Meeting Title: Brainforge-Exec-Meeting Date: 2024-10-18 Meeting participants: Joshua De Veyra, Nicolas Sucari, Uttam Kumaran


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1 00:00:14.870 00:00:16.280 Nicolas Sucari: Cool.

2 00:00:17.130 00:00:20.740 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. So I think, I think the big

3 00:00:21.160 00:00:23.199 Uttam Kumaran: things I wanted to.

4 00:00:26.310 00:00:27.980 Uttam Kumaran: chat about.

5 00:00:28.300 00:00:28.655 Uttam Kumaran: Bye.

6 00:00:32.970 00:00:39.849 Uttam Kumaran: yeah. So a couple of things. So yeah, I think one. We should decide, I think, first, st like, when we want to have these meetings.

7 00:00:40.518 00:00:42.669 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, I think the 3 of us.

8 00:00:42.710 00:00:44.389 Uttam Kumaran: It’d be helpful to talk

9 00:00:44.600 00:00:45.779 Uttam Kumaran: like as much

10 00:00:46.620 00:00:47.550 Uttam Kumaran: as.

11 00:00:47.550 00:00:48.180 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah.

12 00:00:50.450 00:00:52.430 Uttam Kumaran: So what do you guys think? I mean?

13 00:00:52.950 00:00:58.579 Uttam Kumaran: I know, Miguel, it’s kind of like late for you at this time, but maybe we do something in the mornings?

14 00:00:59.760 00:01:03.669 Joshua de Veyra: No, I think this is fine. I usually sleep around 3 4 am. Anyways.

15 00:01:04.290 00:01:06.030 Joshua de Veyra: I don’t. Wanna you know.

16 00:01:09.160 00:01:14.439 Uttam Kumaran: So maybe we do around like yeah, 10 or 11, or in the morning. Maybe I can send something.

17 00:01:14.620 00:01:20.668 Uttam Kumaran: I think, at least for the next week or 2 it’d be good just to be in sync about like what things are going on.

18 00:01:22.010 00:01:25.005 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, I guess let’s talk about

19 00:01:26.880 00:01:32.757 Uttam Kumaran: let’s talk about this week. So on the data side, we have

20 00:01:33.410 00:01:42.610 Uttam Kumaran: javi, and by the coke and pool parts that’s going fine. We have a meeting on Monday about real like real feedback.

21 00:01:42.650 00:02:06.301 Uttam Kumaran: I have to write down our feedback in a doc. It probably take me 1020 min to do. But yeah, I guess, Nico, for that call, basically just trying to find out like whether we can, they want us to keep doing stuff for them. I think they feedback about the timing and stuff like that. That’s fine, like we we just cannot knowledge. But you know, I think let’s see like if they have other opportunities for us.

22 00:02:07.030 00:02:07.939 Uttam Kumaran: in terms of.

23 00:02:07.940 00:02:11.940 Nicolas Sucari: I mean, we sorry for about that project we

24 00:02:12.020 00:02:22.489 Nicolas Sucari: like we did the the 2 dashboards that they were asking with all of the modeling and that kind of stuff, and we haven’t received like so much feedback on those tables.

25 00:02:22.893 00:02:27.889 Nicolas Sucari: So yeah, I don’t know if we like, if there is anything else to do

26 00:02:28.100 00:02:29.609 Nicolas Sucari: for now, and

27 00:02:29.650 00:02:32.610 Nicolas Sucari: or if we should be doing anything else

28 00:02:33.010 00:02:35.069 Nicolas Sucari: for that meeting, I don’t think so.

29 00:02:35.890 00:02:40.605 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, nothing for that meeting. I think we’re just gonna have a conversation with them. And then I want you to meet

30 00:02:41.020 00:02:45.009 Uttam Kumaran: on that call will be their CEO and their CTO as well. So all of us will talk

31 00:02:45.030 00:02:46.270 Uttam Kumaran: excellent.

32 00:02:46.890 00:02:49.777 Uttam Kumaran: And then on the AI side. So

33 00:02:50.680 00:02:56.726 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, my God, I had a great conversation with the head of AI crocs.

34 00:02:58.230 00:03:11.080 Uttam Kumaran: it’s like, really, really good. It’s really really good. I mean, he went like a million 1 million miles an hour. But basically, I told him what we do. And he was very interested in the in the AI side. He was basically like.

35 00:03:11.610 00:03:12.979 Uttam Kumaran: he’s basically like.

36 00:03:14.320 00:03:28.170 Uttam Kumaran: you guys can do anything in automation. I’m like, sure. And they have a bunch of things they need on the shipping side on the internal content side. And he’s gonna introduce me to their their head of operations. And basically they want us to.

37 00:03:28.340 00:03:47.798 Uttam Kumaran: They want to utilize us to work on small proof of concepts for them. For example, if they’re like, Hey, can we automate this small thing we basically share like, Hey, it can be possible, and they can take it within their team to try to like, actually operationalize it. Because prox is like a huge company. They just don’t have that can work like as fast as us.

38 00:03:48.420 00:04:15.919 Uttam Kumaran: so that was a really really good call. I’m gonna see? Like how where that goes. But really exciting the next call with them. I’ll include you. So I think that maybe on Monday or Tuesday I was like I was he. They don’t have any clue about any n they’re like, can you do zapier stuff? I’m like, yeah, that’s very easy. But so that’s why I wrote the Wiki for them, because I wanted just to share that with them. And I think that’s a good thing for us to even publish but

39 00:04:16.089 00:04:42.820 Uttam Kumaran: basically, I was like, Come, try to come across as just like, Hey, we’re experts, and we do a lot of things where we kind of just like find the tools necessary to do it. And so I think that was a really great call. I had a call with another manufacturing company and on Tuesday for data, and she’s introducing me to some other people. So, Nika, I may include you on that when when those meetings get booked

40 00:04:45.190 00:04:46.660 Uttam Kumaran: trying to think on

41 00:04:48.120 00:05:08.372 Uttam Kumaran: anything else. Yeah. The so 2 other things. One is so we’re using. Hey, reach for Linkedin outbound and I invited both. You guys, would you guys be? I think I might have asked you guys. But you guys would be okay to use your Linkedin account for outbound basically, what that means is like make

42 00:05:09.310 00:05:38.264 Uttam Kumaran: Eric’s team will be stuff like through our accounts after we email, someone as part of the sequence, we send them a Linkedin connection. And then basically say, Hey, like for so and so like, we sent you this. The nice thing I think, is we’ll we can only do like about 40 of those a day right now, because it’s just through my account. So I think we’d be able to hit higher volume. And the nice thing is, we can all start to kind of field requests from people. So I invited you to. Hey, reach, if you guys can add your

43 00:05:38.540 00:05:39.210 Joshua de Veyra: Linkedin.

44 00:05:39.210 00:05:40.860 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I, just

45 00:05:41.040 00:05:42.400 Nicolas Sucari: I just access.

46 00:05:42.400 00:05:43.850 Joshua de Veyra: Fix my Linkedin first.st

47 00:05:43.850 00:05:48.579 Uttam Kumaran: That’s also the thing I wanna make sure that we’re all of us have, like our linkedins.

48 00:05:48.620 00:05:51.169 Uttam Kumaran: look like full of stuff.

49 00:05:51.780 00:05:58.189 Uttam Kumaran: So if you, I would just try to like you can look at mine and kind of like, just take Inspo from, because I just

50 00:05:58.460 00:06:00.090 Uttam Kumaran: mine is like filled with

51 00:06:00.650 00:06:12.140 Uttam Kumaran: with shit, basically but basically see if you can get like a brain forge header, I think. And and there’s some stuff in figma for the social titles. But

52 00:06:13.500 00:06:27.841 Uttam Kumaran: just feel free to change your titles like the head of platform head of the data platform or the data practice head of data practice AI practice. And then, yeah, just make sure that you guys have stuff on there so that people will.

53 00:06:28.870 00:06:32.220 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, basically, they’re gonna see your your thing when they

54 00:06:32.770 00:06:34.849 Uttam Kumaran: when you message them so.

55 00:06:36.960 00:06:37.400 Nicolas Sucari: Yes.

56 00:06:37.400 00:06:40.806 Uttam Kumaran: Miguel. You need to. And did some, Miguel. Someone told me that.

57 00:06:41.440 00:06:45.019 Uttam Kumaran: you need a better picture dude. You need a picture that isn’t just like you look like a

58 00:06:45.110 00:06:46.939 Uttam Kumaran: like a soldier. Basically.

59 00:06:48.570 00:06:50.344 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, like a casual photo dude.

60 00:06:52.390 00:06:55.100 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, I’ll I’ll probably take one on Monday.

61 00:06:55.480 00:06:59.410 Uttam Kumaran: Just get a photo of you like sitting at a sitting at like a restaurant or something.

62 00:07:01.540 00:07:08.299 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, sure, sure I’ll I’ll try to find one, because, honestly, that’s why I don’t even have socials. So I don’t post anything at all.

63 00:07:08.560 00:07:09.330 Uttam Kumaran: This one I.

64 00:07:09.330 00:07:10.760 Joshua de Veyra: That for my passport.

65 00:07:10.760 00:07:16.380 Uttam Kumaran: I’m demanding. You ask your friend when you’re out this weekend having fun. Ask someone to take a picture of you.

66 00:07:17.070 00:07:18.390 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, yeah, I’ll do that.

67 00:07:18.390 00:07:20.300 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, behind some like nice

68 00:07:20.510 00:07:21.320 Uttam Kumaran: like.

69 00:07:21.320 00:07:21.960 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, yeah.

70 00:07:24.420 00:07:25.676 Joshua de Veyra: yeah. I’ll do that.

71 00:07:25.990 00:07:26.683 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool.

72 00:07:29.320 00:07:32.079 Uttam Kumaran: great. And then I guess.

73 00:07:32.130 00:07:45.250 Uttam Kumaran: Miguel, I know you were talking about some opportunities on the AI side, like with the shipping company and stuff like that. We want to explore that next week. Do you want to try to plan something once we get content out like?

74 00:07:45.890 00:07:46.570 Uttam Kumaran: What do you offer?

75 00:07:46.570 00:07:48.469 Joshua de Veyra: Maybe I think it’s best.

76 00:07:48.660 00:07:51.060 Joshua de Veyra: once the content are out, I think.

77 00:07:51.180 00:07:54.060 Joshua de Veyra: cause they go to our website. And there’s no AI stuff there.

78 00:07:54.230 00:07:54.930 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

79 00:07:55.450 00:07:56.170 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah.

80 00:07:56.950 00:07:59.958 Uttam Kumaran: So I guess I also wanted to ask you about that like

81 00:08:03.040 00:08:03.900 Uttam Kumaran: like.

82 00:08:04.330 00:08:11.780 Uttam Kumaran: right now, we’re working on like kind of what to put here. But I’m thinking about having the copies do something about data. And AI

83 00:08:12.980 00:08:23.269 Uttam Kumaran: like, how do you guys think we should do that? I don’t really have. I didn’t really have like a good idea, because right now, all of it’s all of it’s it’s data, but we can start to layer on both.

84 00:08:25.150 00:08:26.720 Joshua de Veyra: Just avoid robots.

85 00:08:28.040 00:08:31.480 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I don’t. Wanna yeah. I guess I wanna do more like.

86 00:08:33.019 00:08:35.410 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I don’t know. I have to think about it.

87 00:08:36.049 00:08:36.939 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah.

88 00:08:37.830 00:08:40.589 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, we could also just have AI under services.

89 00:08:41.330 00:08:42.090 Uttam Kumaran: But.

90 00:08:44.480 00:08:44.835 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah,

91 00:08:47.440 00:08:50.639 Joshua de Veyra: yeah. And that’s something I think we have to talk and think about.

92 00:08:50.970 00:08:51.310 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

93 00:08:51.850 00:08:52.490 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, you.

94 00:08:52.940 00:09:02.020 Nicolas Sucari: I think we need to. Yeah, have everything under services, like in services. We need to have a special place for AI and another one for data, and maybe some other stuff.

95 00:09:05.470 00:09:06.039 Uttam Kumaran: And then something.

96 00:09:06.040 00:09:08.440 Nicolas Sucari: Can link all case studies and stuff

97 00:09:08.590 00:09:09.810 Nicolas Sucari: for you guys.

98 00:09:09.810 00:09:11.530 Uttam Kumaran: Somewhere here we’ll do

99 00:09:12.590 00:09:15.919 Uttam Kumaran: We’ll have like something about building agents or AI like

100 00:09:16.210 00:09:18.176 Uttam Kumaran: another like sort of section.

101 00:09:19.500 00:09:24.660 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah. And and the one that we have the Logos for the tools. I think we can like add.

102 00:09:24.690 00:09:30.150 Nicolas Sucari: we can replace some of them and have more kind of Logos for AI tools. Well known. AI tools.

103 00:09:30.320 00:09:31.950 Nicolas Sucari: What do you think if you go like scroll.

104 00:09:33.980 00:09:34.719 Uttam Kumaran: What do I mean?

105 00:09:34.720 00:09:35.330 Joshua de Veyra: And there.

106 00:09:36.270 00:09:36.650 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

107 00:09:36.650 00:09:37.449 Nicolas Sucari: And this one

108 00:09:37.640 00:09:50.209 Nicolas Sucari: because we have like, I mean, snowflake is really good to have a Dbt, maybe some of the visualization tools. But maybe we can replace 5 or 5 Channel looker for something related to AI.

109 00:09:51.050 00:09:54.089 Joshua de Veyra: Or what we can do is like, for example, like the top part.

110 00:09:54.090 00:09:54.920 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Dude.

111 00:09:54.920 00:10:01.880 Joshua de Veyra: Top part is data, and then the bottom part is AI, or maybe like, so it’s not top and bottom. It’s like left and right. I’m not sure how that will work, though.

112 00:10:02.080 00:10:04.509 Uttam Kumaran: It’ll be left brain and right brain sort of theme.

113 00:10:04.510 00:10:06.609 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, yeah, I think that could work.

114 00:10:07.490 00:10:08.110 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.

115 00:10:09.410 00:10:11.500 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, let me send an I wanna do that.

116 00:10:12.230 00:10:16.049 Joshua de Veyra: And then another thing I think I guess I wanted to talk about was

117 00:10:16.800 00:10:26.619 Joshua de Veyra: because in data, people know what they want to see right? Like big, we’re targeting big companies. So they already know what they want. But in AI, most of the time they don’t even know what they want.

118 00:10:26.990 00:10:27.929 Uttam Kumaran: That’s the thing.

119 00:10:27.930 00:10:30.360 Joshua de Veyra: We yeah, we need to work around there.

120 00:10:34.790 00:10:36.700 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s see, like what other companies

121 00:10:37.650 00:10:38.710 Uttam Kumaran: show up

122 00:10:55.430 00:10:57.290 Uttam Kumaran: too much text. But.

123 00:10:57.840 00:10:59.600 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, that much sucks. I’m not feeding. That

124 00:11:02.390 00:11:04.210 Joshua de Veyra: case. Studies is.

125 00:11:05.910 00:11:07.329 Uttam Kumaran: See, I like these guys.

126 00:11:11.100 00:11:13.730 Joshua de Veyra: Because usually like, at least from my experience.

127 00:11:13.890 00:11:20.310 Joshua de Veyra: like, you can’t really sell something to people they don’t understand. So that’s why I think most of it are products.

128 00:11:20.410 00:11:23.229 Joshua de Veyra: I guess. What we can do is our

129 00:11:23.330 00:11:27.169 Joshua de Veyra: we can send, we can, you know, offer something like, invite the cocoa.

130 00:11:27.190 00:11:33.719 Joshua de Veyra: the solution there and then the AI agent. Maybe we have like a demo. I’m not sure, though, like, for example.

131 00:11:34.020 00:11:35.589 Joshua de Veyra: what should we put there.

132 00:11:35.790 00:11:36.300 Uttam Kumaran: No, I.

133 00:11:36.300 00:11:36.940 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, but I.

134 00:11:38.360 00:11:39.460 Uttam Kumaran: Somewhere.

135 00:11:40.210 00:11:54.000 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I think if we have, like our AI Service page, where we can relate and try to explain what we can do for clients that would be good so that they can start understanding that, and then relate to all different case studies of things that we actually did.

136 00:11:54.672 00:12:11.119 Nicolas Sucari: So that are kind of examples. And maybe for in in that case studies, or also in the service page, the I service page, we can add, like, Yeah, recording or, yeah, demo recording for a minute of how we do things, or how an agent answers some questions that we

137 00:12:11.360 00:12:15.659 Nicolas Sucari: our setting. Yeah, showing how we are doing that that flows

138 00:12:15.700 00:12:18.109 Nicolas Sucari: of information. I don’t know something like that.

139 00:12:18.810 00:12:23.139 Uttam Kumaran: Well, basically, I think we should do one section per.

140 00:12:23.220 00:12:27.189 Uttam Kumaran: like, you know, in that AI wiki thing that I had.

141 00:12:30.130 00:12:31.200 Uttam Kumaran: Where is it? Somewhere.

142 00:12:38.480 00:12:44.750 Joshua de Veyra: Do you think it’s also possible for, like Eddie or someone from Vitaco, just give a testimonial or something, a video.

143 00:12:44.750 00:12:52.210 Uttam Kumaran: As soon as we’re done. I’m gonna ask for a testimonial. Next week I was. I actually asked him to come over for dinner. I was. Gonna ask him today. But

144 00:12:52.805 00:12:54.779 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll ask him next week.

145 00:12:56.180 00:12:59.130 Joshua de Veyra: So I think it’s going to the f. 1 should have went.

146 00:12:59.130 00:13:01.009 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, he’s out of town. He’s out of town so.

147 00:13:01.010 00:13:02.169 Joshua de Veyra: Oh, okay.

148 00:13:02.990 00:13:07.149 Joshua de Veyra: well, so I think I remember them. You mentioned about the crocs thing earlier.

149 00:13:07.150 00:13:07.620 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

150 00:13:07.620 00:13:13.750 Joshua de Veyra: So I think that could be like a good source of income. I tried doing that before. Basically Mvp building.

151 00:13:13.780 00:13:15.199 Joshua de Veyra: That’s what it is right.

152 00:13:15.400 00:13:16.180 Uttam Kumaran: Exactly.

153 00:13:16.180 00:13:26.850 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, I think that’s a good, you know market to come in because people don’t know what they want to build, but they want to build something so it could be like a service that we offer

154 00:13:26.870 00:13:29.740 Joshua de Veyra: right cause. We could probably build anything at this point.

155 00:13:29.880 00:13:31.499 Uttam Kumaran: That’s what I kind of told him.

156 00:13:31.540 00:13:32.880 Uttam Kumaran: And so

157 00:13:33.424 00:13:36.610 Uttam Kumaran: we almost need to have something like that, like

158 00:13:37.450 00:13:43.970 Uttam Kumaran: Mvp. Or like proof of concept like. Let us figure out what your proof of concept looks like.

159 00:13:44.640 00:13:45.310 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah.

160 00:13:45.520 00:13:46.400 Uttam Kumaran: Almost.

161 00:13:47.070 00:13:53.049 Joshua de Veyra: And it kind of works, because our branding is more of consultancy, right and not product. So I think that works really well with us.

162 00:13:54.280 00:13:56.030 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So it’s like.

163 00:13:59.660 00:14:03.169 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, let me like, let me let me just write something down about that.

164 00:14:07.400 00:14:11.180 Joshua de Veyra: And we can even what’s the name of the guy? Sorry again the

165 00:14:11.510 00:14:13.120 Joshua de Veyra: the guy, if I turn up Guy.

166 00:14:14.230 00:14:14.896 Uttam Kumaran: Which guy.

167 00:14:16.250 00:14:18.239 Joshua de Veyra: The one we talked to about a dating app.

168 00:14:19.220 00:14:20.760 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, Nick!

169 00:14:21.230 00:14:23.500 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, yeah, Nick, we can offer him like, Hey, you know.

170 00:14:23.820 00:14:26.869 Joshua de Veyra: But it will take 3 months at this amount a month.

171 00:14:26.870 00:14:27.640 Uttam Kumaran: What would you call them?

172 00:14:27.897 00:14:28.669 Joshua de Veyra: Vp for you.

173 00:14:28.670 00:14:30.160 Uttam Kumaran: Mvp. Like.

174 00:14:32.533 00:14:33.899 Joshua de Veyra: Basically an

175 00:14:35.420 00:14:37.280 Joshua de Veyra: Mvp.

176 00:14:37.780 00:14:41.509 Joshua de Veyra: is it Mvp build? Yeah, let’s not overthink the name. We can probably ask AI.

177 00:14:42.710 00:14:50.260 Nicolas Sucari: And it’s like of we, we, what do you want to do like ideate that Mvp for clients or try to

178 00:14:50.360 00:14:51.400 Nicolas Sucari: develop

179 00:14:51.940 00:14:56.160 Nicolas Sucari: design, develop? And yeah, deploy an Mvp as fast as possible. Right?

180 00:15:03.410 00:15:05.039 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, it’s like something like this

181 00:15:07.950 00:15:11.110 Uttam Kumaran: can describe what you want. But you don’t know if it’s possible. Right?

182 00:15:11.700 00:15:12.330 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah.

183 00:15:14.880 00:15:18.689 Joshua de Veyra: And then maybe people can just even come to us, right? Basically.

184 00:15:19.011 00:15:21.179 Joshua de Veyra: Hey, I have an idea that I want to.

185 00:15:21.180 00:15:24.719 Uttam Kumaran: That’s what I was telling him. He’s like, what can you do? And I’m like.

186 00:15:25.070 00:15:27.469 Uttam Kumaran: well, like, what do you need.

187 00:15:27.470 00:15:28.080 Nicolas Sucari: You think.

188 00:15:29.050 00:15:31.390 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, cause that’s we’re gonna be stuck in a limbo.

189 00:15:31.570 00:15:34.740 Uttam Kumaran: Well, also cause I was like, look, I can’t promise

190 00:15:34.940 00:15:36.230 Uttam Kumaran: that, like

191 00:15:36.810 00:15:48.369 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know. It’s tough, because I’m like we. I want to show as quickly as possible that something’s possible. And then we can talk about how to scale it up. Right? It’s basically similar. So yeah, let’s think about some getting something out around Mvp building.

192 00:15:53.580 00:16:00.968 Uttam Kumaran: This can be so we can have like A, we can have a service page on like Mvp building a service page around.

193 00:16:01.440 00:16:05.969 Uttam Kumaran: Basically like the the thing I was saying is, we have, we have on the AI Wiki.

194 00:16:06.000 00:16:06.966 Uttam Kumaran: we have

195 00:16:07.820 00:16:09.644 Uttam Kumaran: a bunch of other

196 00:16:10.480 00:16:11.799 Uttam Kumaran: what’s it called, like

197 00:16:11.950 00:16:17.400 Uttam Kumaran: the different areas. These could all be like services. Right? So we have.

198 00:16:17.400 00:16:18.280 Nicolas Sucari: Exactly.

199 00:16:20.180 00:16:25.329 Uttam Kumaran: Like, we have agents, we have go to market browsers.

200 00:16:25.410 00:16:27.799 Uttam Kumaran: Video search. Right? So like.

201 00:16:28.200 00:16:31.849 Uttam Kumaran: essentially like these will become the categories for

202 00:16:31.970 00:16:46.629 Uttam Kumaran: case studies and blog posts. The nice thing is, I will. I’m actually gonna just basically, I mean the nice thing for for Ryan on the content size. I’ll be like, go write a blog post about every single one of these categories, and then just make a list like

203 00:16:46.920 00:16:48.740 Uttam Kumaran: top 10 platforms.

204 00:16:49.010 00:16:49.780 Uttam Kumaran: Blah blah!

205 00:16:52.340 00:16:53.320 Joshua de Veyra: And

206 00:16:53.670 00:16:57.759 Joshua de Veyra: wait. We can consider quite a cocoa right? As like an Mvp.

207 00:16:58.450 00:16:59.310 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean.

208 00:16:59.310 00:16:59.970 Joshua de Veyra: Still 3 days.

209 00:17:00.400 00:17:00.830 Uttam Kumaran: Exactly.

210 00:17:00.830 00:17:05.689 Nicolas Sucari: That one, and also Hpi. I think I think we can consider Hpi.

211 00:17:05.690 00:17:10.429 Joshua de Veyra: Honestly, I want to. I’m at the point where I just want to build something for Hpa.

212 00:17:10.700 00:17:14.040 Uttam Kumaran: No, and then yes, Scott messaged me about. Scott said something about.

213 00:17:14.386 00:17:17.500 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, he wants to like a quick Ui stuff.

214 00:17:17.839 00:17:19.859 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, Nick, are you in that channel, too.

215 00:17:20.349 00:17:20.969 Nicolas Sucari: Yes.

216 00:17:20.970 00:17:23.339 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Good. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

217 00:17:25.750 00:17:32.950 Joshua de Veyra: Cause. I think this yeah, cause majority of the people, you know, they already know. And then, if it turns out well, they could even like hire us, you know.

218 00:17:32.960 00:17:35.059 Joshua de Veyra: basically as a as a consultant.

219 00:17:35.100 00:17:41.229 Joshua de Veyra: if they like trying to build a team to do it. Or maybe we provide them the team. I’m not sure how it goes from there.

220 00:17:43.340 00:17:44.320 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

221 00:17:46.060 00:17:48.260 Uttam Kumaran: So on the Hpi stuff.

222 00:17:49.760 00:17:51.410 Nicolas Sucari: They want like a platform right.

223 00:17:52.680 00:17:53.770 Uttam Kumaran: Hbi.

224 00:17:53.770 00:17:54.320 Joshua de Veyra: I know.

225 00:17:54.570 00:17:57.542 Uttam Kumaran: They want like a website. But I don’t know like, I wonder,

226 00:17:59.140 00:18:01.930 Uttam Kumaran: like, can we try to do this in retool or something.

227 00:18:03.200 00:18:09.370 Nicolas Sucari: But what is it that you want to like a website with, the information of the lease.

228 00:18:09.370 00:18:10.120 Joshua de Veyra: Okay.

229 00:18:10.120 00:18:10.760 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

230 00:18:11.240 00:18:16.850 Nicolas Sucari: You know how we can do it faster without getting it into a website, we can create a prototype using

231 00:18:16.860 00:18:19.630 Nicolas Sucari: reloom or recently resuming.

232 00:18:20.065 00:18:24.849 Uttam Kumaran: Do this over, Bubble, or can you do this on really.

233 00:18:24.850 00:18:26.559 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, Bubble, I think we can do it.

234 00:18:27.370 00:18:29.829 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, bubble, or there’s even these things. There’s like.

235 00:18:31.016 00:18:32.970 Uttam Kumaran: lightning. AI.

236 00:18:38.130 00:18:41.809 Joshua de Veyra: Can’t we just ask and to do like a figma design first.st

237 00:18:42.230 00:18:54.930 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, exactly. But we can do that super quickly with volume like, create a ux framework. Yeah, ux, like pages. And then we can prototype that as to simulate a website.

238 00:18:57.070 00:18:58.729 Joshua de Veyra: Or we can even use software.

239 00:18:59.640 00:19:02.979 Uttam Kumaran: What is? What is that cause? I was thinking, we do something like on Bubble.

240 00:19:04.407 00:19:09.040 Joshua de Veyra: It’s basically soft. It’s basically same as bubble. But with like, what do you call it?

241 00:19:09.200 00:19:11.840 Joshua de Veyra: Because it has direct integration with airtable.

242 00:19:12.210 00:19:13.290 Uttam Kumaran: Like soft, like this.

243 00:19:13.920 00:19:15.140 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, yeah. Software.

244 00:19:17.990 00:19:19.189 Joshua de Veyra: Oh, without the E,

245 00:19:20.110 00:19:21.669 Joshua de Veyra: yeah, there you go. That platform.

246 00:19:26.420 00:19:28.400 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, then. So why don’t we just build it with this?

247 00:19:28.550 00:19:30.109 Uttam Kumaran: You just think it won’t look good.

248 00:19:31.960 00:19:37.099 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, I mean, compared to when we code it. But if it’s that prototype, it should be okay.

249 00:19:37.985 00:19:41.750 Nicolas Sucari: I mean, they want to have a I think they want to have, like a visual

250 00:19:41.810 00:19:42.850 Nicolas Sucari: ui.

251 00:19:43.150 00:19:49.000 Nicolas Sucari: something, so that they so that we can demo what we, what we can do. That’s it. Then we can

252 00:19:49.050 00:19:50.720 Nicolas Sucari: create our own platform

253 00:19:51.760 00:19:53.350 Nicolas Sucari: or code it ourselves.

254 00:19:54.000 00:20:00.849 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, maybe it’s both. Maybe it’s like something that works, but it’s ugly. And then here’s like what it could look like. And then that’s the cell.

255 00:20:01.480 00:20:02.200 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

256 00:20:04.580 00:20:09.699 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, what do you think you want to try to do this in software, or like Miguel?

257 00:20:10.440 00:20:13.170 Uttam Kumaran: Or you can even see if Casey has time he can do this.

258 00:20:13.560 00:20:14.310 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know. Maybe teams.

259 00:20:14.310 00:20:18.010 Joshua de Veyra: The only thing the only thing that.

260 00:20:18.730 00:20:26.479 Joshua de Veyra: Because that’s this is why I want to code it right? Because there’s a lot of like no code builders have, like a lot of limitations.

261 00:20:26.480 00:20:30.020 Uttam Kumaran: But like I don’t, we don’t. We’re not getting paid yet, so like.

262 00:20:30.020 00:20:30.770 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.

263 00:20:31.130 00:20:40.129 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t want to do this until we get money like I don’t want you to spend one more day, you know, especially if you have to get Anne’s time

264 00:20:40.410 00:20:41.250 Uttam Kumaran: like.

265 00:20:41.250 00:20:41.980 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah.

266 00:20:41.980 00:20:47.279 Uttam Kumaran: Like, yeah, we really need to close this deal. I don’t have much

267 00:20:47.460 00:20:49.320 Uttam Kumaran: more time for this, because again, if I take.

268 00:20:49.320 00:20:49.840 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.

269 00:20:49.840 00:20:51.479 Uttam Kumaran: We’re losing stuff on the website.

270 00:20:52.170 00:20:58.340 Nicolas Sucari: I think we need to ask us like the question is, how fast we can have something visually

271 00:20:58.410 00:21:11.250 Nicolas Sucari: that maybe we can share with them without spending like a lot of time working on it, I think what we can. That’s why I thought on doing like a product on figma with some screens without like actual information. But if you want that

272 00:21:11.320 00:21:14.670 Nicolas Sucari: like working, we, we should try these no code

273 00:21:14.920 00:21:22.219 Nicolas Sucari: pages and maybe just have something. Just have a view of projects and status.

274 00:21:22.320 00:21:27.539 Nicolas Sucari: and have something there, and see if that works, and then maybe we can work on that design

275 00:21:27.640 00:21:32.610 Nicolas Sucari: with them to show them what we can achieve if we build it ourselves.

276 00:21:33.121 00:21:40.449 Nicolas Sucari: And that is something that we can share like. We can work it next week and try to have something for for Friday next week, maybe.

277 00:21:40.800 00:21:41.680 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

278 00:21:42.800 00:21:44.830 Nicolas Sucari: Because if we if we still

279 00:21:45.270 00:21:47.940 Nicolas Sucari: spend a lot of time on this one over like

280 00:21:47.980 00:21:49.350 Nicolas Sucari: our focus will.

281 00:21:49.530 00:21:51.720 Nicolas Sucari: yeah, we’ll shift. We are not gonna

282 00:21:52.410 00:22:00.610 Nicolas Sucari: work on anything else. So I think we should try to get something really quick. It doesn’t matter if it is ugly, but we need to share like.

283 00:22:01.300 00:22:02.189 Nicolas Sucari: and then I’ll

284 00:22:02.520 00:22:05.330 Nicolas Sucari: something for them so that Scott can.

285 00:22:05.430 00:22:09.940 Nicolas Sucari: Then yeah, discuss if that is something that can work.

286 00:22:11.370 00:22:19.489 Uttam Kumaran: Miguel. Maybe we could do it in after. Just put the results in air table. And so it looks like it’s getting generated. But it’s just fake results.

287 00:22:21.720 00:22:25.810 Joshua de Veyra: I know, because I think because the way they want to do it is to we’ll probably

288 00:22:25.890 00:22:31.580 Joshua de Veyra: because the way I think we will demo this or have them try it out is within the Morda Morgan group, right?

289 00:22:31.960 00:22:34.839 Joshua de Veyra: So the way I’m thinking of doing it.

290 00:22:34.910 00:22:39.100 Joshua de Veyra: Cause if you look at the screenshot like, there’s financials timing, whatever. Right?

291 00:22:39.640 00:22:46.340 Joshua de Veyra: So I’m thinking, do we really need everything? Or we can have, you know, financials, basically only the rate work.

292 00:22:48.240 00:22:56.480 Joshua de Veyra: And then, you know, if they search something up, it’s gonna show there, basically, like we don’t. I don’t think we have to make everything work yet, like maybe.

293 00:22:56.480 00:22:59.679 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, exactly. I think it should. It should be like.

294 00:23:01.020 00:23:01.550 Nicolas Sucari: yeah.

295 00:23:01.550 00:23:02.250 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

296 00:23:03.300 00:23:05.710 Joshua de Veyra: I could probably do this in Code 2 is pretty fast.

297 00:23:05.720 00:23:08.659 Joshua de Veyra: or I can. I just ask my friend. I’ll just pay him a couple of bucks.

298 00:23:11.020 00:23:12.719 Joshua de Veyra: but this will be possible.

299 00:23:12.960 00:23:13.450 Nicolas Sucari: Don’t!

300 00:23:13.450 00:23:13.869 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, we do.

301 00:23:13.870 00:23:16.169 Nicolas Sucari: Code, because we know it’s not gonna

302 00:23:16.720 00:23:19.150 Nicolas Sucari: be the final thing. Yeah.

303 00:23:19.210 00:23:23.939 Nicolas Sucari: or don’t spend time doing it in code. I don’t think that’s the idea. I think the idea is just

304 00:23:24.010 00:23:34.829 Nicolas Sucari: have something. If we can use an old code platform that will be great because it should be super easy. And let’s stick to the limitations that that platform has. We can share that the 1st Mvp.

305 00:23:35.190 00:23:38.249 Uttam Kumaran: The other thing Miguel is like, I kind of want. So

306 00:23:38.520 00:23:45.659 Uttam Kumaran: I wanna do what? Scott asked, because Scott has the relationship with the guy, and so.

307 00:23:45.660 00:23:46.170 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah.

308 00:23:46.170 00:23:47.510 Uttam Kumaran: He will sell us

309 00:23:47.540 00:23:48.710 Uttam Kumaran: pretty well.

310 00:23:48.790 00:23:51.859 Uttam Kumaran: so I kind of want to stick with what he wants.

311 00:23:52.420 00:23:53.060 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, yeah.

312 00:23:55.350 00:23:59.625 Uttam Kumaran: He’s gonna pitch. He’s gonna pitch us and get get us the contract for sure.

313 00:24:01.640 00:24:06.140 Uttam Kumaran: we can. One thing what we’ll do see if you can build something like this, and softer

314 00:24:06.850 00:24:07.880 Uttam Kumaran: or bubble.

315 00:24:09.020 00:24:13.649 Joshua de Veyra: Okay, yeah, I’ll it’s probably possible. I think it is possible to build that

316 00:24:14.701 00:24:18.919 Joshua de Veyra: cause. I’m just thinking, this is a bit more technical approach.

317 00:24:18.950 00:24:24.360 Joshua de Veyra: like. So, for example, they send the chat request. So we save that to air table.

318 00:24:24.560 00:24:28.500 Joshua de Veyra: And then, okay, I have it. I have it in mind. I already have it.

319 00:24:28.830 00:24:37.159 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, like I. So this is the thing I I wanna the Ui is one thing. But I also wanna kind of think about what the Agent Demo could look like.

320 00:24:37.330 00:24:40.249 Uttam Kumaran: So maybe it’s also like I show them the relevance

321 00:24:41.150 00:24:48.880 Uttam Kumaran: on the right side of like what, how they could debug right like cause. We’re this is going to be sent to the relevance agent, right? Or you. Is that correct?

322 00:24:50.395 00:24:51.340 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

323 00:24:51.670 00:24:56.249 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s the thing is like I can. Once they click on this I can then share. Here’s the

324 00:24:56.260 00:24:59.279 Uttam Kumaran: here’s like the actual behind the scenes of what’s going on.

325 00:25:03.150 00:25:04.130 Joshua de Veyra: Okay.

326 00:25:06.290 00:25:09.140 Joshua de Veyra: the financials. Ta-da- ta-da.

327 00:25:10.550 00:25:12.129 Joshua de Veyra: Honestly, I might use.

328 00:25:12.880 00:25:14.150 Joshua de Veyra: And Nathan here

329 00:25:14.820 00:25:16.499 Joshua de Veyra: does remember relevance.

330 00:25:16.520 00:25:19.020 Joshua de Veyra: Actually, no, we can connect relevance with an ATM.

331 00:25:19.760 00:25:20.560 Joshua de Veyra: I like it.

332 00:25:20.560 00:25:22.500 Uttam Kumaran: Debugging dude.

333 00:25:24.070 00:25:25.356 Joshua de Veyra: Because basically

334 00:25:26.352 00:25:29.520 Uttam Kumaran: Love seeing relevance. It’s gonna help for the demo.

335 00:25:30.370 00:25:33.480 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, like agent. Blah blah is working. Yada Yada.

336 00:25:33.480 00:25:36.309 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, it’s just nice for them to understand.

337 00:25:37.490 00:25:48.219 Joshua de Veyra: Cause I’m thinking, the way we demo this to them is, we have an 8 n, 8, and you know, workflow basically running. And then you’re gonna drop basically an entirely new

338 00:25:48.450 00:25:50.729 Joshua de Veyra: basically, the Morgan group into

339 00:25:52.200 00:25:53.149 Joshua de Veyra: what’s he called it.

340 00:25:54.520 00:25:55.910 Uttam Kumaran: It’s a rack or.

341 00:25:57.510 00:26:02.950 Joshua de Veyra: Into a Google drive. Sorry, yeah, into a Google drive. And then the workflow will run, basically vectorize it.

342 00:26:03.020 00:26:08.409 Joshua de Veyra: And then, now, the agent has access to it. That’s the only thing they have to do right, which is pretty simple.

343 00:26:08.630 00:26:11.840 Joshua de Veyra: They don’t have to click anything. Just put it in the, you know.

344 00:26:12.120 00:26:13.010 Joshua de Veyra: folder.

345 00:26:14.630 00:26:15.880 Joshua de Veyra: And then from that.

346 00:26:16.320 00:26:18.520 Joshua de Veyra: basically, we can do almost anything

347 00:26:18.590 00:26:20.890 Joshua de Veyra: with relevance in any of them.

348 00:26:23.200 00:26:23.890 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

349 00:26:27.070 00:26:28.030 Joshua de Veyra: But yeah,

350 00:26:29.360 00:26:32.029 Joshua de Veyra: when do we meet them again? Cause I wanna.

351 00:26:32.710 00:26:34.310 Uttam Kumaran: I have. It’s up to us.

352 00:26:35.820 00:26:38.890 Joshua de Veyra: Okay, yeah, I’ll I’ll come up with something next week.

353 00:26:41.240 00:26:45.129 Uttam Kumaran: So let me tell Scott we’re gonna work on it next week and then

354 00:26:46.410 00:26:51.369 Uttam Kumaran: cause. So in the in the States, Thanksgiving is the 25.th So

355 00:26:52.240 00:26:53.910 Uttam Kumaran: basically, the

356 00:26:54.190 00:26:58.080 Uttam Kumaran: the business world kind of stops after mid Thanksgiving.

357 00:26:59.810 00:27:00.990 Joshua de Veyra: Okay, so we have time.

358 00:27:00.990 00:27:07.939 Uttam Kumaran: There’s no way we’re gonna get a meeting, because also the Hpi people there’s all rich people they’ll go to like some other place they’ll like leave.

359 00:27:08.120 00:27:10.249 Uttam Kumaran: So like there’s no deal with them

360 00:27:10.270 00:27:11.380 Uttam Kumaran: so

361 00:27:11.970 00:27:14.330 Uttam Kumaran: ideally. Next 2 or 3 weeks.

362 00:27:15.720 00:27:19.960 Joshua de Veyra: Oh, yeah, I I thought, we need we needed out like Thursday or Friday.

363 00:27:19.960 00:27:20.400 Uttam Kumaran: I mean.

364 00:27:20.400 00:27:21.740 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, it’s definitely possible.

365 00:27:21.740 00:27:28.949 Uttam Kumaran: I’m not gonna say no, but I also want to be prepared like once you have it ready, we’ll we’ll walk through a demo internally.

366 00:27:29.780 00:27:30.390 Nicolas Sucari: Let’s yeah.

367 00:27:31.130 00:27:38.170 Nicolas Sucari: to have it internally, internally, for next week, and then we can like iterate and see if that’s gonna be work to share.

368 00:27:38.170 00:27:43.570 Uttam Kumaran: Let me put some time on, maybe for Thursday for internal demo.

369 00:27:43.600 00:27:45.360 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll ask Scott to join.

370 00:27:46.010 00:27:46.940 Uttam Kumaran: and then.

371 00:27:46.940 00:27:47.650 Joshua de Veyra: Okay. Yeah.

372 00:27:47.650 00:27:48.460 Uttam Kumaran: Reiterate.

373 00:27:48.740 00:27:49.640 Uttam Kumaran: and then let me know.

374 00:27:50.475 00:27:51.600 Uttam Kumaran: Whatever you need.

375 00:27:51.600 00:27:53.239 Joshua de Veyra: More time. Yeah.

376 00:27:54.188 00:27:57.470 Joshua de Veyra: Well, the 1st thing we need is we need to purchase.

377 00:27:57.990 00:28:00.809 Joshua de Veyra: I think it still cost us, I think, 40 bucks.

378 00:28:00.860 00:28:02.899 Joshua de Veyra: airtable and software combined.

379 00:28:03.170 00:28:03.970 Uttam Kumaran: For what

380 00:28:04.730 00:28:05.590 Uttam Kumaran: factors.

381 00:28:05.590 00:28:06.720 Nicolas Sucari: Have like a free.

382 00:28:07.070 00:28:10.159 Nicolas Sucari: free trial stuff or something like that. Try to do this.

383 00:28:10.160 00:28:11.000 Uttam Kumaran: For a software.

384 00:28:11.000 00:28:11.840 Joshua de Veyra: Through Us.

385 00:28:12.010 00:28:15.079 Joshua de Veyra: Software. I think we have 14 days or 13 days left.

386 00:28:15.220 00:28:18.570 Joshua de Veyra: I’m not sure if softer software has a free trial.

387 00:28:18.750 00:28:21.270 Joshua de Veyra: I think they do. But yeah, we’ll see.

388 00:28:22.410 00:28:23.080 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

389 00:28:24.680 00:28:26.400 Uttam Kumaran: okay, so let’s hear.

390 00:28:26.440 00:28:28.303 Uttam Kumaran: let’s figure that out.

391 00:28:30.320 00:28:33.260 Uttam Kumaran: trying to think there’s anything else.

392 00:28:34.310 00:28:36.789 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, the other thing is So

393 00:28:37.060 00:28:44.660 Uttam Kumaran: on Vitaco. I have to meet with their I have to meet with their people. But I also, said Miguel, let’s just like do a version of it, and get it to them

394 00:28:44.710 00:28:46.130 Uttam Kumaran: of the entire list.

395 00:28:46.990 00:28:50.989 Uttam Kumaran: and then just keep track of keep track of like, how long it takes

396 00:28:52.920 00:28:54.360 Uttam Kumaran: and how much is gonna.

397 00:28:55.090 00:28:57.690 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, that’s something. Also, I wanted to touch base on, because

398 00:28:58.060 00:29:00.259 Joshua de Veyra: there’s 1,900 stores. Matt.

399 00:29:00.790 00:29:01.450 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

400 00:29:02.020 00:29:06.290 Joshua de Veyra: And I. I need to get the link for each of that, and I have to do that manually.

401 00:29:06.630 00:29:07.330 Uttam Kumaran: Why?

402 00:29:09.090 00:29:09.480 Joshua de Veyra: Cause you have.

403 00:29:09.480 00:29:11.100 Nicolas Sucari: The change. Don’t be shared.

404 00:29:12.910 00:29:18.599 Joshua de Veyra: No, they didn’t share the. They only shared like the zip codes of the stores. They didn’t share the links

405 00:29:19.180 00:29:20.820 Joshua de Veyra: of the stores. We need the links.

406 00:29:20.820 00:29:25.060 Uttam Kumaran: So you need the links because you you just type in the Zip code in the, in the on the site.

407 00:29:28.530 00:29:31.069 Joshua de Veyra: No, but the automation needs the Zip code. Remember.

408 00:29:31.500 00:29:32.180 Uttam Kumaran: But they gave it.

409 00:29:32.180 00:29:32.860 Joshua de Veyra: And.

410 00:29:33.010 00:29:33.459 Uttam Kumaran: Didn’t they give me.

411 00:29:33.460 00:29:38.390 Joshua de Veyra: No, no, I mean sorry. They know the zip codes there, but the automation needs the

412 00:29:38.630 00:29:40.350 Joshua de Veyra: the link of the store.

413 00:29:41.880 00:29:46.649 Nicolas Sucari: And don’t you get the link of the store once you insert the Zip code in the web page

414 00:29:46.660 00:29:47.820 Nicolas Sucari: like automatically.

415 00:29:48.460 00:29:49.360 Joshua de Veyra: No, no, no.

416 00:29:51.860 00:29:52.380 Uttam Kumaran: So.

417 00:29:52.380 00:29:54.260 Joshua de Veyra: Wait. If you insert the

418 00:29:54.710 00:29:58.419 Joshua de Veyra: if any wait. If you wait, let me check target. Actually wait, give me a moment.

419 00:29:58.900 00:30:02.199 Joshua de Veyra: cause the way I did. It was I went to target.

420 00:30:02.720 00:30:06.119 Joshua de Veyra: I did. I did that for 60, and it was very tedious.

421 00:30:08.850 00:30:09.819 Joshua de Veyra: Oh.

422 00:30:09.890 00:30:10.940 Joshua de Veyra: relationship

423 00:30:12.160 00:30:13.610 Joshua de Veyra: more info.

424 00:30:14.860 00:30:18.189 Joshua de Veyra: Oh, yeah. Cause you have to type in the name and the Zip code

425 00:30:19.930 00:30:21.550 Joshua de Veyra: where I had to do that.

426 00:30:22.740 00:30:24.399 Joshua de Veyra: Oh, wait! Let me share a screen.

427 00:30:27.000 00:30:28.200 Joshua de Veyra: Alright! Let me go here.

428 00:30:28.200 00:30:34.439 Nicolas Sucari: I thought we just like gave the spreadsheet that we had with the Zip code and the link for that

429 00:30:34.856 00:30:41.810 Nicolas Sucari: store and browser base went through all of those ones, checking for that product that that was not how we did it.

430 00:30:42.360 00:30:46.229 Joshua de Veyra: No, no, no, we. I had to get each store linked.

431 00:30:48.550 00:30:49.810 Uttam Kumaran: At the store left.

432 00:30:50.660 00:30:51.370 Nicolas Sucari: Exactly.

433 00:30:52.300 00:30:53.189 Nicolas Sucari: Isn’t that possible?

434 00:30:53.445 00:30:53.700 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah.

435 00:30:53.700 00:30:54.140 Nicolas Sucari: To go.

436 00:30:54.140 00:30:57.379 Joshua de Veyra: That that? Yeah, I wanted to do that. But the thing was.

437 00:30:58.230 00:31:05.849 Joshua de Veyra: if it that was would have been possible right if they didn’t add the the name in the URL. They added the name.

438 00:31:06.390 00:31:11.260 Joshua de Veyra: So now it’s it’s it can be. I guess we we can run like an AI step. Hey?

439 00:31:11.270 00:31:12.750 Joshua de Veyra: Here’s the

440 00:31:12.950 00:31:15.720 Joshua de Veyra: thing to do. But now let me just show my screen.

441 00:31:16.620 00:31:24.650 Nicolas Sucari: Can we? Can’t. We split it into 2 different runs, like, 1st run all of the zip codes to get these store names and then use those ones

442 00:31:24.700 00:31:29.650 Nicolas Sucari: to run the entire command and check for the product stock.

443 00:31:29.650 00:31:30.240 Joshua de Veyra: Wait.

444 00:31:30.500 00:31:32.510 Joshua de Veyra: Oh, wait! Is it this one?

445 00:31:34.640 00:31:38.960 Joshua de Veyra: I am not sure what’s happening. Wait, let me just share my screen, I guess.

446 00:31:40.460 00:31:41.620 Joshua de Veyra: Can you guys see it?

447 00:31:42.020 00:31:46.680 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, yeah. So basically, the way I did it was, I go here.

448 00:31:46.810 00:31:49.779 Joshua de Veyra: So this is the annoying part like this seller up itself.

449 00:31:50.900 00:31:56.060 Joshua de Veyra: So if I wanted to change the URL right like, for example, we want to go to a different store.

450 00:31:56.670 00:31:58.790 Joshua de Veyra: Sandra Rapids or Coralville.

451 00:31:59.820 00:32:04.740 Joshua de Veyra: it changes here. So if it this. If this was the only thing that changes, then yeah, it would have been easy.

452 00:32:04.990 00:32:06.600 Joshua de Veyra: But this changes.

453 00:32:06.760 00:32:07.990 Joshua de Veyra: and then

454 00:32:09.262 00:32:10.269 Joshua de Veyra: it’s all it’s here.

455 00:32:10.840 00:32:14.190 Joshua de Veyra: And then, you know. So this one again, right?

456 00:32:14.220 00:32:23.299 Joshua de Veyra: I also, I guess there’s a way to do to train like a prompt hey? You know, this is how they usually do it. It’s like word space, word, space.

457 00:32:23.300 00:32:25.919 Uttam Kumaran: Go down that list and get everything.

458 00:32:28.180 00:32:28.879 Joshua de Veyra: What do you mean?

459 00:32:29.510 00:32:33.659 Uttam Kumaran: Like when you type in a Zip code. It tells you all the stores. Right?

460 00:32:36.990 00:32:37.680 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

461 00:32:37.960 00:32:40.360 Uttam Kumaran: Why can’t? Why can’t you go down this list.

462 00:32:42.350 00:32:48.200 Joshua de Veyra: We want to scrape this list. No, but the thing is we wanna do it like, you know this right?

463 00:32:48.760 00:32:50.280 Joshua de Veyra: There’s like Alabama.

464 00:32:50.500 00:32:51.780 Joshua de Veyra: My eyes are burning on.

465 00:32:51.780 00:32:52.160 Nicolas Sucari: But.

466 00:32:52.160 00:32:55.129 Uttam Kumaran: It give you the Zip code, and then you just go.

467 00:33:00.240 00:33:06.719 Nicolas Sucari: I’m looking this in this list we have. The Zip code is the last column column. F is the Zip Code. I think the call column.

468 00:33:06.720 00:33:07.220 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, yeah.

469 00:33:07.220 00:33:18.490 Nicolas Sucari: That id column B is the id that you have in that URL, and you have the name of the store in column. A right. So if you go to alabaster, for example, go to the target page

470 00:33:19.260 00:33:24.589 Nicolas Sucari: like you have everything here. Why don’t we just like ask Browser base to

471 00:33:25.090 00:33:28.310 Nicolas Sucari: yeah. U dot column a column B,

472 00:33:29.110 00:33:31.499 Nicolas Sucari: I don’t even know which was in the name.

473 00:33:31.980 00:33:33.020 Nicolas Sucari: The number.

474 00:33:33.680 00:33:35.520 Joshua de Veyra: How do I hide this thing? Wait!

475 00:33:36.040 00:33:39.630 Nicolas Sucari: No, no, it’s you have the. You have it there list of

476 00:33:39.710 00:33:41.699 Nicolas Sucari: you. List of stores. Yeah.

477 00:33:41.790 00:33:42.980 Nicolas Sucari: In another tab.

478 00:33:44.060 00:33:46.269 Joshua de Veyra: No, no! Like the zoom thing is blocking every.

479 00:33:47.540 00:33:48.710 Nicolas Sucari: Okay. Yeah.

480 00:33:49.851 00:33:51.660 Joshua de Veyra: There you go. Yeah, I’ll just put this here.

481 00:33:51.800 00:33:53.750 Joshua de Veyra: And then I think it’s

482 00:33:54.210 00:33:56.899 Joshua de Veyra: I think it’s zip code to be honest. But yeah, let’s see

483 00:33:58.830 00:34:00.170 Joshua de Veyra: alabaster.

484 00:34:00.950 00:34:01.860 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, exactly.

485 00:34:02.760 00:34:04.640 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, we could do that, I guess, but

486 00:34:06.220 00:34:07.600 Joshua de Veyra: I guess 1st

487 00:34:07.730 00:34:09.350 Joshua de Veyra: you know what. I’ll try this out.

488 00:34:09.350 00:34:11.199 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, put the dashes and try it.

489 00:34:17.199 00:34:18.310 Joshua de Veyra: To do

490 00:34:22.679 00:34:24.330 Joshua de Veyra: Mr. Stores.

491 00:34:31.139 00:34:32.449 Joshua de Veyra: Okay, that works.

492 00:34:32.699 00:34:34.249 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. Alright, you’re good.

493 00:34:35.449 00:34:36.359 Uttam Kumaran: So just on.

494 00:34:36.360 00:34:37.050 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah. The only.

495 00:34:37.050 00:34:38.070 Uttam Kumaran: Just just create.

496 00:34:38.070 00:34:38.500 Joshua de Veyra: At all.

497 00:34:38.500 00:34:41.010 Uttam Kumaran: All of that puts the dashes and builds the URL.

498 00:34:43.110 00:34:43.889 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, okay.

499 00:34:44.150 00:34:46.790 Joshua de Veyra: you know, I mean, actually, even trying to. Just

500 00:34:47.630 00:34:53.029 Joshua de Veyra: yeah, I might actually just try perplexity for this one. They have the ability to search the web right.

501 00:34:54.070 00:34:55.030 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, try.

502 00:34:55.929 00:34:57.709 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, let me just check.

503 00:34:59.710 00:35:03.399 Uttam Kumaran: But what are you gonna search for? Perplexity? You could just build a URL and Google sheets, though.

504 00:35:03.980 00:35:04.620 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.

505 00:35:05.310 00:35:06.949 Joshua de Veyra: Like automated, though. Yeah.

506 00:35:07.090 00:35:08.360 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, you just.

507 00:35:08.360 00:35:10.050 Nicolas Sucari: Oh! With a formula.

508 00:35:10.250 00:35:12.069 Uttam Kumaran: Create a new column and add a formula.

509 00:35:14.440 00:35:18.987 Nicolas Sucari: So it should be. Let me check the formula, but it should be like all of the target.

510 00:35:20.230 00:35:23.239 Nicolas Sucari: URL. And then you add.

511 00:35:23.240 00:35:26.610 Uttam Kumaran: Nico, you wanna send me share this with me. I’ll I’ll join, and I’ll show you.

512 00:35:27.340 00:35:28.290 Joshua de Veyra: Okay. Sure. Sure.

513 00:35:37.740 00:35:42.900 Nicolas Sucari: And then you can. Yeah, you can tell Prosper to go to each of these links.

514 00:35:43.090 00:35:49.089 Nicolas Sucari: Click on, buy from the store. Right? That’s something we need to do and then check for the product.

515 00:36:00.950 00:36:02.340 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so.

516 00:36:03.940 00:36:04.260 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.

517 00:36:09.190 00:36:11.270 Uttam Kumaran: This is like an example. URL.

518 00:36:40.660 00:36:45.399 Nicolas Sucari: And use a formula to replace the spaces with the dashes, and then the

519 00:36:45.570 00:36:46.470 Nicolas Sucari: and

520 00:36:47.480 00:36:52.289 Nicolas Sucari: ampersign to just join with the other fields in the columns.

521 00:37:07.790 00:37:08.480 Uttam Kumaran: Yep.

522 00:37:25.450 00:37:27.340 Uttam Kumaran: yeah. So it’s something like this.

523 00:37:36.810 00:37:38.629 Uttam Kumaran: is it? Sl, always.

524 00:37:39.920 00:37:40.920 Joshua de Veyra: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

525 00:37:41.310 00:37:43.049 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, and there you go. That’s it. It’s done.

526 00:37:44.380 00:37:45.380 Joshua de Veyra: But let me see.

527 00:37:47.650 00:37:48.920 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, it’s all working.

528 00:37:50.860 00:37:52.110 Joshua de Veyra: Oh, nice! Now we have it.

529 00:37:52.810 00:37:56.560 Joshua de Veyra: Do we want to run this all at the same time? We want to separate it by state.

530 00:37:57.720 00:38:01.199 Uttam Kumaran: I would no batch it, batch it so you can make sure that it all.

531 00:38:01.860 00:38:03.349 Joshua de Veyra: It all works. Now, yeah.

532 00:38:03.700 00:38:05.839 Uttam Kumaran: Just batch it by some number.

533 00:38:06.310 00:38:08.530 Uttam Kumaran: But yeah, let’s just rip the whole thing.

534 00:38:10.690 00:38:11.409 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, that’s cool.

535 00:38:11.410 00:38:13.130 Nicolas Sucari: Copy and paste it on the 1st one, too.

536 00:38:13.400 00:38:14.920 Nicolas Sucari: The 1st one is also.

537 00:38:20.160 00:38:20.840 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

538 00:38:20.980 00:38:21.680 Uttam Kumaran: cool.

539 00:38:26.510 00:38:27.719 Joshua de Veyra: Okay, nice. It’s done.

540 00:38:27.900 00:38:29.970 Joshua de Veyra: I was worried. I had to do this manually.

541 00:38:30.600 00:38:34.119 Uttam Kumaran: No, that’s because, like you, you don’t live in excel. I like to live in, excel.

542 00:38:34.120 00:38:34.640 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.

543 00:38:34.640 00:38:35.380 Joshua de Veyra: Yes.

544 00:38:45.440 00:38:49.769 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, the only other thing is on Patrick. So

545 00:38:50.260 00:38:53.228 Uttam Kumaran: I, what ended up happening is, Patrick is,

546 00:38:53.670 00:39:14.200 Uttam Kumaran: most likely just gonna be helping with just recruiting. I don’t think he’s gonna be helping with a lot of stuff. We just don’t have budget right now for work on the data platform side. So he’s basically just gonna only be helping on recruiting here and there. But honestly, I’m not sure how outsized his role is. Gonna be

547 00:39:14.310 00:39:21.340 Uttam Kumaran: moving forward. So I think the biggest thing Nico, is, I want us to get someone really talented on the

548 00:39:21.460 00:39:23.510 Uttam Kumaran: data analysis side.

549 00:39:23.700 00:39:27.719 Uttam Kumaran: And then I want to get someone to come in and backfill on the data inside.

550 00:39:29.500 00:39:30.869 Uttam Kumaran: I think also.

551 00:39:32.190 00:39:42.209 Uttam Kumaran: I think we will likely end up also moving towards bringing someone on similar to Ryan, so that we don’t have to rely on probably, like

552 00:39:42.390 00:39:46.479 Uttam Kumaran: probably Brian anymore, or at least have him as like redundant

553 00:39:46.490 00:39:53.500 Uttam Kumaran: Brian is kind of expensive, but he’s good. But I kind of like want to bias more towards having people internally

554 00:39:53.610 00:39:55.110 Uttam Kumaran: as much as possible.

555 00:39:55.190 00:40:02.923 Uttam Kumaran: so we’ll see if we get another person on the data modeling side. That’s who away you’re talking to. I have another person.

556 00:40:03.807 00:40:10.479 Uttam Kumaran: Alexander is kind of expensive, but let’s see. We still owe him some stuff. But

557 00:40:11.148 00:40:17.719 Uttam Kumaran: I kind of want someone to be available for data and support. I also called the folks at near yesterday.

558 00:40:18.160 00:40:27.670 Uttam Kumaran: Camila in particular, she told. She said, that they’re gonna try to look for some people with the profiles with the Jd’s that we sent.

559 00:40:28.332 00:40:29.687 Uttam Kumaran: So let’s see,

560 00:40:30.850 00:40:33.370 Uttam Kumaran: ideally, what I want is basically

561 00:40:33.380 00:40:36.399 Uttam Kumaran: right now, we just have Javi, we have pool parts. I want.

562 00:40:36.410 00:40:40.670 Uttam Kumaran: I basically want some an analyst to come in on pull parts, to start to help

563 00:40:41.458 00:40:54.341 Uttam Kumaran: and then I want Ryan to start to move towards still doing stuff for them. But then also maybe taking over Javi or working on the next client, basically for data.

564 00:40:54.720 00:40:55.350 Nicolas Sucari: All right.

565 00:40:55.920 00:41:21.740 Uttam Kumaran: So let’s also think, as soon as we get done with this vitaco thing, I want to talk to them about stuff they need next month. So that’s what I want to drive the conversation towards wrapping this up and then being able to go meet with their Cfo and say, like, what else do you need? So let’s try to like really slam this home. I’m gonna create. I’ll create a little bit of a deck that we can present to them about like how we did this documentation, and then we could try and see whether we could book them for more work next week. Next month.

566 00:41:22.680 00:41:28.879 Nicolas Sucari: For for that deck. We should measure how long it took it took us to like, get

567 00:41:29.266 00:41:36.050 Nicolas Sucari: this this workflow running to get all of the information, and you should manually try to

568 00:41:36.130 00:41:40.580 Nicolas Sucari: look into each like into 2 stores to see how much time

569 00:41:40.600 00:41:43.430 Nicolas Sucari: we are kind of reducing using like these.

570 00:41:43.610 00:41:47.509 Nicolas Sucari: yeah, doing doing it this way so that they can compare. Because

571 00:41:47.710 00:41:53.609 Nicolas Sucari: I think that’s gonna be like a excellent result like, it took me 2 min to check one store, and it took like

572 00:41:53.930 00:42:00.229 Nicolas Sucari: I don’t know. 10 seconds to the To Browser Base to go and check. I don’t know 10, something like that. That’s something we can share with them.

573 00:42:00.510 00:42:01.569 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah.

574 00:42:03.561 00:42:07.780 Nicolas Sucari: But yeah, this is good. Yeah, okay? And on, Patrick, I think it’s it’s fine.

575 00:42:08.160 00:42:33.729 Nicolas Sucari: I think we will need like at the end. We will need finally, someone internally, to kind of lead the technical part on the data practice right? But I think if we like, can have Patrick around for some special occasions, and also Brian and I don’t know. I I know they are expensive, but they kind of produce like great work so maybe they they can help us at some point.

576 00:42:34.710 00:42:44.559 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that’s the thing like the thing with Patrick and with Brian. I just felt they were like halfway in, halfway out, like, I, I want someone who’s like proactive like us, you know.

577 00:42:44.760 00:42:49.939 Uttam Kumaran: That’s the problem I was having was like, I’m like, I can’t wait to ask you to do this

578 00:42:49.970 00:42:53.899 Uttam Kumaran: like, we need someone who’s super active. So it’s tough, like

579 00:42:54.140 00:42:56.450 Uttam Kumaran: the people I know who are good at that

580 00:42:56.630 00:42:59.880 Uttam Kumaran: are very, very expensive here.

581 00:43:00.540 00:43:08.620 Uttam Kumaran: so I’m trying to see. Like as we interview people, we find someone with some energy. That’s the biggest thing we’re looking at is like people with some energy and some drive

582 00:43:09.077 00:43:10.980 Uttam Kumaran: to kind of come in and own that

583 00:43:11.521 00:43:14.780 Uttam Kumaran: so let’s see, like I think we’re getting better at figuring out

584 00:43:14.810 00:43:16.240 Uttam Kumaran: that process.

585 00:43:16.740 00:43:22.629 Uttam Kumaran: But it may be a while. The nice thing is like, I’m still there. And like, yeah, we can rely on Brian and some of these guys. So

586 00:43:23.780 00:43:24.420 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.

587 00:43:24.610 00:43:25.759 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, for a bit.

588 00:43:26.730 00:43:28.549 Nicolas Sucari: Excellent. Okay, yeah. Cool.

589 00:43:29.450 00:43:31.249 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Cool. Anything else.

590 00:43:32.190 00:43:33.390 Uttam Kumaran: Wanna chat about.

591 00:43:35.720 00:43:36.689 Nicolas Sucari: Don’t think so.

592 00:43:36.820 00:43:37.510 Nicolas Sucari: Oh.

593 00:43:37.740 00:43:40.255 Nicolas Sucari: we have a bunch of meetings on Monday.

594 00:43:41.680 00:43:45.420 Nicolas Sucari: yeah, I I invited just for you to know. I invited

595 00:43:46.080 00:43:49.620 Nicolas Sucari: Robert to our internal Javi meetings

596 00:43:50.880 00:44:00.050 Nicolas Sucari: because of that message he sent. He didn’t join. Yes, he didn’t join yesterday, but yeah, hopefully, he can join on Monday, and we can. Well, it’s up to them to discuss the tool stuff.

597 00:44:00.352 00:44:04.279 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m talking to him in 10 min. I can just get the.

598 00:44:04.280 00:44:04.890 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.

599 00:44:05.210 00:44:08.359 Uttam Kumaran: You can just ask him if there’s anything specific.

600 00:44:08.790 00:44:10.839 Uttam Kumaran: and then, yeah, I mean, like again, it’s

601 00:44:11.100 00:44:17.470 Uttam Kumaran: for me on the client stuff. It’s like it’s just hard for me to join, because I’m just like running out of time. So, but.

602 00:44:17.470 00:44:18.140 Nicolas Sucari: That’s fine!

603 00:44:18.140 00:44:22.680 Uttam Kumaran: You’re in any of those meetings, and it starts getting crazy. Just invite me. Just let me, or just let me know.

604 00:44:23.190 00:44:27.660 Nicolas Sucari: No, no, yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is like, another case where

605 00:44:27.710 00:44:30.730 Nicolas Sucari: Javi is their client. Right? And they are using us

606 00:44:30.840 00:44:46.979 Nicolas Sucari: to to to provide the the data management and modeling. Maybe. So I don’t wanna make the decision of what we need to do. I just want to yeah, ask them to to, to let us know what direction they want to go, and we can then

607 00:44:47.040 00:44:48.630 Nicolas Sucari: adapt to anything.

608 00:44:48.880 00:44:49.600 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

609 00:44:50.730 00:45:00.400 Nicolas Sucari: But I mean if we, if you, if you want us to like, take some leadership from them there, let me know, and I can try to do it. I mean, I don’t wanna step over.

610 00:45:00.690 00:45:09.800 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. But also I don’t know. I want to give it to them, because if even if we make a decision and they can’t do the analysis. Then it’s we’re going to be in trouble. So let’s leave it to them. I think we did what we needed to do, so

611 00:45:10.330 00:45:10.870 Uttam Kumaran: cool.

612 00:45:10.870 00:45:11.520 Nicolas Sucari: Excellent.

613 00:45:11.850 00:45:12.600 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.

614 00:45:13.990 00:45:16.290 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool guys, let’s chat in slack.

615 00:45:17.900 00:45:18.670 Nicolas Sucari: Excellent.

616 00:45:19.300 00:45:19.849 Nicolas Sucari: Bye, guys.

617 00:45:19.850 00:45:21.659 Joshua de Veyra: Thanks, everyone. Bye, bye.