Meeting Title: AI-Internal-Meeting Date: 2024-09-27 Meeting participants: Patrick Trainer, Nicolas Sucari, Uttam Kumaran


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1 00:01:02.460 00:01:03.320 Nicolas Sucari: Hey, Tom!

2 00:01:04.790 00:01:05.620 Uttam Kumaran: Hey!

3 00:01:09.230 00:01:12.260 Nicolas Sucari: Were you able to grab something to eat or not? Yet.

4 00:01:12.260 00:01:15.060 Uttam Kumaran: No, not yet. I took the dog for a walk.

5 00:01:15.890 00:01:16.610 Nicolas Sucari: Oh!

6 00:01:17.190 00:01:18.220 Uttam Kumaran: But that’s it.

7 00:01:22.420 00:01:27.709 Nicolas Sucari: I’m gonna work on the emails after this meeting. You wanna send something for.

8 00:01:28.110 00:01:32.820 Nicolas Sucari: or all of the 3 of them. Javi, Javi, we can send this like, maybe right?

9 00:01:32.820 00:01:37.549 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, Javi, let’s do in slack other. Maybe the vitacoco one.

10 00:01:37.620 00:01:39.490 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s do one. Now.

11 00:01:39.700 00:01:40.440 Nicolas Sucari: Okay. You may.

12 00:01:40.440 00:01:43.280 Uttam Kumaran: Actually, I don’t know. Maybe teams or email.

13 00:01:43.440 00:01:45.920 Uttam Kumaran: I’m not sure yet what what he prefers.

14 00:01:46.905 00:01:47.410 Uttam Kumaran: And

15 00:01:48.290 00:01:49.789 Uttam Kumaran: you can forward it easily.

16 00:01:50.440 00:01:51.730 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah. Okay.

17 00:01:54.860 00:01:55.610 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.

18 00:01:59.620 00:02:01.060 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I think

19 00:02:02.360 00:02:04.690 Uttam Kumaran: everything else is okay. Let’s see.

20 00:02:05.080 00:02:06.889 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know if Miguel’s joining.

21 00:02:11.009 00:02:15.509 Nicolas Sucari: The fireflies thing that we that I was just reading

22 00:02:15.989 00:02:32.479 Nicolas Sucari: in one of the channels that you were talking about, that I don’t know if we are like, I think that like, like, they are like users depending on the user that has fireflies. We are letting that join the meeting. And that’s why we’re receiving them. But it’s not from Brainforge. Right?

23 00:02:32.650 00:02:35.570 Uttam Kumaran: No, it’s not. It’s from Jp’s thing.

24 00:02:35.570 00:02:35.980 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.

25 00:02:35.980 00:02:37.000 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

26 00:02:37.870 00:02:38.890 Nicolas Sucari: Remove, Jb.

27 00:02:38.890 00:02:43.019 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know. How do I? Don’t know. How do I prevent? I removed him from some of them, but like

28 00:02:43.240 00:02:45.309 Uttam Kumaran: I just want to know how to prevent

29 00:02:45.620 00:02:48.300 Uttam Kumaran: it from ever joining any of our meetings.

30 00:02:48.590 00:02:53.630 Nicolas Sucari: Should be something on slack sorry on slack zoom

31 00:02:53.890 00:02:55.920 Nicolas Sucari: settings. Maybe. Let me check.

32 00:03:23.280 00:03:23.900 Patrick Trainer: Esh

33 00:03:24.640 00:03:25.750 Patrick Trainer: what is up.

34 00:03:27.080 00:03:27.870 Uttam Kumaran: Yo.

35 00:03:28.700 00:03:29.280 Nicolas Sucari: Hey!

36 00:03:34.280 00:03:40.559 Uttam Kumaran: Trying to figure out how to prevent the fireflies from joining meetings. You know what the problem is is that.

37 00:03:40.560 00:03:41.739 Patrick Trainer: And what that was. Yeah.

38 00:03:41.740 00:03:48.180 Uttam Kumaran: No, I talked to like so many people. And always I get like email like so and so wants their bought to join.

39 00:03:48.400 00:03:50.590 Uttam Kumaran: And I’m like, I don’t really want

40 00:03:51.290 00:03:52.190 Uttam Kumaran: the bot to

41 00:03:53.120 00:03:54.300 Uttam Kumaran: this meeting.

42 00:03:54.890 00:03:59.819 Uttam Kumaran: and like I would rather us record, because I’m happy for it to all go through our zoom.

43 00:03:59.980 00:04:03.050 Uttam Kumaran: and for us to record it. Then to go to like some startup

44 00:04:05.390 00:04:06.170 Patrick Trainer: Right.

45 00:04:06.420 00:04:10.670 Uttam Kumaran: But I may just reply to them, be like, How do I prevent this on my domain?

46 00:04:12.680 00:04:14.710 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, what like? So I thought

47 00:04:14.850 00:04:17.780 Patrick Trainer: all of that recording was through

48 00:04:19.730 00:04:20.940 Patrick Trainer: like the

49 00:04:21.010 00:04:23.410 Patrick Trainer: zoom plan itself.

50 00:04:23.680 00:04:24.300 Patrick Trainer: Not.

51 00:04:24.300 00:04:26.299 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, we recorded. But I think, like

52 00:04:26.400 00:04:27.450 Uttam Kumaran: individuals.

53 00:04:27.450 00:04:28.020 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, you.

54 00:04:28.020 00:04:32.279 Uttam Kumaran: Go. Use your brain for sign up for fireflies, and then it will. It will.

55 00:04:32.280 00:04:33.560 Nicolas Sucari: Automatically.

56 00:04:33.560 00:04:33.970 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

57 00:04:33.970 00:04:44.070 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, it’s like a different. It’s like someone else is joining and recording. When we record from Zoom, you see, like the cloud on the top left this window that’s recording

58 00:04:44.210 00:04:53.169 Nicolas Sucari: from Zoom. But other ones, it’s kind of bought the joint. I just find the yeah. I just found the external meeting participants.

59 00:04:53.170 00:04:55.249 Uttam Kumaran: It’s Jp. Is on the design team.

60 00:04:56.280 00:04:57.080 Patrick Trainer: Okay.

61 00:04:57.080 00:05:02.079 Uttam Kumaran: But I also, I think it was on his personal email. So I moved everybody over to Brainforge.

62 00:05:02.990 00:05:03.630 Nicolas Sucari: Hmm.

63 00:05:03.630 00:05:08.800 Uttam Kumaran: Everyone, even all the contractors, basically. So I’ve like, we just need to make sure things are sanitized.

64 00:05:09.590 00:05:10.420 Patrick Trainer: Got it.

65 00:05:11.980 00:05:12.700 Patrick Trainer: Yeah.

66 00:05:17.930 00:05:21.300 Patrick Trainer: sweet, with the new Ios update

67 00:05:21.980 00:05:22.600 Patrick Trainer: the.

68 00:05:22.600 00:05:24.100 Nicolas Sucari: Oh, I haven’t updated yet.

69 00:05:24.490 00:05:25.283 Patrick Trainer: You can.

70 00:05:25.790 00:05:29.350 Patrick Trainer: you can record a transcript of your phone calls.

71 00:05:30.230 00:05:32.520 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Well, I just updated to the Beta version.

72 00:05:32.520 00:05:33.360 Nicolas Sucari: Nice.

73 00:05:34.800 00:05:36.809 Patrick Trainer: I think you have to have like.

74 00:05:37.010 00:05:42.290 Patrick Trainer: if not the newest like I mean the sixteens just came out, but I think they’re only available on the

75 00:05:42.400 00:05:43.830 Patrick Trainer: 16 and 15.

76 00:05:43.830 00:05:45.630 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay. I have a phone.

77 00:05:48.240 00:05:49.229 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, it’s like.

78 00:05:49.570 00:05:53.260 Patrick Trainer: it’s it’s limited to like the the new chips.

79 00:05:55.250 00:05:55.870 Patrick Trainer: I’m still.

80 00:05:55.870 00:05:57.130 Nicolas Sucari: I’m wondering.

81 00:05:57.490 00:05:59.030 Patrick Trainer: I’m still kicking a 12.

82 00:06:01.160 00:06:05.699 Nicolas Sucari: I was just checking. I have my previous one, my 11 one here

83 00:06:06.090 00:06:08.819 Nicolas Sucari: feels so like different now.

84 00:06:09.880 00:06:11.840 Patrick Trainer: Broke the the back.

85 00:06:11.940 00:06:14.880 Nicolas Sucari: The yeah, I know it’s terrible.

86 00:06:15.320 00:06:19.129 Nicolas Sucari: You you guys, you you use it without like, a case right?

87 00:06:19.340 00:06:20.570 Patrick Trainer: Yeah. No. Case.

88 00:06:21.600 00:06:25.770 Nicolas Sucari: What if that’s why you live in the 1st world when we live in the 3rd World.

89 00:06:26.245 00:06:26.720 Patrick Trainer: Yeah.

90 00:06:26.720 00:06:27.520 Nicolas Sucari: Poor guys.

91 00:06:27.520 00:06:28.540 Patrick Trainer: So it’s I.

92 00:06:28.540 00:06:29.500 Nicolas Sucari: Have to.

93 00:06:29.500 00:06:35.949 Patrick Trainer: I had a case for a long time, but like iphone glass has become so strong like.

94 00:06:35.950 00:06:37.819 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, it. It. It.

95 00:06:37.820 00:06:40.010 Patrick Trainer: Doesn’t break. And then

96 00:06:40.440 00:06:41.800 Patrick Trainer: this was

97 00:06:41.830 00:06:45.720 Patrick Trainer: I. I don’t. It landed on a rock, but it’s.

98 00:06:45.720 00:06:54.780 Nicolas Sucari: That’s crazy because you you see here, if you see a person using an iphone without a case, it’s like, Hey, man, you’re crazy. It’s like

99 00:06:55.190 00:07:00.700 Nicolas Sucari: thing that we know how how expensive an iphone is, and he’s like.

100 00:07:00.700 00:07:01.090 Patrick Trainer: Yeah.

101 00:07:01.090 00:07:06.589 Nicolas Sucari: Well, we here we don’t have like if you want to go to there. There is no apple store, so

102 00:07:07.110 00:07:08.390 Nicolas Sucari: that’s crazy. I mean.

103 00:07:09.160 00:07:15.760 Uttam Kumaran: I have a case, too, but I have like my wallet, so I don’t carry a wallet. I have my cards in the back of my phone.

104 00:07:16.880 00:07:18.279 Uttam Kumaran: That’s really nice.

105 00:07:18.960 00:07:25.059 Nicolas Sucari: That’s nice. I I know that cases, but here is kind of dangerous, because if they someone stole your.

106 00:07:25.060 00:07:25.830 Uttam Kumaran: Can you see your phone.

107 00:07:25.830 00:07:26.280 Nicolas Sucari: Thanks! Again.

108 00:07:26.280 00:07:27.130 Uttam Kumaran: Everything is.

109 00:07:27.130 00:07:28.220 Nicolas Sucari: Say everything.

110 00:07:28.490 00:07:37.959 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, I feel you. I just like I was just suck to like, I mean one. If I lose my phone and there’s a whole host of other issues. So it’s like.

111 00:07:38.240 00:07:38.875 Patrick Trainer: Yeah.

112 00:07:39.760 00:07:47.020 Uttam Kumaran: But yeah, I see what you mean, like and I but now it’s nice, because I only carry my key. Usually my keys, my air pods and my phone.

113 00:07:47.060 00:07:55.099 Uttam Kumaran: So like my wallet also, and I only use like 5 cards. But I also have like. Now, I have, like my coffee shop, punch card I have like

114 00:07:55.370 00:08:00.732 Uttam Kumaran: for the business. I have cars that are like up, not for my personal. I have my Costco.

115 00:08:02.400 00:08:05.839 Patrick Trainer: All of my cards are in the like apple wallet.

116 00:08:06.370 00:08:06.950 Patrick Trainer: like.

117 00:08:06.950 00:08:08.140 Nicolas Sucari: Hmm! We don’t carry.

118 00:08:08.140 00:08:10.979 Uttam Kumaran: In Austin that don’t don’t do tap today

119 00:08:11.300 00:08:13.580 Uttam Kumaran: like the main grocery chain. They

120 00:08:13.880 00:08:18.089 Uttam Kumaran: they’re just upgrading, but like a lot of places. Still, don’t do it.

121 00:08:18.090 00:08:18.670 Patrick Trainer: Really.

122 00:08:18.670 00:08:19.450 Nicolas Sucari: Doesn’t exist.

123 00:08:19.450 00:08:22.770 Uttam Kumaran: Taco shops. Some taco places I go to. Don’t do it.

124 00:08:23.080 00:08:24.030 Patrick Trainer: Oh, man.

125 00:08:24.510 00:08:26.869 Patrick Trainer: it doesn’t exist in Argentina yet.

126 00:08:27.130 00:08:33.900 Nicolas Sucari: I mean, it exists. But people are. I don’t know why people don’t use it. And sometimes it doesn’t work. Yeah, I mean, I don’t know why.

127 00:08:33.929 00:08:38.409 Nicolas Sucari: like the I don’t know how they calling the Po. How do you call them? The.

128 00:08:38.419 00:08:39.309 Patrick Trainer: Nfc.

129 00:08:39.700 00:08:49.310 Nicolas Sucari: Nfcs, yeah, the stores have. Sometimes it works and something. No, we’re we’re still getting into the contactless credit card like purchases.

130 00:08:49.460 00:08:50.850 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.

131 00:08:51.090 00:08:51.649 Nicolas Sucari: I don’t know.

132 00:08:51.650 00:08:52.200 Patrick Trainer: And terrible.

133 00:08:52.200 00:08:53.290 Nicolas Sucari: Far behind.

134 00:08:53.290 00:08:55.139 Patrick Trainer: Gas stations.

135 00:08:55.440 00:09:00.250 Patrick Trainer: Taco stands restaurant, even restaurants now, instead of bringing, like.

136 00:09:00.250 00:09:00.660 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.

137 00:09:00.660 00:09:03.899 Patrick Trainer: They’ve got these little like handheld pos systems

138 00:09:04.610 00:09:07.430 Patrick Trainer: that you just like bong your phone on. And it

139 00:09:07.460 00:09:08.840 Patrick Trainer: does that. And.

140 00:09:09.880 00:09:10.220 Uttam Kumaran: It’s fair.

141 00:09:10.220 00:09:11.320 Nicolas Sucari: So here you.

142 00:09:11.330 00:09:12.810 Nicolas Sucari: yeah, here’s Epus.

143 00:09:12.810 00:09:15.600 Patrick Trainer: Trying not to carry a wallet like at all.

144 00:09:16.480 00:09:23.319 Nicolas Sucari: Here when you when you ask for like the check in a restaurant some yeah, time before

145 00:09:23.440 00:09:34.230 Nicolas Sucari: the waiter, like they took your credit card and take it away from you, and go to like the register when they have everything there, and they made like the purchase for you.

146 00:09:34.568 00:09:43.119 Nicolas Sucari: And now it’s changing a lot because of the security of you having your own card. And they are bringing the pos to the table. But

147 00:09:43.918 00:09:49.070 Nicolas Sucari: yeah, it’s still we’re we’re still in in in that. Yeah, the time.

148 00:09:49.070 00:09:54.980 Patrick Trainer: Is is what’s like tipping culture like in in Argentina. Is that a thing.

149 00:09:55.650 00:09:58.390 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, it’s 10 per 10%. Gosh.

150 00:09:58.828 00:10:01.689 Nicolas Sucari: and it should be cash. You cannot tip on.

151 00:10:01.690 00:10:02.620 Patrick Trainer: Tip on the card. Yeah.

152 00:10:02.620 00:10:04.610 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah. No.

153 00:10:04.610 00:10:07.480 Patrick Trainer: Europe. It’s like offensive to to.

154 00:10:08.720 00:10:10.919 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I don’t think it. I don’t know.

155 00:10:10.920 00:10:12.140 Patrick Trainer: It’s

156 00:10:12.320 00:10:14.729 Patrick Trainer: it’s like, I understand it

157 00:10:14.860 00:10:19.410 Patrick Trainer: here, like, it’s pretty. It’s almost. It’s gotten to a ridiculous point here.

158 00:10:19.410 00:10:21.000 Uttam Kumaran: It’s ridiculous now, sometimes.

159 00:10:21.000 00:10:23.773 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, it’s it’s like I went to.

160 00:10:24.820 00:10:29.329 Patrick Trainer: it’s like a sub sandwich shop like a subway right? And.

161 00:10:29.330 00:10:30.259 Nicolas Sucari: You don’t see that.

162 00:10:30.260 00:10:36.169 Patrick Trainer: You pay with a credit card. And now it’s like, Do you want to tip 25%? I’m like, no, Willie.

163 00:10:36.170 00:10:36.880 Nicolas Sucari: No.

164 00:10:37.590 00:10:40.890 Patrick Trainer: It’s like fast food, like I’m not like what

165 00:10:41.070 00:10:41.930 Patrick Trainer: and yes.

166 00:10:41.930 00:10:43.610 Uttam Kumaran: Like like I don’t know. I just think like.

167 00:10:43.610 00:10:44.280 Patrick Trainer: For a tip.

168 00:10:44.870 00:10:54.339 Uttam Kumaran: People. I there’s a whole host of ways like sometimes in here, like people don’t pay livable wages. So like in Texas, where the the minimum wage is so low

169 00:10:54.350 00:10:58.210 Uttam Kumaran: some places only survive. The the workers only survive on tips.

170 00:10:58.340 00:11:11.599 Uttam Kumaran: So like but for restaurants, I’ll tip 20%. So the only place I tip. Otherwise, like, I go to a coffee shop where I basically built this business, sitting in that coffee shop for like alone for like 6 months, so I give them like a dollar.

171 00:11:13.040 00:11:19.099 Uttam Kumaran: you know, and I will go there almost like once or twice a week, and I used all their wi-fi, and like.

172 00:11:19.400 00:11:26.229 Uttam Kumaran: you know, they’re they’re they’re they know me. So I I give them a dollar here and there, but otherwise, yeah, for, like big chains.

173 00:11:26.300 00:11:29.470 Uttam Kumaran: Well, I’m not gonna give you a dollar price. The thing appropriately.

174 00:11:29.700 00:11:36.539 Patrick Trainer: Right? Yeah, like, that’s the thing, too. It’s like, like with restaurants and whatnot like, I mean, I tip just because it’s

175 00:11:36.550 00:11:41.340 Patrick Trainer: like you’re supposed to, but it’s like my personal stance on. It is like

176 00:11:41.520 00:11:45.430 Patrick Trainer: like restaurants say, like, Oh, we can’t afford to

177 00:11:45.740 00:11:53.590 Patrick Trainer: paid our waiters like a full wage, and it’s like, if you can’t afford to pay your employees like you shouldn’t be a business.

178 00:11:53.590 00:11:54.150 Uttam Kumaran: Shouldn’t be.

179 00:11:54.150 00:11:55.090 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, exactly.

180 00:11:55.790 00:12:04.530 Patrick Trainer: Then, yeah, then you’re like, don’t ask your your customers to subsidize your costs like fuck off like.

181 00:12:04.530 00:12:08.629 Uttam Kumaran: Or raise your prices. But but like that’s the thing. Now in Austin, you see.

182 00:12:08.780 00:12:11.720 Uttam Kumaran: prices for stuff is are very expensive here

183 00:12:12.070 00:12:12.960 Uttam Kumaran: like.

184 00:12:13.530 00:12:19.100 Uttam Kumaran: and there’s so so I don’t know. I think you have to balance how you do it. Some of it is a perception thing. Some of it is like.

185 00:12:19.180 00:12:24.390 Uttam Kumaran: if squares like, Hey, you can turn on tipping, and you’ll just make way more money. And then it’s like, turn it on whatever.

186 00:12:24.480 00:12:27.449 Uttam Kumaran: And that’s basically how these guys are making that decision. I feel like.

187 00:12:27.450 00:12:29.020 Patrick Trainer: Right? Right?

188 00:12:29.400 00:12:31.070 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, it’s

189 00:12:31.110 00:12:32.120 Patrick Trainer: there’s

190 00:12:32.240 00:12:38.839 Patrick Trainer: there’s some restaurants that have that are like challenging the thing and being like, no, we’re actually going to

191 00:12:39.350 00:12:52.949 Patrick Trainer: like, pay. Our restaurant people like fair wages give them benefits. And like, they’re just upfront about it. They’re like, yeah, our food’s going to be expensive because of that. But like don’t feel obliged to tip

192 00:12:53.020 00:12:59.410 Patrick Trainer: and like. Now, our average tenure of employee is like over 2 years rather than 3 months.

193 00:13:00.110 00:13:00.900 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

194 00:13:01.890 00:13:04.910 Patrick Trainer: So it’s it’s making it all like a lot better.

195 00:13:04.950 00:13:09.319 Patrick Trainer: But then there’s of course, all the places that are like.

196 00:13:10.110 00:13:17.900 Patrick Trainer: Like. No, they because so Nico, here, there’s like a a minimum wage. And then there’s a minimum. There’s a server wage.

197 00:13:18.140 00:13:20.060 Patrick Trainer: and which is like.

198 00:13:20.430 00:13:24.379 Patrick Trainer: probably like 30% of the minimum wage.

199 00:13:24.430 00:13:25.949 Patrick Trainer: And it’s like.

200 00:13:26.060 00:13:34.250 Patrick Trainer: so minimum wage in Louisiana is like ridiculous. It’s 7, 25 like it’s you can’t live on that.

201 00:13:34.250 00:13:34.620 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.

202 00:13:34.620 00:13:37.020 Patrick Trainer: Server wage is 2 50.

203 00:13:37.210 00:13:37.849 Patrick Trainer: That’s crazy.

204 00:13:37.850 00:13:38.440 Uttam Kumaran: Crazy.

205 00:13:38.440 00:13:39.510 Patrick Trainer: Right?

206 00:13:41.220 00:13:49.109 Patrick Trainer: Absolutely insane. It’s yeah. So it it’s the Louisiana minimum wage matches the Federal minimum wage.

207 00:13:49.130 00:13:50.349 Patrick Trainer: And it’s like

208 00:13:50.540 00:13:53.990 Patrick Trainer: what 40 h at 7, 25 is like with.

209 00:13:53.990 00:13:54.300 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

210 00:13:54.300 00:13:55.350 Patrick Trainer: 100 bucks

211 00:13:56.660 00:13:57.610 Patrick Trainer: and.

212 00:13:57.610 00:13:59.189 Uttam Kumaran: If you can’t do anything here for that.

213 00:13:59.190 00:14:08.320 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, this is, you can’t do anything. It’s like you get absolutely nothing. And that’s like, before taxes. So people are netting like

214 00:14:08.360 00:14:10.270 Patrick Trainer: 250 bucks a week

215 00:14:11.810 00:14:16.710 Patrick Trainer: something like that. And when rent is like $2,000 like that doesn’t even

216 00:14:16.960 00:14:17.920 Patrick Trainer: add up.

217 00:14:20.050 00:14:25.829 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, I. The Us is has a I mean, the inflation is has been like horrible this year.

218 00:14:27.430 00:14:30.909 Uttam Kumaran: I’m just. I’m just lucky that I’m not no longer in New York.

219 00:14:31.910 00:14:32.690 Patrick Trainer: Oh, yeah.

220 00:14:32.690 00:14:34.119 Uttam Kumaran: Would have been brutal.

221 00:14:36.830 00:14:38.589 Nicolas Sucari: You don’t know what brutal is.

222 00:14:38.810 00:14:42.400 Uttam Kumaran: No, I mean, look, I’m talking for like inflation. But like.

223 00:14:42.910 00:14:43.630 Uttam Kumaran: yeah.

224 00:14:43.630 00:14:50.929 Nicolas Sucari: Here in Argentina was crazy. Man, not right? Like right? Now, we are kind of yeah. Slowing down that inflation. We.

225 00:14:50.930 00:14:51.640 Patrick Trainer: Oh, yeah.

226 00:14:51.640 00:14:52.810 Nicolas Sucari: The new President, but.

227 00:14:52.810 00:14:54.601 Patrick Trainer: 1 million dollar bills and stuff.

228 00:14:54.960 00:15:01.710 Nicolas Sucari: No, no, no, no! Biggest deal now is 10,000 pesos, Argentina, Argentinian pesos.

229 00:15:01.890 00:15:02.670 Patrick Trainer: Yeah.

230 00:15:02.670 00:15:03.550 Nicolas Sucari: Like this.

231 00:15:04.040 00:15:05.760 Nicolas Sucari: this is $10.

232 00:15:06.900 00:15:08.539 Nicolas Sucari: $10. Yeah.

233 00:15:09.700 00:15:11.230 Nicolas Sucari: Okay, crazy man.

234 00:15:11.280 00:15:14.049 Nicolas Sucari: it’s our biggest like, yeah.

235 00:15:14.390 00:15:16.549 Patrick Trainer: I think it was. It was like Brazil.

236 00:15:16.780 00:15:19.520 Patrick Trainer: Brazil had the the 1 million dollar bill.

237 00:15:19.520 00:15:20.400 Nicolas Sucari: No.

238 00:15:20.500 00:15:23.679 Nicolas Sucari: the 1 million dollar ones, I think, is chile, chile. They have.

239 00:15:23.680 00:15:24.429 Patrick Trainer: That might have been it.

240 00:15:24.430 00:15:26.460 Nicolas Sucari: Vegas. Yeah.

241 00:15:26.490 00:15:29.889 Nicolas Sucari: I don’t know Brazil. No Brazil now. They have realis, and

242 00:15:29.930 00:15:32.189 Nicolas Sucari: I don’t have here Brazilian currency.

243 00:15:32.220 00:15:36.400 Nicolas Sucari: I come Uruguay, Uruguay. It’s kind of Argentina right now. But

244 00:15:36.430 00:15:42.200 Nicolas Sucari: yeah, they they have been like stable for long time now. So they are doing good.

245 00:15:43.880 00:15:44.890 Nicolas Sucari: But yeah.

246 00:15:46.280 00:15:49.479 Nicolas Sucari: and Argentina, we use cases for our iphones.

247 00:15:55.650 00:15:56.110 Patrick Trainer: Hold on!

248 00:15:56.110 00:16:00.244 Uttam Kumaran: Just got the so we we just finalized like all of our insurance

249 00:16:01.380 00:16:02.830 Uttam Kumaran: man dude like

250 00:16:03.050 00:16:08.750 Uttam Kumaran: it’s just like find. Just find some way of fucking, taking the money away from the company.

251 00:16:09.075 00:16:16.729 Uttam Kumaran: It’s like, it’s like we need a lot of. So to work with some clients like we just need a lot of insurance, and I was like in the middle of getting policies. But

252 00:16:17.180 00:16:21.492 Uttam Kumaran: you know we I just figured out. The nice thing is, I have a friend here who is a

253 00:16:22.120 00:16:30.469 Uttam Kumaran: who’s a insurance broker who was like he’s like a really close friend when he’s like, I’ll just get it for you, and I’ll just give it to you at cost, like I won’t make take any money off

254 00:16:30.870 00:16:35.819 Uttam Kumaran: and I’m actually trying to work with him to see how we can sell data into insurance business. But

255 00:16:36.364 00:16:40.500 Uttam Kumaran: we need like cyber. We need like all sorts of stuff. And

256 00:16:40.690 00:16:42.980 Uttam Kumaran: it’s just like insurance is just.

257 00:16:43.120 00:16:47.029 Uttam Kumaran: It’s just like wild. You know, the big insurance story right now. Bracket?

258 00:16:47.300 00:16:51.370 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yeah, I mean, it’s a math problem. But it’s like.

259 00:16:52.310 00:16:53.290 Patrick Trainer: Absolute racket.

260 00:16:54.830 00:17:00.389 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, like, I think I think the Us. Government should just like, I think, insurance should be provided

261 00:17:00.450 00:17:03.450 Uttam Kumaran: by the Government for some of these situations.

262 00:17:05.030 00:17:17.700 Uttam Kumaran: but at the same time I get the insurance market. It’s dude that the big problems in California and Florida, because of the fires and the hurricane, even the one that right now most of Florida, their insurance company won’t even offer you policies.

263 00:17:18.010 00:17:18.650 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

264 00:17:18.650 00:17:20.420 Patrick Trainer: That’s I mean, that’s the same thing here.

265 00:17:20.609 00:17:25.629 Patrick Trainer: and especially like during Katrina, the way a lot of people got fucked over were

266 00:17:26.045 00:17:37.920 Patrick Trainer: like they would have flood insurance right? But the insurance agencies would be like, oh, well, you didn’t have a wind insurance, and wind is what ruined your house.

267 00:17:37.990 00:17:41.809 Patrick Trainer: and it’s like, Are you fucking kidding like the

268 00:17:42.210 00:17:52.460 Patrick Trainer: entire city, flooded like my house? My house is gone. I have home insurance like, I don’t have a house anymore, like, that’s why I pay you. And yeah, it’s.

269 00:17:52.460 00:17:53.620 Nicolas Sucari: That’s crazy.

270 00:17:53.760 00:17:54.300 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.

271 00:17:54.300 00:17:57.299 Uttam Kumaran: When they also the thing is like even for us.

272 00:17:57.840 00:17:59.810 Uttam Kumaran: I can go to like

273 00:17:59.950 00:18:05.009 Uttam Kumaran: a Geico or something, and just be like, give me commercial insurance and they’ll sell me something.

274 00:18:05.040 00:18:11.536 Uttam Kumaran: But insurance isn’t a problem about buying it. It’s actually a problem about making claims.

275 00:18:12.240 00:18:17.939 Uttam Kumaran: and like, okay, if you need the specific clauses, or if you need someone to negotiate on your behalf.

276 00:18:18.030 00:18:24.230 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s why I wanted to go through like a broker, and very luckily I have. I have a friend who does that because

277 00:18:24.280 00:18:36.179 Uttam Kumaran: anytime I have insurance problems, or, for example, if I if a company is like, like, for example, Nico, when we signed by to coco in the agreement, they require us to have this insurance, and they can at any point

278 00:18:36.210 00:18:40.579 Uttam Kumaran: basically ask us for our coi, which is sort of certificate of insurance.

279 00:18:41.086 00:18:45.239 Uttam Kumaran: As we work. I mean, this is the tax of working with

280 00:18:45.270 00:18:50.051 Uttam Kumaran: larger and larger companies is they will have minimum requirements.

281 00:18:50.880 00:18:55.880 Uttam Kumaran: So in order to have that conversation now, I can just loop him in and been like talk to my insurance guy.

282 00:18:56.247 00:19:00.410 Uttam Kumaran: Which is great, but it’s a premium to to do that right. And so

283 00:19:00.680 00:19:02.880 Uttam Kumaran: there’s all these hidden costs.

284 00:19:03.370 00:19:05.220 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, yeah.

285 00:19:06.670 00:19:13.500 Uttam Kumaran: Which is good. I mean, look, I want, I want the way we’re gonna win is by having all this stuff bunned up like. That’s why I wanted to have

286 00:19:13.760 00:19:18.819 Uttam Kumaran: contracts like, we’re getting a bunch of contracts. Redone. I wanted to have insurance like, I want.

287 00:19:19.140 00:19:25.010 Uttam Kumaran: like, I know, a lot of people in this industry and in others, especially here in Austin, who just like

288 00:19:25.040 00:19:27.620 Uttam Kumaran: do business like willy-nilly and like

289 00:19:27.947 00:19:42.659 Uttam Kumaran: I think that’s fine like you can. I’m not saying they they can make it. But there are. There are a lot of risks associated with that, and we’re not trying to just be small and like work for Rando’s like, I want us to go work with the biggest companies. And so

290 00:19:43.230 00:19:46.410 Uttam Kumaran: when when we work with them, like the things that I want

291 00:19:46.490 00:19:48.709 Uttam Kumaran: for us to focus on is

292 00:19:48.750 00:19:50.900 Uttam Kumaran: our pitch and like our value.

293 00:19:51.030 00:19:55.759 Uttam Kumaran: But the this is where deals get lost is like at the last step they’ll be like cool. Do you have insurance? And then

294 00:19:56.308 00:20:00.330 Uttam Kumaran: I’ve been working on trying to get this for like 3 months now. So

295 00:20:00.640 00:20:03.510 Uttam Kumaran: it’s and it’s like taken so long.

296 00:20:04.556 00:20:05.970 Uttam Kumaran: But yeah.

297 00:20:06.400 00:20:07.010 Patrick Trainer: Yeah.

298 00:20:08.120 00:20:13.789 Patrick Trainer: So fun. Fact. New Orleans has the highest car insurance rates in the country.

299 00:20:14.140 00:20:20.529 Patrick Trainer: And it’s it’s because so many people like, I mean the there’s a large portion of the

300 00:20:20.850 00:20:24.799 Patrick Trainer: a majority population is like under the poverty line.

301 00:20:25.060 00:20:33.670 Patrick Trainer: But there’s so many people that just straight up don’t have car insurance that, like the rates, just get jacked up

302 00:20:33.740 00:20:35.539 Patrick Trainer: and like when I tell you like.

303 00:20:36.210 00:20:44.160 Patrick Trainer: there’s so many cars driving around here that straight up don’t even have a license plate on their car.

304 00:20:44.740 00:20:54.960 Patrick Trainer: It’s like it’s absurd like if you’re like driving around and like before, like in Texas. If you see a car without a license plate. You’re like Whoa! That’s like.

305 00:20:55.170 00:20:55.549 Uttam Kumaran: There you go!

306 00:20:55.550 00:20:56.630 Patrick Trainer: Going on like.

307 00:20:56.810 00:20:58.339 Uttam Kumaran: That’s a stolen car.

308 00:20:58.340 00:20:59.130 Patrick Trainer: Yeah.

309 00:20:59.730 00:21:07.649 Patrick Trainer: literally, I like, I drove over the bridge yesterday. I saw 4 cars with no license plate like none, not even like a dealer plate like.

310 00:21:07.680 00:21:14.220 Patrick Trainer: There’s a shit ton of those, too, that people are just like printing out on their printer and laminating, and put it in on their

311 00:21:14.490 00:21:16.500 Patrick Trainer: beat up piece of shit car.

312 00:21:16.530 00:21:19.619 Patrick Trainer: But then there’s like people that just straight up.

313 00:21:19.810 00:21:25.799 Patrick Trainer: no license plate, and it’s it like it’s absolutely insane. And it’s like you think

314 00:21:26.170 00:21:36.730 Patrick Trainer: if you get hit by that person with no, with no license plate or whatever it’s like, they’re not gonna stop and exchange information

315 00:21:38.065 00:21:41.629 Patrick Trainer: like it’s it’s it’s literally the Wild West.

316 00:21:44.680 00:21:45.450 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know

317 00:21:47.596 00:21:57.169 Uttam Kumaran: us is crazy. Us is always like it’s I feel like it’s getting. It’s gotten worse in the last 8 years. 10 years.

318 00:21:57.170 00:21:57.870 Patrick Trainer: Yeah.

319 00:21:58.230 00:21:58.975 Uttam Kumaran: But

320 00:21:59.800 00:22:01.479 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know. It’s just it.

321 00:22:01.910 00:22:02.600 Patrick Trainer: Yeah.

322 00:22:02.600 00:22:05.640 Uttam Kumaran: Also, now that I’m now that I’m running a business

323 00:22:05.780 00:22:08.240 Uttam Kumaran: becoming more Republican for all cuz

324 00:22:10.070 00:22:13.729 Uttam Kumaran: it’s so expensive. Dude man, it’s so expensive.

325 00:22:15.020 00:22:17.079 Patrick Trainer: No, I I know.

326 00:22:17.080 00:22:21.760 Uttam Kumaran: And I it’s like, I don’t know. It’s tough. It’s tough to be like, I’ve become a Republican. I’m just becoming like.

327 00:22:21.830 00:22:26.829 Uttam Kumaran: Damn, what has the Government helped us on in terms of my business, like nothing.

328 00:22:26.950 00:22:27.620 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

329 00:22:27.620 00:22:30.099 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, that it’s I’m

330 00:22:30.150 00:22:34.570 Patrick Trainer: the same way, like I mean, since starting to make like

331 00:22:34.720 00:22:40.830 Patrick Trainer: like tech salaries and whatnot, it’s like, I don’t want to be taxed like this like

332 00:22:40.960 00:22:42.880 Patrick Trainer: hell. No, but.

333 00:22:42.880 00:22:43.159 Uttam Kumaran: Back, in.

334 00:22:43.160 00:22:44.579 Patrick Trainer: Day when I was like

335 00:22:44.710 00:22:50.699 Patrick Trainer: making nothing, and poor, I was like, oh, no! I want all the incentives I can get.

336 00:22:51.310 00:22:58.509 Uttam Kumaran: It’s also like I don’t know. In New York there’s New York, there’s Federal State and New York City Manhattan tax.

337 00:22:58.990 00:23:00.499 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, yeah, that’s the same. Here.

338 00:23:00.670 00:23:01.730 Uttam Kumaran: It’s brutal.

339 00:23:02.740 00:23:07.439 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, it’s like, we’ve got the shittiest roads and like the highest taxes.

340 00:23:07.960 00:23:10.779 Patrick Trainer: And it’s like what the what is going on.

341 00:23:15.030 00:23:16.019 Uttam Kumaran: It’s like, my.

342 00:23:16.020 00:23:17.909 Patrick Trainer: Power goes out like once a week.

343 00:23:24.660 00:23:26.270 Patrick Trainer: Oh, what was I looking up

344 00:23:26.450 00:23:27.140 Patrick Trainer: so.

345 00:23:29.550 00:23:33.899 Uttam Kumaran: I think it might just be us here, but I’m just. I’m just cooking so.

346 00:23:35.470 00:23:36.336 Patrick Trainer: Seen more

347 00:23:37.310 00:23:39.709 Patrick Trainer: Cybertrucks driving around.

348 00:23:40.410 00:23:42.140 Uttam Kumaran: There’s a lot of cybertrucks here.

349 00:23:44.024 00:23:47.689 Uttam Kumaran: There’s gonna be something to use soon. Looks like he wants to go big. There.

350 00:23:47.690 00:23:48.769 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, I hope

351 00:23:49.060 00:23:56.709 Nicolas Sucari: I’m wondering what’s gonna happen when Tesla come out and they are driving, and then we don’t have where to charge them. It will be really funny.

352 00:23:58.430 00:24:00.869 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, you know, yeah.

353 00:24:01.900 00:24:05.710 Nicolas Sucari: because we don’t have that infrastructure. I don’t know. But.

354 00:24:05.710 00:24:06.100 Patrick Trainer: Yeah.

355 00:24:06.100 00:24:09.989 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, it would be kind of interesting to see how that develops here.

356 00:24:11.490 00:24:17.600 Patrick Trainer: They’re so crazy to like. See on the road the the Cybertruck. It’s like

357 00:24:17.910 00:24:20.540 Patrick Trainer: like they’re terribly, terribly ugly.

358 00:24:20.920 00:24:21.270 Nicolas Sucari: Yes.

359 00:24:21.270 00:24:25.869 Patrick Trainer: They like they they stick out so much. And it’s just yeah.

360 00:24:25.970 00:24:27.689 Patrick Trainer: It’s it’s funny.

361 00:24:28.450 00:24:30.133 Nicolas Sucari: When I when I went

362 00:24:30.500 00:24:49.495 Nicolas Sucari: to Miami. I’ve seen people with like cyber truck here and the Ferrari next to it. They were like taking pictures of the cyber truck, and it was like crazy. I mean, it’s it’s so ugly. But it’s I don’t know why it’s so hyped up.

363 00:24:50.240 00:24:52.540 Nicolas Sucari: yeah, it’s really interesting.

364 00:24:52.540 00:24:57.489 Patrick Trainer: Miami’s definitely like, cool. You get to see a lot of like really sweet cars.

365 00:24:58.580 00:24:59.240 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.

366 00:24:59.470 00:25:00.589 Patrick Trainer: And there’s a lot of.

367 00:25:01.910 00:25:03.049 Nicolas Sucari: I know it’s

368 00:25:03.100 00:25:04.670 Nicolas Sucari: yeah. It growed a lot.

369 00:25:04.670 00:25:06.429 Patrick Trainer: Paying money, remnants.

370 00:25:08.475 00:25:08.790 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.

371 00:25:11.006 00:25:12.350 Nicolas Sucari: But it’s really nice.

372 00:25:12.580 00:25:17.460 Nicolas Sucari: I don’t know Argentinian people really like Miami. I don’t know why it’s really Latino. There.

373 00:25:17.730 00:25:22.599 Patrick Trainer: Yeah. Yeah. Lot of lot of Cubans. A lot of Puerto Ricans, a lot of Spanish.

374 00:25:24.430 00:25:25.050 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.

375 00:25:26.380 00:25:32.539 Nicolas Sucari: yeah. I mean, you can go and talk Spanish to everyone. And most of the people will all know Spanish. Yeah.

376 00:25:32.540 00:25:42.979 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, yeah, it’s it’s almost like by default, like my mom, and have like family that lives in Fort Lauderdale. And like, like, just north of Miami.

377 00:25:43.130 00:25:43.390 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.

378 00:25:43.390 00:25:46.699 Patrick Trainer: It’s like every everything there is. It’s all in Spanish.

379 00:25:47.850 00:25:48.610 Patrick Trainer: Yeah.

380 00:25:55.540 00:25:57.089 Patrick Trainer: yeah, a lot of Spanish

381 00:25:57.300 00:25:59.990 Patrick Trainer: lot of Jewish people. And then a lot of old people.

382 00:25:59.990 00:26:00.680 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah

383 00:26:02.990 00:26:09.060 Nicolas Sucari: in Fort Lauderdale. Yeah, I went when I went. Now I went more to the south to Brickel.

384 00:26:09.738 00:26:17.290 Nicolas Sucari: Kind of I don’t know if you know about that, but it’s kind of new place there in Miami next to South Beach.

385 00:26:17.410 00:26:19.829 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, really nice. I mean, it’s

386 00:26:20.440 00:26:24.730 Nicolas Sucari: really cool. I mean, you can. Yeah, walk around. See?

387 00:26:24.730 00:26:27.439 Uttam Kumaran: Berkel’s supposed to be like the best area right now.

388 00:26:27.700 00:26:29.920 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, yeah, it’s amazing.

389 00:26:31.214 00:26:51.970 Nicolas Sucari: Because I I knew like I, I went to Miami before. But like, you need to rent a car and that kind of stuff to move around, and you need to always use the car to go if you wanna go out for dinner or something you need the car. But if you’re in Brickell you just can go out walking. And yeah, you’ll find a lot of things to walking distance.

390 00:26:52.630 00:26:57.130 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, that’s the thing like driving down there. Such a pain in the ass

391 00:26:58.260 00:27:02.819 Patrick Trainer: like it. It really sucks. And it’s like, there’s no sort of like.

392 00:27:03.220 00:27:06.189 Patrick Trainer: like they have buses and stuff. But like

393 00:27:06.610 00:27:11.999 Patrick Trainer: there’s it’s not like in New York, where they have like public transportation, or like trains.

394 00:27:12.000 00:27:14.740 Nicolas Sucari: Well, no, yeah, they don’t have no.

395 00:27:15.920 00:27:16.650 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.

396 00:27:23.230 00:27:25.009 Patrick Trainer: All right. Well.

397 00:27:30.760 00:27:32.770 Patrick Trainer: it’s been a good meeting.

398 00:27:34.810 00:27:35.710 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.

399 00:27:38.110 00:27:44.540 Nicolas Sucari: I don’t know if we have anything to talk about Ea stuff. I think we’ve talked about everything today already.

400 00:27:45.290 00:27:45.850 Patrick Trainer: We’ve got.

401 00:27:45.850 00:27:47.160 Nicolas Sucari: Been a great week.

402 00:27:47.420 00:27:50.539 Nicolas Sucari: Maybe. I know we’ve been doing a lot.

403 00:27:51.010 00:27:58.232 Nicolas Sucari: I don’t know. We talked we do, Tom, on Tuesday, and we say, Hey, it’s really it’s now Tuesday. And we already have done so many things.

404 00:27:58.840 00:28:00.439 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, right? Yeah.

405 00:28:01.290 00:28:18.730 Uttam Kumaran: I think it’s been an incredible week, I think. Like, you know, I’m glad I’ve been. You know there’s all these people that are joining. But I think, really, all the investment of new people is all on the sales side. So the nice thing in August for me was like figuring out, Okay, how do we do? Content? How do we do sales? And now

406 00:28:18.730 00:28:32.530 Uttam Kumaran: I had enough understanding on how to bring people to like take on most of that. So, like, you know, Ryan, taking on all the content stuff has been huge like we publish more blog posts, push 4 times more blog post than we did before in one week, 4 times 0.

407 00:28:32.530 00:28:33.120 Nicolas Sucari: Okay.

408 00:28:33.270 00:28:38.850 Uttam Kumaran: Like we have all the sales so like what everything took us like investing that time, anyway. So I’m glad.

409 00:28:40.380 00:28:41.070 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah.

410 00:28:41.570 00:28:42.919 Nicolas Sucari: It’s be a good week.

411 00:28:45.270 00:28:46.049 Uttam Kumaran: With us.

412 00:28:46.640 00:28:48.920 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t want to keep you, but enjoy the weekend.

413 00:28:49.590 00:28:51.070 Patrick Trainer: Yeah, you’ll, too.

414 00:28:51.070 00:28:52.150 Nicolas Sucari: Yeah, you, too.

415 00:28:52.510 00:28:53.780 Nicolas Sucari: have a nice weekend.

416 00:28:53.810 00:28:54.889 Nicolas Sucari: Bye. Bye.

417 00:28:55.230 00:28:55.970 Nicolas Sucari: bye.