Meeting Title: Brainforge-Webflow-Kickoff - Halim Date: 2024-10-24 Meeting participants: Abdelhalim, Anne, Uttam Kumaran


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1 00:00:16.540 00:00:17.380 Anne: Hello!

2 00:00:18.590 00:00:19.410 Abdelhalim: Hello!

3 00:00:20.120 00:00:20.886 Anne: Hi! Hey!

4 00:00:25.740 00:00:27.769 Anne: How do you pronounce your name? Sorry.

5 00:00:29.690 00:00:32.670 Abdelhalim: You can just say Halim.

6 00:00:33.270 00:00:34.470 Anne: Oh, okay, okay.

7 00:00:35.000 00:00:40.580 Anne: Okay. Nice meeting you, Halim. We’ll just wait for you. Done, I guess.

8 00:00:42.530 00:00:44.990 Abdelhalim: Yeah, I think he is in a meeting or something.

9 00:00:45.730 00:00:46.510 Anne: Yeah, yeah.

10 00:00:47.990 00:00:51.359 Anne: let’s just wait for him. I’ll just ping him also.

11 00:00:52.120 00:00:56.230 Abdelhalim: Sorry. What? What about your name? Is it Anne or Annie?

12 00:00:57.010 00:00:57.810 Anne: And.

13 00:00:58.530 00:00:59.380 Abdelhalim: Okay.

14 00:00:59.560 00:01:00.300 Abdelhalim: Cool.

15 00:02:08.060 00:02:10.300 Uttam Kumaran: Hey? Everyone! Sorry for the delay.

16 00:02:11.650 00:02:12.910 Abdelhalim: Hey? No worries.

17 00:02:13.970 00:02:15.219 Uttam Kumaran: How’s everyone doing?

18 00:02:19.113 00:02:20.360 Abdelhalim: I’m good.

19 00:02:20.960 00:02:26.039 Uttam Kumaran: Thank you for taking the time. You go by, Halim. Sorry, I know I’ve been saying, Abdel Halim, but.

20 00:02:29.500 00:02:30.440 Abdelhalim: Yeah, it’s

21 00:02:30.960 00:02:34.290 Abdelhalim: It’s just, I think, a short version of the name.

22 00:02:34.450 00:02:35.130 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

23 00:02:38.440 00:02:44.934 Uttam Kumaran: nice to see you. Yeah, thanks for thanks for responding. And yeah, I think,

24 00:02:45.390 00:02:49.034 Uttam Kumaran: we’re excited to to get started. I think.

25 00:02:49.590 00:02:50.799 Uttam Kumaran: I wanted to kind of

26 00:02:51.130 00:02:54.919 Uttam Kumaran: kick off by kind of sharing maybe a little bit about

27 00:02:54.930 00:03:23.859 Uttam Kumaran: our current site and sort of what our needs are and maybe and I will kind of let you try. But I’ll maybe I’ll start telling you a little bit about Brainforge. So you have context there. So brain Forge is a company. We started about a year ago. We’re primarily focused on data and AI services. Based here in the Us basically, we help companies measure their businesses implement data technologies. And we’re starting to also do a lot around AI and AI services.

28 00:03:24.120 00:03:38.679 Uttam Kumaran: In terms of the design and the website. We’ve gone through a couple of iterations. But I think you know, as as soon as and join, we’ve done a lot of amazing stuff on the design side. And you know, I think we have a really great foundation for folks to come in and assist.

29 00:03:38.680 00:03:53.910 Uttam Kumaran: you know, either on the design side or on the web flow development side. Right now, we have about 4 or 5 pages that are ready, or basically probably will be ready in the next 3, 3 or 4 days. That need to get built. One of which is that blog page.

30 00:03:54.288 00:04:00.720 Uttam Kumaran: But we basically have everything in figma, we’re using reloom. We have components already. We have a Cms

31 00:04:01.233 00:04:05.670 Uttam Kumaran: so hopefully, it’s like everything. It’s not like starting from scratch

32 00:04:06.146 00:04:11.210 Uttam Kumaran: and so I think initially, kind of what I’m thinking is like. And we kind of just go page

33 00:04:11.480 00:04:14.319 Uttam Kumaran: by page on, like what we’ve done. And I think.

34 00:04:14.613 00:04:24.479 Uttam Kumaran: Helene, we basically I. We all work through slack and everything. So I can add you there and and add you to web flow and stuff. And I still, I know I need owe you some stuff about

35 00:04:24.540 00:04:33.620 Uttam Kumaran: contracts and things like that. But yeah, just wanted to have a discussion between the 3 of us, and then, if we wanted to jump in designs or answer any questions you have, we can do that today.

36 00:04:34.980 00:04:40.708 Abdelhalim: Yeah, great I think for web flow. You can just invite me as a guest to your workspace

37 00:04:41.961 00:04:53.680 Abdelhalim: for the pages I assume. Since you’re using Reloom, you already have a style guide page and yeah. And you have the variables in place.

38 00:04:53.870 00:04:55.340 Abdelhalim: To be honest, that’s

39 00:04:55.640 00:05:01.680 Abdelhalim: I think it’s gonna be one of my favorite projects, because I I usually use Reloom

40 00:05:02.100 00:05:03.810 Abdelhalim: nice. Yes.

41 00:05:03.920 00:05:04.400 Abdelhalim: it’s.

42 00:05:04.400 00:05:06.019 Uttam Kumaran: What do you like about reloading.

43 00:05:07.275 00:05:21.920 Abdelhalim: Since I’m working on both sides the design and development. I like it. It saves me a lot of time, even in in design. So I I start by the components, and then I I tweak them to

44 00:05:22.040 00:05:25.439 Abdelhalim: to match the branding and the art direction of the

45 00:05:25.860 00:05:28.009 Abdelhalim: of the websites.

46 00:05:28.690 00:05:34.780 Uttam Kumaran: Can you? And maybe I should ask you. And this, can you explain what? How is relove? Different than figma?

47 00:05:34.910 00:05:39.479 Uttam Kumaran: And because so I have experience. I I used to do what front end development but like

48 00:05:39.550 00:05:43.839 Uttam Kumaran: in like Jquery and like HTML, css, like some react stuff

49 00:05:44.250 00:05:47.500 Uttam Kumaran: before, like web flow, and things like that. Of course I.

50 00:05:47.500 00:05:48.050 Abdelhalim: I’ve.

51 00:05:48.050 00:05:54.529 Uttam Kumaran: Done a lot in Figma with with design teams, but I just heard about Reloom recently.

52 00:05:54.620 00:06:00.269 Uttam Kumaran: But I feel like it’s just figma like I don’t know. I don’t know what’s the like. What is, what’s the difference?

53 00:06:03.950 00:06:07.424 Uttam Kumaran: That’s for either of you guys that’s just generally.

54 00:06:08.830 00:06:17.359 Anne: I was waiting for him. Well, actually, it will be much easier, because from realm you could just copy paste the components.

55 00:06:17.750 00:06:23.349 Anne: Yeah, if you can see also in the blog section that we have sent you. Ali.

56 00:06:24.480 00:06:28.240 Anne: The Slider is. I think it’s not unreal.

57 00:06:28.470 00:06:34.049 Anne: But we’re trying to have that features in the website. But.

58 00:06:34.130 00:06:38.145 Anne: as you can see on the other at the bottom side,

59 00:06:38.980 00:06:41.080 Anne: at the bottom page part.

60 00:06:41.080 00:06:41.889 Abdelhalim: Yeah, I can.

61 00:06:41.890 00:06:42.230 Anne: They!

62 00:06:42.230 00:06:44.440 Abdelhalim: And recognize the components.

63 00:06:44.440 00:06:45.080 Anne: Yeah, yeah.

64 00:06:45.080 00:06:45.690 Abdelhalim: Yeah, yeah.

65 00:06:45.690 00:06:50.610 Anne: Like the same. Yeah. So we’re just reusing same components.

66 00:06:51.410 00:07:00.878 Abdelhalim: Yeah. Yeah. So I I would say, your time isn’t a tool. It’s just you can say it’s a library of components.

67 00:07:02.001 00:07:04.488 Abdelhalim: It. It’s similar to

68 00:07:05.310 00:07:11.029 Abdelhalim: since he used to code in react, there is something called prime react.

69 00:07:11.620 00:07:21.809 Abdelhalim: So for primary act, you would you would have a figma library for designs, and also you will have the front end library.

70 00:07:23.750 00:07:26.150 Uttam Kumaran: I see. Okay, okay, okay.

71 00:07:26.820 00:07:29.729 Abdelhalim: Yeah, they. They also have this. Ai, too.

72 00:07:29.730 00:07:33.669 Uttam Kumaran: So it’s like, it’s like prime reactor, like material ui, like component, like.

73 00:07:33.670 00:07:34.150 Abdelhalim: Yeah.

74 00:07:34.150 00:07:35.770 Uttam Kumaran: For for webflow.

75 00:07:36.210 00:07:38.080 Abdelhalim: Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

76 00:07:38.260 00:07:43.195 Uttam Kumaran: And this didn’t exist before. Like what? What was, what’s the what was the what was happening before.

77 00:07:45.402 00:07:49.986 Abdelhalim: I think people use to follow certain frameworks.

78 00:07:50.580 00:07:54.650 Abdelhalim: so Reloom actually is using a framework. It’s called client. First.st

79 00:07:55.579 00:08:03.520 Abdelhalim: It’s just the class naming convention. Nothing like. Nothing really complicated. It’s very simple.

80 00:08:04.500 00:08:05.150 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

81 00:08:06.430 00:08:15.259 Abdelhalim: And then they have this AI tool. It’s like, it’s not very smart, but you can just give a prompt and they generate the site map for you.

82 00:08:15.510 00:08:18.760 Abdelhalim: and also the Wireframes did their

83 00:08:18.800 00:08:28.230 Abdelhalim: trying to add the last feature which is just to give them your colors, your phones, and so on, and they would apply the brand as well

84 00:08:28.450 00:08:29.550 Abdelhalim: for you.

85 00:08:29.800 00:08:35.059 Abdelhalim: Not sure what we are going to do by then as designers. Yeah.

86 00:08:36.150 00:08:42.509 Uttam Kumaran: And then, and I’m in reloom right now. Is it? Is everything going through my account? Or where are we storing everything.

87 00:08:44.852 00:08:48.019 Anne: If you’re in reloom, you could just copy the

88 00:08:48.290 00:08:56.909 Anne: like. The button there like copy to clipboard, and then automatically, when you are in web flow. You could just paste it like command. V.

89 00:08:57.610 00:08:57.930 Abdelhalim: Yep.

90 00:08:57.930 00:08:59.779 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay, okay. Okay.

91 00:09:01.240 00:09:03.569 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, I see what you mean.

92 00:09:04.180 00:09:07.849 Uttam Kumaran: Got it? Okay, cool. I get it. Now. Alright, thanks.

93 00:09:08.740 00:09:10.389 Uttam Kumaran: Cool, I guess.

94 00:09:11.310 00:09:13.140 Uttam Kumaran: and maybe we can walk through the

95 00:09:13.470 00:09:16.800 Uttam Kumaran: the what’s remaining on the blog. And then maybe we just show

96 00:09:16.960 00:09:21.147 Uttam Kumaran: we could just walk through kind of the whole site for Halim and

97 00:09:22.170 00:09:24.850 Uttam Kumaran: Just show him like kind of the key areas.

98 00:09:25.128 00:09:27.809 Uttam Kumaran: I know you’ve probably seen what’s live right now. But

99 00:09:27.880 00:09:32.359 Uttam Kumaran: of course, like, there’s actually quite a bit that’s in this that’s ready to be built.

100 00:09:32.711 00:09:42.060 Uttam Kumaran: That that Anne’s working like super quickly on. So maybe. And if you do want to just like walk through the file. And maybe I can just invite you to

101 00:09:42.722 00:09:47.829 Uttam Kumaran: you. I think you have. You have access to the whole file. But I can also just invite your email, too. But.

102 00:09:51.080 00:09:53.220 Abdelhalim: Yeah, I have access to the whole file.

103 00:09:53.630 00:09:58.780 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, maybe we can just follow and and do you do you? If you want to just walk through like kind of the key pages.

104 00:09:59.260 00:09:59.720 Abdelhalim: It’s.

105 00:09:59.720 00:10:00.460 Anne: Oh, yeah. Yeah.

106 00:10:01.010 00:10:02.750 Anne: Sure. Okay.

107 00:10:07.360 00:10:10.510 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, it’s the Figma file is pretty organized, but just so

108 00:10:11.020 00:10:12.719 Uttam Kumaran: you get a sense of everything.

109 00:10:17.140 00:10:19.580 Abdelhalim: Yeah, I’m just switching from

110 00:10:19.950 00:10:21.569 Abdelhalim: this account.

111 00:10:23.890 00:10:27.099 Uttam Kumaran: And then also, do you have what I know for the guests.

112 00:10:27.190 00:10:29.569 Uttam Kumaran: I think you require web, flow.

113 00:10:30.180 00:10:31.870 Abdelhalim: Freelancer, Plan.

114 00:10:32.080 00:10:34.099 Uttam Kumaran: Do you? Are you already on that, or do you want to join.

115 00:10:34.100 00:10:35.140 Abdelhalim: Yeah, yeah.

116 00:10:35.160 00:10:38.399 Abdelhalim: no, no, I’m I’m already on it. Okay.

117 00:10:38.610 00:10:50.559 Abdelhalim: I think I’m on in more than 10 workspaces or something. It that I I prefer this way, because if you, if you take the credentials from everyone, you would it would be a mess.

118 00:10:51.150 00:10:59.299 Uttam Kumaran: Well, yeah, I mean, I agree, I I deal with, we’re doing this problem like across the whole company. So I just wanna make sure.

119 00:11:00.030 00:11:00.325 Abdelhalim: Yeah.

120 00:11:02.160 00:11:05.229 Abdelhalim: no, I think I’m in. Yeah, I’m in.

121 00:11:05.230 00:11:13.665 Anne: Okay, maybe. We can. Okay, sorry. Maybe we can start with this style guide with this style guide.

122 00:11:14.610 00:11:20.670 Anne: it’s the same with the reloom, but in web flow. I think we haven’t really established it yet.

123 00:11:20.700 00:11:23.220 Anne: the full of it. Just the homepage.

124 00:11:23.420 00:11:35.260 Anne: So if you want to follow this style. Guide here this. These are the ones that they use the blog page and other pages as well. So you can follow this one.

125 00:11:35.740 00:11:38.009 Anne: But in web flow. We.

126 00:11:38.270 00:11:48.030 Anne: I don’t think we already have the variables for for the headings and but for the colors and buttons it’s already there.

127 00:11:48.030 00:11:48.570 Abdelhalim: Hmm.

128 00:11:49.596 00:11:51.860 Anne: Just the headings, because

129 00:11:52.627 00:11:56.739 Anne: this week we’ll start that optimizing our

130 00:11:57.010 00:11:59.399 Anne: website with SEO. So

131 00:12:00.190 00:12:03.029 Anne: we need to fix that one.

132 00:12:04.170 00:12:08.319 Anne: So next one is the blog page. So here

133 00:12:08.390 00:12:16.429 Anne: for this one, this featured section, here it is. Custom feature. It’s not on rhythm. So you might want to

134 00:12:17.210 00:12:19.060 Anne: customize that one.

135 00:12:19.520 00:12:20.310 Anne: but for.

136 00:12:20.310 00:12:24.749 Abdelhalim: So so you don’t have. You don’t have the slider component before it’s.

137 00:12:24.750 00:12:25.160 Anne: Yeah.

138 00:12:25.160 00:12:26.650 Abdelhalim: Explain, right? Okay.

139 00:12:26.650 00:12:29.030 Anne: Yep, yep. So this is the 1st one.

140 00:12:29.200 00:12:31.641 Anne: and then this one. It’s

141 00:12:33.640 00:12:35.660 Anne: It’s from realm as well.

142 00:12:35.660 00:12:37.330 Abdelhalim: Yeah, yeah, so.

143 00:12:37.330 00:12:38.239 Anne: No worries. Yeah.

144 00:12:38.240 00:12:45.810 Abdelhalim: Yeah, I have a question here. Do you want these tags or categories to be tabs or filters?

145 00:12:47.820 00:12:49.699 Uttam Kumaran: I thought of it as tabs.

146 00:12:51.170 00:12:55.120 Uttam Kumaran: I know, I think, in the designs, and you have it as like you can select

147 00:12:55.280 00:12:56.210 Uttam Kumaran: multiple. But.

148 00:12:56.210 00:12:56.810 Anne: Yeah.

149 00:12:57.090 00:13:00.650 Uttam Kumaran: I feel like it’s easiest just to select you. Just get to select one.

150 00:13:01.977 00:13:08.160 Abdelhalim: Not sure from SEO perspective. But I think this

151 00:13:08.170 00:13:20.180 Abdelhalim: the the optimum is to have only one instance of the of the collection, because if if you’re if we are going to do it as steps, you will repeat the collection in 5 or the 6 of them.

152 00:13:20.730 00:13:22.159 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, I see. Okay.

153 00:13:22.810 00:13:25.741 Abdelhalim: But if they are filters, which

154 00:13:26.230 00:13:26.570 Uttam Kumaran: Think it’.

155 00:13:26.570 00:13:26.910 Abdelhalim: See, with.

156 00:13:26.910 00:13:31.070 Uttam Kumaran: I think it’s just a filter, because each the pages are individual pages.

157 00:13:32.540 00:13:38.980 Abdelhalim: Yeah, you you wouldn’t see the difference. But I I’m just talking about the implementation

158 00:13:40.320 00:13:40.920 Abdelhalim: Yeah.

159 00:13:41.520 00:13:42.860 Abdelhalim: but he wouldn’t feel.

160 00:13:42.860 00:13:43.510 Anne: Edit.

161 00:13:44.340 00:13:48.250 Anne: Sorry. Maybe we can add it as a category in Cms.

162 00:13:49.150 00:13:52.339 Anne: so you can just pull out the categories here.

163 00:13:53.900 00:13:54.370 Abdelhalim: Yeah.

164 00:13:54.370 00:13:59.790 Anne: And then, yeah. And as for the implementation, if it’s or.

165 00:14:00.860 00:14:04.430 Abdelhalim: Did you use fin-fence weight filters.

166 00:14:05.700 00:14:07.675 Abdelhalim: or any kind of filters?

167 00:14:08.400 00:14:10.480 Anne: We can use that. But

168 00:14:11.398 00:14:14.510 Anne: if you can see in the live site

169 00:14:14.570 00:14:17.219 Anne: for the homepage of the brain porch.

170 00:14:17.490 00:14:22.029 Anne: we have that kind of features as well. But

171 00:14:23.490 00:14:25.439 Anne: here you can multi select.

172 00:14:26.550 00:14:29.449 Anne: But my preference is, I don’t want to have that.

173 00:14:29.890 00:14:32.010 Anne: Maybe we can just select one

174 00:14:32.580 00:14:33.790 Anne: filter.

175 00:14:35.930 00:14:38.369 Abdelhalim: Yeah, I’m looking at the home page.

176 00:14:40.200 00:14:40.890 Abdelhalim: Okay?

177 00:14:42.832 00:14:47.039 Abdelhalim: Yeah, you have it. We can reuse the same component. Yeah.

178 00:14:48.040 00:14:50.990 Anne: Yeah. But let’s just remove

179 00:14:51.350 00:14:52.900 Anne: multi selection.

180 00:14:53.090 00:14:55.810 Anne: If that’s okay with you. With them.

181 00:14:56.370 00:14:58.769 Abdelhalim: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it’s okay.

182 00:15:00.360 00:15:01.030 Abdelhalim: Okay

183 00:15:02.530 00:15:03.310 Abdelhalim: thing.

184 00:15:03.560 00:15:05.399 Abdelhalim: Can I add a comment here.

185 00:15:05.780 00:15:07.100 Abdelhalim: just for myself.

186 00:15:29.560 00:15:35.300 Abdelhalim: So do you already have the Cms or the collection, I mean, or.

187 00:15:35.300 00:15:35.910 Anne: Yep.

188 00:15:36.180 00:15:38.017 Anne: we already have.

189 00:15:38.680 00:15:42.090 Anne: blogs. Cms in web flow.

190 00:15:42.280 00:15:46.789 Anne: and then for this, maybe, we can hide the

191 00:15:47.990 00:15:50.319 Anne: writer or the author.

192 00:15:51.530 00:15:52.640 Anne: for now.

193 00:15:54.080 00:15:54.513 Abdelhalim: You know.

194 00:15:56.610 00:16:01.510 Anne: Okay? And then for this page, it’s it’s clickable.

195 00:16:01.570 00:16:03.859 Anne: This whole deal, or contained.

196 00:16:04.470 00:16:07.789 Abdelhalim: The the whole. The whole thing is a is a link. Yeah.

197 00:16:08.210 00:16:09.030 Anne: Yup! Yup!

198 00:16:09.920 00:16:10.440 Uttam Kumaran: And then.

199 00:16:10.440 00:16:10.790 Abdelhalim: No.

200 00:16:10.790 00:16:19.560 Uttam Kumaran: Is there anything? Is there any way to do the the 5 min read like? Is there any way to do that dynamically, or is that something we should fill out for every page.

201 00:16:21.000 00:16:22.150 Abdelhalim: Hmm.

202 00:16:22.380 00:16:28.279 Abdelhalim: no, I think you should do it manually. You should enter it into Cms. Yeah.

203 00:16:28.550 00:16:29.490 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Okay.

204 00:16:30.140 00:16:32.840 Abdelhalim: I did. There is a way around it, but it’s not working.

205 00:16:32.840 00:16:36.780 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, if I don’t, if it takes more than 5 seconds, I don’t let’s not.

206 00:16:36.780 00:16:37.966 Abdelhalim: Exactly. Yeah.

207 00:16:38.800 00:16:44.909 Uttam Kumaran: That’s gonna be my. Also, that’s gonna be my question every time. Cause I’m gonna ask, cause I’m gonna ask. But

208 00:16:45.180 00:16:46.900 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, if it’s complicated.

209 00:16:46.920 00:16:49.649 Uttam Kumaran: Just be like, that’s complicated because I don’t.

210 00:16:49.650 00:16:50.110 Abdelhalim: Yeah.

211 00:16:50.110 00:16:54.100 Uttam Kumaran: There’s some things I care a lot about. There’s some things I don’t really like care at all about.

212 00:16:56.430 00:16:59.329 Abdelhalim: So and for for the load more.

213 00:16:59.880 00:17:00.490 Abdelhalim: Okay? So.

214 00:17:00.490 00:17:07.780 Anne: So for the load, more I think you don’t want it. When you scroll it will automatically load articles.

215 00:17:08.190 00:17:12.009 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I thought, like, I thought, auto scroll is a better.

216 00:17:12.980 00:17:15.166 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know. I feel like it’s a better

217 00:17:16.339 00:17:19.619 Uttam Kumaran: just usability, because they could be anywhere on this, and and scroll.

218 00:17:23.020 00:17:34.199 Abdelhalim: I’m just worried about like if you made it infinite scroll, you will keep scrolling till the like. If you have lots of blocks. You will not reach this section until you

219 00:17:34.210 00:17:36.829 Abdelhalim: pass all of the blocks.

220 00:17:36.830 00:17:37.980 Uttam Kumaran: Oh.

221 00:17:39.640 00:17:40.380 Uttam Kumaran: I see!

222 00:17:40.380 00:17:44.579 Abdelhalim: Having the load more button it gives you control over it.

223 00:17:47.610 00:17:48.500 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

224 00:17:49.740 00:17:52.849 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I guess I’ll have to. I want to see how some other

225 00:17:53.810 00:18:04.269 Uttam Kumaran: folks do it. Because, yeah, I mean, you’re right. But I’m not trying. I don’t know how they get around it. I guess maybe they have it, Con. They probably have it contained in something, and then they have external places where you can scroll.

226 00:18:04.930 00:18:06.920 Uttam Kumaran: I see what you mean. I’m not attached to. I’m not.

227 00:18:06.920 00:18:09.099 Abdelhalim: They do it like this in?

228 00:18:09.270 00:18:12.370 Abdelhalim: Yeah, they do it like this in e-commerce, usually

229 00:18:12.710 00:18:14.439 Abdelhalim: in in a container.

230 00:18:14.880 00:18:18.959 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, yeah. For and for the glossary, I think it’s

231 00:18:19.380 00:18:21.390 Uttam Kumaran: we should do a scroll because

232 00:18:21.600 00:18:24.030 Uttam Kumaran: there is an end. But I think here.

233 00:18:25.160 00:18:26.650 Uttam Kumaran: I’m okay with a loan more

234 00:18:26.900 00:18:27.440 Uttam Kumaran: like that’s.

235 00:18:27.440 00:18:28.410 Anne: Okay. Okay.

236 00:18:29.740 00:18:33.070 Abdelhalim: Okay, shall it load 6 or another? 9.

237 00:18:36.000 00:18:38.279 Uttam Kumaran: Can we do another 6?

238 00:18:39.700 00:18:40.250 Abdelhalim: Yeah.

239 00:18:42.280 00:18:44.350 Uttam Kumaran: That way. It doesn’t completely swamp

240 00:18:44.590 00:18:45.590 Uttam Kumaran: the rest.

241 00:18:50.140 00:18:50.580 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

242 00:18:54.880 00:18:58.089 Anne: For this one for the AI stories. We haven’t

243 00:19:00.980 00:19:03.019 Anne: finalize this one. You’re done

244 00:19:04.040 00:19:04.840 Anne: what.

245 00:19:04.840 00:19:05.510 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

246 00:19:05.510 00:19:06.719 Anne: And they want it to be.

247 00:19:10.650 00:19:13.625 Abdelhalim: I imagine this is

248 00:19:14.780 00:19:19.220 Abdelhalim: like similar to blocks, but these are something like featured or.

249 00:19:21.250 00:19:23.979 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, it’s feature. Well, at the top. We have featured

250 00:19:25.750 00:19:28.919 Uttam Kumaran: the top we had featured on the bottom here, and then we have.

251 00:19:29.120 00:19:31.050 Uttam Kumaran: I wonder if we should do.

252 00:19:31.740 00:19:35.319 Uttam Kumaran: I wonder if we just do case studies here? And because.

253 00:19:35.320 00:19:35.880 Anne: Okay.

254 00:19:35.880 00:19:38.340 Uttam Kumaran: Way we can direct people to another

255 00:19:38.680 00:19:45.339 Uttam Kumaran: type of, because otherwise, then it’s 3 areas about blogs. Instead. Let’s do case studies. We’ll use the case. Study collection here.

256 00:19:47.690 00:19:48.510 Anne: Okay.

257 00:19:49.170 00:19:55.009 Anne: I’ll just change this one to paste and update the images.

258 00:19:55.340 00:19:55.920 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

259 00:20:02.160 00:20:03.979 Abdelhalim: Okay, cool. Do you.

260 00:20:03.980 00:20:06.190 Anne: Inside. Page. Sorry.

261 00:20:06.570 00:20:08.575 Abdelhalim: Sorry it did you wish to

262 00:20:09.410 00:20:15.620 Abdelhalim: limit this to one line or something? I mean, do you? Do you have a limit when you add cases, study titles.

263 00:20:15.820 00:20:19.040 Uttam Kumaran: I think there is already a limit. If not, we should enforce

264 00:20:19.602 00:20:28.349 Uttam Kumaran: because this is, I think probably we’re gonna have the same problem on the blog is we don’t have any. We don’t have any string length enforcement now.

265 00:20:28.490 00:20:30.606 Uttam Kumaran: so we can do that

266 00:20:31.130 00:20:33.325 Uttam Kumaran: And that way I can give that to the

267 00:20:34.080 00:20:37.209 Uttam Kumaran: our content person to establish.

268 00:20:37.410 00:20:38.340 Uttam Kumaran: I

269 00:20:38.540 00:20:42.149 Uttam Kumaran: I we don’t. I don’t think we. We have a limit currently.

270 00:20:43.570 00:20:47.180 Uttam Kumaran: so let’s see, I don’t mind it being

271 00:20:47.430 00:20:51.500 Uttam Kumaran: do lines. But also I we I would rather us know what the limit is.

272 00:20:51.828 00:20:55.440 Uttam Kumaran: Cause we yeah that way. We can give it to edit the editing team.

273 00:20:56.210 00:21:04.950 Abdelhalim: Yeah. So some people do it with 2 fields. So they have the the block title and stuff, and they have a short title only for the card.

274 00:21:05.230 00:21:06.020 Abdelhalim: Okay.

275 00:21:06.220 00:21:08.859 Abdelhalim: but that’s more work for the content team, for sure.

276 00:21:15.280 00:21:17.210 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I am not

277 00:21:17.880 00:21:22.509 Uttam Kumaran: very opinionated. We do. If you look at the blogs we do have.

278 00:21:23.070 00:21:25.740 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, let me just go check. I don’t. I think we do have a.

279 00:21:26.880 00:21:31.689 Uttam Kumaran: We do have our title, and then I think we have a sub header. I don’t remember what we have right now.

280 00:21:34.470 00:21:37.190 Uttam Kumaran: No, we don’t have any subheader. We just have the title.

281 00:21:40.370 00:21:42.129 Uttam Kumaran: let’s just go with the title.

282 00:21:43.390 00:21:44.600 Uttam Kumaran: and then

283 00:21:44.840 00:21:51.060 Uttam Kumaran: let me know if let me know when you when you’re able to decide what the what the Max length is.

284 00:21:51.110 00:21:53.400 Uttam Kumaran: and then we’ll enforce that moving forward

285 00:21:53.760 00:21:58.909 Uttam Kumaran: cause we’re gonna basically have probably a lot of these components everywhere where we we basically repurpose and

286 00:21:59.060 00:22:03.479 Uttam Kumaran: display. So I just wanna make sure that we don’t mess that up.

287 00:22:05.340 00:22:06.240 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah.

288 00:22:06.240 00:22:07.330 Abdelhalim: Makes sense.

289 00:22:14.968 00:22:19.630 Abdelhalim: I think the last 2 sections are just components you already.

290 00:22:19.630 00:22:22.199 Anne: Yeah, yeah, we already have that

291 00:22:22.320 00:22:25.719 Anne: 3. And then for the inside page.

292 00:22:25.770 00:22:27.980 Anne: this is the pictured image.

293 00:22:30.395 00:22:31.030 Anne: Yep.

294 00:22:32.230 00:22:34.699 Anne: And then for the blog.

295 00:22:35.010 00:22:40.739 Anne: it’s con content. 30 from real. You can see on the

296 00:22:40.840 00:22:42.559 Anne: stay. Yours, bye.

297 00:22:43.690 00:22:45.510 Anne: So you know where to.

298 00:22:46.750 00:22:47.330 Abdelhalim: Hmm.

299 00:22:47.690 00:22:48.810 Anne: The component.

300 00:22:49.360 00:22:51.200 Anne: So it’s 30.

301 00:22:55.050 00:22:57.320 Abdelhalim: Sorry. What! What are these tags.

302 00:23:00.290 00:23:02.489 Anne: These ones are categories.

303 00:23:03.230 00:23:05.390 Anne: Or maybe it’s for seos

304 00:23:06.130 00:23:08.390 Anne: very single words.

305 00:23:08.560 00:23:12.110 Anne: Maybe we can just add another field on the blog

306 00:23:12.330 00:23:13.730 Anne: for these ones.

307 00:23:13.860 00:23:15.270 Abdelhalim: Vertex. Yeah.

308 00:23:15.670 00:23:16.270 Anne: Yeah.

309 00:23:18.900 00:23:22.839 Abdelhalim: But what you will, you will have to create a new collection for tags

310 00:23:23.100 00:23:25.830 Abdelhalim: and add this as a multi reference.

311 00:23:32.150 00:23:34.160 Abdelhalim: Maybe we can just use the categories.

312 00:23:37.418 00:23:42.359 Anne: What do you think? You tell me, is it going to be categories or

313 00:23:42.820 00:23:44.370 Anne: custom tags?

314 00:23:45.030 00:23:51.699 Uttam Kumaran: I would prefer it to be categories because we don’t have any tags, and I don’t want to start creating like a ton of free tags

315 00:23:51.830 00:23:56.040 Uttam Kumaran: before we have a strategy, because at the moment we’re not, we’re not using any.

316 00:23:56.210 00:23:59.180 Uttam Kumaran: This is the only place that the tags are displayed.

317 00:23:59.230 00:24:01.880 Uttam Kumaran: So I prefer if we just had the category here.

318 00:24:05.850 00:24:13.620 Uttam Kumaran: I I think that’s best, or we leave this in design. But then we don’t implement it, because I know we already have the category up top.

319 00:24:14.235 00:24:14.550 Uttam Kumaran: But.

320 00:24:14.820 00:24:16.030 Abdelhalim: Yeah, for me.

321 00:24:16.030 00:24:22.959 Uttam Kumaran: Until until I have an idea of like how cause the the free text tags. For example, there’s a lot of sites where you’re like you click on the tag. There’s only one article.

322 00:24:23.170 00:24:26.990 Uttam Kumaran: so it’s like, that’s kind of a waste to even like. Add one tag for one article.

323 00:24:27.844 00:24:28.589 Uttam Kumaran: And

324 00:24:28.940 00:24:35.049 Uttam Kumaran: we don’t. I don’t have enough of a structure to know like how we’re gonna do the tag naming convention. So I’m kind of like, oh.

325 00:24:35.200 00:24:36.609 Uttam Kumaran: not too attached to it.

326 00:24:37.840 00:24:47.320 Abdelhalim: So that there might be an issue with the Ca with the category here, because, we are, we are assigning multiple to each block.

327 00:24:47.320 00:24:48.959 Uttam Kumaran: There’ll just be one category.

328 00:24:49.510 00:24:52.310 Abdelhalim: Yeah, so which one should we prioritize?

329 00:24:52.310 00:25:07.729 Uttam Kumaran: So. And maybe we just maybe we can. We? Maybe we leave the tags in the design. But we don’t implement it because I I actually think I like it, and we may use it in the future. But leave leave this category, and then maybe we leave this as tags. But maybe Helene just don’t implement the tags.

330 00:25:10.770 00:25:12.110 Anne: Hmm.

331 00:25:12.740 00:25:16.640 Uttam Kumaran: Like. Don’t don’t implement this, or just leave it as the category.

332 00:25:17.040 00:25:23.339 Uttam Kumaran: because I think eventually we may add, we may have blog category and some sort of tags, because.

333 00:25:23.380 00:25:27.600 Uttam Kumaran: for example, we may have multiple piece of content. We have services, we have blogs.

334 00:25:27.600 00:25:28.130 Anne: Hmm.

335 00:25:28.130 00:25:31.260 Uttam Kumaran: And we may have industries.

336 00:25:31.290 00:25:36.740 Uttam Kumaran: We may have other documents, glossaries that we all tag so multi object tags.

337 00:25:36.820 00:25:38.980 Uttam Kumaran: but I’m kind of like don’t care.

338 00:25:39.100 00:25:41.070 Uttam Kumaran: It’s not important right now.

339 00:25:42.730 00:25:49.540 Abdelhalim: Okay. So if you followed me. So these are categories. But these labels are

340 00:25:49.830 00:25:52.859 Abdelhalim: something else. We were not showing this now, right.

341 00:25:53.410 00:25:54.420 Uttam Kumaran: So.

342 00:25:57.390 00:26:01.939 Uttam Kumaran: these are about, these are about, yeah, I guess. Good question. So

343 00:26:02.360 00:26:09.519 Uttam Kumaran: there are like, these are like technology categories. Almost, I think this is a different. This is a different category than this.

344 00:26:10.495 00:26:15.049 Uttam Kumaran: But I may ask, I may, and I may need to ask Nico to

345 00:26:15.460 00:26:16.630 Uttam Kumaran: to check on that.

346 00:26:17.870 00:26:18.870 Anne: Okay. Okay.

347 00:26:19.060 00:26:23.860 Uttam Kumaran: Let me just put a comment here. But I can. Yeah, if you can just comment and say, ask Nico.

348 00:26:24.300 00:26:32.199 Uttam Kumaran: cause he’s the one that, I think, has a little bit of a better idea. Nico is on our team, who runs our data side of the business. So.

349 00:26:42.040 00:26:46.749 Abdelhalim: So these are supposed to be categories as well, right? Similar to the tabs

350 00:26:49.220 00:26:51.859 Abdelhalim: or er still.

351 00:26:52.070 00:26:54.940 Abdelhalim: yeah, you’re still need to discuss with.

352 00:26:55.400 00:26:57.500 Uttam Kumaran: So these are like there. So we have like

353 00:26:57.510 00:26:59.730 Uttam Kumaran: technologies that we use

354 00:27:00.120 00:27:02.429 Uttam Kumaran: in addition to

355 00:27:03.089 00:27:07.239 Uttam Kumaran: like. So this is, this is almost like service categories. And then we have the blog

356 00:27:07.560 00:27:09.070 Uttam Kumaran: industry category.

357 00:27:09.190 00:27:11.079 Uttam Kumaran: You see what I mean like, these are.

358 00:27:11.080 00:27:11.620 Abdelhalim: Like industry.

359 00:27:11.620 00:27:15.250 Uttam Kumaran: Categories. And then for this industry, for this customer we

360 00:27:15.350 00:27:19.709 Uttam Kumaran: or like for this blog, we, they are like about these topics.

361 00:27:20.020 00:27:23.232 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know. Maybe we need to create almost a hierarchy like

362 00:27:24.220 00:27:26.839 Uttam Kumaran: area, and just kind of map it out a little bit. But

363 00:27:28.810 00:27:31.680 Uttam Kumaran: again, I I think, like the core thing is

364 00:27:32.070 00:27:37.759 Uttam Kumaran: the core thing is getting the pages design. If there are elements here that are still kind of confusing, just note it down

365 00:27:38.610 00:27:39.820 Uttam Kumaran: back to it. Yeah.

366 00:27:39.820 00:27:40.470 Abdelhalim: Yeah.

367 00:27:42.220 00:27:42.880 Abdelhalim: yeah.

368 00:27:45.680 00:27:46.650 Abdelhalim: okay.

369 00:27:49.200 00:27:57.299 Abdelhalim: So coming back to this page, related, posts are those with the same within the same category. Right?

370 00:27:58.440 00:27:59.170 Abdelhalim: Yep.

371 00:28:01.160 00:28:03.470 Abdelhalim: And yeah, I think that’s it.

372 00:28:04.870 00:28:06.739 Abdelhalim: Nothing complicated.

373 00:28:14.270 00:28:15.180 Abdelhalim: Okay?

374 00:28:22.902 00:28:27.100 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, yeah. I mean, I don’t know if maybe I know we’re just over time. But

375 00:28:27.470 00:28:31.710 Uttam Kumaran: did we want? Do you want to go through the rest of the site, or maybe

376 00:28:32.404 00:28:36.300 Uttam Kumaran: helium, you can go through it and ask any questions, or

377 00:28:37.570 00:28:39.649 Uttam Kumaran: I mean I I still have time. But.

378 00:28:40.600 00:28:57.559 Abdelhalim: Yeah, I I can. Just if you invited me to slack, I can just follow up. If if there is any question, just invite me to the web, forward, space and slack, and I will follow up. I think it like the the designs are ready to be implemented straight away.

379 00:28:57.560 00:29:00.820 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so let me get you on slack and webflow right after this.

380 00:29:00.870 00:29:04.629 Uttam Kumaran: and then I’ll also chat with you. About like contract and everything.

381 00:29:05.200 00:29:16.419 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, I was gonna ask, like, all of us on the call, are actually in different areas, like, I’m here in us and is in Philippines. You’re in Egypt. I was actually just in Egypt last year.

382 00:29:16.680 00:29:17.620 Uttam Kumaran: I loved it.

383 00:29:17.620 00:29:18.480 Abdelhalim: Really.

384 00:29:18.480 00:29:19.550 Uttam Kumaran: Amazing.

385 00:29:20.620 00:29:23.010 Abdelhalim: Which cities did he? Did he visit.

386 00:29:23.010 00:29:27.540 Uttam Kumaran: We went to we went to Cairo, went to Luxor, went to Aswan.

387 00:29:27.590 00:29:34.129 Uttam Kumaran: We did like one of the Nile cruises. My! My friend. His grandfather is Egyptian, and he took us

388 00:29:35.790 00:29:40.119 Uttam Kumaran: He’s like a doctor, and here in here in the Us. And like we went kind of went everywhere

389 00:29:40.390 00:29:43.382 Uttam Kumaran: and beautiful, amazing.

390 00:29:46.390 00:29:51.479 Abdelhalim: Yeah, it’s it’s the right time to come now in in the winter.

391 00:29:51.990 00:29:52.850 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

392 00:29:53.180 00:29:56.379 Uttam Kumaran: I think we came in February last year. So it was nice.

393 00:29:56.750 00:29:57.460 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

394 00:29:58.898 00:30:02.320 Uttam Kumaran: so yeah, I guess I just wanted to ask, like are, what is your usual

395 00:30:02.958 00:30:06.519 Uttam Kumaran: like timing in terms of working hours.

396 00:30:08.330 00:30:10.772 Abdelhalim: Think usually I will be working

397 00:30:11.390 00:30:13.660 Abdelhalim: in the 9, th because

398 00:30:13.870 00:30:16.175 Abdelhalim: I I already have my own

399 00:30:16.630 00:30:19.440 Abdelhalim: full time kind of full time job

400 00:30:20.103 00:30:23.730 Abdelhalim: so usually around this time I will be starting.

401 00:30:24.210 00:30:24.790 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

402 00:30:25.040 00:30:34.519 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. Alright. That’s that’s perfect for me. And then I know, and is probably like getting late her time. But usually we chat around the morning, maybe like an hour or 2 before this.

403 00:30:35.120 00:30:37.679 Uttam Kumaran: But also everything we do in slack, so

404 00:30:37.920 00:30:38.840 Uttam Kumaran: like

405 00:30:39.320 00:30:47.760 Uttam Kumaran: as much as we can do Async and also loom. If you, if you want access to our loom account, you want to send loom videos or voice, or whatever

406 00:30:48.499 00:30:50.249 Uttam Kumaran: feel free. Yeah. So whatever.

407 00:30:50.250 00:30:51.179 Abdelhalim: Is the best way to.

408 00:30:51.180 00:31:01.119 Uttam Kumaran: We don’t. Yeah, we don’t need to hop on the calls all the time, but the other thing is we we do weekly team meetings on Monday and Friday, if you want to join and like, hear about the rest of the company and stuff

409 00:31:02.740 00:31:03.659 Uttam Kumaran: up to you.

410 00:31:04.119 00:31:14.230 Uttam Kumaran: I can add you there and then, if you’re interested in hearing about all the other stuff we’re going on. But also I’ll introduce you. If you join there, or when I add you to the Channel, introduce you to everyone as well.

411 00:31:14.633 00:31:18.840 Uttam Kumaran: And feel, please feel free to ask everyone else questions. I am the

412 00:31:18.960 00:31:21.769 Uttam Kumaran: unfortunately the busiest. I think

413 00:31:21.880 00:31:33.920 Uttam Kumaran: so. I may not be the best person to rely on for stuff. So I wanna make sure that you have access to everyone else in the company, anything around content or design, inspiration.

414 00:31:34.258 00:31:36.489 Uttam Kumaran: Whatever you have access to people so.

415 00:31:37.440 00:31:42.979 Abdelhalim: Yeah, don’t worry. I will just add me to slack, and I will be bothering your team all the time.

416 00:31:42.980 00:31:45.320 Uttam Kumaran: Good. Good. Okay.

417 00:31:45.870 00:31:48.649 Uttam Kumaran: Alright, thanks, guys. I really appreciate it.

418 00:31:49.530 00:31:50.839 Anne: Thank you. Thank you. Bye.

419 00:31:50.840 00:31:51.740 Abdelhalim: Nice to meet you both.

420 00:31:51.740 00:31:52.340 Anne: Seeing you.

421 00:31:52.340 00:31:52.960 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, nice.

422 00:31:52.960 00:31:54.010 Abdelhalim: Have a nice day.

423 00:31:54.620 00:31:55.350 Anne: Bye.

424 00:31:55.350 00:31:55.870 Abdelhalim: Bye.