bones version of it first, st and then we can just ask her eventually before we deploy, but we will need it.
312 00:37:08.990 ⇒ 00:37:12.650 Uttam Kumaran: So this one also needs to be hooked into.
313 00:37:15.380 ⇒ 00:37:16.360 Miguel de Veyra: Emails.
314 00:37:27.800 ⇒ 00:37:31.079 Miguel de Veyra: and then this also has to be hooked to. Of course, any 10.
315 00:37:31.790 ⇒ 00:37:32.510 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
316 00:38:10.640 ⇒ 00:38:11.460 Uttam Kumaran: okay.
317 00:38:12.590 ⇒ 00:38:16.749 Miguel de Veyra: And then last part, I think, is the voice
318 00:38:19.980 ⇒ 00:38:21.400 Miguel de Veyra: demo whatever.
319 00:38:21.930 ⇒ 00:38:22.700 Miguel de Veyra: Okay?
320 00:38:28.610 ⇒ 00:38:32.459 Uttam Kumaran: Well, one is, we have our brain forge sales chat, bot, right.
321 00:38:32.590 ⇒ 00:38:33.200 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah.
322 00:38:34.190 ⇒ 00:38:40.559 Uttam Kumaran: And then another one is we have a brain forge sales, voice agent.
323 00:38:46.770 ⇒ 00:38:49.610 Uttam Kumaran: Marian, are these automatically getting assigned to Nico.
324 00:38:51.380 ⇒ 00:39:03.400 Mariane Cequina: Yeah, because in the workflow you told me last time. Yeah, because you mentioned that Nicole should do the assign.
325 00:39:04.420 ⇒ 00:39:07.150 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, I see. I see. I see. Okay, it’s fine. Okay.
326 00:39:07.150 ⇒ 00:39:08.700 Mariane Cequina: We can change that actually.
327 00:39:09.550 ⇒ 00:39:10.970 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, yeah, maybe we
328 00:39:11.220 ⇒ 00:39:19.050 Uttam Kumaran: maybe we just well, if it’s on the AI board, I think you could just have no assignment. Or if you want to default it.
329 00:39:19.190 ⇒ 00:39:25.039 Uttam Kumaran: If it’s AI, it should probably just go to me, Miguel or Casey, basically. But it’s also fine.
330 00:39:25.470 ⇒ 00:39:26.130 Mariane Cequina: Okay.
331 00:39:26.700 ⇒ 00:39:32.870 Mariane Cequina: But you have to think if it will be assigned to Casey or Miguel, right? So maybe I should not
332 00:39:33.010 ⇒ 00:39:37.159 Mariane Cequina: create an automation for that. Yeah, should I just remove it?
333 00:39:37.470 ⇒ 00:39:38.140 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
334 00:39:38.320 ⇒ 00:39:39.020 Mariane Cequina: Okay.
335 00:39:40.560 ⇒ 00:39:42.659 Uttam Kumaran: Nice. Okay, this is really helpful.
336 00:39:48.360 ⇒ 00:39:54.010 Miguel de Veyra: I think this sales Chatbot and voice AI. I think I’ve made one for each already.
337 00:39:54.680 ⇒ 00:39:56.870 Miguel de Veyra: I’ll just have to review it with Casey. Yeah.
338 00:39:59.430 ⇒ 00:40:04.170 Uttam Kumaran: But can you? Yeah. Can we link the chat bot here.
339 00:40:04.450 ⇒ 00:40:07.020 Miguel de Veyra: It’s still unrelevant, so we still need to migrate it.
340 00:40:07.260 ⇒ 00:40:08.020 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
341 00:40:11.130 ⇒ 00:40:14.569 Uttam Kumaran: or where? Where is that? Where is is that? Is that linked here anywhere.
342 00:40:15.006 ⇒ 00:40:18.600 Miguel de Veyra: No, no, it’s in relevant. Still, I didn’t find it. I’ll have it there.
343 00:40:23.630 ⇒ 00:40:26.769 Uttam Kumaran: So let me. I’m also gonna I’ll get you more requirements on these.
344 00:40:27.000 ⇒ 00:40:32.050 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, yeah, I think the one I made. I basically just scraped our site.
345 00:40:32.270 ⇒ 00:40:33.600 Miguel de Veyra: You put it all there.
346 00:40:38.330 ⇒ 00:40:46.370 Miguel de Veyra: Wait. Chatbot, rainforce environmentals.
347 00:40:54.740 ⇒ 00:40:55.520 Miguel de Veyra: Here you go.
348 00:41:37.610 ⇒ 00:41:42.109 Casie Aviles: We’ll also be building a Central Brainforge Brainforge agent, right?
349 00:41:43.480 ⇒ 00:41:44.320 Uttam Kumaran: Yes,
350 00:41:46.850 ⇒ 00:41:51.630 Uttam Kumaran: But what do you guys think about that like? Is that almost like it routes it to the right one.
351 00:41:55.780 ⇒ 00:41:58.559 Uttam Kumaran: I feel like, almost we need to brainstorm more about that.
352 00:41:58.560 ⇒ 00:42:02.390 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, yeah, I think we have too much on our plate that we can add this.
353 00:42:02.390 ⇒ 00:42:12.590 Uttam Kumaran: Well, it’s more like, I think we need these. We need basically, we need an agent that’s like, Hey, how can I help you? It’s like, I want to research a lead cool. Tell us what you want. You know. It’s like almost like a router.
354 00:42:12.590 ⇒ 00:42:18.689 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, yeah, I think I made one, but connected like 2 or 3 only before I was just playing around with it.
355 00:42:23.700 ⇒ 00:42:27.109 Uttam Kumaran: And then we also have the the lead agent.
356 00:42:40.380 ⇒ 00:42:48.050 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m gonna review that and and and give some feedback.
357 00:43:04.620 ⇒ 00:43:09.149 Uttam Kumaran: Okay? What other? What other agents are the internal.
358 00:43:13.744 ⇒ 00:43:22.359 Casie Aviles: There’s also the zoom rug agent. But I I still have to go back and fix that one, since it was still on.
359 00:43:22.990 ⇒ 00:43:25.109 Casie Aviles: Yeah, relevance? I think, yeah.
360 00:43:26.870 ⇒ 00:43:27.670 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
361 00:43:28.930 ⇒ 00:43:32.900 Miguel de Veyra: I think honestly, with them. There should be like a ticket here that
362 00:43:33.090 ⇒ 00:43:40.950 Miguel de Veyra: we need to list down all agents we’re working, and then we might, we need to migrate that individually into any 10. So so we could track everything now.
363 00:43:43.520 ⇒ 00:43:49.819 Uttam Kumaran: Well, one is the AI wiki. We almost need to like readjust right.
364 00:43:49.960 ⇒ 00:43:50.680 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah.
365 00:43:51.430 ⇒ 00:43:56.950 Uttam Kumaran: Cause the AI Wiki was supposed to have, like the agents, basically. But I I kind of like.
366 00:43:57.510 ⇒ 00:44:02.089 Uttam Kumaran: almost we need like an agent Wiki, or something.
367 00:44:02.520 ⇒ 00:44:03.080 Miguel de Veyra: Yep.
368 00:44:06.530 ⇒ 00:44:10.580 Uttam Kumaran: Or all this needs to get put into document into the documentation. Basically.
369 00:44:13.900 ⇒ 00:44:18.299 Uttam Kumaran: So let me think about some stuff. I’m gonna add something for me.
370 00:44:19.020 ⇒ 00:44:28.449 Uttam Kumaran: I’m going to say, no sh notion organization for AI team.
371 00:44:29.190 ⇒ 00:44:34.060 Uttam Kumaran: And I’m going to put documentation.
372 00:44:36.920 ⇒ 00:44:53.280 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna do one move, create agent documentation in documentation repo.
373 00:44:53.450 ⇒ 00:44:57.209 Uttam Kumaran: move over things from AI. Wiki.
374 00:45:04.030 ⇒ 00:45:06.160 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So I need to take this one on.
375 00:45:30.230 ⇒ 00:45:34.800 Miguel de Veyra: Utam. I have a question. If I filtered this on my end, will it also be filtered there or no?
376 00:45:35.680 ⇒ 00:45:38.640 Uttam Kumaran: No, you it’ll it’ll ask you if you want to save it.
377 00:45:42.270 ⇒ 00:45:42.590 Uttam Kumaran: No.
378 00:45:42.590 ⇒ 00:45:43.370 Miguel de Veyra: Of yours.
379 00:45:59.490 ⇒ 00:46:06.570 Uttam Kumaran: I’m almost gonna create a meeting agent. Guys, I have to. I’m gonna think about the requirements
380 00:46:07.250 ⇒ 00:46:14.479 Uttam Kumaran: cause. That’s why, Miguel, I wanted you to start recording meetings. Because, dude, think about this. If all the meetings in the company are recorded.
381 00:46:14.750 ⇒ 00:46:19.130 Uttam Kumaran: then you really have a great brain about like everything we’re doing right.
382 00:46:20.530 ⇒ 00:46:22.960 Miguel de Veyra: Is this call being recorded on your end, or.
383 00:46:22.960 ⇒ 00:46:23.740 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
384 00:46:23.740 ⇒ 00:46:26.300 Miguel de Veyra: Okay. Okay. Cause I don’t see the record button in line.
385 00:46:26.510 ⇒ 00:46:28.300 Miguel de Veyra: Oh, there you go, recording.
386 00:46:28.300 ⇒ 00:46:29.290 Uttam Kumaran: It is, yeah.
387 00:46:36.810 ⇒ 00:46:41.450 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. So some of these still need requirements.
388 00:46:42.230 ⇒ 00:46:45.099 Uttam Kumaran: Until then they can’t have due dates.
389 00:46:45.500 ⇒ 00:46:47.930 Uttam Kumaran: I’m going to say, requirements started here.
390 00:46:54.580 ⇒ 00:47:02.860 Miguel de Veyra: For this. Sorry, Tim, for this boilerplate chat. What you I do. We also need to migrate Hpi on this.
391 00:47:05.750 ⇒ 00:47:08.500 Uttam Kumaran: Well, hopefully, you can use Hpi to start.
392 00:47:09.130 ⇒ 00:47:10.370 Miguel de Veyra: Oh, okay, okay, so.
393 00:47:11.670 ⇒ 00:47:12.400 Uttam Kumaran: Right.
394 00:47:12.400 ⇒ 00:47:19.039 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, yeah, so we need to move Hpi to N, 8, n, 1st and then got it. Okay.
395 00:47:45.220 ⇒ 00:47:52.620 Uttam Kumaran: Okay? And then let me sort this bye status.
396 00:47:57.820 ⇒ 00:48:02.640 Uttam Kumaran: and then also add a sort by due date.
397 00:48:10.290 ⇒ 00:48:10.960 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
398 00:48:14.450 ⇒ 00:48:16.800 Uttam Kumaran: okay, how does this look?
399 00:48:17.540 ⇒ 00:48:18.580 Uttam Kumaran: Not bad.
400 00:48:19.150 ⇒ 00:48:20.060 Miguel de Veyra: But.
401 00:48:21.610 ⇒ 00:48:23.889 Uttam Kumaran: Do we feel way more organized than before?
402 00:48:26.010 ⇒ 00:48:26.940 Miguel de Veyra: Definitely.
403 00:48:26.940 ⇒ 00:48:28.723 Uttam Kumaran: I do dude, I do.
404 00:48:30.230 ⇒ 00:48:34.530 Uttam Kumaran: You guys don’t then fine, but I feel way more. This I this is great.
405 00:48:34.530 ⇒ 00:48:35.090 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, yeah.
406 00:48:35.090 ⇒ 00:48:37.980 Uttam Kumaran: This is still not everything that’s on my brain, but like.
407 00:48:37.980 ⇒ 00:48:41.310 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, I think there’s a bit more that we need to add here. But yeah.
408 00:48:42.200 ⇒ 00:48:44.769 Miguel de Veyra: so needs needs requirements. We don’t
409 00:48:45.193 ⇒ 00:48:50.319 Miguel de Veyra: so wait. Sorry I have a question. As long as there’s no due date we don’t work on it on it yet.
410 00:48:50.320 ⇒ 00:48:53.959 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So I guess Marianne, can we can we talk about
411 00:48:54.220 ⇒ 00:48:56.150 Uttam Kumaran: the process like, when these guys
412 00:48:56.310 ⇒ 00:49:00.060 Uttam Kumaran: log in like, where should they go to see the tickets assigned to them.
413 00:49:00.430 ⇒ 00:49:02.530 Uttam Kumaran: and like what should they should be working on.
414 00:49:02.880 ⇒ 00:49:08.749 Mariane Cequina: Okay, actually, that’s also one of the reason why I’m planning to create the personal dashboard. Maybe I.
415 00:49:08.750 ⇒ 00:49:09.090 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
416 00:49:09.090 ⇒ 00:49:12.249 Mariane Cequina: I’ll do the AI team first.st And even the data.
417 00:49:12.400 ⇒ 00:49:13.010 Mariane Cequina: Yeah. So.
418 00:49:13.010 ⇒ 00:49:13.430 Uttam Kumaran: Perfect.
419 00:49:13.430 ⇒ 00:49:26.640 Mariane Cequina: They can start doing that, but it won’t appear. If there’s no due date, I just wanna clarify. I I mean, it might appear. But most of the time I sorted out based on the this week’s task. So in that way they will know that
420 00:49:26.640 ⇒ 00:49:28.850 Mariane Cequina: we should just set a due date for the future.
421 00:49:29.260 ⇒ 00:49:36.120 Mariane Cequina: Yeah. But it’s okay. If if it’s not something that they need to do yet, basically.
422 00:49:36.120 ⇒ 00:49:40.630 Uttam Kumaran: Well, what I can also do is basically not assign anyone until the requirements are there.
423 00:49:41.370 ⇒ 00:49:46.070 Mariane Cequina: No, no, actually you can assign them. No, it’s okay. If you would assign them.
424 00:49:46.230 ⇒ 00:49:52.039 Uttam Kumaran: No, because at this I don’t want them to. I don’t want it. It’s cause the way. So typically the way it works is like
425 00:49:52.220 ⇒ 00:49:56.419 Uttam Kumaran: work gets all the requirements get done, then we assign. So I think this is fine.
426 00:49:56.800 ⇒ 00:49:57.530 Mariane Cequina: Okay.
427 00:49:59.320 ⇒ 00:49:59.820 Uttam Kumaran: Cause.
428 00:49:59.820 ⇒ 00:50:05.849 Uttam Kumaran: And right now we don’t know what the scope is. We don’t know anything. So this is fine. And then that solves that problem. So this is perfect.
429 00:50:06.300 ⇒ 00:50:07.080 Mariane Cequina: Okay.
430 00:50:07.080 ⇒ 00:50:12.770 Uttam Kumaran: So these are still don’t have all the requirements, but they have enough to start getting to start working.
431 00:50:15.120 ⇒ 00:50:19.610 Uttam Kumaran: And when can we set the due date for this chat. Bot ui, Miguel.
432 00:50:20.360 ⇒ 00:50:23.060 Uttam Kumaran: This isn’t like super high priority, but, like.
433 00:50:23.280 ⇒ 00:50:26.210 Miguel de Veyra: Probably January 3, rd too.
434 00:50:30.180 ⇒ 00:50:33.259 Miguel de Veyra: because we have a lot for browser based stuff.
435 00:50:34.470 ⇒ 00:50:36.409 Uttam Kumaran: Okay? And then what is this section?
436 00:50:37.130 ⇒ 00:50:38.130 Uttam Kumaran: Marianne?
437 00:50:39.220 ⇒ 00:50:45.889 Mariane Cequina: Those were the top priority for the week. So, for example, you created the due date within this week, and then the priority.
438 00:50:45.890 ⇒ 00:50:46.660 Uttam Kumaran: Is simple.
439 00:50:46.660 ⇒ 00:50:47.790 Mariane Cequina: It will appear there.
440 00:50:49.330 ⇒ 00:50:57.092 Uttam Kumaran: Awesome great bond, and then these ones I have to.
441 00:50:57.570 ⇒ 00:51:00.930 Mariane Cequina: You can hide that if there is not yet I’m just gonna.
442 00:51:00.930 ⇒ 00:51:04.469 Uttam Kumaran: Where where are these ones? Oh, these are all done.
443 00:51:05.510 ⇒ 00:51:07.609 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, these are all done, I see.
444 00:51:10.010 ⇒ 00:51:15.730 Uttam Kumaran: can we? Can we? Yeah, let me filter out the ones that are done.
445 00:51:19.700 ⇒ 00:51:21.670 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. This is perfect.
446 00:51:30.490 ⇒ 00:51:32.129 Miguel de Veyra: Oh, is not okay.
447 00:51:33.890 ⇒ 00:51:38.299 Uttam Kumaran: Great awesome. So this is all upcoming.
448 00:51:38.980 ⇒ 00:51:48.740 Uttam Kumaran: I wanna add, okay, so status did my status great.
449 00:51:50.300 ⇒ 00:51:52.897 Uttam Kumaran: And then I wanna look at
450 00:51:54.380 ⇒ 00:51:57.850 Uttam Kumaran: I wanna create a duplicate version of this?
451 00:52:00.340 ⇒ 00:52:05.040 Uttam Kumaran: Well, I’m just gonna edit this one. Then.
452 00:52:38.500 ⇒ 00:52:39.290 Uttam Kumaran: okay.
453 00:52:46.103 ⇒ 00:52:52.179 Mariane Cequina: I just wanna clarify for the active tickets. It’s actually said that that is not oh, wait! I’m just gonna
454 00:52:53.740 ⇒ 00:52:54.240 Mariane Cequina: double.
455 00:52:54.240 ⇒ 00:52:54.890 Uttam Kumaran: Or should I?
456 00:52:54.890 ⇒ 00:52:55.640 Mariane Cequina: Sure.
457 00:52:56.770 ⇒ 00:52:59.869 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, this is status is just in progress.
458 00:53:00.070 ⇒ 00:53:01.910 Mariane Cequina: Oh, okay, okay. Got it.
459 00:53:02.590 ⇒ 00:53:05.229 Uttam Kumaran: I can just do is in progress instead.
460 00:53:07.530 ⇒ 00:53:08.180 Mariane Cequina: Okay.
461 00:53:16.580 ⇒ 00:53:18.469 Uttam Kumaran: And then these will all move to planned.
462 00:53:29.190 ⇒ 00:53:29.950 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
463 00:53:33.320 ⇒ 00:53:34.690 Uttam Kumaran: perfect guys.
464 00:53:38.250 ⇒ 00:53:43.100 Uttam Kumaran: Anything else we want to talk about.
465 00:53:49.210 ⇒ 00:53:50.000 Miguel de Veyra: Wait.
466 00:53:50.580 ⇒ 00:53:55.900 Miguel de Veyra: So our main agent builder now is gonna be an 8 n, right.
467 00:53:57.870 ⇒ 00:54:05.329 Uttam Kumaran: I think, for the for right now. Yes, I mean, there’s a couple, I think ideally, we probably should
468 00:54:05.640 ⇒ 00:54:11.079 Uttam Kumaran: use N. 8 N. Or think about using another workflow builder.
469 00:54:11.310 ⇒ 00:54:15.520 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know. Like, what do you guys think like, maybe we need to do a spike on that, too.
470 00:54:15.830 ⇒ 00:54:19.927 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah, I think anything is pretty good
471 00:54:21.430 ⇒ 00:54:24.480 Miguel de Veyra: Casey, you’ve worked a lot more on that recently.
472 00:54:25.180 ⇒ 00:54:26.839 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, I think it is better.
473 00:54:26.840 ⇒ 00:54:27.869 Miguel de Veyra: It is, is, it.
474 00:54:27.870 ⇒ 00:54:28.230 Casie Aviles: Yeah.
475 00:54:28.230 ⇒ 00:54:36.669 Miguel de Veyra: Like. The only thing I’m kind of worried, is it? Are we allowed to have like to treat agents as like other tools?
476 00:54:38.850 ⇒ 00:54:41.649 Casie Aviles: Oh, you mean like calling sub agents.
477 00:54:41.650 ⇒ 00:54:54.159 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah. Yeah. Cause Hpi is gonna be like that, right? Where base do we have a? Because one of the things I need to do with them is basically migrate the entire Hpi agent into 9, 10,
478 00:54:56.100 ⇒ 00:55:00.050 Miguel de Veyra: one Eval. So we probably have to add another ticket on that.
479 00:55:00.450 ⇒ 00:55:00.890 Uttam Kumaran: There!
480 00:55:00.890 ⇒ 00:55:07.059 Miguel de Veyra: So I’m not sure yet. Unless, Casey, you’ve looked into it to basically, yeah, I haven’t tried that.
481 00:55:08.120 ⇒ 00:55:11.149 Miguel de Veyra: Okay, yeah, can we create a spike for that utham.
482 00:55:11.550 ⇒ 00:55:16.110 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I just did right here. So it’s long term. AI workflow builders.
483 00:55:16.110 ⇒ 00:55:16.910 Miguel de Veyra: Okay. Yeah.
484 00:55:17.750 ⇒ 00:55:20.200 Uttam Kumaran: And we can decide like which one we want to use.
485 00:55:28.860 ⇒ 00:55:37.799 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I I found like I would. I would. I saw some agent workflow builders that were having like evals integrated already. So.
486 00:55:37.800 ⇒ 00:55:38.810 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, really.
487 00:55:38.810 ⇒ 00:55:40.030 Miguel de Veyra: Oh, really! Which ones.
488 00:55:40.740 ⇒ 00:55:42.949 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I forgot. I forgot the name. But.
489 00:55:42.950 ⇒ 00:55:44.519 Miguel de Veyra: Just don’t say, flow wise.
490 00:55:44.980 ⇒ 00:55:46.860 Casie Aviles: No, no, it’s not flow wise.
491 00:55:47.660 ⇒ 00:55:49.160 Uttam Kumaran: Slow ice, really bad.
492 00:55:50.762 ⇒ 00:55:55.790 Miguel de Veyra: like a couple of months ago. Yes, I’m not sure I haven’t really dialed in like
493 00:55:56.040 ⇒ 00:56:01.420 Miguel de Veyra: cause. I don’t want to get stuck on, you know, keeping on migrating from one platform to another.
494 00:56:01.610 ⇒ 00:56:02.889 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
495 00:56:08.210 ⇒ 00:56:12.160 Uttam Kumaran: And maybe it’s a process, too. Maybe it starts at any end. And then we move it to code.
496 00:56:14.690 ⇒ 00:56:16.530 Uttam Kumaran: The problem with code is that like.
497 00:56:16.820 ⇒ 00:56:18.060 Miguel de Veyra: It’s really hard to maintain.
498 00:56:18.840 ⇒ 00:56:23.389 Uttam Kumaran: No, it’s just like everybody has to be. Everybody has to be developers like.
499 00:56:25.680 ⇒ 00:56:29.199 Uttam Kumaran: you know what I mean like Casey will have. We all have to start writing more code.
500 00:56:31.390 ⇒ 00:56:34.150 Miguel de Veyra: And I think that will balloon the development time. A lot.
501 00:56:34.600 ⇒ 00:56:35.380 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
502 00:56:36.270 ⇒ 00:56:37.100 Casie Aviles: Yeah, since.
503 00:56:37.100 ⇒ 00:56:43.160 Miguel de Veyra: But I think if we close a client, then we can look into it. But for Demos I I do not recommend it.
504 00:56:43.310 ⇒ 00:56:43.990 Miguel de Veyra: I agree.
505 00:56:45.010 ⇒ 00:56:45.910 Casie Aviles: Yeah, yeah.
506 00:56:47.530 ⇒ 00:56:47.950 Miguel de Veyra: Manage.
507 00:56:47.950 ⇒ 00:56:48.320 Casie Aviles: That’s fine!
508 00:56:48.320 ⇒ 00:56:49.280 Miguel de Veyra: A month.
509 00:56:50.140 ⇒ 00:56:50.640 Casie Aviles: Or maybe.
510 00:56:50.640 ⇒ 00:56:52.370 Miguel de Veyra: 2 weeks for a demo.
511 00:56:53.295 ⇒ 00:57:00.460 Casie Aviles: And based on what I’ve seen so far with the evals, I think they work best with code, like with the sdks
512 00:57:00.590 ⇒ 00:57:05.710 Casie Aviles: so they’re they’re not as good with. Just, you know, the workflow builders. There’s a lot of
513 00:57:06.200 ⇒ 00:57:07.819 Casie Aviles: limitations with that.
514 00:57:08.000 ⇒ 00:57:11.610 Casie Aviles: So that’s just something to consider. I guess.
515 00:57:29.090 ⇒ 00:57:31.189 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. So we’ll think about this longer term.
516 00:57:32.730 ⇒ 00:57:38.570 Uttam Kumaran: I’m just gonna I’ll just plan this for like later.
517 00:57:46.060 ⇒ 00:57:52.099 Miguel de Veyra: So which which one do we prioritize? The high priority or the closest to due date?
518 00:57:52.780 ⇒ 00:57:54.460 Uttam Kumaran: Good question.
519 00:57:57.070 ⇒ 00:57:58.450 Miguel de Veyra: Important. Here’s urgent.
520 00:57:58.450 ⇒ 00:58:04.560 Uttam Kumaran: Anything that’s planned like anything that the requirements are done. Do the high priority ones.
521 00:58:04.940 ⇒ 00:58:05.940 Miguel de Veyra: Okay. Okay.
522 00:58:08.630 ⇒ 00:58:12.239 Uttam Kumaran: And then it basically work on work on the due date.
523 00:58:33.580 ⇒ 00:58:37.049 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, guys, anything else we wanna discuss.
524 00:58:38.370 ⇒ 00:58:42.569 Uttam Kumaran: I think we’ll run with this this week, and we’ll make some more improvements, and then.
525 00:58:42.570 ⇒ 00:58:43.100 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah.
526 00:58:43.710 ⇒ 00:58:44.859 Uttam Kumaran: See how it goes.
527 00:58:44.860 ⇒ 00:58:48.700 Miguel de Veyra: So we have a week start, and then a weekend meeting right.
528 00:58:50.990 ⇒ 00:58:52.399 Miguel de Veyra: How does it? How would it be.
529 00:58:52.400 ⇒ 00:58:59.979 Uttam Kumaran: So the way this, the typically the way that most teams do this is they basically run sprints where we have, like 2 week sprints
530 00:59:00.840 ⇒ 00:59:04.460 Uttam Kumaran: probably not necessary for us, because we don’t have like formal deployments.
531 00:59:04.690 ⇒ 00:59:10.440 Uttam Kumaran: So I think what we’ll probably do is we’ll just run like week by week sprints.
532 00:59:10.880 ⇒ 00:59:14.530 Uttam Kumaran: So we just look at kind of like what’s due this week. Looks like this week.
533 00:59:17.800 ⇒ 00:59:22.230 Miguel de Veyra: Like I have. We have some requirements calls, but really everything else is like, next week.
534 00:59:22.620 ⇒ 00:59:23.170 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah.
535 00:59:25.440 ⇒ 00:59:26.460 Uttam Kumaran: So I think
536 00:59:27.100 ⇒ 00:59:32.229 Uttam Kumaran: what we’ll do is we’ll have. We’ll have this meeting on Mondays, and then we’ll do a team meeting
537 00:59:32.400 ⇒ 00:59:41.700 Uttam Kumaran: on probably Friday, or Thursday, just to or yeah, maybe Friday, just to basically close out everything.
538 00:59:43.190 ⇒ 00:59:46.399 Uttam Kumaran: But we’ll also talk during the week, and then Monday, we’ll do all the planning for the week.
539 00:59:46.600 ⇒ 00:59:51.219 Miguel de Veyra: Once we get into more routine, we can, we can think about. Hey? Do we want to do 2 week sprints.
540 00:59:51.350 ⇒ 00:59:53.539 Uttam Kumaran: Because, look, the problem is, some work
541 00:59:53.920 ⇒ 00:59:57.120 Uttam Kumaran: may not. You may not be able to do everything in one week.
542 00:59:57.270 ⇒ 00:59:59.660 Miguel de Veyra: It’s kind of redundant to talk about every week.
543 00:59:59.960 ⇒ 01:00:05.639 Uttam Kumaran: But let’s see how it goes. Let’s just try this like sort of kanban approach, and then we’ll we’ll figure out what works for us.
544 01:00:09.060 ⇒ 01:00:09.670 Miguel de Veyra: Okay.
545 01:00:11.810 ⇒ 01:00:17.640 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great. So I’ll I’ll maybe put some time on tomorrow just to chat me like 15 min.
546 01:00:17.850 ⇒ 01:00:26.120 Uttam Kumaran: But honestly, I’d rather just use slack as much as possible. And we just meet. We want to talk about specific tickets or other stuff.
547 01:00:28.800 ⇒ 01:00:30.660 Uttam Kumaran: Like, I can basically just ask
548 01:00:30.810 ⇒ 01:00:33.870 Uttam Kumaran: in slack like, hey, how do we feel about this?
549 01:00:34.430 ⇒ 01:00:37.430 Uttam Kumaran: Or if I have updates, I’ll just ping in slack.
550 01:00:37.950 ⇒ 01:00:38.580 Miguel de Veyra: Perfect.
551 01:00:38.860 ⇒ 01:00:40.349 Uttam Kumaran: Help me get really organized.
552 01:00:40.880 ⇒ 01:00:41.490 Miguel de Veyra: Yeah.
553 01:00:44.020 ⇒ 01:00:48.789 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, guys. If not, then thank you for the time. And then, yeah, we’ll chat soon.
554 01:00:49.250 ⇒ 01:00:50.510 Miguel de Veyra: Okay. Thanks. Everyone.
555 01:00:50.660 ⇒ 01:00:53.180 Uttam Kumaran: Thanks everyone. Thanks, Marianne for joining. I appreciate it.
556 01:00:53.880 ⇒ 01:00:54.210 Mariane Cequina: Thank you.
557 01:00:54.210 ⇒ 01:00:54.740 Uttam Kumaran: 5.