Meeting Title: ABC Project Allocation and Planning Date: 2025-12-08 Meeting participants: Uttam Kumaran, Clarence Stone, Samuel Roberts, Amber Lin, Demilade Agboola, Rico Rejoso, Awaish Kumar, Robert Tseng


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1 00:01:04.879 00:01:06.140 Samuel Roberts: Hello.

2 00:01:07.160 00:01:08.210 Clarence Stone: Hello, hello?

3 00:01:10.150 00:01:12.879 Samuel Roberts: There we go. -Oh, kitty.

4 00:01:16.510 00:01:19.050 Samuel Roberts: I’m Sam, by the way. I don’t think there’s no…

5 00:01:19.050 00:01:21.050 Clarence Stone: Hey, Sam, great to meet you. I’m Clarence.

6 00:01:21.050 00:01:22.140 Samuel Roberts: Yes.

7 00:01:23.500 00:01:25.109 Clarence Stone: Oh, you’ve already heard. Okay, good.

8 00:01:25.110 00:01:28.499 Samuel Roberts: No, no, no, I see, I can see it, I’m just saying, yeah, yeah, no, I’m just, yeah.

9 00:01:29.880 00:01:36.630 Samuel Roberts: I don’t know, I missed a whole week, so I don’t know where, like, when things have happened, I don’t know, I’m still playing a little catch-up, so…

10 00:01:36.630 00:01:42.700 Clarence Stone: All good. I’ll send you a quick thing later on, we’ll get caught up, I’ll introduce myself, and I’ll talk about you.

11 00:01:42.700 00:01:43.530 Samuel Roberts: That sounds great.

12 00:01:48.710 00:01:49.500 Samuel Roberts: Excellent.

13 00:01:55.240 00:01:59.830 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I was saying earlier, someone, it’s, like, Monday on steroids, coming back from, like, a week and a…

14 00:02:00.040 00:02:01.090 Samuel Roberts: bit off.

15 00:02:02.110 00:02:04.100 Samuel Roberts: A lot of messages, a lot of emails to…

16 00:02:04.600 00:02:07.090 Samuel Roberts: Figure out what’s important, what’s what.

17 00:02:09.419 00:02:11.089 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, how’s the day going so far?

18 00:02:11.550 00:02:15.140 Samuel Roberts: Pretty good! Had a good talk with Surf, getting caught up on Lilo, he’s gonna…

19 00:02:15.250 00:02:21.639 Samuel Roberts: I gave him access to the GitHub so he can get that template that he’s got the repo set up for.

20 00:02:22.440 00:02:30.129 Samuel Roberts: And then hopefully we can start making moves on actually, like, using that template to start a repo that we can start running with, moving a lot of that code over, so…

21 00:02:31.300 00:02:36.530 Uttam Kumaran: What are you, what are you thinking for, Or leave off.

22 00:02:36.980 00:02:40.209 Uttam Kumaran: Like, you guys are just gonna pair on stuff, or how do you think it’s gonna work out?

23 00:02:41.150 00:02:46.599 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I mean, I think we can do that. I want to see, like, what do you have set up in the template already that’s, like…

24 00:02:46.750 00:02:54.039 Samuel Roberts: what things are already gonna be there, what things are gonna have to get migrated, because it’s going from Angular to React, which is gonna be a whole thing, so we probably just need to, like.

25 00:02:54.640 00:03:04.559 Samuel Roberts: coordinate doing what what. I don’t know if we’ll need to pair or not, or just coordinate for the first part of getting things, you know, migrated over from one to the other.

26 00:03:07.870 00:03:12.269 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I’m kind of waiting to see what that template looks like to make sure that it’s all good to run with, but…

27 00:03:12.270 00:03:12.780 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

28 00:03:13.170 00:03:15.060 Samuel Roberts: We’ll connect after that, then, and see.

29 00:03:17.890 00:03:23.189 Samuel Roberts: But I think it’s a good… a good path forward there. I think he has the right instincts there for the tempo and stuff.

30 00:03:24.200 00:03:29.440 Uttam Kumaran: So yeah, then I’m gonna be working on, like, the PRD for the forecasting tool.

31 00:03:29.770 00:03:30.180 Samuel Roberts: Okay.

32 00:03:30.180 00:03:32.190 Uttam Kumaran: And that’s probably what I’ll hand off.

33 00:03:32.620 00:03:37.020 Uttam Kumaran: I think the biggest thing for you guys to let me know is, like, if we need dedicated, like.

34 00:03:37.590 00:03:38.910 Uttam Kumaran: Project management.

35 00:03:39.480 00:03:40.410 Uttam Kumaran: for them.

36 00:03:40.750 00:03:44.329 Samuel Roberts: Okay. Or if, like, you guys can get away with, like, just using.

37 00:03:44.410 00:03:47.890 Uttam Kumaran: Someone to help make tickets, or, like, what’s best, so…

38 00:03:48.410 00:03:53.710 Samuel Roberts: Okay, yeah, we’ll see as it goes along, this first… part, but I think…

39 00:03:54.170 00:04:02.119 Samuel Roberts: I have a pretty good sense of what needs to happen for this migration, so I can… I can maybe even throw tickets together for that, once the template’s there.

40 00:04:02.340 00:04:06.300 Samuel Roberts: And then, yeah, I mean, I guess with that PRD, we’ll see.

41 00:04:10.750 00:04:14.099 Samuel Roberts: I mean, do we have, like, a weekly cadence set up with them and everything?

42 00:04:14.400 00:04:17.120 Uttam Kumaran: We do, we do, yeah. So I can include you in that.

43 00:04:17.500 00:04:20.659 Samuel Roberts: Okay, yeah. I’m just not sure.

44 00:04:21.380 00:04:22.100 Samuel Roberts: Okay.

45 00:04:25.340 00:04:28.090 Uttam Kumaran: When you appears, your video has frozen.

46 00:04:28.960 00:04:33.690 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah… let me switch Wi-Fi’s, and if not, I may just go off again.

47 00:04:48.970 00:04:50.150 Uttam Kumaran: Maybe I’m back?

48 00:05:03.090 00:05:12.059 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so let me go ahead and share, and then we can walk through. So today, I just wanted to probably just start focusing on…

49 00:05:12.440 00:05:20.540 Uttam Kumaran: operating, and I think the biggest thing I just want to go through is make sure all our app and deals are…

50 00:05:20.730 00:05:24.929 Uttam Kumaran: Covered here, and then basically map out

51 00:05:25.500 00:05:30.670 Uttam Kumaran: at least December today, on active deals, and then talk through…

52 00:05:30.890 00:05:35.809 Uttam Kumaran: Anything potential that’s coming, even if it’s in the next, like, month or two.

53 00:05:36.100 00:05:41.320 Uttam Kumaran: I know Awash sort of did a lot of work on the data side.

54 00:05:41.530 00:05:45.540 Uttam Kumaran: To sort of, like, map out allocations.

55 00:05:45.760 00:05:47.950 Uttam Kumaran: I think we’ll still need support.

56 00:05:48.220 00:05:55.389 Uttam Kumaran: From Sam and Robert to… to give us a sense of, like, what’s going on the analytics side, and then the…

57 00:05:55.580 00:05:57.999 Uttam Kumaran: AI, like, app development side.

58 00:05:58.300 00:06:02.329 Uttam Kumaran: But, yeah, let me just get this up.

59 00:06:14.930 00:06:16.200 Uttam Kumaran: Boom.

60 00:06:24.550 00:06:26.210 Uttam Kumaran: I guess they’re all complete.

61 00:06:53.890 00:06:56.209 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, some of these are already done.

62 00:07:12.650 00:07:13.390 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

63 00:07:15.910 00:07:21.090 Uttam Kumaran: So, Urban Stems… This has already ended…

64 00:07:32.160 00:07:34.040 Uttam Kumaran: Managing such,

65 00:07:40.650 00:07:43.650 Uttam Kumaran: So, Wish, did you create new projects for the new…

66 00:07:44.050 00:07:47.869 Uttam Kumaran: clients, or Rico, did you create them?

67 00:07:49.710 00:07:57.700 Awaish Kumar: I, I, I found all of them here, like, if I saw it… Nope.

68 00:07:57.800 00:07:59.190 Awaish Kumar: For element…

69 00:08:03.450 00:08:08.720 Uttam Kumaran: But, like, we don’t have the next Urban Stems deal, or the next ABC Home deal, is that right?

70 00:08:10.360 00:08:13.470 Awaish Kumar: Oh, okay, maybe I use the existing one.

71 00:08:16.470 00:08:18.190 Uttam Kumaran: Is Rico almost?

72 00:08:19.950 00:08:21.980 Rico Rejoso: Yes, I’m looking into it.

73 00:08:23.030 00:08:25.519 Rico Rejoso: Yes, I see some of it on the timeline.

74 00:08:25.520 00:08:27.480 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, maybe we could, we could just…

75 00:08:27.920 00:08:29.869 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I think it’s hung up.

76 00:08:41.309 00:08:42.960 Uttam Kumaran: I just want the…

77 00:08:51.190 00:08:53.389 Uttam Kumaran: Look, I don’t like that piece inside of here.

78 00:09:13.230 00:09:18.109 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I guess, like, I don’t want to see these ones. It’s like these are, like, all old, basically.

79 00:09:27.310 00:09:32.919 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I guess what I’ll do… It’s just simple.

80 00:09:33.310 00:09:35.219 Uttam Kumaran: The confirmed ones.

81 00:09:43.860 00:09:45.570 Uttam Kumaran: And so this one…

82 00:09:57.000 00:09:58.660 Uttam Kumaran: Hang on, this one’s dumb.

83 00:09:58.760 00:10:05.009 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Yeah, I don’t know, Rico, can you just make sure that, like, any of the new clients at least have them? Because…

84 00:10:05.690 00:10:11.769 Uttam Kumaran: Right now, if I’m just seeing a bunch of deals that… I don’t see the newest ABC home deal, I don’t see the…

85 00:10:12.690 00:10:16.059 Uttam Kumaran: The discovery deal for ABC,

86 00:10:20.310 00:10:22.540 Uttam Kumaran: Yes. I guess we can just go…

87 00:10:22.960 00:10:26.420 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I guess, Awash, like, which one do you want to go through?

88 00:10:27.210 00:10:29.919 Uttam Kumaran: First, then, on your side.

89 00:10:32.000 00:10:36.919 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, do you… do we want to go, like, project by project, or the person by person?

90 00:10:38.180 00:10:40.680 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s just… let’s just go through projects first.

91 00:10:43.140 00:10:47.779 Awaish Kumar: Maybe you can… Start with ABC.

92 00:10:53.500 00:10:58.199 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so this, this deal is already, like, over, though.

93 00:10:59.400 00:11:03.040 Uttam Kumaran: Like, this was supposed… this… so, I guess I’m just gonna go ahead and create another deal.

94 00:11:30.130 00:11:31.699 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so who’s on this one?

95 00:11:33.450 00:11:35.379 Awaish Kumar: We have, Ember.

96 00:11:42.610 00:11:43.850 Awaish Kumar: Truly. Okay.

97 00:11:44.380 00:11:47.110 Awaish Kumar: 12.5%, like, 5 hours.

98 00:11:51.830 00:11:52.360 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

99 00:11:58.190 00:12:00.049 Awaish Kumar: And then we have Casey, who is…

100 00:12:00.380 00:12:03.450 Awaish Kumar: Kind of 20… 25% on the spot.

101 00:12:10.410 00:12:17.969 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Maybe as I’m going through this, can we… yeah, so see, these ones… this… this ABC Home Deal is already done.

102 00:12:18.180 00:12:20.630 Uttam Kumaran: Like, because this deal is not…

103 00:12:21.020 00:12:24.370 Uttam Kumaran: So, I’m gonna go ahead and just, like, remove these.

104 00:12:25.320 00:12:29.250 Uttam Kumaran: But, yeah, like, all of this…

105 00:12:29.670 00:12:33.130 Uttam Kumaran: I just don’t know how… Amber, do you know how I can, like, mark this?

106 00:12:33.660 00:12:35.180 Uttam Kumaran: Deal is closed.

107 00:12:36.260 00:12:43.829 Amber Lin: Maybe try the three dots on the top right? Maybe that will have a… We can archive it.

108 00:12:46.310 00:12:47.050 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

109 00:12:47.290 00:12:50.599 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I guess I’ll just remove all the estimations.

110 00:13:16.970 00:13:20.260 Uttam Kumaran: Alright, so you have Amber here, you have.

111 00:13:20.260 00:13:20.860 Awaish Kumar: Cheers.

112 00:13:21.800 00:13:22.730 Uttam Kumaran: Casey…

113 00:13:27.640 00:13:30.969 Awaish Kumar: Currently, he’s, like, spanning, like, 10 hours.

114 00:13:35.230 00:13:36.780 Uttam Kumaran: Really? That seems low.

115 00:13:37.950 00:13:40.509 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, that’s what he told me.

116 00:13:42.230 00:13:42.800 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

117 00:13:51.860 00:13:52.740 Uttam Kumaran: Loss.

118 00:13:53.820 00:13:56.719 Awaish Kumar: And then Mustafa, like, was spending only $5.

119 00:14:02.090 00:14:02.750 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

120 00:14:05.830 00:14:11.319 Awaish Kumar: And then we wanted to add season or not, I don’t know, before we just increase Amber’s time.

121 00:14:16.030 00:14:20.240 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, but I don’t know what is, like, Seven gonna work on this project for?

122 00:14:25.980 00:14:27.160 Awaish Kumar: Robert is here.

123 00:14:29.600 00:14:35.640 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, but… yeah, but like, how did… why did you assign her to this project? Like, I don’t know what… what is she doing on Andy?

124 00:14:36.020 00:14:37.190 Uttam Kumaran: really stop.

125 00:14:39.220 00:14:43.830 Awaish Kumar: No, like, it was more like you mentioned about ABC analysis work.

126 00:14:44.730 00:14:49.149 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, but so we have two deals with ABC right now. We have the stuff we’re doing to support

127 00:14:49.250 00:14:53.190 Uttam Kumaran: Andy, and we have, like, the discovery work, so… Out of the…

128 00:14:53.190 00:14:53.630 Awaish Kumar: Andy, yeah.

129 00:14:53.630 00:15:00.410 Uttam Kumaran: Like, yeah, so for Andy, and then I guess, like, for Sam, like, how much are you spending time on, like, Andy’s stuff for the week?

130 00:15:03.320 00:15:08.739 Samuel Roberts: I don’t know yet, probably…

131 00:15:11.610 00:15:12.720 Uttam Kumaran: On the high end.

132 00:15:13.150 00:15:14.929 Samuel Roberts: On the high end?

133 00:15:16.120 00:15:16.990 Samuel Roberts: Message.

134 00:15:17.360 00:15:20.190 Samuel Roberts: 5 to 10, depending on how much Casey needs me.

135 00:15:20.350 00:15:21.170 Samuel Roberts: Right.

136 00:15:23.460 00:15:29.450 Samuel Roberts: Like, you know, even when I jumped in last week, like, he had it pretty well under control. It wasn’t crazy, but,

137 00:15:31.860 00:15:33.120 Samuel Roberts: That’s probably good now.

138 00:15:35.220 00:15:36.880 Samuel Roberts: I need to opt that, I’ll let you know.

139 00:15:38.590 00:15:39.160 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

140 00:15:44.050 00:15:46.559 Uttam Kumaran: So this is the Andy deal.

141 00:15:46.690 00:15:53.430 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s talk about, like, like, ABC, or… Discovery.

142 00:16:09.000 00:16:10.330 Uttam Kumaran: This is me.

143 00:16:23.940 00:16:29.229 Uttam Kumaran: And then… Yeah, I mean, there’s gonna be an open slot here for, like, an endless.

144 00:16:47.970 00:16:49.259 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s open.

145 00:16:51.380 00:16:56.519 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, that’s probably all I need on this right now.

146 00:17:00.190 00:17:05.130 Uttam Kumaran: I think it’s also just filtered these… Spy.

147 00:17:15.750 00:17:21.200 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so that’s… ABC… In total.

148 00:17:21.690 00:17:26.340 Uttam Kumaran: like, I guess, Amber, like, how… what is… what do you think for… for Andy, like.

149 00:17:26.910 00:17:32.819 Uttam Kumaran: I… I feel like, we’re not, like… doing enough.

150 00:17:33.100 00:17:37.570 Uttam Kumaran: So, like, I think we still have, like, a ton of errors, and I don’t know…

151 00:17:37.570 00:17:37.970 Amber Lin: agree.

152 00:17:37.970 00:17:45.830 Uttam Kumaran: if the team is confident on the migration. So, Sam, the thing yesterday… the thing last week I sort of flagged here is I just don’t… I just don’t think that…

153 00:17:46.560 00:17:54.980 Uttam Kumaran: like, the team to date is sort of, like, pushing this forward fast enough. We still have, like, quite a… we almost have one new issue, like, every week.

154 00:17:55.150 00:17:57.140 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m not sure, like, what to do here.

155 00:17:57.300 00:18:02.649 Uttam Kumaran: My only thought is, like, we have to bring in someone, like, a little bit more senior onto this project.

156 00:18:02.940 00:18:07.100 Uttam Kumaran: But, like, kind of, like, open to your… Thoughts?

157 00:18:08.240 00:18:10.849 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think we really just need to move…

158 00:18:11.420 00:18:14.210 Samuel Roberts: off the N8N, because that’ll let us…

159 00:18:14.410 00:18:20.140 Samuel Roberts: get the notifications, do better testing, like the NADN. We were hitting weird limits on the end that we weren’t even…

160 00:18:20.260 00:18:26.830 Samuel Roberts: aware of until they emailed us, or until we emailed them to get the information. I think it’s really just pushing that migration forward.

161 00:18:26.990 00:18:27.730 Samuel Roberts: And.

162 00:18:27.730 00:18:29.060 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that’s my…

163 00:18:29.060 00:18:29.679 Samuel Roberts: Pushing more.

164 00:18:29.680 00:18:30.490 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

165 00:18:30.710 00:18:31.669 Samuel Roberts: come into that.

166 00:18:33.510 00:18:35.409 Uttam Kumaran: That’s why I’m just not clear, like…

167 00:18:35.600 00:18:38.950 Uttam Kumaran: Like, what needs to happen for that to, like, get done faster?

168 00:18:39.600 00:18:45.419 Uttam Kumaran: Like, I just… I think Casey and Mustafa are just saying yes to, like, basically every client that comes their way, but…

169 00:18:45.530 00:18:52.580 Uttam Kumaran: they’re not able to close this out effectively, and I also think Casey’s… I think they’re both too junior to, like, own that end-to-end.

170 00:18:55.080 00:18:57.649 Samuel Roberts: I mean, I can… I can dedicate more time to that, if that’s…

171 00:18:58.610 00:19:00.029 Samuel Roberts: Where we need to go with that.

172 00:19:01.150 00:19:02.740 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. I don’t have an issue with that.

173 00:19:03.940 00:19:06.809 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I… I don’t know, I guess, like…

174 00:19:07.250 00:19:12.730 Uttam Kumaran: I would… I would rather not put your time here, if you could just direct somebody on how to do it.

175 00:19:12.960 00:19:15.649 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I mean, I have pretty…

176 00:19:15.840 00:19:20.439 Samuel Roberts: pretty good confidence that, like, Casey Mustafa can do that with my guidance, but if you’re…

177 00:19:20.950 00:19:22.710 Samuel Roberts: Worried about that, we can…

178 00:19:24.190 00:19:29.769 Uttam Kumaran: Well, but I guess, like, it’s not… I’m not worried that they can’t do it, but they’re on 4 other clients.

179 00:19:30.070 00:19:31.310 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, each.

180 00:19:33.160 00:19:38.009 Uttam Kumaran: So… my thought is, like, if I… if I…

181 00:19:38.900 00:19:45.779 Uttam Kumaran: I guess my point is that, like, if I’m… we’re gonna most likely bring on another person for AI, like, where do they need to fit?

182 00:19:46.330 00:19:47.140 Uttam Kumaran: You know?

183 00:19:47.700 00:19:48.370 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.

184 00:19:49.690 00:19:50.520 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, then I mean…

185 00:19:52.350 00:19:53.070 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

186 00:19:58.560 00:20:03.399 Samuel Roberts: I’m just trying to think, because, like, I… when we sat down and talked it through the,

187 00:20:03.840 00:20:08.079 Samuel Roberts: the migration and the pieces for… that need to get out of NA to N. It didn’t seem…

188 00:20:08.910 00:20:17.429 Samuel Roberts: crazy, but I understand, like, I don’t have a good sense of what… everything else they’re doing, the last week or so, even, so, like, what is…

189 00:20:17.430 00:20:18.110 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

190 00:20:18.750 00:20:21.540 Uttam Kumaran: like, if you look at, like, Mustafa’s time.

191 00:20:21.760 00:20:22.340 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.

192 00:20:22.340 00:20:27.089 Uttam Kumaran: I guess, like, he doesn’t wait to get into this one, so maybe that’s just, like, fucking use it off.

193 00:21:06.420 00:21:16.260 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’m… I don’t… I… this is also the thing, like, I don’t want to… I don’t want to leverage… we now have two more… we have now… at least one more data person, right? So Ashwini’s coming to help.

194 00:21:16.320 00:21:17.360 Samuel Roberts: So…

195 00:21:17.670 00:21:20.300 Uttam Kumaran: we leverage Casey and Mustafa

196 00:21:20.550 00:21:31.839 Uttam Kumaran: in lieu of having, like, AEs and data analysts, but that’s not their skill set. The one thing I want to express to everyone is, like, we… I can’t… we can’t… like, the risk there is that

197 00:21:31.970 00:21:47.799 Uttam Kumaran: they take on work for clients, and it just doesn’t… like, we’re starting to see some of the limits of Mustafa on default, and they’re just… it’s just a lot slower, like, that’s not… that’s just not what they’re the best at. And so, with Ashwini coming, I want to make sure he’s ramped up to 40 hours on data work.

198 00:21:48.110 00:21:53.139 Uttam Kumaran: And then I want to align Casey and Mustafa back on AI stuff as much as possible.

199 00:21:53.340 00:21:57.669 Uttam Kumaran: Like, I think if there’s simple data analysis things, they can take it on, but…

200 00:21:57.840 00:22:02.330 Uttam Kumaran: I would rather just assign people who are great at that to that work, you know?

201 00:22:02.590 00:22:10.050 Uttam Kumaran: So… I guess that’s what I want to just confirm, like… He’s gonna take on…

202 00:22:10.470 00:22:14.849 Uttam Kumaran: sort of data engineering stuff for default, and Demolati’s gonna come onto there as well.

203 00:22:15.160 00:22:21.249 Uttam Kumaran: he can continue on… on Andy, but my point to Robert was, like, I wanted to move him off of

204 00:22:21.590 00:22:26.519 Uttam Kumaran: read me, and then he has more dedicated time to his existing clients.

205 00:22:26.730 00:22:29.380 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I just met with him and Greg. He’s off.

206 00:22:29.950 00:22:30.570 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

207 00:22:30.750 00:22:31.230 Robert Tseng: Yeah.

208 00:22:31.230 00:22:31.790 Samuel Roberts: Okay.

209 00:22:35.450 00:22:38.780 Robert Tseng: Or I guess he’s closing something out today, but after that, he’s… he’s off.

210 00:22:39.450 00:22:40.030 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

211 00:22:54.360 00:22:55.050 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

212 00:22:55.500 00:22:59.259 Uttam Kumaran: So, I… I think, Sam, it’s gonna be kind of…

213 00:22:59.850 00:23:03.380 Uttam Kumaran: up to you, but I… we can’t have…

214 00:23:03.940 00:23:08.460 Uttam Kumaran: we just can’t have this many errors on AND with, like, with really just, like.

215 00:23:08.820 00:23:12.649 Uttam Kumaran: Neither of them seem confident to me in, like, actually owning the problem.

216 00:23:13.250 00:23:18.830 Uttam Kumaran: So… I can’t… it’s not fair for us to go blame, like, junior folks on, like.

217 00:23:18.830 00:23:19.420 Samuel Roberts: I don’t.

218 00:23:19.420 00:23:27.580 Uttam Kumaran: picking that up, because Casey’s gonna… is just gonna drop it again, and, like, I’m just gonna get mad again, so I don’t wanna… I don’t… I can’t make this mistake 4 times in a row.

219 00:23:27.800 00:23:30.850 Uttam Kumaran: So, we just need a solution. Either…

220 00:23:31.370 00:23:38.170 Uttam Kumaran: you spend more time, or I… or I think we just need someone more senior to own the migration and own…

221 00:23:38.360 00:23:43.329 Uttam Kumaran: the fact that there’s no issues. I don’t think either of them are… I mean, I’ll make the fall, I don’t think either of them are…

222 00:23:43.440 00:23:46.820 Uttam Kumaran: People were giving me the confidence that there’s not gonna be more issues.

223 00:23:47.110 00:23:47.680 Samuel Roberts: Sure.

224 00:23:48.340 00:23:51.199 Uttam Kumaran: Because we can’t… we can’t adopt the product if it’s, like.

225 00:23:51.490 00:23:54.449 Uttam Kumaran: Every week, there’s, like, a fundamental issue, like.

226 00:23:55.190 00:24:00.109 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, it’s… it’s just really difficult for them. And then I’m… I’m gonna get hit up, so…

227 00:24:00.840 00:24:01.440 Samuel Roberts: Right.

228 00:24:05.100 00:24:19.829 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I mean, I guess I have a little more confidence that we can, like, let me and… if we can get Mustafa more time on there, like, to get that migration across the line, and then I think that will help these other, like, notification issues and things that we can start

229 00:24:19.980 00:24:28.090 Samuel Roberts: Cleaning up the… the N8N kind of lack of the testing and alerts that we have, but…

230 00:24:28.090 00:24:28.500 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

231 00:24:30.700 00:24:39.280 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, if he has more time to work on that, especially this week, we could probably get to a point when we can see if it’s gonna work, but I think it will. Okay.

232 00:24:44.130 00:24:46.020 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

233 00:24:49.190 00:24:55.950 Uttam Kumaran: So, we’re thinking about onboarding Pranav as well. My thought was I just have him Help.

234 00:24:56.580 00:25:00.549 Uttam Kumaran: on Andy, and help elsewhere, but, like, we’re gonna… if… if…

235 00:25:00.800 00:25:04.739 Uttam Kumaran: If Mustafa spends more time and you spend more time, we’re gonna run this project at a loss.

236 00:25:05.340 00:25:08.919 Samuel Roberts: Right. So, but these issues… these issues are preventing.

237 00:25:08.970 00:25:11.839 Uttam Kumaran: Us from getting more adoption, because…

238 00:25:12.520 00:25:20.340 Uttam Kumaran: there’s active customers that are not able to use the tool, because it’s not doing the functionality. And so outside of you, I don’t… I have not seen that

239 00:25:20.680 00:25:23.820 Uttam Kumaran: like… Either of them are able to…

240 00:25:24.070 00:25:29.850 Uttam Kumaran: Like, have the capacity to understand those issues, propose solutions, fix it, go back to the customer, like.

241 00:25:30.250 00:25:32.090 Samuel Roberts: I don’t think they can do that.

242 00:25:32.730 00:25:33.560 Uttam Kumaran: So…

243 00:25:34.030 00:25:44.830 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know what to do here except, like, either ramp you up or throw someone more senior on this, because… I don’t know, I don’t feel like… yeah, I agree that they can take it on, but they’re not owning the problem, and nobody.

244 00:25:44.830 00:25:45.430 Samuel Roberts: Right.

245 00:25:45.430 00:25:50.020 Uttam Kumaran: Nobody on this team is waking up and is like, is this thing working fully?

246 00:25:50.230 00:25:51.390 Samuel Roberts: So…

247 00:25:52.270 00:25:54.529 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, it’s also, like.

248 00:25:54.770 00:25:57.600 Uttam Kumaran: It’s sort of been, like, 2 months of just, like, issues, so…

249 00:26:00.520 00:26:03.630 Uttam Kumaran: What I’m thinking is, it’s like, yeah, yeah, go ahead, got it.

250 00:26:03.630 00:26:07.109 Samuel Roberts: I was gonna ask you about Pranav, is that the… is that the… Person to bring in.

251 00:26:07.110 00:26:08.180 Uttam Kumaran: The.

252 00:26:08.180 00:26:08.560 Samuel Roberts: Own that?

253 00:26:08.560 00:26:15.150 Uttam Kumaran: I may, I mean… So, which… so you’re on… right now, you’re on Lilo, and which ones?

254 00:26:15.860 00:26:22.210 Samuel Roberts: It would be Lilo, it would be this, it would be… Internal.

255 00:26:23.180 00:26:23.810 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

256 00:26:25.680 00:26:28.479 Samuel Roberts: Those are the, like, the main chunks of time, so…

257 00:26:28.850 00:26:29.760 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

258 00:26:30.780 00:26:37.560 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, maybe, Robert, I’ll just switch to your stuff. How do you wanna… how do you wanna leverage, like.

259 00:26:37.840 00:26:41.469 Uttam Kumaran: Sezen, Greg, And Amber.

260 00:26:41.690 00:26:43.700 Uttam Kumaran: You know, on strategy stuff.

261 00:26:43.700 00:26:49.679 Robert Tseng: Yeah, well, so Greg, I… I didn’t know he was doing default already as well.

262 00:26:49.780 00:26:58.339 Uttam Kumaran: Well, he’s not… he hasn’t been… he hasn’t been… he hasn’t… he’s not doing anything there. I guess that’s what… that was what… after his remed test, if it works out, I would like to push him there.

263 00:26:58.840 00:27:15.870 Robert Tseng: Okay, yeah, I mean, I basically told them, look, two weeks on README, and basically, by December 19th, you tell me, like, whether you see… whether we can figure out a path forward. I’m gonna… I’m gonna be very, kind of, like, straightforward with them, with README at this Thursday. I’m intro and Greg, and I’ll be like, look.

264 00:27:15.870 00:27:19.370 Robert Tseng: We have to see if this is gonna work out, and if not, then…

265 00:27:19.370 00:27:25.189 Robert Tseng: We’ll shut down README, and then he can… he can move to default. But anyway, so that’s… that’s, that’s that.

266 00:27:26.230 00:27:26.830 Uttam Kumaran: Fantastic.

267 00:27:27.030 00:27:34.760 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so I think that we can hold off on that. So, I don’t know, do you think default he can hold off on? We can hold off on having him there until…

268 00:27:34.760 00:27:43.899 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, I just don’t… I just don’t want to throw people that aren’t gonna be… that we don’t… we’re not, like, 100% sure if they’re gonna be your clients, so…

269 00:27:44.350 00:27:52.799 Robert Tseng: Okay. Yeah, we’ll see, I mean, I want to see his ability to pitch, read me, and see if he can turn around. Yeah. And then,

270 00:27:53.020 00:28:09.169 Robert Tseng: what was it? So, Sezim… yeah, I mean, I still have a good read on, like… I’m trying to… I was trying to have Henry, like, kind of manage her a bit on… on Eden. I mean, I feel like she spent a good chunk of her time there, whatever kind of limited time she’s working with us.

271 00:28:09.250 00:28:19.389 Robert Tseng: For the insomnia, I thought her output was fine. She… I think, I… but it’s just, like, whether or not insomnia’s gonna continue, and will she… will she have that scope? But I… I mean, I think…

272 00:28:19.960 00:28:23.849 Robert Tseng: that I think she did fine there. I just want to know, like, well.

273 00:28:24.320 00:28:28.920 Robert Tseng: how did she do meeting with the CFO and Eden, and, like, does she actually have, like, a good…

274 00:28:29.040 00:28:30.499 Uttam Kumaran: It’s like, can she actually…

275 00:28:30.590 00:28:37.929 Robert Tseng: like, can the team actually give her enough roadmap there? So, I don’t really think Henry’s really been…

276 00:28:37.930 00:28:52.330 Robert Tseng: building her roadmap, so I don’t… yeah, I don’t know, I just… I wanted an answer, by… by today, but I don’t… I don’t have one, so I don’t know whether or not the time is to wrap her up now. Like, I wonder if we should just extend her another week, and then… I mean, they make the call.

277 00:28:53.830 00:28:54.410 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

278 00:28:58.430 00:29:03.820 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I… I think it’s up to you. I mean, but we do need a… we do need, like, another analyst.

279 00:29:04.070 00:29:11.999 Robert Tseng: Yeah, we’re… you’re asking, like, where we can plug her in? I mean, she’s good at Excel. I think that’s what… that’s what I can… that’s what I can tell. So…

280 00:29:12.120 00:29:14.999 Robert Tseng: Anything ops or finance related, she can do.

281 00:29:17.030 00:29:17.630 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

282 00:29:19.150 00:29:22.130 Uttam Kumaran: But, like, do you think she’s gonna make it long-term?

283 00:29:28.230 00:29:32.210 Uttam Kumaran: Because then it’s not… I’m not gonna… it’s not worth until you say yes.

284 00:29:32.810 00:29:34.280 Robert Tseng: Okay, yeah, I don’t, I don’t know.

285 00:29:34.560 00:29:35.140 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

286 00:29:35.500 00:29:36.070 Robert Tseng: Yeah.

287 00:29:40.850 00:29:41.720 Uttam Kumaran: Excellent.

288 00:29:43.950 00:29:46.660 Robert Tseng: I’m gonna follow up with Henry on…

289 00:29:48.600 00:29:52.860 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, cause then it’s… then it’s whatever. I don’t feel bad.

290 00:29:53.000 00:29:55.780 Uttam Kumaran: And I don’t know. Okay.

291 00:29:56.210 00:29:58.810 Uttam Kumaran: And then, how about, so…

292 00:30:04.170 00:30:15.180 Uttam Kumaran: I need… I do need some help on ABC Discovery and Honeystomp, right? I feel like we’re… like, Amber’s basically spent all her time on Insomnia and Honey Stinger, you know, so…

293 00:30:15.180 00:30:31.359 Robert Tseng: Insomnia is, like, slowing down, like, I’m not really… we’re not adding new things at this point. We’ll see how tomorrow’s call goes, basically, have an opportunity to extend with them. Honey… yeah, but Amber… Amber is the main person on Honey Singer.

294 00:30:33.360 00:30:38.530 Uttam Kumaran: But my… my point would be rotate Amber’s time into Eden.

295 00:30:39.700 00:30:42.760 Uttam Kumaran: and ABC, which are… which are both way more money.

296 00:30:48.100 00:30:54.960 Uttam Kumaran: Like, dude, the ABC deal in its entirety, and it’s all, like, analysis, is bigger than both of those combined.

297 00:30:56.640 00:31:03.529 Uttam Kumaran: So, I guess, like, and I’m not saying that to say I miss Alex, I’m just saying, like, that’s prob… maybe that’s what we should do, like…

298 00:31:03.880 00:31:04.699 Uttam Kumaran: I would…

299 00:31:05.160 00:31:11.159 Uttam Kumaran: we have to rotate up. We don’t have another analyst, so I don’t know where to put Amber’s time except there.

300 00:31:11.810 00:31:12.510 Uttam Kumaran: But…

301 00:31:12.810 00:31:18.860 Uttam Kumaran: we’re kind of in a jam, then. If… if she can’t move off of those, then we have to…

302 00:31:20.590 00:31:24.780 Uttam Kumaran: what to find. So, I mean, maybe this is, like… yeah. This is tough.

303 00:31:25.300 00:31:26.350 Uttam Kumaran: It’s… yeah.

304 00:31:29.270 00:31:31.009 Robert Tseng: I think Amber should do ABC.

305 00:31:33.950 00:31:35.880 Robert Tseng: Okay. I think she has capacity for that.

306 00:31:36.920 00:31:44.199 Amber Lin: I agree, and ABC would be a much faster ramp-up than Eden. I have no clue what the Eden data is like, so…

307 00:31:44.200 00:31:46.229 Robert Tseng: Yeah, it was either gonna be that or Element.

308 00:31:46.230 00:31:46.950 Uttam Kumaran: And then I can ask.

309 00:31:46.950 00:31:51.860 Robert Tseng: element is gonna be her thing, so I guess ABC is… I think ABC makes sense.

310 00:31:54.490 00:31:56.880 Uttam Kumaran: And then what about, like, yeah, then, I mean, maybe…

311 00:31:57.210 00:31:59.460 Uttam Kumaran: We could try Jasmine or something.

312 00:32:01.690 00:32:02.520 Robert Tseng: Yeah.

313 00:32:02.840 00:32:06.920 Robert Tseng: Did Jasmine say she could trial this month?

314 00:32:09.160 00:32:10.309 Uttam Kumaran: I think so, yeah.

315 00:32:10.310 00:32:11.000 Robert Tseng: Okay.

316 00:32:17.390 00:32:22.649 Robert Tseng: I don’t need her on Eden right now. I think I’m still trying to make Eden work with the current people.

317 00:32:23.710 00:32:24.290 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

318 00:32:25.070 00:32:25.670 Robert Tseng: Yeah.

319 00:32:26.820 00:32:28.510 Uttam Kumaran: Element, I can buy some time.

320 00:32:32.460 00:32:34.429 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, insomnia’s pretty much just, like.

321 00:32:34.430 00:32:35.319 Uttam Kumaran: They probably don’t need anything.

322 00:32:35.740 00:32:36.530 Uttam Kumaran: Until next time.

323 00:32:36.530 00:32:40.860 Robert Tseng: a new… unless we have a new way forward, and then,

324 00:32:41.890 00:32:51.520 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, Honey Stinger just needs some more time, like, I just, you know, we’re still doing… we’re basically doing discovery work, so, like, I think we’ll keep kind of finding new roadmap, but, like, I…

325 00:32:51.890 00:33:00.709 Robert Tseng: Like, I don’t… I don’t think anybody else has, like, the… the flexibility that Amber has to be able to go and, like, tackle a bunch of different things, so… on our team currently.

326 00:33:07.530 00:33:13.440 Uttam Kumaran: Down to insomnia, then whatever you decide to do with that, if that moves forward.

327 00:33:14.110 00:33:14.900 Uttam Kumaran: And then…

328 00:33:14.900 00:33:16.529 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, by tomorrow, I should have a…

329 00:33:16.530 00:33:19.630 Uttam Kumaran: Jasmine says, and see if we can’t bring her in on something.

330 00:33:21.900 00:33:27.610 Robert Tseng: I think there’s just, like, lag on the… on Zoom, and we’re both, like, kind of talking over each other.

331 00:33:27.950 00:33:34.889 Robert Tseng: I guess, yeah, let’s hold off on Jasmine this week. I think I can’t… I don’t really have…

332 00:33:35.120 00:33:43.110 Robert Tseng: I’m, like, onboarding Luke and Jed this week, so, like, I would prefer to think about her next week or something.

333 00:33:43.880 00:33:48.559 Robert Tseng: Yeah, and any, any client that needs, like, the, that needs the,

334 00:33:48.730 00:34:06.550 Robert Tseng: needs analyst work. I mean, Insomnia is not a high priority anymore at this point, unless I kind of give new scope. Honey Stinger, I would prefer to have Amber there, because I do feel like we have good momentum, and, like, I don’t really want to change that right now. But yeah, she’s pretty much done with Insomnia after today, for now.

335 00:34:15.560 00:34:16.889 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay.

336 00:34:17.120 00:34:20.050 Robert Tseng: Okay, yeah, so Amber moves to ABC, and then.

337 00:34:20.050 00:34:20.500 Uttam Kumaran: Makes sense.

338 00:34:20.500 00:34:25.900 Robert Tseng: I guess, like, we, we, we still are… who… What… what else?

339 00:34:26.010 00:34:31.950 Robert Tseng: What other… what other client needs an analyst? I mean, the says and answer, we’ll get this week.

340 00:34:32.670 00:34:39.879 Robert Tseng: But assuming Season can ramp up, then, like, I think she could probably be put on another one or two clients.

341 00:34:42.750 00:34:47.949 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I would basically rotate SESM into anything that Amber can hand off, and Amber can come onto…

342 00:34:48.190 00:34:50.190 Uttam Kumaran: the next latest element.

343 00:34:50.199 00:34:51.199 Robert Tseng: Okay. Like…

344 00:34:51.580 00:34:55.849 Uttam Kumaran: I think we need someone… I think we need, like, an actual e-commerce person.

345 00:34:56.060 00:34:59.310 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I’m, I’m… Yeah.

346 00:35:00.030 00:35:00.820 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

347 00:35:01.160 00:35:04.369 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, they’re just gonna… they’re just… it’s just gonna be tense, so…

348 00:35:04.930 00:35:05.700 Robert Tseng: Yeah.

349 00:35:07.610 00:35:12.879 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, alright, I’ll let you jump to the go-to-market then, that’s probably all I needed.

350 00:35:13.510 00:35:15.160 Robert Tseng: Alright, see you guys.

351 00:35:16.630 00:35:17.320 Uttam Kumaran: Thanks.

352 00:35:18.000 00:35:19.430 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

353 00:35:19.680 00:35:23.170 Uttam Kumaran: So we have ABC, we have this ABC,

354 00:35:23.540 00:35:27.839 Uttam Kumaran: This one, like, I don’t know how to turn off…

355 00:35:28.200 00:35:32.769 Uttam Kumaran: And I don’t want to look at anything that’s brain forage.

356 00:35:38.760 00:35:40.380 Uttam Kumaran: Not internal.

357 00:35:42.580 00:35:43.260 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

358 00:35:44.200 00:35:52.979 Uttam Kumaran: So, for CTA, it’s me and Ashwini. I think… There’s a potential that Like, we’re gonna need somebody…

359 00:35:53.390 00:35:56.360 Uttam Kumaran: like, ooze, more full stack.

360 00:35:57.600 00:35:58.720 Uttam Kumaran: on this.

361 00:35:58.960 00:36:02.549 Uttam Kumaran: I’m not exactly sure. We’re kind of deciding on the scope.

362 00:36:02.780 00:36:07.570 Uttam Kumaran: But… Yeah, I think, Sam, this is, like, what me and you will talk about.

363 00:36:08.100 00:36:10.120 Uttam Kumaran: If we can do anything for the aux stuff.

364 00:36:10.300 00:36:10.910 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.

365 00:36:13.400 00:36:19.600 Uttam Kumaran: So, let’s see. I’ll just… Sorry.

366 00:36:23.020 00:36:24.129 Samuel Roberts: There’s a lag.

367 00:36:31.760 00:36:33.129 Uttam Kumaran: Wishing against the flag.

368 00:36:35.010 00:36:36.830 Uttam Kumaran: there, and then I’m on.

369 00:36:47.830 00:36:48.640 Uttam Kumaran: Here’s my luck.

370 00:36:50.790 00:36:52.320 Uttam Kumaran: kind of occasionally.

371 00:36:58.830 00:36:59.750 Uttam Kumaran: K…

372 00:37:03.540 00:37:08.600 Uttam Kumaran: So yeah, for default, there is room for…

373 00:37:09.500 00:37:15.409 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t think, Amber, there’s any new scope for you right now for default, so I think there’s really just room for, like.

374 00:37:15.410 00:37:16.060 Amber Lin: Okay.

375 00:37:16.390 00:37:17.190 Uttam Kumaran: Bragg.

376 00:37:17.330 00:37:22.249 Uttam Kumaran: And then, ideally, Bethelade, I can start to pass off Mustafa’s scope.

377 00:37:23.520 00:37:25.930 Uttam Kumaran: Which he’s been doing some of the modeling to you.

378 00:37:28.190 00:37:33.160 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, that’s good. I’m supposed to meet him in, like, an hour’s time, so we can discuss some of the default work.

379 00:37:34.070 00:37:34.630 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

380 00:37:41.520 00:37:42.220 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

381 00:37:42.430 00:37:49.139 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I feel like there’s probably gonna end up being, like, 10 hours of work there, so I’m just gonna put it there so it’s mapped.

382 00:37:50.220 00:37:53.519 Uttam Kumaran: I’m probably spending, like, $5 here.

383 00:38:09.230 00:38:11.380 Uttam Kumaran: And then you others, you know, spot for.

384 00:38:13.410 00:38:14.870 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

385 00:38:16.730 00:38:17.560 Uttam Kumaran: Right?

386 00:38:21.360 00:38:27.100 Uttam Kumaran: element… Yeah, it’s Robert, and then there’s gonna be me.

387 00:38:30.440 00:38:34.500 Uttam Kumaran: I’m probably spending here, like, an additional 10 hours a week.

388 00:38:36.140 00:38:38.079 Uttam Kumaran: Wow, that makes sense long.

389 00:38:38.210 00:38:39.710 Uttam Kumaran: Well, this long…

390 00:38:43.390 00:38:50.360 Uttam Kumaran: Robert is probably gonna spend, like, 5 hours a week And for this month.

391 00:38:51.760 00:38:54.360 Uttam Kumaran: And then we do have room for a data analyst.

392 00:38:59.320 00:39:00.839 Uttam Kumaran: At least 10 hours a week.

393 00:39:06.720 00:39:11.300 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, Eden Health, let’s talk about that. Maybe, Aleash?

394 00:39:17.510 00:39:25.490 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, like, for AED, I think we… I’m spending, like.

395 00:39:25.490 00:39:28.670 Uttam Kumaran: Well, like, Amber, are you doing anything on Eden anymore?

396 00:39:28.670 00:39:30.999 Amber Lin: No, you can take my allocation off.

397 00:39:32.180 00:39:34.549 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I’m just gonna be on this dive.

398 00:39:36.290 00:39:40.459 Uttam Kumaran: A wish, I don’t know, being empty in here twice, so I know a lot.

399 00:39:43.820 00:39:45.599 Uttam Kumaran: Mass with AE here.

400 00:39:45.930 00:39:47.950 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, Adam’s good now.

401 00:39:48.830 00:39:50.759 Uttam Kumaran: Just qualifying one of you.

402 00:39:56.520 00:39:57.260 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

403 00:40:00.410 00:40:01.440 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, I don’t wish.

404 00:40:03.290 00:40:08.980 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, for… I was saying for, like, our… between me and Demilade, we are… we are just spending five.

405 00:40:09.480 00:40:13.520 Awaish Kumar: Hours per week, actually, maybe more, and…

406 00:40:14.010 00:40:20.409 Awaish Kumar: like, 7, but it will be, like, 10 for Ashwani, and then I will be off of this.

407 00:40:23.590 00:40:26.770 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so what I would probably do is, I would probably just do 10 here.

408 00:40:27.880 00:40:32.229 Uttam Kumaran: Save it. Like, don’t… don’t worry about, like, week to week.

409 00:40:33.000 00:40:41.440 Uttam Kumaran: Like, this is supposed to be basically, like, all goals. So we’ll just… we’re gonna do the month at a time, and then, yeah, I feel like you at 5 is fine.

410 00:40:41.850 00:40:47.330 Uttam Kumaran: that Mulata, you feel like you’re still at, like, 10 hours a week, or you feel like you could get to this, actually?

411 00:40:48.630 00:40:59.200 Demilade Agboola: I’m still at… right now, I’m at 5, to be honest, but I could probably get to 10 if we have stuff to do. I think right now, it’s not really… Aiden isn’t really,

412 00:40:59.420 00:41:02.769 Demilade Agboola: AE heavy, it’s more, like, analysis heavy.

413 00:41:03.250 00:41:04.899 Demilade Agboola: So…

414 00:41:04.900 00:41:10.000 Uttam Kumaran: I guess, like, yeah, my point is, like, I actually don’t… I don’t need you to get to 5, I guess what more I’m, like…

415 00:41:10.220 00:41:15.910 Uttam Kumaran: If you do have to get to… if you do have more than 5, do you think that can be a pass to a Sweeney, basically?

416 00:41:16.530 00:41:20.530 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, gotcha. Yeah, I think Ashwini seems to be ramping up.

417 00:41:20.810 00:41:26.410 Demilade Agboola: We might need to, like, onboard him with some of the, like, DVT stuff.

418 00:41:26.560 00:41:34.169 Demilade Agboola: And maybe some of the logic that might not be properly documented, but I think, yeah, the rest can be passed on to him. It’s fairly stable enough.

419 00:41:35.380 00:41:36.220 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay.

420 00:41:37.790 00:41:41.379 Uttam Kumaran: And then for Henry, I’m pretty sure he’s spending, like.

421 00:41:41.890 00:41:48.160 Uttam Kumaran: most of his time on Eden, right? I think… how much time are you guys spending together, Amber, on Honey Stinger?

422 00:41:49.780 00:42:03.180 Amber Lin: I would say, Henry probably takes about 2-3… two to three hours each week to look at the data coming in. We pair for some of the initial data that comes in.

423 00:42:03.300 00:42:09.010 Amber Lin: And he has most of the access. And then I do the rest. So I would say he spends, like.

424 00:42:09.250 00:42:12.790 Amber Lin: 3… 3, at least, each week.

425 00:42:35.570 00:42:36.629 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna put here.

426 00:42:45.160 00:42:48.310 Awaish Kumar: Right? Right. This is for Aiden.

427 00:42:54.290 00:42:55.460 Uttam Kumaran: And I’m not spending.

428 00:43:01.020 00:43:02.849 Uttam Kumaran: I think we can all of them.

429 00:43:05.860 00:43:09.999 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, Sharon is mostly here, right? Do we know how much time he’s spending here?

430 00:43:14.620 00:43:15.760 Awaish Kumar: Hmm…

431 00:43:29.100 00:43:31.140 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I’m just gonna put,

432 00:43:31.310 00:43:33.640 Uttam Kumaran: I’m just gonna put 30 hours, then, we’ll see.

433 00:43:35.010 00:43:36.880 Uttam Kumaran: McDonaldo’s… okay.

434 00:43:39.950 00:43:44.440 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so does this seem… Like, roughly accurate.

435 00:43:55.960 00:43:59.669 Uttam Kumaran: And Casey… and then how’s Casey doing on analysis here? Like…

436 00:44:01.250 00:44:04.240 Uttam Kumaran: I would probably end up swapping him out for 7, then.

437 00:44:05.330 00:44:09.729 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, seems like he has been, kind of, Kind of pause.

438 00:44:11.030 00:44:15.369 Awaish Kumar: This, at least, like, at the end of… since the end of last week.

439 00:44:15.850 00:44:17.300 Awaish Kumar: I haven’t seen anything.

440 00:44:19.410 00:44:19.990 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

441 00:44:20.630 00:44:25.450 Uttam Kumaran: So yeah, I guess the decision we’ll make is, like, who’s gonna be assigned as the data analyst here?

442 00:44:30.230 00:44:30.920 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

443 00:44:32.820 00:44:36.370 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, Zoran is kind of spending 20, 20 hours.

444 00:44:36.770 00:44:39.440 Awaish Kumar: Like, according to Clockify.

445 00:44:41.910 00:44:43.860 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay, great, okay, so the install file.

446 00:44:45.340 00:44:46.180 Uttam Kumaran: Thanks.

447 00:44:59.380 00:45:02.409 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, and then for Hydra, so this is Don.

448 00:45:03.080 00:45:08.520 Uttam Kumaran: I guess I’m gonna adjust this to… Last month.

449 00:45:10.340 00:45:14.810 Uttam Kumaran: Well, actually, we might as well just work on this, since this is the shared currency, so…

450 00:45:15.250 00:45:18.920 Uttam Kumaran: This is Vidra… I’m just gonna say Deal 2.

451 00:45:23.260 00:45:31.090 Uttam Kumaran: So, for Hedra, deal 2… Yeah, I’m pretty sure it’s probably gonna end up at 10 hours a week.

452 00:45:31.580 00:45:39.220 Uttam Kumaran: And I’ve probably done Mulata, I think you can handle the whole thing, so… Yeah.

453 00:45:40.120 00:45:42.130 Demilade Agboola: Do we have a new start date?

454 00:45:43.610 00:45:45.089 Uttam Kumaran: I’m sending them the renewal.

455 00:45:45.130 00:45:46.070 Demilade Agboola: Okay.

456 00:45:46.910 00:45:47.480 Demilade Agboola: Okay.

457 00:45:54.570 00:45:55.260 Uttam Kumaran: Cool.

458 00:45:56.120 00:46:00.769 Uttam Kumaran: And I don’t think you did anything on, on, on eSinger, so I’m just gonna delete this.

459 00:46:04.750 00:46:07.899 Uttam Kumaran: Same thing on insomnia.

460 00:46:12.960 00:46:13.680 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

461 00:46:13.810 00:46:17.270 Uttam Kumaran: This is kind of what… oh, I guess urban stems… yeah, okay.

462 00:46:17.600 00:46:22.969 Uttam Kumaran: So this is kind of, like, what Jane is gonna look like at Milate. Default, Eden, Vidra.

463 00:46:23.240 00:46:29.519 Uttam Kumaran: Urban Sems. I mean, I guess my main point is, if… if Magic Spoons closes, then…

464 00:46:30.020 00:46:31.450 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll have to move you.

465 00:46:33.770 00:46:34.580 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

466 00:46:35.380 00:46:38.560 Uttam Kumaran: Don’t think about bringing it with me there, potentially.

467 00:46:41.000 00:46:46.800 Demilade Agboola: Okay, but, are we… I know I was on the call last week, but I…

468 00:46:46.800 00:46:53.879 Uttam Kumaran: Like, we’re sending contracts, signing contracts… Yeah, I sent them the renewal… yeah, I sent them the contract, they haven’t… they have to get back to me.

469 00:46:54.350 00:46:57.589 Demilade Agboola: Okay, alright, sounds good. Yeah,

470 00:46:58.330 00:47:02.230 Demilade Agboola: That, that looks fine, so it will be default, Eden, Hydra…

471 00:47:02.230 00:47:03.380 Uttam Kumaran: And…

472 00:47:05.080 00:47:06.229 Demilade Agboola: Magic Splins?

473 00:47:07.600 00:47:08.180 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

474 00:47:08.290 00:47:10.010 Uttam Kumaran: And then maybe Urban stands at…

475 00:47:10.380 00:47:14.800 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I guess I’m not… I’m not… I just don’t know yet how much time this is gonna actually be.

476 00:47:15.510 00:47:20.820 Uttam Kumaran: my… more of my concern is this may… you may end up with Magic Spoons on top of this.

477 00:47:23.180 00:47:24.090 Demilade Agboola: Mmm…

478 00:47:24.360 00:47:32.269 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, I see that. I think the key thing would be urban stems. It seems they just need someone who, like, looks through the…

479 00:47:33.150 00:47:42.679 Demilade Agboola: PRs, which, ideally, I could just allocate an hour, maybe at the beginning, at the end of the day, just go through it, and just get that done, and hop onto all that stuff.

480 00:47:48.520 00:47:49.260 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

481 00:47:49.950 00:47:56.010 Uttam Kumaran: Right, so… For Honey Stinger.

482 00:47:57.760 00:48:03.500 Uttam Kumaran: The deal is, yeah, so this goes to 1, 2, 24, 6.

483 00:48:04.170 00:48:11.159 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s see how Augustine… Are you post not long listening, though?

484 00:48:13.880 00:48:15.870 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, this one’s Amber.

485 00:48:19.770 00:48:22.929 Uttam Kumaran: Amber, how much are you spending on Honey Singer, like…

486 00:48:24.800 00:48:26.289 Uttam Kumaran: 20 hours? Yeah.

487 00:48:26.650 00:48:30.180 Amber Lin: Not 20 hours, I would say 10 to 15.

488 00:48:45.170 00:48:48.509 Uttam Kumaran: And then Henry’s spending time here, right, as well.

489 00:48:50.370 00:48:52.719 Amber Lin: Yeah, I would put the high end at 5.

490 00:48:55.480 00:48:56.430 Uttam Kumaran: Thank you.

491 00:49:06.680 00:49:10.240 Uttam Kumaran: this one… This one is dumb.

492 00:49:15.750 00:49:19.770 Uttam Kumaran: Insomniac with these deal, too. So, Amber, how much time are you spending here?

493 00:49:20.920 00:49:26.820 Amber Lin: Previously, I would also say it’s 15, but now that we have less, I would say

494 00:49:26.960 00:49:29.320 Amber Lin: Five, unless Robert finds new scope.

495 00:49:31.650 00:49:34.340 Uttam Kumaran: Mmm, okay, okay. So then I’m just gonna put…

496 00:49:35.750 00:49:43.779 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna put 10, because I just want to show that you’re kind of allocating too… too much, and that’ll… that’s what should sort of indicate by that size on conversation, so…

497 00:49:43.780 00:49:44.360 Amber Lin: Okay.

498 00:49:44.540 00:49:53.229 Uttam Kumaran: You’re here, Casey’s here… And Robert is, spending probably, like, 5 hours a week here.

499 00:49:55.080 00:49:59.430 Uttam Kumaran: That’s kind of it, right? That’s the whole team here. I guess Seism is now here doing some work, right?

500 00:50:01.410 00:50:04.059 Amber Lin: Yeah, Seism was helping. I would say…

501 00:50:05.080 00:50:08.179 Amber Lin: 5 to 10, depending on what comes next.

502 00:50:08.720 00:50:09.360 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

503 00:50:16.410 00:50:21.940 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, and then for… so let’s just finish… let’s finish through data. So for README…

504 00:50:22.390 00:50:25.850 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, honestly, for REME now, it should just mainly be

505 00:50:26.860 00:50:30.150 Uttam Kumaran: It should be Greg and Robert, so I’m not… I’m not really doing anything…

506 00:50:30.640 00:50:32.529 Uttam Kumaran: Robert’s spending, like, 5 hours a week.

507 00:50:33.530 00:50:41.010 Uttam Kumaran: Is Clarence on still? I guess, Clarence, I had a question, like, when you guys were doing allocation at UY, like, you guys do minimum hours?

508 00:50:41.440 00:50:45.700 Uttam Kumaran: like, I guess you guys are all, like, mostly, like, full-time staff or client, right?

509 00:50:46.040 00:50:52.790 Clarence Stone: Yeah, but we do allocate hours, for budgeting, so, what this exercise you’re doing is

510 00:50:52.930 00:50:54.910 Clarence Stone: It’s exactly what we do as well.

511 00:50:54.910 00:51:00.070 Uttam Kumaran: I guess I’m usually, like… I’m not a fan of doing anything less than 5 hours, it seems like.

512 00:51:00.500 00:51:00.950 Clarence Stone: Oh…

513 00:51:00.950 00:51:01.730 Uttam Kumaran: You’re sort of like.

514 00:51:01.730 00:51:04.239 Clarence Stone: We didn’t do less than 8.

515 00:51:05.200 00:51:06.600 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay, why?

516 00:51:06.600 00:51:09.619 Clarence Stone: It’s like a full workday, right? That was the take on it.

517 00:51:10.590 00:51:15.999 Uttam Kumaran: Interesting. I say 5 because it’s, like, an hour a day, like, if I check in on a client every day.

518 00:51:16.770 00:51:18.610 Uttam Kumaran: I’m like, okay, that’s just an hour.

519 00:51:19.520 00:51:21.590 Clarence Stone: Yeah, okay, yeah, that works too.

520 00:51:22.120 00:51:25.419 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, as long as… okay, then I’m just not gonna go below size.

521 00:51:30.920 00:51:35.080 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, what you’re gonna end up seeing is that Robert and I are just… There’s just too…

522 00:51:35.930 00:51:37.979 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great. That’s fine.

523 00:51:38.630 00:51:43.700 Uttam Kumaran: And yeah, ideally, Greg… Maybe Greg rips this one, so that’ll be great.

524 00:51:44.420 00:51:47.050 Uttam Kumaran: We don’t have a README Deal 3.

525 00:51:49.150 00:51:52.580 Samuel Roberts: I’ve got to run to another, is there anything else? Okay. Meanwhile…

526 00:51:52.580 00:51:58.080 Uttam Kumaran: Sam, I’m just gonna put you on… I’m gonna put you on Lilo for… bike.

527 00:51:58.600 00:51:59.989 Uttam Kumaran: 15 hours a week.

528 00:52:00.220 00:52:01.630 Uttam Kumaran: Sat around fine.

529 00:52:02.240 00:52:03.590 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

530 00:52:03.590 00:52:05.569 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I would… yeah, go with that for now.

531 00:52:06.470 00:52:07.399 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, alright.

532 00:52:07.400 00:52:08.549 Samuel Roberts: More soon, so…

533 00:52:08.830 00:52:09.559 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay.

534 00:52:09.910 00:52:10.950 Uttam Kumaran: Thank you. Bye.

535 00:52:15.370 00:52:20.490 Uttam Kumaran: So we don’t know about, this process.

536 00:52:20.700 00:52:21.590 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.

537 00:52:24.620 00:52:29.400 Uttam Kumaran: And Remo… We follow Urban Stones, we already did.

538 00:52:29.400 00:52:30.190 Rico Rejoso: beat me.

539 00:52:32.960 00:52:33.599 Uttam Kumaran: This one?

540 00:52:34.830 00:52:38.699 Rico Rejoso: Yeah, I think we’re on the deal tree right now. I’ll just.

541 00:52:38.700 00:52:39.560 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, we are.

542 00:52:39.830 00:52:40.410 Rico Rejoso: Yeah, I’ll.

543 00:52:40.410 00:52:43.379 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, yeah, you can just move these ones, yeah, okay, thank you.

544 00:52:46.860 00:52:47.710 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

545 00:53:10.120 00:53:11.550 Uttam Kumaran: Okay…

546 00:53:15.190 00:53:21.320 Uttam Kumaran: So, I think, Oasis is what I want to talk about Ashwini. So, Ashwini does not have 40 hours right now.

547 00:53:23.080 00:53:23.910 Awaish Kumar: Yup.

548 00:53:24.840 00:53:26.309 Uttam Kumaran: So he has…

549 00:53:27.280 00:53:27.820 Awaish Kumar: Okay.

550 00:53:27.820 00:53:32.420 Uttam Kumaran: 40 hours… Yeah, starting on the 22nd, I believe.

551 00:53:38.240 00:53:40.140 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, I think this is not true.

552 00:53:52.810 00:53:55.859 Uttam Kumaran: So… Rico, do you know when he started?

553 00:53:56.330 00:53:57.290 Uttam Kumaran: A screening?

554 00:53:57.720 00:53:59.279 Rico Rejoso: November 19.

555 00:54:04.870 00:54:06.799 Uttam Kumaran: And here are the folks.

556 00:54:11.420 00:54:12.500 Uttam Kumaran: That’s weird.

557 00:54:17.020 00:54:17.690 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s stop.

558 00:54:27.870 00:54:35.569 Uttam Kumaran: So yeah, this is how you do the, you know, fate 40 and 94. Okay, so if you get more capacity starting on the 19,

559 00:54:35.950 00:54:37.340 Uttam Kumaran: So…

560 00:54:40.090 00:54:41.599 Awaish Kumar: Finish one, yeah.

561 00:54:42.230 00:54:46.599 Awaish Kumar: he might be spending CTA, generally didn’t have…

562 00:54:47.010 00:54:51.329 Awaish Kumar: I was thinking of getting 10 on, Magic Spoons.

563 00:54:52.580 00:54:53.520 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great.

564 00:54:54.650 00:55:01.140 Uttam Kumaran: So, what I’m gonna do here is I’m also gonna include

565 00:55:03.130 00:55:11.200 Uttam Kumaran: basically gonna include all of these, but then I’m also gonna put… the… Project.

566 00:55:11.970 00:55:17.120 Uttam Kumaran: End date is in the future.

567 00:55:25.510 00:55:27.579 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, here we go. Great.

568 00:55:28.220 00:55:31.000 Uttam Kumaran: So, for this team, I’m gonna remove…

569 00:55:32.160 00:55:32.760 Awaish Kumar: Yeah.

570 00:55:32.910 00:55:38.270 Uttam Kumaran: We don’t… yeah, so I’m gonna put this as Analytics Engineer.

571 00:55:38.380 00:55:40.169 Uttam Kumaran: Actually, I’m gonna put data engineer.

572 00:55:41.270 00:55:42.470 Uttam Kumaran: And I’m gonna pump.

573 00:55:42.750 00:55:43.830 Uttam Kumaran: That’s for me.

574 00:55:46.970 00:55:53.370 Uttam Kumaran: And this one, I’m gonna change to… Analytics engineer…

575 00:55:53.560 00:55:55.699 Uttam Kumaran: And I’m gonna click on auto.

576 00:55:59.490 00:56:05.869 Uttam Kumaran: Perfect. And, yeah, I don’t know when this is gonna start, so for now, I’m gonna just put, like.

577 00:56:08.480 00:56:10.750 Uttam Kumaran: Just gonna put the 22nd for now.

578 00:56:33.640 00:56:39.740 Uttam Kumaran: Rico, did the status of that just change?

579 00:56:40.920 00:56:42.270 Uttam Kumaran: Management?

580 00:56:48.300 00:56:51.040 Rico Rejoso: It’s a… Yeah, it should still be tentative.

581 00:56:57.400 00:56:59.230 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yeah, I mean, that.

582 00:57:04.490 00:57:07.109 Uttam Kumaran: language maker. I can see.

583 00:57:25.940 00:57:31.330 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t see the… I don’t see Magic Spoon.

584 00:57:37.520 00:57:39.730 Uttam Kumaran: I guess I’ll just rename this thing.

585 00:57:40.180 00:57:44.100 Rico Rejoso: Yeah, it’s under In Progress Interview, or proposal interview.

586 00:57:46.030 00:57:47.540 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay.

587 00:57:49.950 00:57:51.529 Uttam Kumaran: For… owl.

588 00:57:55.580 00:57:58.610 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, but it should show up, right, if I put that one here.

589 00:57:59.210 00:57:59.980 Uttam Kumaran: Alright.

590 00:58:00.220 00:58:06.420 Uttam Kumaran: This is fine. So, Ashwinish, he’ll be at… 62 and a half.

591 00:58:08.880 00:58:10.300 Uttam Kumaran: So, yeah.

592 00:58:10.680 00:58:13.910 Awaish Kumar: Do we need only 5 hours on Magic Spawn?

593 00:58:15.360 00:58:18.099 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, no, she pitched, it should be more, just sure.

594 00:58:20.400 00:58:22.110 Awaish Kumar: Should we tense.

595 00:58:25.370 00:58:30.740 Awaish Kumar: With 20, it’s going to be… Higher than how many persons.

596 00:58:36.020 00:58:36.850 Uttam Kumaran: I mean…

597 00:58:43.420 00:58:45.369 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, this is probably more accurate.

598 00:58:46.400 00:58:47.370 Uttam Kumaran: For now.

599 00:58:56.010 00:59:00.059 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, and then Awish, how about you? So you’re on Elements, you’re on Eden.

600 00:59:01.870 00:59:03.090 Awaish Kumar: Yes.

601 00:59:03.340 00:59:06.410 Awaish Kumar: So, I would think… Yep.

602 00:59:07.170 00:59:11.959 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, because we are… we have removed HS back to Mustafa.

603 00:59:12.060 00:59:13.610 Uttam Kumaran: So… Okay.

604 00:59:14.450 00:59:15.900 Uttam Kumaran: Then I…

605 00:59:16.600 00:59:21.230 Awaish Kumar: I was thinking of adding, maybe… CTA or something.

606 00:59:24.060 00:59:25.170 Uttam Kumaran: Mmm.

607 00:59:25.360 00:59:31.150 Uttam Kumaran: Well, I guess it depends on… on your timing. I think, Clarence, this is where we have to chat about, like.

608 00:59:31.820 00:59:35.040 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, how much… how much additional time is available.

609 00:59:36.220 00:59:36.540 Clarence Stone: Yup.

610 00:59:36.540 00:59:40.039 Uttam Kumaran: For, like, allocations and things like that. Okay, okay.

611 00:59:51.410 00:59:52.450 Uttam Kumaran: Dang.

612 00:59:55.240 01:00:03.210 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I still have a little bit more work to do on both sides, but let me… let me try to finish this up, and I can send a version of this tonight.

613 01:00:03.790 01:00:11.700 Uttam Kumaran: Basically, I think we’re just gonna have to figure out mark says it is.

614 01:00:12.400 01:00:17.359 Uttam Kumaran: Potential assignments, and… I still have to do SAM and surf.

615 01:00:17.560 01:00:26.249 Uttam Kumaran: here as well, so I’ll do that, and I can get back to everybody. But I think for folks on this call, it should be kind of pretty clear. Does anyone have any questions?

616 01:00:28.300 01:00:28.960 Awaish Kumar: Nope.

617 01:00:32.000 01:00:32.750 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great.

618 01:00:33.490 01:00:36.200 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. All right. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it.

619 01:00:37.370 01:00:37.730 Amber Lin: Thank you.

620 01:00:38.250 01:00:39.410 Uttam Kumaran: Thank you.

621 01:00:39.750 01:00:40.760 Awaish Kumar: Goodbye.