Meeting Title: Brainforge x ABC Weekly Sync Date: 2026-02-02 Meeting participants: Robert Tseng, Sheshu Chandrasekar, Amber Lin, Uttam Kumaran, Mustafa Raja, Casie Aviles
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1 00:00:09.250 ⇒ 00:00:10.170 Robert Tseng: Ugh.
2 00:00:34.690 ⇒ 00:00:35.690 Sheshu Chandrasekar: Hey, Robert!
3 00:01:21.540 ⇒ 00:01:23.049 Sheshu Chandrasekar: Hey, Robert, how’s it going?
4 00:01:24.680 ⇒ 00:01:25.310 Robert Tseng: Did you?
5 00:01:26.470 ⇒ 00:01:27.530 Robert Tseng: Good, how are you?
6 00:01:27.830 ⇒ 00:01:28.510 Sheshu Chandrasekar: Good.
7 00:01:31.220 ⇒ 00:01:32.499 Sheshu Chandrasekar: How’s your weekend?
8 00:01:33.630 ⇒ 00:01:42.480 Robert Tseng: Weekend was good. I was, went ice skating with my wife, and then just pretty much stayed indoors yesterday.
9 00:01:42.890 ⇒ 00:01:48.530 Sheshu Chandrasekar: Nice, that’s… that sounds like a… a good balance of relaxation, and just doing things.
10 00:01:48.940 ⇒ 00:01:50.259 Robert Tseng: Yeah. What about you?
11 00:01:50.650 ⇒ 00:01:57.449 Sheshu Chandrasekar: Pretty good. I’ve been, I’ve been sick, like, last week on Friday, so I’ve just been just resting up, taking meds.
12 00:01:57.450 ⇒ 00:01:57.940 Robert Tseng: Oh, no.
13 00:01:58.070 ⇒ 00:02:07.140 Sheshu Chandrasekar: Yeah. Yeah. But I feel a lot better today. Still feel like I’m in the tail end of the, the cold. Okay. Yeah, but…
14 00:02:07.270 ⇒ 00:02:08.560 Sheshu Chandrasekar: Way better, for sure.
15 00:02:08.560 ⇒ 00:02:16.270 Robert Tseng: Yeah, Luke also, caught the flu, so he’s… he was out Friday, he’s out today. We’ll see if he comes back tomorrow.
16 00:02:16.730 ⇒ 00:02:25.709 Sheshu Chandrasekar: Oh gosh, yeah, I… I feel like there’s, like, a more subtle version of the flu going around, because, like, I didn’t have, like, any feverish symptoms, but it was bad.
17 00:02:26.020 ⇒ 00:02:26.760 Robert Tseng: Oh, yeah?
18 00:02:26.760 ⇒ 00:02:27.360 Sheshu Chandrasekar: Yeah.
19 00:02:28.480 ⇒ 00:02:31.340 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, it’s this time of year, just gotta…
20 00:02:31.450 ⇒ 00:02:37.809 Robert Tseng: Yeah, hope for… hope for a fast, quick, quick recovery. Sounds like you’re… I mean, you sound… you sound okay, like… Yeah, I sound…
21 00:02:37.810 ⇒ 00:02:42.789 Sheshu Chandrasekar: Way better now, yeah. On Friday, I was, like, I was done. Yeah. Yeah.
22 00:02:46.740 ⇒ 00:02:52.129 Robert Tseng: Okay, yeah, I mean, these are quick, so we’ll just kind of jump into it now.
23 00:02:54.130 ⇒ 00:03:12.020 Robert Tseng: the folks on Eden won’t be here, because they’re kind of going through some… something urgent there, so maybe Amber, I mean, I know we connected on Friday, but is there anything else you wanted to kind of chat about on either ABC? Probably, Abby. You don’t have to join the Eden stand, I’m probably going to cancel it next.
24 00:03:12.020 ⇒ 00:03:24.310 Amber Lin: Okay. I think the first part of the week, I’ll have to work on ABC, because the final presentation’s on Wednesday. Yeah. So once that’s done, I’ll be able to do Eden. So the…
25 00:03:24.310 ⇒ 00:03:36.039 Amber Lin: only action item for Eden will be I’ll ask, Brad for meetings and for context, and then after the final presentation is done, I’ll start doing the Eden analysis.
26 00:03:36.050 ⇒ 00:03:39.539 Amber Lin: And then for ABC,
27 00:03:40.220 ⇒ 00:03:54.429 Amber Lin: again, it’s one on the dream data, and two, just to polish off the modeling. I don’t think there’s a lot left there, but that’s something they were very interested in, and I think it’ll be good to put that in the final presentation.
28 00:03:55.210 ⇒ 00:03:56.500 Robert Tseng: Okay, cool.
29 00:04:01.100 ⇒ 00:04:11.900 Robert Tseng: Yeah, well, I mean, I can… on… on elements, I guess there is a, like, a strategy analysis component to it, so… I mean, Oasis is on this call, but we were… I’m gonna send out the,
30 00:04:13.350 ⇒ 00:04:30.619 Robert Tseng: I reworked their spreadsheet thing on Friday. I just needed him to check a couple… couple, like, weird data things I was noticing, but otherwise I’ll send a… I think he already responded, so I’ll probably send that out to Shivani today. And then…
31 00:04:31.750 ⇒ 00:04:48.839 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, I guess since we’re not doing Eden Stand Up, for me, it’s… I think there’s a reworking data documentation, have a new set of requirements for, like, the next version of executive reports that they want, given that they… they’re basically adding…
32 00:04:48.940 ⇒ 00:05:02.350 Robert Tseng: Meta and TikTok as new channels that they’re expanding into, and they just want a different look of the business that wasn’t really being captured with our existing Tableau reports. So, kind of, like, scoping it out and using that as, like, a good
33 00:05:02.350 ⇒ 00:05:15.270 Robert Tseng: kind of example of, like, what we could aim to build in Omni when we do the migration later this month. So, yeah, it’s gonna be a big… it’s gonna be a big project, but that’s, that’s what I’m trying to get.
34 00:05:15.720 ⇒ 00:05:18.110 Robert Tseng: On the roadmap today, tomorrow.
35 00:05:18.650 ⇒ 00:05:24.780 Uttam Kumaran: Can I… can we talk about the data, or spend a few minutes end of this call on the data platform docs? Just, I have a couple questions.
36 00:05:24.780 ⇒ 00:05:27.529 Robert Tseng: Yeah, yeah, let’s do it. But, okay, you wanna…
37 00:05:27.530 ⇒ 00:05:27.860 Uttam Kumaran: And then…
38 00:05:27.890 ⇒ 00:05:28.579 Robert Tseng: Do you have anything else?
39 00:05:28.580 ⇒ 00:05:45.159 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, on the ABC side, I also wanted to… I’m gonna be working on that in my, like, focus block after this, like, so I’ll send over… I got some stuff from Cutter, I’m gonna send over, like, a bit of a slide outline, and then maybe today we can agree on, like, pricing.
40 00:05:45.820 ⇒ 00:05:50.559 Uttam Kumaran: Do you have, like, 30 minutes, maybe, like, end of the day?
41 00:05:53.080 ⇒ 00:05:57.550 Uttam Kumaran: And I can just run that through you, or I can send it to you as soon as I have something.
42 00:05:57.550 ⇒ 00:06:01.680 Robert Tseng: Yeah, you can just send it if you want to, but yeah, I can take a call later today.
43 00:06:01.880 ⇒ 00:06:03.110 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, great.
44 00:06:05.130 ⇒ 00:06:10.449 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. And then, yeah, I think, Amber, I mentioned to,
45 00:06:10.570 ⇒ 00:06:15.189 Uttam Kumaran: ABC team to try to get you… I think Mustafa’s gonna try to get you all the dream data in.
46 00:06:15.730 ⇒ 00:06:20.070 Uttam Kumaran: The one thing we didn’t present is on,
47 00:06:20.550 ⇒ 00:06:23.379 Uttam Kumaran: On, like, the commercial side of the business?
48 00:06:23.690 ⇒ 00:06:26.709 Uttam Kumaran: So I think that, and then any of the follow-ups.
49 00:06:26.810 ⇒ 00:06:35.200 Uttam Kumaran: on the service… cross-service stuff would be great. I’ll also today share with you, like, what the outline for the final presentation is. I’m gonna cherry-pick
50 00:06:35.680 ⇒ 00:06:38.620 Uttam Kumaran: Basically, the best slides from everything.
51 00:06:38.990 ⇒ 00:06:46.670 Uttam Kumaran: And I… I do… I do think it would be great to have you present.
52 00:06:46.960 ⇒ 00:06:58.470 Uttam Kumaran: And my gut instinct is to have the Brainforge team, the people that did it, present, because it’ll show, sort of, like, how many people were kind of involved. And then I’ll be in the room, Clarence and I will both be in the room.
53 00:06:58.870 ⇒ 00:07:01.750 Uttam Kumaran: Kind of doing our usual. So,
54 00:07:02.040 ⇒ 00:07:11.780 Uttam Kumaran: And we can try to do a dry run on that, tomorrow sometime. So, yeah, I’ll send some notes. And then, yeah, on Element, that’s great. I’ll send an update this morning.
55 00:07:11.920 ⇒ 00:07:20.199 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think, Robert, as much as you can push there, and then we can start to evaluate, like, who on the team can start to assist, but…
56 00:07:20.460 ⇒ 00:07:25.450 Uttam Kumaran: We will be nailing the wholesale, and then we’re gonna be building a very similar thing for retail data.
57 00:07:25.450 ⇒ 00:07:26.000 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
58 00:07:26.210 ⇒ 00:07:29.330 Uttam Kumaran: So, as soon as we have the data ready, we can go do that.
59 00:07:29.820 ⇒ 00:07:34.509 Uttam Kumaran: like, As much as you can keep your attention, like, it would be great.
60 00:07:35.240 ⇒ 00:07:39.689 Uttam Kumaran: And they’re off this week, technically, but, like, I’m expecting to…
61 00:07:39.810 ⇒ 00:07:42.280 Uttam Kumaran: That she’s gonna be on, working on stuff, so…
62 00:07:42.580 ⇒ 00:07:43.210 Robert Tseng: Okay.
63 00:07:45.110 ⇒ 00:07:47.439 Uttam Kumaran: Thank you. Oh, this is their Rest and Assess?
64 00:07:48.600 ⇒ 00:07:49.410 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
65 00:07:49.930 ⇒ 00:07:50.500 Robert Tseng: Okay.
66 00:07:51.290 ⇒ 00:07:52.710 Uttam Kumaran: It’s an interesting company.
67 00:07:54.380 ⇒ 00:07:55.729 Robert Tseng: That’s great, I mean…
68 00:07:57.940 ⇒ 00:08:02.570 Robert Tseng: I don’t think there’s… Yeah, I mean, I think it’s a good, it’s a good practice.
69 00:08:03.120 ⇒ 00:08:07.639 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so it’s one of the few companies that we’ve worked for where they have these, like, these, like, actually, like.
70 00:08:08.770 ⇒ 00:08:13.849 Uttam Kumaran: well-thought-out internal operations process that I’m like, oh, okay, maybe we can learn something from them.
71 00:08:13.850 ⇒ 00:08:14.230 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
72 00:08:14.230 ⇒ 00:08:16.500 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
73 00:08:17.480 ⇒ 00:08:26.380 Robert Tseng: Cool. Mustafa, I know you had asked me for some feedback on a roadmap that you sent out to default. Did you end up… how’s that? Anything else there?
74 00:08:27.080 ⇒ 00:08:31.590 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, that’s good. Nothing else on there, we’re good on there.
75 00:08:31.870 ⇒ 00:08:43.939 Mustafa Raja: Apart from that, for, amplitude instrumentation, I believe, Greg will be planning out event and, user properties to track for this week.
76 00:08:45.180 ⇒ 00:08:53.100 Robert Tseng: Okay, yeah, I mean, there are some old looms that I dug up that, like, I finally got around to this weekend, so I’mma send them over to him, but I feel like…
77 00:08:53.410 ⇒ 00:09:01.380 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I’ve never gave him, like, the one-hour walkthrough that I did with other people, so hopefully he can pick it up from the looms that we’ve recorded before.
78 00:09:01.740 ⇒ 00:09:02.390 Mustafa Raja: Yep.
79 00:09:02.710 ⇒ 00:09:03.280 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
80 00:09:06.350 ⇒ 00:09:12.980 Robert Tseng: Okay, cool. Yeah, I mean, I think that’s it. We Tom, we can stay on if you want to talk about documentation. Cool. Yeah.
81 00:09:16.850 ⇒ 00:09:23.700 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so I think I kind of have yours thing open, so yeah, I think one is if we can, agree on, like.
82 00:09:23.860 ⇒ 00:09:27.379 Uttam Kumaran: a template format, and then my next job is to think about how do we
83 00:09:28.040 ⇒ 00:09:34.509 Uttam Kumaran: get it built and maintained, using some type of, AI. So, I’m… I’m thinking about…
84 00:09:34.840 ⇒ 00:09:38.279 Uttam Kumaran: couple options. Like, the… the… the…
85 00:09:38.430 ⇒ 00:09:42.179 Uttam Kumaran: option I have that’s, like, the worst is, like.
86 00:09:42.820 ⇒ 00:09:46.500 Robert Tseng: You can use AI to build it, and then you’ll have to move it to, like, Google Sheets.
87 00:09:46.660 ⇒ 00:09:53.100 Uttam Kumaran: The best is, like, using… Gemini’s inbuilt thing to kind of help maintain some stuff.
88 00:09:53.530 ⇒ 00:10:00.630 Uttam Kumaran: We are attempting… we did build, like, a Google Drive MCP,
89 00:10:00.900 ⇒ 00:10:03.340 Uttam Kumaran: to be able to chat with Google Drive files.
90 00:10:03.340 ⇒ 00:10:03.860 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
91 00:10:03.860 ⇒ 00:10:11.280 Uttam Kumaran: Alternatively, there also is now, like, a cloud for Excel, So…
92 00:10:12.290 ⇒ 00:10:15.680 Uttam Kumaran: Part of this is, like, it just takes… it takes a, like…
93 00:10:16.230 ⇒ 00:10:21.829 Uttam Kumaran: It just takes a while to maintain. So, first is, like, I think this will be going to the EPs for maintenance.
94 00:10:22.200 ⇒ 00:10:22.730 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
95 00:10:22.730 ⇒ 00:10:28.570 Uttam Kumaran: But maybe you could just walk me through this, and I can consider, like, what the best path is to just help them maintain this.
96 00:10:28.830 ⇒ 00:10:46.260 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, there were a few things that were already here before I started to get back into this, but… yeah, some sort of context slide that kind of just, like, gives overview of what people are looking at, links to other things, I think we just need, like, a control center here that just didn’t exist before. So, I mean, I just started putting this together.
97 00:10:46.430 ⇒ 00:10:58.339 Robert Tseng: this roadmap, I mean, this was Henry’s old work that I kind of took on and kind of finished it, so this does kind of capture, like, our… our roadmap, like.
98 00:10:58.420 ⇒ 00:11:12.380 Robert Tseng: Brainforge-sourced ideas, and this does… each of these objectives, or, you know, a few of them, ended up in linear, and we’re kind of executing against those. So, I mean, I don’t expect this to really change. We probably would do this as a quarterly exercise.
99 00:11:12.380 ⇒ 00:11:20.399 Robert Tseng: This is just, like, I’m borrowing kind of the structure that I made for, Element. I haven’t finished putting this together yet, but
100 00:11:20.600 ⇒ 00:11:26.299 Robert Tseng: Yeah, they gave me a set of requirements that I need to basically build a WBR kind of format for them, too.
101 00:11:26.590 ⇒ 00:11:28.850 Robert Tseng: This was Awashi’s, kind of.
102 00:11:29.320 ⇒ 00:11:44.449 Robert Tseng: take on, like, where we’re at with the Basque to Eden OS migration. He basically has it linked, like, 5 tables linked to different Notion pages that just, like, list out all the different fields that
103 00:11:44.480 ⇒ 00:11:50.200 Robert Tseng: I don’t really know why this is helpful, but, like, I guess he was just trying to…
104 00:11:50.590 ⇒ 00:11:55.809 Robert Tseng: Share that, like, this is what we have to replicate in order to,
105 00:11:56.040 ⇒ 00:12:01.129 Robert Tseng: have the same level of, like, feature parity as what we had for Basque.
106 00:12:01.250 ⇒ 00:12:05.450 Robert Tseng: There are no additional, like,
107 00:12:05.830 ⇒ 00:12:12.479 Robert Tseng: fields that the team has created. So, I mean, yeah, like, I think this is, to me, the biggest, like, one of the bigger, like.
108 00:12:13.400 ⇒ 00:12:22.749 Robert Tseng: red flags to me that I don’t really understand how we… the team has been preparing to, like, move over to Surf’s system.
109 00:12:23.550 ⇒ 00:12:26.120 Uttam Kumaran: Also, yeah, I mean, one, I talked to Surf, like.
110 00:12:26.230 ⇒ 00:12:28.719 Uttam Kumaran: The schema is, like, a moving target right now.
111 00:12:29.010 ⇒ 00:12:45.489 Robert Tseng: Yeah, and I understand that it’s different, because he has, like, you know, we’re going straight from the application, there’s, like, 60 plus tables, it’s not just, like, 5 webhooks that we are consuming data from. So, I’m not, like, yeah, I’m not expecting them to, like, nail this now, but, like, I don’t know, it just feels like it’s kind of…
112 00:12:45.490 ⇒ 00:12:50.230 Robert Tseng: Like, I… I don’t know how to share this with the client. Like, what are they gonna do with this? So,
113 00:12:50.500 ⇒ 00:12:58.059 Robert Tseng: yeah, like, I want to let them know, like, where we’re at and what’s coming, and, like, I don’t think this really gets us there. So,
114 00:12:58.650 ⇒ 00:13:06.549 Robert Tseng: this is the core metrics, kind of, like, piece that I feel like every element you have something like this.
115 00:13:06.770 ⇒ 00:13:26.100 Robert Tseng: Yeah, the team made this a while ago, kind of lists out the different dashboards. These are all outdated now, the names have changed. Data sources, sure, but, like, the pipeline, like, I mean, does this help an engineer? Not sure, like, I just… my proxy is Amber just rotated onto this client and went here and didn’t understand any of this.
116 00:13:26.100 ⇒ 00:13:37.629 Robert Tseng: And so she was, like, guessing, and her analysis was pretty slow, because she just, like, didn’t really know how to, like, define things that we supposedly define. So, clearly, this is not really serving the purpose that, I guess.
117 00:13:37.890 ⇒ 00:13:47.570 Robert Tseng: the team had built it for, and it’s obviously not being maintained. So, this is, like, the other red flag that, like, I’m trying to think about, like, how we redo it.
118 00:13:47.660 ⇒ 00:13:59.829 Robert Tseng: In a way that’s actually useful for people who are using Cursor to, like, basically run… do text-to-SQL queries on, on, like, what we have in BigQuery.
119 00:14:00.040 ⇒ 00:14:04.390 Robert Tseng: So yeah, I think this is the one that needs more thought. The other stuff…
120 00:14:04.390 ⇒ 00:14:06.900 Uttam Kumaran: Can I ask you a question? I think,
121 00:14:09.930 ⇒ 00:14:21.660 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so, like, if we break down that thing, what I would have suggested is if Amber went into Eden, the repo, and asked Cursor to explain to me how this metric works.
122 00:14:21.660 ⇒ 00:14:24.219 Robert Tseng: Yeah. It would have went through the lineage and explained.
123 00:14:24.410 ⇒ 00:14:30.180 Uttam Kumaran: So my… my… the point I’m making is how much of this being in Google Sheet
124 00:14:30.560 ⇒ 00:14:34.609 Uttam Kumaran: like, how much is the medium limiting us in this case? Meaning.
125 00:14:34.610 ⇒ 00:14:34.930 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
126 00:14:34.930 ⇒ 00:14:39.919 Uttam Kumaran: Maintaining a Google Sheet, like, is… is going into a Google Sheet and seeing it this way…
127 00:14:40.020 ⇒ 00:14:50.519 Uttam Kumaran: Versus just, like, asking cursor? Yeah, I mean, I don’t… I’m not saying this is the best way to do that. Okay, I guess so that’s my fir… but, like, is there any cli… like, because the client… I can’t… we can’t require the client, right? So…
128 00:14:50.770 ⇒ 00:14:52.610 Uttam Kumaran: My take is that, like.
129 00:14:52.800 ⇒ 00:15:00.129 Uttam Kumaran: you can just generate this on the fly as you need as an analyst, but does the client need to see this? And if so.
130 00:15:00.890 ⇒ 00:15:04.180 Uttam Kumaran: I’m almost, like, want to separate those use cases.
131 00:15:04.180 ⇒ 00:15:04.790 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
132 00:15:05.550 ⇒ 00:15:07.589 Robert Tseng: I mean, so far…
133 00:15:07.910 ⇒ 00:15:22.439 Robert Tseng: I mean, we’ve never had this, like… I mean, I think Zoron recently had a conversation with them on… that we led with, like… like, LTV by cohort. So, like, yeah, like, occasionally the team… the CSOs are picking off…
134 00:15:22.500 ⇒ 00:15:34.490 Robert Tseng: like, certain metrics, and they’re having conversations, because the Eden team’s not looking at this. They’re creating their own definitions, like, you know, so we haven’t really pushed for true, like, metric governance yet.
135 00:15:34.870 ⇒ 00:15:45.990 Robert Tseng: But eventually, like, if we’re going to have that conversation with them and say, hey, this is how we calculate whatever, like, they should… they do need to look at it somehow, and, like, we need to…
136 00:15:46.010 ⇒ 00:15:58.690 Robert Tseng: have that dialogue, which is just… I mean, it hasn’t happened yet. So this has been purely an internal resource, I guess. Like, I don’t think anybody on their team is looking at this. But I agree, like, they should be two separate use cases.
137 00:15:58.860 ⇒ 00:16:04.090 Uttam Kumaran: Can you… can you pull up this stock that I sent you in the Zoom chat? So this is the one that we set up for Element.
138 00:16:05.980 ⇒ 00:16:06.500 Robert Tseng: Okay.
139 00:16:06.540 ⇒ 00:16:10.629 Uttam Kumaran: They want something of this depth, and this needs to be customer-facing.
140 00:16:11.040 ⇒ 00:16:15.110 Uttam Kumaran: So I want you to kind of get a sense of, like.
141 00:16:17.740 ⇒ 00:16:19.169 Robert Tseng: Yep, yep.
142 00:16:23.500 ⇒ 00:16:24.060 Uttam Kumaran: So…
143 00:16:24.060 ⇒ 00:16:27.599 Robert Tseng: Makes sense to me. It’s like a more organized version of whatever this is, yeah.
144 00:16:27.990 ⇒ 00:16:34.209 Uttam Kumaran: But then I would separate the use case, because I’m not going to tell anybody… on our team, I’m gonna say, yo, if you have a question… like, nobody on our team is like.
145 00:16:34.790 ⇒ 00:16:37.990 Uttam Kumaran: la-di-da, like, I want to see all the metrics, like, you know what I mean?
146 00:16:37.990 ⇒ 00:16:38.909 Robert Tseng: Nobody asked, yeah.
147 00:16:38.910 ⇒ 00:16:39.920 Uttam Kumaran: I’m like…
148 00:16:40.180 ⇒ 00:16:51.919 Uttam Kumaran: let’s, like, I think it’s helpful for me to separate those two out, and then in that sense, I have two jobs. There’s one to enable anybody on the team… like, one thing is, like, we’re gonna just enable anybody on the team, like, how do they ask questions?
149 00:16:52.100 ⇒ 00:17:09.529 Uttam Kumaran: And, like, where do they go to do that? This could be part of the context, but then there’s, like, how does this get produced and maintained? So there’s two pieces to that. One is, like, the production of this, I will think about. The maintenance of this, I think we need to have some SLAs with customers. Like, ideally, this is, like.
150 00:17:09.950 ⇒ 00:17:12.809 Uttam Kumaran: Maintain once a month, maybe, to start.
151 00:17:13.190 ⇒ 00:17:14.450 Uttam Kumaran: Or something.
152 00:17:14.579 ⇒ 00:17:19.329 Uttam Kumaran: Like, I don’t know, it’s just tough to… really, to do this manually is hard.
153 00:17:19.490 ⇒ 00:17:25.709 Uttam Kumaran: So I will think about, like, how do I leverage AI to maybe, like, automatically propose some updates to these?
154 00:17:29.960 ⇒ 00:17:32.190 Uttam Kumaran: On a… on some type of cadence.
155 00:17:32.420 ⇒ 00:17:33.130 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
156 00:17:34.200 ⇒ 00:17:34.870 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
157 00:17:36.380 ⇒ 00:17:40.790 Robert Tseng: Well, yeah, I mean, I guess, like, what we… if this basically lives in, like.
158 00:17:41.100 ⇒ 00:17:50.790 Robert Tseng: the source of truth lives in some Markdown file, like, in… in Git, and then, like, there is some script that basically, like, copies this… copies it into this format.
159 00:17:50.860 ⇒ 00:18:05.680 Robert Tseng: great, like, that’s fine. That’s only one… then there’s only one point of, that we have to… for changes. I think that… that works for the customer-facing core metrics. And then, like, obviously for the internal stuff, like, as long as people can just, like.
160 00:18:05.960 ⇒ 00:18:13.790 Robert Tseng: reasonably ask, like, cursor or whatever, then they can figure it out, like, then I think that works for our internal use case.
161 00:18:17.490 ⇒ 00:18:18.230 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
162 00:18:18.230 ⇒ 00:18:18.760 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
163 00:18:22.080 ⇒ 00:18:26.359 Robert Tseng: Okay, so, I mean, I guess in terms of, like, what I will do, I mean…
164 00:18:28.250 ⇒ 00:18:34.230 Uttam Kumaran: But… pick… just… just, like, land… land me with, like, an ideal version of things.
165 00:18:34.650 ⇒ 00:18:35.030 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
166 00:18:35.030 ⇒ 00:18:38.540 Uttam Kumaran: But also, like, I’m gonna make everything look like this. Like, I’m gonna go…
167 00:18:38.540 ⇒ 00:18:45.859 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I might just, like, take this, like, I think this looks fine, like, we should just… I’ll just take it over and basically update this with.
168 00:18:46.050 ⇒ 00:18:49.219 Uttam Kumaran: Like, take a look at the other sheets, by the way, like, go to Data Sources.
169 00:18:49.730 ⇒ 00:18:51.300 Uttam Kumaran: Under in the element sheet.
170 00:18:52.100 ⇒ 00:18:52.759 Robert Tseng: Huh.
171 00:18:53.630 ⇒ 00:18:55.250 Uttam Kumaran: Like, go to data sources.
172 00:18:56.820 ⇒ 00:19:01.040 Uttam Kumaran: Right? So, like, this is really operational, because they need this.
173 00:19:01.400 ⇒ 00:19:02.250 Uttam Kumaran: So if you’re like…
174 00:19:02.250 ⇒ 00:19:07.240 Robert Tseng: That’s what this should have been, which it’s not, it’s more like this for now, so…
175 00:19:07.830 ⇒ 00:19:12.779 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, this was… yeah, so we, like, every… we’re… we’re kind of leveling this up a little bit.
176 00:19:12.780 ⇒ 00:19:21.379 Robert Tseng: Yeah, okay, so it sounds like, you know, the Element version is just the one that we should be… we should… I mean, we should just start to raise the bar across all the other clients with this.
177 00:19:21.380 ⇒ 00:19:26.120 Uttam Kumaran: Let me, yeah, let me spend some time, because I’m going to have to go update a lot of these, and…
178 00:19:26.450 ⇒ 00:19:33.070 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t want to do that, so I will find a way to do it with AI, and then I will see what’s manageable.
179 00:19:33.420 ⇒ 00:19:50.550 Uttam Kumaran: Ideally, if you can talk and make edits to this via cursor, we’re in business. The Gemini shit is, like, not working that well, so I don’t have much faith there. The last resort is there’s, like, you could… there’s a Claude extension for your browser that you can start to edit things.
180 00:19:51.070 ⇒ 00:19:54.029 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, I’ll find some option here.
181 00:19:54.490 ⇒ 00:19:55.080 Robert Tseng: Okay.
182 00:19:55.660 ⇒ 00:20:02.020 Robert Tseng: Yeah, alright, I’m not gonna worry too much about the form, it seems like we have, like, a better version of it already. Like, I think I’m just gonna mostly just…
183 00:20:02.270 ⇒ 00:20:07.369 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I’m just gonna get this, focus more on building this out for them, and then.
184 00:20:07.370 ⇒ 00:20:07.840 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
185 00:20:07.840 ⇒ 00:20:10.749 Robert Tseng: We can… we can chat again in a couple days on the documentation.
186 00:20:10.940 ⇒ 00:20:11.770 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay.
187 00:20:11.930 ⇒ 00:20:12.490 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
188 00:20:14.280 ⇒ 00:20:15.050 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, perfect. Alright.
189 00:20:15.050 ⇒ 00:20:15.570 Robert Tseng: Cool.
190 00:20:15.820 ⇒ 00:20:16.640 Robert Tseng: Alright.
191 00:20:16.810 ⇒ 00:20:17.959 Robert Tseng: I think we’re good.
192 00:20:18.310 ⇒ 00:20:18.790 Uttam Kumaran: Thank you.
193 00:20:18.790 ⇒ 00:20:19.400 Robert Tseng: See ya off.