Meeting Title: AI-Default-ABC Standup Date: 2025-11-07 Meeting participants: Casie Aviles, Rico Rejoso, Mustafa Raja, Uttam, Gabriel Lam, Samuel Roberts, Awaish Kumar, Henry Zhao, Robert Tseng, Zoran Selinger, Demilade Agboola, Amber Lin, Uttam Kumaran


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1 00:00:53.880 00:00:54.650 Mustafa Raja: Hey.

2 00:00:58.040 00:00:58.740 Casie Aviles: Ay.

3 00:00:58.930 00:00:59.920 Rico Rejoso: Morning, guys.

4 00:01:01.030 00:01:02.160 Mustafa Raja: Normal.

5 00:03:27.270 00:03:28.080 Uttam: Hey, guys.

6 00:03:31.940 00:03:33.219 Casie Aviles: How’s everything?

7 00:03:35.140 00:03:35.750 Mustafa Raja: Good.

8 00:03:39.670 00:03:41.769 Uttam: No Gabe or Sam today?

9 00:03:43.090 00:03:49.069 Mustafa Raja: Sam was… Apunia… I guess we can ping in AI channel.

10 00:03:50.070 00:03:50.710 Uttam: Yeah.

11 00:04:23.130 00:04:26.850 Uttam: I guess you guys wanna just walk me… Changes from last week?

12 00:04:29.030 00:04:29.900 Samuel Roberts: Hey guys, sorry.

13 00:04:29.900 00:04:30.780 Uttam: I’m sorry, from yesterday.

14 00:04:32.070 00:04:33.540 Samuel Roberts: Hey.

15 00:04:36.730 00:04:37.700 Samuel Roberts: What’d I miss?

16 00:04:39.400 00:04:40.860 Uttam: We’re just getting started.

17 00:04:41.200 00:04:42.739 Samuel Roberts: Okay, cool. Sorry about that.

18 00:04:44.060 00:04:49.440 Uttam: All good. Yeah, maybe we can just go through changes from… Yesterday?

19 00:04:49.820 00:04:51.519 Uttam: And kind of get a sense of.

20 00:04:52.240 00:04:55.229 Uttam: You know, where we’re gonna end up this week, and…

21 00:04:55.640 00:04:59.140 Uttam: I kind of have a couple of… of asks, but yeah.

22 00:05:00.690 00:05:02.000 Mustafa Raja: Yes.

23 00:05:02.180 00:05:09.490 Mustafa Raja: So, we shifted this, persistence thing from local to…

24 00:05:12.150 00:05:12.670 Samuel Roberts: -Oh.

25 00:05:12.670 00:05:13.310 Uttam: Huh?

26 00:05:13.310 00:05:13.760 Casie Aviles: Oh.

27 00:05:15.080 00:05:16.150 Uttam: It is dropped.

28 00:05:16.790 00:05:17.550 Samuel Roberts: Okay.

29 00:05:18.480 00:05:24.810 Samuel Roberts: Oh, I can maybe… I don’t know if I have it open, but basically he… what… oh, there we go, okay.

30 00:05:26.550 00:05:27.510 Samuel Roberts: Welcome back.

31 00:05:28.110 00:05:29.600 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. Sounds.

32 00:05:30.650 00:05:48.440 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so, the major change would be that we, shifted the positions from, local to superbase, so, everyone would now have the same view. Also, we now have historical data, so this is from yesterday’s,

33 00:05:49.230 00:05:59.600 Mustafa Raja: So the notes now persist whatever we would save, for a particular stand-up, it’ll stay there. And then…

34 00:06:00.270 00:06:02.820 Mustafa Raja: And then, yeah, this is pretty… pretty much…

35 00:06:02.970 00:06:05.540 Mustafa Raja: I visit from… from my side.

36 00:06:06.670 00:06:11.000 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think we also got the, the Slack Links work.

37 00:06:11.000 00:06:15.209 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah, the internal… yeah, yeah, yeah. So, internal team…

38 00:06:16.090 00:06:18.930 Mustafa Raja: Slack messages are now coming in.

39 00:06:19.980 00:06:20.730 Uttam: Nice.

40 00:06:20.910 00:06:23.910 Samuel Roberts: And that link should link out to Slack, at least.

41 00:06:23.910 00:06:29.520 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, we did this… So…

42 00:06:29.810 00:06:35.990 Mustafa Raja: This is now a hyperlink. This links to the Slack message that this is referring to.

43 00:06:36.900 00:06:37.630 Uttam: Nice.

44 00:06:38.250 00:06:38.950 Mustafa Raja: Yes.

45 00:06:43.370 00:06:44.070 Uttam: Oh.

46 00:06:45.200 00:06:47.109 Mustafa Raja: Yes. Any…

47 00:06:47.110 00:06:48.010 Uttam: Yeah, go ahead.

48 00:06:48.260 00:06:58.650 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I guess, the next step from my side would be to, I saw… I saw your ask on, having a summary on previous stand-ups, so.

49 00:06:58.650 00:07:00.729 Uttam: Next step on my side would be to adding.

50 00:07:00.770 00:07:03.669 Mustafa Raja: Adding, that somewhere here.

51 00:07:04.310 00:07:05.490 Uttam: Okay.

52 00:07:05.490 00:07:06.170 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

53 00:07:07.890 00:07:08.790 Mustafa Raja: And that’s it.

54 00:07:13.320 00:07:19.260 Uttam: Anything from you guys, Sam, Gabe, on sort of, like, where we’re gonna end up today, or…

55 00:07:19.420 00:07:28.739 Uttam: Kind of remaining stuff for today, and then we can… maybe we can even do a little bit of a retro on how we felt this week was versus last week, and sort of talk about next week.

56 00:07:31.860 00:07:36.999 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think… I’m trying to think if there’s anything else that we… I mean, we…

57 00:07:37.440 00:07:56.319 Samuel Roberts: I feel like we got through most of the little things, little life improvements, the Slack link, the internal stuff, and then we added the persistence, which I think was the kind of… we weren’t sure if that was… we were going to get to this week or not. But… and I think the only thing missing was a few, so the few shot examples.

58 00:07:57.590 00:07:58.460 Uttam: Yes.

59 00:07:58.650 00:08:02.279 Samuel Roberts: And so, that should kind of wrap up, I think, the…

60 00:08:02.510 00:08:06.620 Samuel Roberts: like, kind of MVP version of this,

61 00:08:09.190 00:08:11.690 Samuel Roberts: I think that was all. Gabe, was there anything else?

62 00:08:12.430 00:08:25.970 Gabriel Lam: I think we covered pretty much everything. I think we did mention about having, like, a, you know, daily 7AM kind of refresh, just so when you open… when you open the platform, you don’t have to press the refresh data again.

63 00:08:26.410 00:08:28.280 Samuel Roberts: That’s part of the persistence, too.

64 00:08:28.280 00:08:29.939 Gabriel Lam: Yeah, I think aside from that.

65 00:08:30.130 00:08:34.319 Gabriel Lam: I’m planning to reach out to Rico and Amber later, just to see…

66 00:08:34.960 00:08:40.929 Gabriel Lam: how they’re gonna… planning to use it, and if we can do any refinements, but I think, more or less, we are at a pretty good spot.

67 00:08:42.220 00:08:45.190 Mustafa Raja: This container is also set up for 7AM.

68 00:08:46.160 00:08:46.750 Uttam: Okay.

69 00:08:49.250 00:08:49.610 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think.

70 00:08:49.610 00:08:53.869 Uttam: Yeah, I guess my other question was gonna be, like, how often the Slack messages.

71 00:08:57.840 00:09:00.419 Samuel Roberts: how often the Slack messages are updating?

72 00:09:01.210 00:09:01.900 Uttam: Yeah.

73 00:09:04.680 00:09:05.110 Mustafa Raja: to view.

74 00:09:05.110 00:09:05.590 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I don’t have.

75 00:09:05.590 00:09:15.190 Mustafa Raja: That’s the… that’s the job that pulls… pulls the messages from S3 to, Superbase, runs every 5 hours.

76 00:09:18.030 00:09:18.670 Uttam: Okay.

77 00:09:19.630 00:09:22.909 Uttam: Yeah, maybe Jen,

78 00:09:23.230 00:09:29.159 Uttam: Maybe, Casey, can you push your PR to just update that cron? Like, during business hours? It would be great if that…

79 00:09:29.620 00:09:31.590 Uttam: Can run more frequently.

80 00:09:31.990 00:09:36.100 Uttam: I don’t really care. I think we can remain and have it be daily.

81 00:09:36.230 00:09:42.839 Uttam: But, like, for example, we definitely want to make sure that the Slack messages are all… in before…

82 00:09:43.270 00:09:45.770 Uttam: the 7AM run, right? So…

83 00:09:45.990 00:09:49.689 Uttam: Take a look at how long that job runs, and if you can make sure that that runs

84 00:09:49.830 00:09:54.710 Uttam: So that… This process has those messages to use.

85 00:09:54.710 00:09:56.220 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, that’s a good call.

86 00:09:56.420 00:10:04.529 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, hopefully, I don’t know, yeah, depending on how long the process is, that’s right. Yeah, probably run, like, towards the end of the… or after the end of the day, before the 7am Eastern.

87 00:10:05.000 00:10:11.560 Samuel Roberts: Would probably be the… Most… Useful time, so sometime in the middle of the night there.

88 00:10:12.380 00:10:13.180 Casie Aviles: I see.

89 00:10:13.180 00:10:14.030 Uttam: Yeah. Yeah.

90 00:10:14.030 00:10:17.970 Casie Aviles: There are two pieces to that, because there’s also the polyatomic job.

91 00:10:18.640 00:10:23.910 Casie Aviles: That gets, like, the raw slap export, and then there’s the Dagaster part, so…

92 00:10:24.770 00:10:31.359 Uttam: Yeah, so another thing you can do is you can actually trigger the Daxter on the polyatomic completion.

93 00:10:31.360 00:10:32.260 Casie Aviles: Oh.

94 00:10:32.370 00:10:33.170 Casie Aviles: Yay.

95 00:10:33.170 00:10:37.279 Uttam: That way, it’s like… I’m a little bit more smart.

96 00:10:37.430 00:10:43.990 Uttam: If you need help, I would ask… Oh?

97 00:10:44.350 00:10:49.980 Uttam: On the data side, but, yeah.

98 00:10:50.500 00:10:51.540 Uttam: He would be…

99 00:10:51.540 00:10:52.400 Samuel Roberts: Clarity…

100 00:10:52.630 00:10:58.400 Samuel Roberts: The polyatomic is what’s actually moving, or how… what’s the process here exactly? There’s two steps, I didn’t realize that.

101 00:10:59.470 00:11:05.340 Casie Aviles: Yeah, so basically the polyatomic part is what’s getting the raw stock export.

102 00:11:05.560 00:11:06.909 Casie Aviles: into S3.

103 00:11:07.400 00:11:15.419 Casie Aviles: Got it, okay. And we have, like, a transformation step that we have via Dagster, which is getting…

104 00:11:15.620 00:11:20.159 Casie Aviles: the raw Slack export from S3 into Superbase, pretty much.

105 00:11:20.160 00:11:22.880 Samuel Roberts: Okay. That’s what I… I forgot about the S3 step.

106 00:11:23.240 00:11:23.930 Samuel Roberts: Okay.

107 00:11:24.480 00:11:28.580 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think the Tom’s right, triggering the Dagster after the polyatomic is probably the best way, and then.

108 00:11:28.580 00:11:43.699 Uttam: Yeah, so there’s either a webhook, or there’s an API call you can make, but that would be the best way, I would suggest. Additionally, if that doesn’t work, option two is leave the polyatomic job

109 00:11:44.010 00:11:52.639 Uttam: as manual, and then you can trigger Polyatomic via the API and orchestrate everything through Dagster. So one of those two options should…

110 00:11:53.180 00:11:54.120 Uttam: Work for you here.

111 00:11:54.120 00:11:55.010 Samuel Roberts: Oh, yeah.

112 00:11:55.850 00:11:56.510 Casie Aviles: Okay.

113 00:11:58.710 00:11:59.590 Uttam: Marb.

114 00:11:59.800 00:12:07.569 Uttam: More of your preference, but… Okay, cool, and then, so, yeah, I think today, my big ask, Gabe, is that you get

115 00:12:09.120 00:12:14.210 Uttam: We can get back from as many people internally as possible that are involved in the delivery side.

116 00:12:14.320 00:12:16.510 Uttam: Like…

117 00:12:16.700 00:12:24.249 Uttam: they’re the ones that, ultimately, this is gonna go serve, but also, I’m hopeful that in the coming weeks, I’ll be able to actually hand off

118 00:12:25.090 00:12:32.179 Uttam: in some capacity to more people in the event that I’m out, or in the event that…

119 00:12:32.290 00:12:37.860 Uttam: Like, I just… I have a bunch of other shit I gotta do. So, I…

120 00:12:38.410 00:12:41.689 Uttam: This process to work for anyone that wants to run a stand-up.

121 00:12:41.810 00:12:50.949 Uttam: And ideally, it should elevate them to, you know, a much better spot. So, that’s what I think I would like to hear feedback today on.

122 00:12:51.080 00:13:00.710 Uttam: Your conversations with… Basically, any sort of small bug fixes we can do, let’s just wrap everything today.

123 00:13:00.980 00:13:03.210 Uttam: Yeah. That would be really, really helpful.

124 00:13:03.340 00:13:04.220 Uttam: Yeah.

125 00:13:04.220 00:13:04.780 Samuel Roberts: the one…

126 00:13:05.060 00:13:10.970 Samuel Roberts: One thing I was just noticing is it’s still saying 3 Zoom stand-ups. I don’t know if we fixed that when we moved to Turbo Puffer or not.

127 00:13:10.970 00:13:11.540 Mustafa Raja: Yes.

128 00:13:11.710 00:13:15.569 Mustafa Raja: The, the limit is there.

129 00:13:15.970 00:13:24.190 Mustafa Raja: But what we do is we are ranking the meetings, and then picking top 3. That’s all.

130 00:13:27.010 00:13:28.989 Samuel Roberts: Okay, so that is accurate, then. Okay.

131 00:13:28.990 00:13:35.130 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, that is accurate. So let me know if we want to remove that limit, or make it even broader.

132 00:13:35.850 00:13:43.269 Samuel Roberts: So, okay, maybe this is a little more nitty-gritty than we need to get into right now, but I thought with the preprocessing step, we’re able to, like, pull out the pieces we need, right?

133 00:13:43.490 00:13:48.430 Mustafa Raja: Yes. I haven’t taken a look at the pre-processing step, I guess Casey can…

134 00:13:49.430 00:13:58.950 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, maybe… maybe… Casey and I can get with that now that we have the turbo puffer step, and make sure that we’re pulling the right meeting stuff, because I saw that it still said 3, and I wasn’t sure if that was accurate.

135 00:13:59.190 00:14:02.079 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, that is accurate, it’s just that we have a hard limit on that.

136 00:14:02.490 00:14:03.490 Samuel Roberts: Got it, okay.

137 00:14:07.720 00:14:12.100 Samuel Roberts: But yeah, I think, yeah, any other feedback we can get from other trucks would be great today.

138 00:14:14.930 00:14:25.159 Uttam: And then, yeah, I guess maybe I would love to just go around the horn, and I can go last on just, like, how we… how we thought what was good, bad.

139 00:14:25.540 00:14:27.470 Uttam: About this week.

140 00:14:27.570 00:14:30.799 Uttam: Versus last week, I know Gabe, it’s sort of your first week, so I’d love to get…

141 00:14:30.970 00:14:33.030 Uttam: Maybe your perspective first?

142 00:14:33.370 00:14:37.839 Uttam: Before we… Before we go, and then I can go last.

143 00:14:38.200 00:14:43.439 Uttam: So maybe Gabe, if you want to go, and then Mustafa, Casey, Sam, and then I can go.

144 00:14:44.460 00:14:48.310 Gabriel Lam: Yeah, definitely happy to start. I think…

145 00:14:49.110 00:14:52.859 Gabriel Lam: Personally, I was really impressed by the velocity,

146 00:14:52.980 00:15:00.139 Gabriel Lam: I think, like, to be able to, at least from my perspective, achieve what we’ve been able to do in a week is really impressive.

147 00:15:00.460 00:15:08.989 Gabriel Lam: I think the… Maybe pain points have been sort of figuring out where things go, or if there’s…

148 00:15:10.680 00:15:12.739 Gabriel Lam: A best way to communicate or work?

149 00:15:12.970 00:15:14.780 Gabriel Lam: For different people, because…

150 00:15:16.130 00:15:29.330 Gabriel Lam: like, an example would be, you know, how many linear tickets do we need for this project exactly, and, you know, the sort of scope that is captured for each thing. So I think those are sort of more high-level, like.

151 00:15:29.900 00:15:36.880 Gabriel Lam: how we work kind of questions. But in terms of how quickly we get features out, whether those features are thought out, or…

152 00:15:37.200 00:15:40.390 Gabriel Lam: In terms of…

153 00:15:40.850 00:15:44.270 Gabriel Lam: how much scope we assign to different things, I think that’s been really, really good, so…

154 00:15:44.730 00:15:51.239 Gabriel Lam: I’m still sort of wrapping my head around all this stuff, but I am excited to see how quickly we can

155 00:15:51.420 00:15:55.999 Gabriel Lam: deliver something that works really, really well. And I think it’s only gonna get faster.

156 00:16:04.670 00:16:06.719 Samuel Roberts: Oop, I think Casey Mustafa.

157 00:16:07.140 00:16:08.980 Mustafa Raja: Yes,

158 00:16:09.110 00:16:20.719 Mustafa Raja: Regarding this week, I think the team has been more organized than ever, with this project, so, this is, what I…

159 00:16:21.130 00:16:23.609 Mustafa Raja: what I did like about,

160 00:16:23.980 00:16:26.280 Mustafa Raja: Doing this project in this way.

161 00:16:27.620 00:16:31.210 Mustafa Raja: Apart from that, yeah, it’s been… it’s been a pretty good week.

162 00:16:33.660 00:16:37.100 Casie Aviles: Yeah, pretty much the same sentiments, that I’ve shared.

163 00:16:38.180 00:16:46.229 Casie Aviles: Like, before… We didn’t really have any defined, stages to the whole process, like.

164 00:16:46.930 00:16:52.600 Casie Aviles: And there’s, like, a tendency for us to… Kind of drop the work.

165 00:16:53.240 00:16:59.979 Casie Aviles: And then it’s not gonna be, you know, we’re not gonna revisit it again, and then there’s just…

166 00:17:00.110 00:17:06.400 Casie Aviles: So it ends up not being used, and, you know, so persistent issues would be there.

167 00:17:06.810 00:17:11.140 Casie Aviles: So I think the process change was definitely… Helpful.

168 00:17:11.490 00:17:13.969 Casie Aviles: And yeah, it’s also nice to have…

169 00:17:14.250 00:17:20.020 Casie Aviles: Gabe now, to also help us with… Getting more…

170 00:17:20.230 00:17:23.440 Casie Aviles: Feedback from the stakeholders as well.

171 00:17:24.050 00:17:28.539 Casie Aviles: So… Yeah, I think that’s all from me for this week.

172 00:17:29.410 00:17:32.940 Uttam: Yeah, I’m wondering, Gay, maybe back to your first comment, like, could you…

173 00:17:33.080 00:17:39.599 Uttam: I would love for you to give some perspective to folks on how… on, like, the reason you feel

174 00:17:40.100 00:17:47.349 Uttam: like, it was impressive on how fast it got. Like, I don’t think this is… I don’t think…

175 00:17:47.930 00:17:55.580 Uttam: we… I mean, a lot of us, I mean, we’ve been working here, so of course, like, we have this perspective, but since you’re new, we’d love for you to talk about, like.

176 00:17:55.960 00:18:00.689 Uttam: All the reasons why you’ve seen that things don’t get out this fast, and sort of, like.

177 00:18:01.040 00:18:04.009 Uttam: Would love for you to reflect on that, especially since you just joined.

178 00:18:08.710 00:18:09.550 Gabriel Lam: Yeah.

179 00:18:09.550 00:18:12.310 Uttam: I… well, I come from a…

180 00:18:12.390 00:18:18.849 Gabriel Lam: pretty large corporate background, where I think there’s just a lot of red tape that goes into approvals, that goes into…

181 00:18:18.950 00:18:21.169 Gabriel Lam: Who gets access to what?

182 00:18:21.750 00:18:26.039 Gabriel Lam: And I think there’s a lot of… An example would be, like.

183 00:18:26.690 00:18:30.639 Gabriel Lam: features that took days usually would take at least a week.

184 00:18:31.730 00:18:36.520 Gabriel Lam: Just because there’s a lot more stringent checkpoints.

185 00:18:36.800 00:18:38.900 Gabriel Lam: For each certain thing, and then you have to get…

186 00:18:39.010 00:18:41.699 Gabriel Lam: Buy-in from different sets of people.

187 00:18:42.400 00:18:49.949 Gabriel Lam: So, in this sense, the… Almost get something out and see how people think about it approach.

188 00:18:51.000 00:18:59.300 Gabriel Lam: accelerates how quickly We can both deliver something and deliver something that is productive and useful.

189 00:19:00.170 00:19:08.400 Gabriel Lam: on the other hand, I think a benefit of what we have at the moment is…

190 00:19:09.080 00:19:15.979 Gabriel Lam: I don’t think there’s… at least from my perspective, there isn’t too much baggage on how we go about doing things, you know? I mean, we have…

191 00:19:16.280 00:19:21.160 Gabriel Lam: The softwares and the processes, but it’s not like they’re too fixed.

192 00:19:21.410 00:19:27.060 Gabriel Lam: And so, if we find a new… Tool, or a new option.

193 00:19:27.240 00:19:32.019 Gabriel Lam: I think being able to implement that pretty quickly, I think, is a huge plus.

194 00:19:32.710 00:19:40.979 Gabriel Lam: In ways that, I think, with a large organization, they just don’t have the same Speed of deployment.

195 00:19:41.560 00:19:42.789 Gabriel Lam: Does that make sense?

196 00:19:44.030 00:19:45.120 Uttam: Yeah, that makes sense.

197 00:19:45.320 00:19:46.200 Samuel Roberts: I think so, yeah.

198 00:19:46.200 00:19:46.820 Uttam: Thanks.

199 00:19:47.280 00:20:03.109 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, kind of… I’ll go phonic from there and piggyback on that. I think, in my experience, I have often worked in these kind of quick, like, less corporate, less red tape kind of environments, so I can appreciate, like, what we’re doing. But I will say there’s definitely…

200 00:20:03.170 00:20:12.099 Samuel Roberts: a balance of that. Like, the red tape exists for a reason, and maybe it’s too much sometimes, and I think figuring out, like, what the benefits of it are, and trying to pull those out.

201 00:20:12.220 00:20:14.340 Samuel Roberts: is good.

202 00:20:14.980 00:20:32.510 Samuel Roberts: I think this week we did a pretty good job with it. There were a couple times where, and this is, I think, in nature of maybe the consulting work and the fact that we have client work, too. I wasn’t sure when things were happening exactly, and that’s definitely a part of the, like, remote, somewhat asynchronous client work. All these elements,

203 00:20:32.570 00:20:35.949 Samuel Roberts: But I think we did a pretty good job getting at what we were…

204 00:20:36.110 00:20:39.119 Samuel Roberts: setting to. There were just a couple times where I wasn’t sure

205 00:20:39.270 00:20:47.839 Samuel Roberts: what was happening, and I didn’t want to step on some toes, because I knew there was important client work happening and things like that. But I think overall, we did a pretty good job.

206 00:20:48.410 00:20:49.529 Samuel Roberts: I think we…

207 00:20:50.160 00:21:03.929 Samuel Roberts: kind of used linear alright this week, but I feel like… I think the question also, because we were sort of talking about, like, how much do we want to ticket things out, or just, like, run with things and see what we can get, because even in a week sprint, I feel like sometimes that can add a lot of,

208 00:21:04.760 00:21:15.940 Samuel Roberts: extra overhead, when we’re just sort of, like, very rough tickets and things like that, rather than very well-defined things, but I think we did an okay job this week getting it pretty well organized.

209 00:21:17.160 00:21:19.560 Samuel Roberts: I feel pretty happy with what we got out.

210 00:21:19.910 00:21:20.610 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.

211 00:21:22.100 00:21:25.559 Uttam: Yeah, I think my feedback is probably similar

212 00:21:25.840 00:21:29.260 Uttam: To Sam, in that, one, I think…

213 00:21:29.740 00:21:39.129 Uttam: You know, I think starting from a completely open space, I think it’s up to you guys to understand what the benefit… which sort of red tape, or…

214 00:21:39.440 00:21:47.389 Uttam: like, I’ll use more, like, checkpoint events are important to do. And it’s easier to start with

215 00:21:47.630 00:22:02.079 Uttam: less and then layer it on, it’s often hard to start with a lot and then remove, because, yeah, that’s just kind of in my experience. So, one is, like, I would, you know, and this is something maybe, Gabe, I would probably push on you, is to identify

216 00:22:02.240 00:22:09.310 Uttam: what checkpoint events maybe could have allowed us to ship the right thing the first or second time, or…

217 00:22:09.420 00:22:17.389 Uttam: you know, not spun our wheels, or waited a day on things. I mean, 5 days is not a lot of time, but additionally.

218 00:22:18.080 00:22:25.460 Uttam: I would say I know what the four of y’all are capable, and it’s… it is an extreme amount of time.

219 00:22:25.640 00:22:38.270 Uttam: You know, and so my expectations, even though 5 days in another corporation is a lot… is not a lot of time at all, in our business, I’ve worked

220 00:22:38.420 00:22:42.330 Uttam: For y’all to reduce and maintain that there are no…

221 00:22:42.590 00:22:46.300 Uttam: sort of politics, and, you know, I’ve given you guys

222 00:22:46.600 00:22:55.289 Uttam: basically free access to… to make… to move anything possible to get these things out. And that is not something that’s, like, that’s all by design.

223 00:22:55.650 00:23:01.800 Uttam: Yeah. That is not, like, a… that is not, like, a happenstance. We just, like, happen to wake up and, like, things are, like.

224 00:23:01.940 00:23:04.820 Uttam: there’s no issues. We…

225 00:23:05.110 00:23:14.409 Uttam: it’s, like, built that way, and so my expectation is that that is actually what allows us to ship stuff in 5 days. I think, similar to Sam, I think

226 00:23:15.760 00:23:29.100 Uttam: you know, for me, these meetings in the morning were great, and I know there was some feedback in Slack, like, immediately after, but I would have really appreciated, like, a sense of where did we end up each day, or even in the middle of the day.

227 00:23:29.600 00:23:39.379 Uttam: And I think that’s just something, as Gabe, you get… kind of introduce the team, and also, all four of you guys should definitely know that you’re all extremely nice people.

228 00:23:39.530 00:23:42.580 Uttam: And so, I know all of you worry about,

229 00:23:42.690 00:23:52.040 Uttam: putting, you know, bothering folks and annoying folks. But at some point, that comes at the risk of the project, and so one is, like.

230 00:23:52.500 00:24:03.430 Uttam: as a company, one thing that I’m starting to do, and you’re gonna see a lot of this happen in collaboration with Lauren, is we’re just gonna build up a lot more trust among each other.

231 00:24:03.520 00:24:17.139 Uttam: It can definitely feel tough to ping someone if you don’t know them, you don’t know that they trust you, and they know that you’re not just being annoying. Additionally, though, you should totally understand that it’s just us, so nobody in this call is, like.

232 00:24:17.400 00:24:32.580 Uttam: particularly, like, you know, difficult to work with. These are probably the most flexible people in the company. And so one is, like, I kind of want to see that… you guys see the energy I have in Slack about just kind of cutting through, like.

233 00:24:32.740 00:24:37.399 Uttam: where is this? You know, I kind of want to see some of that get imparted onto y’all.

234 00:24:37.570 00:24:41.729 Uttam: To ask the question that everybody’s thinking out loud.

235 00:24:41.890 00:24:52.040 Uttam: And I think that’s something that I’m trying to do more. I do a lot of, but that is something that I’d like to see from each of you guys. If one of you, like, for Sam, if you’re even…

236 00:24:52.180 00:24:58.580 Uttam: not, super clear on where the project is. Imagine anybody who’s not on the team, right? Totally.

237 00:24:58.660 00:25:12.809 Uttam: And so, what I kind of would push for you guys next week is to lean on those instincts and ask the question. And don’t worry, the only consequence here is the fact that we don’t arrive on Friday with

238 00:25:12.950 00:25:17.849 Uttam: something that can shape, you know, the productivity of the company. That’s the only risk.

239 00:25:17.950 00:25:22.370 Uttam: And so, in that sense, I want to know that I…

240 00:25:22.530 00:25:26.529 Uttam: Everybody on this project has a super clear understanding of, like.

241 00:25:27.290 00:25:33.410 Uttam: what’s going on, where we’re heading, what pivots do we need to make. We have this daily meeting, but

242 00:25:33.430 00:25:50.039 Uttam: even this daily meeting, like, it could be done in other ways, and I sort of want to start to relinquish that control to y’all. And, you know, I think already I’ve been noticing that you guys are able to run this pretty smoothly, and so my expectation going to the next week or two

243 00:25:50.040 00:25:59.890 Uttam: will be that, like, I’m just… I’m just but, like, a… a stakeholder in… on the project, and actually, I’m gonna start to assign other folks that will

244 00:26:00.180 00:26:04.559 Uttam: Like I have been, you know, in terms of this feature that we shipped.

245 00:26:04.710 00:26:22.800 Uttam: And what you’ll realize is there are… there’s gonna be people that… in the company who… who could be affected, but they’re gonna… they’re not as skilled as me at explaining the features they need, maybe they don’t give feedback really well, so we need to have the systems and processes in place.

246 00:26:23.030 00:26:25.720 Uttam: to… Help that stakeholder.

247 00:26:25.910 00:26:30.690 Uttam: And so for my side, one is, like, yes, I also felt that

248 00:26:30.890 00:26:36.779 Uttam: You know, coming out of these meetings in the morning, I felt good on, like, progress, but I think…

249 00:26:36.950 00:26:38.659 Uttam: throughout the day.

250 00:26:38.980 00:26:52.129 Uttam: like, it would have been great to kind of see, like, okay, this feature shipped, it’s now live, go test it out, or here’s a loom to test it out, or hey, the day’s closing out, here’s what we got done. Would love to hear feedback. That way.

251 00:26:52.420 00:26:59.959 Uttam: at that point, there’s multiple opportunities for, like, a busy stakeholder like me to give feedback, whether that’s text, loom, or call.

252 00:27:00.090 00:27:00.850 Uttam: Right.

253 00:27:01.050 00:27:12.570 Uttam: it’s very similar to what we do with our clients, like, even if our clients don’t answer the phone, I will email them, I’ll Slack them, I’ll email them again, like, you just really push.

254 00:27:12.750 00:27:17.260 Uttam: Not getting feedback is, will kill the project.

255 00:27:17.590 00:27:21.300 Uttam: And so that’s probably one thing I would… I would recommend doing.

256 00:27:22.080 00:27:22.450 Gabriel Lam: Yep.

257 00:27:22.450 00:27:23.200 Uttam: And then…

258 00:27:23.470 00:27:27.410 Uttam: So maybe I’ll pause there if there’s any comments on that one, and then I have one other thing.

259 00:27:29.180 00:27:38.339 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I don’t know if you guys saw the articles that Income posted that was about, like, async and using looms and things, and I think that’s definitely something we can… because we work…

260 00:27:38.900 00:27:55.780 Samuel Roberts: consistent, like, or there’s similar hours, but there’s still a time when, like, if I’m offline by, you know, 5 or 6 Eastern, and, like, Mustafi, you’re pushing out the persistent stuff, like, I, you know, I see that by the morning, but I… it’s good if we can have more, maybe, check-ins or just, like, updates going about, like, what’s

261 00:27:56.150 00:27:58.349 Samuel Roberts: Been done, what’s gonna get done?

262 00:27:58.520 00:28:02.179 Samuel Roberts: Maybe at a couple more points throughout the day?

263 00:28:02.370 00:28:18.039 Samuel Roberts: Because, like, I think, Tom, you’re right, like, coming out of this meeting feels great, because we’re all kind of on the same page, and then I think as… as we kind of go our different ways and have different tasks to do that are not only this project, but also client work, obviously, keeping us

264 00:28:18.140 00:28:35.699 Samuel Roberts: all in the loop, especially about this stuff. You know, it doesn’t necessarily… like, I can see what’s going on in the other client, so I’m kind of aware that you guys are doing other things, but also just, like, knowing that, okay, well, I got this done, it’s pushed live, you know, I know, you know, Casey’s about to work on that at some point today, Mustafa’s got this at some point today, you know, like, that sort of…

265 00:28:35.700 00:28:39.370 Samuel Roberts: updates, I think we can be maybe a little bit better about

266 00:28:39.690 00:28:54.680 Samuel Roberts: all of us, so, I think that’s… that’s a big part of, like, remote work, async work, using Looms, yeah, all that, all that kind of stuff, I think, is going to be very helpful for us moving forward, and help keep that clarity throughout the day,

267 00:28:54.790 00:28:56.360 Samuel Roberts: You know, post this meeting.

268 00:28:57.110 00:29:01.959 Samuel Roberts: I had another thought, and I forgot what it was about that, that you were talking about, but that was my big one.

269 00:29:04.900 00:29:15.420 Uttam: Yeah, and then maybe, maybe one more point to, you know, Gabe’s message… is… on… on linear.

270 00:29:15.880 00:29:21.599 Uttam: It’s actually just, like, it’s up to you guys. Like, I…

271 00:29:21.860 00:29:27.550 Uttam: can help… I… this is where, like, I’m a very,

272 00:29:28.180 00:29:45.540 Uttam: practical person in that my object… my goal is to deliver on Friday. I want you guys to feel ownership of how you get there, right? Like, would… in a perfect world, yes, everything’s ticketed, everything has status, everything has points, yes.

273 00:29:46.200 00:29:52.060 Uttam: let’s say you get everything ticketed, everything pointed, everything described, you don’t hit Friday, then you still failed.

274 00:29:52.300 00:29:55.070 Uttam: And so… I think…

275 00:29:56.450 00:30:12.120 Uttam: what I hope to kind of share with you is that it’s up to y’all to think about the process that’s most effective for you and your stakeholders. I’ve given you the tools in linear and Notion and all these ways to… to achieve, but delivering is the…

276 00:30:12.340 00:30:15.729 Uttam: Primary, sort of, measurement, delivering something that works.

277 00:30:15.990 00:30:17.360 Uttam: And so

278 00:30:17.920 00:30:24.090 Uttam: I think, like, I would like to see a little, like, for you guys to kind of make those decisions and share outwardly

279 00:30:24.360 00:30:30.050 Uttam: And, again, this isn’t… you’ve seen how many times we’ve tried to do things a little bit of a different way, but…

280 00:30:30.310 00:30:35.000 Uttam: Given now, I think the team here has reached a pretty good critical mass.

281 00:30:35.140 00:30:39.069 Uttam: that I’m… I’m okay with however you guys want to do things, as long as…

282 00:30:40.000 00:30:42.440 Uttam: As long as it results in…

283 00:30:42.570 00:30:49.399 Uttam: confident planning and reaching Friday where we want it to be, you know? So… Hopefully that kind of helps.

284 00:30:54.040 00:31:00.879 Samuel Roberts: yeah, I think there’s a good balance we can find there, but it’s definitely worth… we need to be the ones that find it, you know? I think you’re absolutely right.

285 00:31:03.660 00:31:05.409 Samuel Roberts: Do you guys have any other thoughts about that?

286 00:31:06.580 00:31:08.830 Uttam: Yeah, anything Casey, Mustafa, Gabe?

287 00:31:12.920 00:31:15.849 Casie Aviles: I agree with a lot of the points that sound.

288 00:31:16.070 00:31:18.360 Casie Aviles: Raised, think…

289 00:31:19.000 00:31:28.370 Casie Aviles: Yeah, on my part, I think maybe more looms could have helped, though sometimes it’s just, yeah, it’s…

290 00:31:29.090 00:31:32.470 Casie Aviles: Feeling out, like, where is… where we’re at?

291 00:31:32.700 00:31:37.979 Casie Aviles: Just checking, like, the dogs and stuff, but yeah, we could definitely do a better job.

292 00:31:39.790 00:31:41.360 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I think that’s about it.

293 00:31:41.510 00:31:42.270 Casie Aviles: Bring me.

294 00:31:46.690 00:31:51.569 Samuel Roberts: I’ll also add real quick, just very, like, formally, and, like, stated out that, like.

295 00:31:51.770 00:32:09.209 Samuel Roberts: you know, when someone is asking for an update or looking for something, like, you know, take that with the, like, do what Tom said, take that with the best intentions, you know, we all trust each other, you know, it’s not necessarily, like, even if Utom’s like, where is this? It doesn’t necessarily mean, like, right now, sometimes, you know, if you’re working on other things, you know, you can be like, I got this, but that’s coming, you know.

296 00:32:09.570 00:32:14.469 Samuel Roberts: It’s more about just the information needs to flow, and not about the, like…

297 00:32:14.940 00:32:27.859 Samuel Roberts: any kind of, where is this kind of chastisement or anything? You know, it’s definitely, like, we should all be comfortable. And I think when we’re all together chatting, it’s much easier, but when it’s online, sometimes it can be harder, so definitely, like, make sure to…

298 00:32:28.020 00:32:43.710 Samuel Roberts: be in that mindset, because then I, you know, I’ll feel more comfortable just asking for updates, or just pinging something, or saying, like, where did this end up, time-wise, or whatever, if I can believe that everyone knows that I’m coming at it with the best intention. So, I just wanted to state that very formally, as well.

299 00:32:45.910 00:32:46.440 Gabriel Lam: Yeah, I think.

300 00:32:46.440 00:32:47.000 Uttam: Yeah, I agree.

301 00:32:47.000 00:32:51.599 Gabriel Lam: of that. I think likewise, I came in and I was like, hey, I don’t wanna…

302 00:32:51.840 00:32:57.550 Gabriel Lam: step on people’s toes, but… I’m gonna be a lot more comfortable asking a ton of questions, and…

303 00:32:57.980 00:33:03.769 Gabriel Lam: I think you guys are gonna be more technical than I am, so I will preface that I am gonna be asking a ton of questions that I…

304 00:33:04.020 00:33:08.610 Gabriel Lam: It is all coming from the best of intentions, and you guys can also feel free to…

305 00:33:08.830 00:33:20.599 Gabriel Lam: be comfortable asking questions at any time, so… I think that would build a culture of just, like, hey, we’re just here to try to get things done, and learn how best to get things out the door, and in the future.

306 00:33:21.340 00:33:23.450 Gabriel Lam: Like, whatever processes or whatever.

307 00:33:24.110 00:33:27.009 Gabriel Lam: comes out of it. Like, we can take ownership of that.

308 00:33:27.580 00:33:28.290 Samuel Roberts: Totally.

309 00:33:29.300 00:33:30.129 Samuel Roberts: Oh my god.

310 00:33:32.000 00:33:36.860 Uttam: Yeah, and I, yeah, I feel the same way. I think, like…

311 00:33:37.260 00:33:44.930 Uttam: we’re just gonna see, like, pace is not just on, like, delivery features, it’s, like, on gathering feedback, it’s… it’s… and yeah, you guys see, like, I…

312 00:33:45.160 00:33:49.789 Uttam: I can do my best to just share things as they come up in my head, but I don’t…

313 00:33:50.140 00:34:05.599 Uttam: I will preface if it’s, like, an extremely urgent thing, you know? You guys know that. So, I just have to share feedback or thoughts when it pops up, because I don’t have another choice, you know? I can’t write it down anywhere and save it,

314 00:34:06.590 00:34:11.320 Uttam: And so, okay, perfect. I guess, look, let’s talk a little bit, maybe, for a few minutes, just on, like, what we…

315 00:34:11.429 00:34:15.109 Uttam: think for next week. To give you a little bit of a…

316 00:34:15.300 00:34:21.249 Uttam: a sense, and now, I think, hopefully after this week and last week, my ultimate, like.

317 00:34:22.040 00:34:24.270 Uttam: You know, vision for these sprints, like…

318 00:34:24.420 00:34:30.810 Uttam: sort of makes a bit more sense. I know… I don’t know how much clarity… how it made sense in my sort of first…

319 00:34:31.010 00:34:32.790 Uttam: meeting with y’all, but I think…

320 00:34:32.949 00:34:44.799 Uttam: sort of where we’re heading is, like, you know, a series of these, like, assistants, you know? And, like, if I was to just give… and this is something that maybe,

321 00:34:44.989 00:34:48.460 Uttam: you know, Gabe, maybe over time, or not.

322 00:34:48.620 00:34:59.959 Uttam: next week, maybe me and you can even plan, sort of, like, the Thursday or Friday before the week starts, but, like, to give you a sense of, like, all the things that I wrote down, that…

323 00:35:00.260 00:35:07.660 Uttam: Could get moved or sort of augmented with the platform is, like, sprint reviews, client meetings.

324 00:35:07.870 00:35:12.990 Uttam: We do monthly project reviews, grooming,

325 00:35:13.980 00:35:20.629 Uttam: I also did something around writing case studies, assistant for sales meetings.

326 00:35:20.750 00:35:23.659 Uttam: Assistant for writing blog posts.

327 00:35:23.790 00:35:26.519 Uttam: You know, we also…

328 00:35:26.930 00:35:33.310 Uttam: I was also thinking, okay, maybe we should move out of office requests to the platform. We should…

329 00:35:33.500 00:35:36.689 Uttam: Be able to see things like my meetings, you know?

330 00:35:37.150 00:35:44.560 Uttam: There’s also, you know, different, just overall, like,

331 00:35:44.760 00:35:56.240 Uttam: like, kind of, like, simple comps that we want to get into the platform versus in past chat GPT projects. So I guess, like, is anyone, like, super opinionated about

332 00:35:56.560 00:36:00.360 Uttam: where we go. If not, then I have,

333 00:36:01.450 00:36:06.189 Uttam: I have some choices based on what is very top of mind for me.

334 00:36:10.820 00:36:12.160 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I would say…

335 00:36:12.160 00:36:13.529 Gabriel Lam: Oh, go for it, son.

336 00:36:13.530 00:36:15.999 Samuel Roberts: Nope. By all means, you first. I have other.

337 00:36:16.000 00:36:22.660 Gabriel Lam: I don’t think I have preferences for a direction, but I think my…

338 00:36:24.790 00:36:29.339 Gabriel Lam: Observation typically has been, if people are used to doing things a certain way.

339 00:36:29.920 00:36:36.280 Gabriel Lam: And if it works, then adding an assistant might not be as helpful, specifically when you talk about, like.

340 00:36:36.420 00:36:39.790 Gabriel Lam: knowing where your meetings or OO requests, things like that.

341 00:36:40.090 00:36:44.969 Gabriel Lam: but I think for things like sprint reviews, client reviews.

342 00:36:45.550 00:36:49.230 Gabriel Lam: and planning, I think that’ll be… much more helpful.

343 00:36:49.230 00:36:51.130 Casie Aviles: Where it’s more of a consolidation of…

344 00:36:51.130 00:36:54.100 Gabriel Lam: information and ideas, as opposed to, like, how do I…

345 00:36:54.620 00:36:56.639 Gabriel Lam: Do this, or get something out there.

346 00:36:59.750 00:37:11.940 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think I agree with that. You know, getting people into the platform was something useful. You know, putting their meeting… like, meetings exist somewhere in Calendar. We don’t necessarily need to replicate that yet, but once people are living in the platform, it becomes more useful to have stuff there.

347 00:37:12.100 00:37:26.319 Samuel Roberts: But I think getting them to use it for useful things, like you were saying, like the client… like, post-client meetings, or whatever, sales calls, or whatever, is… is the first… is a more useful, like, higher leverage thing.

348 00:37:26.600 00:37:43.340 Samuel Roberts: That would be… yeah, I would have the kind of same opinion there. My only other opinion would be, I think, like, you were starting to get at Thursday, Friday, kind of that, like, pre-shaping a little bit, that I was talking about the other day. So, like, we hit the ground running Monday with

349 00:37:43.480 00:37:46.830 Samuel Roberts: You know, maybe a few more rungs down that ladder.

350 00:37:47.110 00:37:50.600 Samuel Roberts: Which would give us more time to actually, like, iterate on.

351 00:37:51.290 00:37:54.859 Samuel Roberts: design and implementation and stuff. And then a little more…

352 00:37:55.280 00:38:04.080 Samuel Roberts: context and understanding from our point of view, so it’s not like Monday we’re just seeing your… your thoughts for the first time kind of thing. I think that… that’s my real… I think would help us

353 00:38:04.550 00:38:06.000 Samuel Roberts: Move the needle faster.

354 00:38:08.680 00:38:15.859 Uttam: Great. Yeah, I, I’m… Things are… things are getting better, but I am…

355 00:38:16.110 00:38:22.199 Uttam: Kind of, as you can tell, like, we’re just building more systems around trying to remove myself as the…

356 00:38:22.410 00:38:23.110 Uttam: sort of,

357 00:38:23.810 00:38:33.319 Uttam: linchpin in these things succeeding. There’s a bunch of different ways I’m trying to make that happen, but, yeah, that makes sense. I think in terms of next… yeah, go ahead.

358 00:38:33.320 00:38:41.509 Samuel Roberts: I was just gonna say, even, like, you having the PRDs, like, there’s a couple others in there. Like, even if it is just, like, Gabe and I sitting down and just, like, talking something through and shaping it a little bit and getting some other.

359 00:38:41.510 00:38:42.200 Uttam: Yeah.

360 00:38:42.280 00:38:47.339 Samuel Roberts: Like, you don’t necessarily need to be involved beyond the, like, here’s the idea, here’s my, like, rough…

361 00:38:47.500 00:38:53.559 Samuel Roberts: pre- idea of it, and then, like, we can shape that with that input. You know, I don’t… I think that’s…

362 00:38:53.890 00:39:05.200 Samuel Roberts: obviously, like, yeah, you’re a little over-leveraged on everything here right now, so I think if we can, you know, get it out of your head first, then shape it, and then bring it back to, like, you and the team, that’s probably not a bad…

363 00:39:05.500 00:39:07.510 Samuel Roberts: First pass at how to do something.

364 00:39:08.840 00:39:12.040 Samuel Roberts: Fitting it into a week, you know, scoping it right.

365 00:39:12.430 00:39:16.439 Samuel Roberts: figuring out the architectural stuff, like, and then hit the ground running building building Monday.

366 00:39:20.540 00:39:26.559 Uttam: I guess for, for next week, then, I think there’s,

367 00:39:27.920 00:39:42.679 Uttam: It’s so hard, because I want… we really need all of these, but let me, let me pitch you guys on two ideas, and if we feel good, I can make sure the PRDs exist. So, one big problem that we have,

368 00:39:42.950 00:39:50.569 Uttam: in the company, and Gabe, you may have seen messages from Robert, or you all have probably seen this, is just getting, like.

369 00:39:50.840 00:39:54.209 Uttam: Examples of the work that we did out.

370 00:39:55.430 00:39:58.700 Uttam: Whether it’s through blog posts or case studies.

371 00:39:59.010 00:40:03.700 Uttam: And this is a very manual process right now.

372 00:40:04.110 00:40:06.760 Uttam: That Hannah leads.

373 00:40:07.010 00:40:08.200 Uttam: And…

374 00:40:08.680 00:40:13.940 Uttam: to give you an example of the process, many of you guys have gone through this with Panda, where she probably calls you in.

375 00:40:14.000 00:40:16.040 Casie Aviles: We worked on an interview script.

376 00:40:16.040 00:40:20.220 Uttam: She takes that interview and then turns it into a case study.

377 00:40:20.430 00:40:27.410 Uttam: But right now, we’re, you know, we’re sort of in the moment where we’re shipping, like, 2 to 3 of those a week.

378 00:40:27.780 00:40:30.509 Uttam: And we probably have a backlog on, like.

379 00:40:30.910 00:40:36.899 Uttam: 50 or 60 different, like, I would say, projects, or, like, work streams.

380 00:40:37.030 00:40:40.580 Uttam: that we… Don’t have documentation on.

381 00:40:41.040 00:40:45.340 Uttam: And the objective of this next…

382 00:40:45.500 00:40:55.810 Uttam: Project is to improve the speed at which more people can Get assigned, and… and communicate

383 00:40:56.010 00:41:07.650 Uttam: like, the work that they did. And then in… through a case study, some type of case, like, case study, or just, like, some type of intake process. Yeah. And then that gets…

384 00:41:08.180 00:41:14.599 Uttam: provided to, Anna and the design team to build a case study, sort of…

385 00:41:14.880 00:41:22.049 Uttam: The key things it kind of, like, augments is… Skipping, like, one meeting, basically.

386 00:41:22.200 00:41:30.869 Uttam: So there’s probably no need for that meeting with Hannah. Second is, like, more people in the company can actually just, like, take an hour a week

387 00:41:31.290 00:41:33.680 Uttam: And… Sort of.

388 00:41:35.170 00:41:41.889 Uttam: Work with whatever this process is to… Write those.

389 00:41:42.690 00:41:52.280 Uttam: And so that’s kind of the idea. I have some, like, ideas on, like, what a potential solution could be here, but, like, that’s the… that would be the objective.

390 00:41:55.260 00:41:55.890 Samuel Roberts: Okay.

391 00:42:00.460 00:42:04.349 Samuel Roberts: I mean, there’s that, and there’s also, you know, we.

392 00:42:05.680 00:42:14.650 Uttam: There’s also things around… Sprint planning and sprint grooming, too, that are important.

393 00:42:14.870 00:42:17.750 Uttam: But I do feel like…

394 00:42:18.710 00:42:21.730 Uttam: The case study thing is, like, the number one, so…

395 00:42:26.310 00:42:27.269 Samuel Roberts: Okay, yeah, I mean…

396 00:42:27.270 00:42:27.669 Uttam: I just think.

397 00:42:27.670 00:42:33.099 Samuel Roberts: Is there… I think you had some stuff in a PRD for, like, sprint review stuff, right?

398 00:42:33.100 00:42:33.630 Uttam: Yeah.

399 00:42:34.290 00:42:38.269 Samuel Roberts: Is there anything for the case study yet, or is that something you would have.

400 00:42:38.270 00:42:38.910 Uttam: Not yet.

401 00:42:38.910 00:42:40.139 Samuel Roberts: Or… okay.

402 00:42:40.330 00:42:44.740 Uttam: Yeah, I’ll do that, I’ll do that today. As long as we feel okay with that scope, I can do that, yeah.

403 00:42:44.920 00:42:46.020 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think that’s definitely cool.

404 00:42:46.020 00:42:48.980 Zoran Selinger: That’s… that’s a pressing words.

405 00:42:49.320 00:42:50.689 Samuel Roberts: worth doing. Okay.

406 00:42:50.690 00:42:51.220 Zoran Selinger: story.

407 00:42:53.140 00:43:04.000 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, let’s… I’m… I’m definitely down to take a stab at it and see what we can… what we can get done, and scope into a week, and… or, you know, maybe build on… build on that as a V1v2 thing, so…

408 00:43:04.000 00:43:05.639 Gabriel Lam: Yeah, I can talk with Sam about that.

409 00:43:06.160 00:43:06.870 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, totally.

410 00:43:06.870 00:43:07.679 Uttam: Okay, cool.

411 00:43:08.300 00:43:12.290 Uttam: Okay, great. So yeah, I can work on that PRD today.

412 00:43:12.970 00:43:13.540 Samuel Roberts: Cool.

413 00:43:14.100 00:43:17.039 Uttam: Perfect. I guess let’s transition,

414 00:43:17.700 00:43:20.580 Uttam: To the next set of clients,

415 00:43:21.220 00:43:24.050 Uttam: Maybe we can talk about,

416 00:43:25.700 00:43:38.259 Uttam: maybe we can talk about Eden first. I guess I saw your notes, Robert, about sort of consolidating slides, but do we want to… we don’t have to cover that if everything’s kind of covered in your messages, but we’d go around.

417 00:43:38.260 00:43:47.780 Robert Tseng: Yeah, everything’s covered in the messages. That was just, like, kind of, yeah, I mean, I… I think overall the content was fine. Obviously, we didn’t fill out the weekly wins yet, but…

418 00:43:47.910 00:43:54.729 Robert Tseng: On the OKR planning, I already shared, kind of like, our plan to ELT this morning, so get their feedback, and…

419 00:43:55.490 00:43:59.819 Robert Tseng: Yeah. I think… I think we know what we’re aiming at now.

420 00:44:00.070 00:44:01.189 Robert Tseng: For the rest of the year.

421 00:44:03.510 00:44:04.080 Uttam: Okay.

422 00:44:04.970 00:44:07.620 Uttam: I guess anything else?

423 00:44:07.760 00:44:16.319 Uttam: on Eden, I think probably what I’ll do this week, then, is tag, Henry Yu, Zoran, to just help fill out those… that weekly win sheet, but…

424 00:44:16.770 00:44:17.600 Uttam: Yep.

425 00:44:17.600 00:44:18.639 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I think, Zoran, if we could.

426 00:44:18.640 00:44:19.290 Uttam: Anything else?

427 00:44:19.290 00:44:26.759 Robert Tseng: decision on the, I know we… I saw some messages, but, like, let’s just formally share that, the, you know, if…

428 00:44:27.190 00:44:31.959 Robert Tseng: If you feel ready to make that decision, we can… we can make the recommendation, but otherwise.

429 00:44:32.080 00:44:37.429 Robert Tseng: We have, like, our kind of ugly running dock, but, like, it would be great if we could just tell them

430 00:44:38.040 00:44:46.279 Robert Tseng: you know, if it could be just, like, a clean table, this is what we evaluated, da-da-da, like, and we’re recommending this. Like, I think that would be fine.

431 00:44:46.280 00:44:49.489 Zoran Selinger: Can it be an infographic?

432 00:44:49.810 00:44:51.150 Robert Tseng: Yeah, yeah, infographics, fine.

433 00:44:51.440 00:44:54.240 Zoran Selinger: Okay, cool. I’ll have that soon.

434 00:44:54.750 00:44:55.250 Robert Tseng: Okay.

435 00:44:55.250 00:44:55.820 Uttam: Peter.

436 00:44:56.060 00:45:00.090 Robert Tseng: But yeah, I mean, it seems like you want to go with Wicked Reports, and .

437 00:45:00.090 00:45:06.130 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, yeah. Okay. No, they’re just really… I think it’s a… it’s a really good fit.

438 00:45:06.690 00:45:21.110 Zoran Selinger: Because they… they really… they can ingest what we have, and the setup is pretty easy. It can be… we can have hashed identifiers as well, we just have to be very consistent in what we’re doing.

439 00:45:21.460 00:45:23.600 Zoran Selinger: okay. Yeah.

440 00:45:23.600 00:45:23.980 Robert Tseng: Yeah.

441 00:45:23.980 00:45:29.120 Zoran Selinger: access to, you know, the CTO through Slack, and

442 00:45:29.420 00:45:38.209 Zoran Selinger: yeah, I’m… I’m optimistic. We can… we can do this, and also, you know, the clients are… they’re very happy.

443 00:45:38.540 00:45:40.990 Zoran Selinger: If we’re gonna go with, with them.

444 00:45:42.340 00:45:43.090 Robert Tseng: Sure.

445 00:45:45.570 00:45:52.470 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, so for this, it’s… it’s… there’s no really… they’re the only ones that… that can do

446 00:45:52.910 00:45:59.920 Zoran Selinger: what… what we… what we want to do, really. No one else can, at least not at the moment. I think…

447 00:46:00.170 00:46:09.949 Zoran Selinger: Everyone from the conversations now are aware that this is probably a feature they will want to have in the future.

448 00:46:10.380 00:46:20.160 Zoran Selinger: So I’m expecting that we will see this capability from all of them eventually. But right now, this is the only one that supports it.

449 00:46:21.100 00:46:24.289 Robert Tseng: Okay, just want to clear up, you didn’t actually commit to that yet, right?

450 00:46:24.290 00:46:25.150 Zoran Selinger: Oh, no.

451 00:46:25.150 00:46:28.629 Robert Tseng: Yeah, okay. They gave you pricing, what is it, like, 40K a year or something?

452 00:46:29.100 00:46:33.320 Zoran Selinger: It, looks like around 5.5 a month.

453 00:46:34.880 00:46:35.350 Robert Tseng: I…

454 00:46:35.350 00:46:41.089 Uttam: Can you, do we have to… do we have to sign with them before we do this? Like, can you just have them build it first?

455 00:46:41.800 00:46:43.400 Uttam: And test that it works.

456 00:46:44.090 00:46:53.179 Robert Tseng: Yeah, like, in the recommendation, I want to just have, like, a… this is, like, a pilot, maybe, like, they’re gonna get us onboarded for a week, two weeks, and then…

457 00:46:53.430 00:46:59.930 Robert Tseng: I mean, I just… I need some time to negotiate the contract. They pay $5,000 a month for Northbeam, so, I mean, I don’t…

458 00:47:00.060 00:47:08.240 Robert Tseng: ideally, I would want them to pay the same or less, by switching to them, to a good, and I mean, I feel like we have the leverage here, so…

459 00:47:08.710 00:47:13.750 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, yeah, so what I could… from what I could see in the pricing, it’s, you know.

460 00:47:14.220 00:47:22.370 Zoran Selinger: 5.2K or 5.5, depending on… there’s two additional features that we get in the… in the more expensive one.

461 00:47:22.480 00:47:23.510 Zoran Selinger: That’s it.

462 00:47:24.560 00:47:26.490 Zoran Selinger: So, right about there.

463 00:47:28.360 00:47:34.540 Robert Tseng: Okay. Well, I can… I can help handle the pricing negotiations there, but yeah, I guess we can…

464 00:47:34.670 00:47:39.660 Robert Tseng: Yeah, this… give me the information that I need to be able to help with that.

465 00:47:39.660 00:47:40.260 Zoran Selinger: Sure.

466 00:47:40.850 00:47:41.400 Robert Tseng: Yeah.

467 00:47:48.440 00:47:50.310 Robert Tseng: Okay, then,

468 00:47:51.710 00:48:06.120 Robert Tseng: I mean, other outstanding things, seems like the attribution work is going to take another week. I don’t think anybody’s, like, urgently asking for it, so not a problem there. Jonah did come back with, like, requests, so I think, Amber, when you get around to it, you can add that to our board.

469 00:48:07.590 00:48:16.259 Robert Tseng: And then I already reviewed Henry’s Mixpanel, like, plan, so I think that’s good, too. Also worth sending a message out today if we feel comfortable.

470 00:48:16.390 00:48:22.630 Robert Tseng: Sharing that doc and just giving a few bullet points on, like, okay, we’re gonna really push for this next week.

471 00:48:23.140 00:48:33.000 Robert Tseng: And really just tag Ryan and Judd, and we have to just, like, put a couple placeholders on their calendar, just, like, start to make this more real, that we’re, like, really focused on training.

472 00:48:33.070 00:48:50.009 Robert Tseng: these two people first, or, I mean, you can decide the order. If you want to do one at a time, or you want to do two, up to you. But I feel like you can just lump them all in the same session. If you want to throw him… him, Judd, and… and, I guess, Danny all together, I mean, I’m sure they would…

473 00:48:50.500 00:48:56.489 Robert Tseng: internal folks are willing to jump on whatever calls, and I’m… you know, if you… if you’re driving that, I think they will attend.

474 00:48:56.860 00:48:57.910 Henry Zhao: And then I can probably just…

475 00:48:58.250 00:49:00.450 Uttam Kumaran: Anyone that misses it can just watch the recording.

476 00:49:00.840 00:49:09.770 Robert Tseng: Yeah, exactly. So you don’t need to do 3 separate meetings a week with them, exactly. Just host one session, try to add them all, but then if they don’t show up, share the recording. Yep.

477 00:49:12.310 00:49:19.970 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I saw there were a couple segment issues as well. Seems like we basically updated our tracking to be able to do the edge layer thing.

478 00:49:20.990 00:49:23.309 Robert Tseng: I did send a,

479 00:49:23.740 00:49:40.730 Robert Tseng: sample customer data table. I know Henry took… looked at it yesterday, but I guess Awash, if you want to look at that message I sent as well. I’m doing a segment audit for another client, so I just saw, like, hey, it’s cool that they’ve built out all of this stuff within segment itself.

480 00:49:40.770 00:49:49.170 Robert Tseng: we pretty much did the same thing in BigQuery. I’m not really sure if ours is better or worse, I just wanted to see if there were any learnings from that.

481 00:49:49.330 00:49:56.609 Robert Tseng: And then, yeah, I think I have a… I… yeah, anyway, I think…

482 00:49:56.800 00:49:58.970 Robert Tseng: That’s… that’s just the feedback there.

483 00:50:01.760 00:50:06.640 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I don’t need to add more to the roadmap today, I think it’s just… it’s Friday at this point, so…

484 00:50:07.100 00:50:07.830 Robert Tseng: Yeah.

485 00:50:10.960 00:50:15.090 Amber Lin: Should I tick it out, what we just said?

486 00:50:15.520 00:50:17.569 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, Amber, can I share? I don’t… yeah, let’s…

487 00:50:17.570 00:50:17.970 Amber Lin: G’day!

488 00:50:17.970 00:50:19.500 Uttam Kumaran: I do any linear, yeah.

489 00:50:19.950 00:50:24.130 Uttam Kumaran: So, yeah, I just want to make sure that we have slides for…

490 00:50:24.320 00:50:28.400 Uttam Kumaran: Everything that needs to end up in the project review doc.

491 00:50:28.710 00:50:36.779 Uttam Kumaran: So let me just share this. So we need a slide on Mixpanel, we need a slide on Wicked, right? What else do we need?

492 00:50:41.430 00:50:54.989 Robert Tseng: The Remo Audit slide 7, I think that’s… is that the same as, like, last week’s, or is that something new that we’re sharing? Seems like we received something new for document… I mean, we can also separate them out. No, CERF has.

493 00:50:55.220 00:50:59.989 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, Surf has something new, I don’t care. If you’re gonna talk to them about everything, just talk to them about everything, it’s fine.

494 00:51:00.700 00:51:08.200 Robert Tseng: Okay, I mean, I wasn’t planning to call them today, I was just gonna send this async stuff, and if they want to call me, they can, but.

495 00:51:08.610 00:51:12.889 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, I thought your… I thought you were planning your meeting… you’re meeting with them formally Wednesday, right? So, our goal.

496 00:51:12.890 00:51:13.489 Robert Tseng: Yeah, when’s that?

497 00:51:13.490 00:51:18.560 Uttam Kumaran: have… Basically, our goal was, like, I was like, let’s do a V1 by today.

498 00:51:18.780 00:51:20.300 Uttam Kumaran: Yep. So that I can…

499 00:51:20.550 00:51:30.990 Uttam Kumaran: So that we… me and you can, like, pick at it, and then I can also… if we need to do any visual cleanup, we have some time. So that’s kind of, like, the hope is. So let me just, like, tag surf here.

500 00:51:31.380 00:51:41.900 Uttam Kumaran: To update, and then, yeah, Amber, if you can also message Surf, he can kind of update this slide. We need one thing on Wicked, we need something on,

501 00:51:42.720 00:51:49.169 Uttam Kumaran: McCannel, Right? What else for…

502 00:51:49.940 00:51:52.860 Uttam Kumaran: This week. And then we’ll fill out this, but…

503 00:51:56.800 00:51:58.259 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna remove this.

504 00:51:59.490 00:52:00.110 Robert Tseng: Yeah.

505 00:52:00.520 00:52:02.560 Uttam Kumaran: We… I can… I can work on these, but is there any other…

506 00:52:02.560 00:52:03.520 Robert Tseng: You can update slides, yeah.

507 00:52:04.040 00:52:04.910 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

508 00:52:05.510 00:52:11.290 Robert Tseng: No, I think those are… those are the main things.

509 00:52:11.540 00:52:12.520 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, that’s awesome.

510 00:52:12.520 00:52:13.430 Uttam Kumaran: on the.

511 00:52:14.200 00:52:19.190 Demilade Agboola: For Eden, we did some refunds, like, we’ve gotten the refunds dashboard.

512 00:52:19.690 00:52:27.790 Demilade Agboola: So they wanted to see, like, the changes in their NCAC due to refund, so we’ve been able to add that to their dashboards.

513 00:52:28.240 00:52:34.609 Robert Tseng: Yeah, that’s a great way to share. We could just easily just screenshot a dashboard and then throw a couple bullet points, like, we should… yeah.

514 00:52:34.960 00:52:37.739 Robert Tseng: And then, like, a link to the Tableau report.

515 00:52:38.140 00:52:51.820 Robert Tseng: Like, you can see Josh is, like, in the dock right now. Like, they do come to this stuff, they jump in whenever they want, and, like, yeah, we may not be ready to do the full readout until Wednesday, but, you know, I think it’s just worth linking out to things from here.

516 00:52:53.870 00:53:00.430 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool, so… Okay, so these are 3 good ones.

517 00:53:01.470 00:53:10.260 Uttam Kumaran: Great, and then let’s talk about for our, like, the Q4… deck.

518 00:53:10.800 00:53:14.089 Uttam Kumaran: So we want to have a slide

519 00:53:14.520 00:53:18.199 Uttam Kumaran: Do we want to do any… do we want to do a specific slide on…

520 00:53:18.370 00:53:20.499 Uttam Kumaran: Mixed panel here as well.

521 00:53:20.720 00:53:22.030 Uttam Kumaran: Or… do you think…

522 00:53:22.030 00:53:28.500 Robert Tseng: There already is one. I thought this was fine. Like, I left some comments for Amber to kind of address, but otherwise, like, I think…

523 00:53:28.750 00:53:32.430 Robert Tseng: Like, this slide… this deck should always be high level, just like…

524 00:53:32.740 00:53:40.839 Robert Tseng: objective, like, what we’re trying to accomplish. I don’t… I don’t want any of the how or, like, the wins can be on the other deck, so, yeah.

525 00:53:40.840 00:53:49.719 Uttam Kumaran: I guess the only other, like, overarching thing that could be helpful here is literally, like, a diagram of Eden’s technology.

526 00:53:50.330 00:53:53.610 Uttam Kumaran: At least on the data reporting side. Like, we can do an.

527 00:53:53.610 00:53:54.080 Robert Tseng: I’m gonna die.

528 00:53:54.080 00:53:57.200 Uttam Kumaran: diagram with everything, if that’s helpful to have. It’s a visual.

529 00:53:57.200 00:54:02.329 Robert Tseng: Well, we have this Figma thing that we… I was maintaining before. I don’t really think we’ve.

530 00:54:02.330 00:54:05.830 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, we’ll just, we’ll just update, we’ll just basically update that.

531 00:54:06.720 00:54:09.889 Uttam Kumaran: Because I also think it… I don’t know if it’s important for you to have, like.

532 00:54:10.040 00:54:15.490 Uttam Kumaran: Literally do a slide on, like, here’s how much you’re paying in tooling, here are all the tools.

533 00:54:16.440 00:54:17.219 Uttam Kumaran: And here’s the kind.

534 00:54:17.220 00:54:22.039 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, that’s what the data platform documentation was supposed to be, but, yeah.

535 00:54:37.530 00:54:43.210 Uttam Kumaran: I’m just gonna put something here for… Data…

536 00:54:44.510 00:54:51.800 Robert Tseng: Yeah, it could literally just be data platform documentation that links out to the thing, and then, like, the Figma also gets, like, a…

537 00:54:52.310 00:54:53.090 Robert Tseng: Thanks.

538 00:54:53.430 00:54:58.190 Robert Tseng: I haven’t opened this Figma in so long, I don’t even know what it’s called.

539 00:55:00.370 00:55:01.770 Uttam Kumaran: It’s there somewhere.

540 00:55:01.770 00:55:03.159 Robert Tseng: Yeah, it’s the same way.

541 00:55:03.720 00:55:05.960 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great. Let’s talk about,

542 00:55:06.250 00:55:08.450 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s talk about the Insomnia deck.

543 00:55:14.020 00:55:17.629 Uttam Kumaran: Pull that up…

544 00:55:17.820 00:55:22.629 Amber Lin: There’s not much in there. I got started yesterday, but it was too late.

545 00:55:23.240 00:55:28.720 Uttam Kumaran: No, that’s fine, I didn’t… we didn’t… nobody gave you any feedback anyway, so… Ron’s gonna cover it today.

546 00:55:30.080 00:55:36.360 Uttam Kumaran: So, I guess we wanted to cover your findings

547 00:55:36.710 00:55:43.710 Uttam Kumaran: Amber, we also wanted to… I wanted to do a slide on, yeah, kind of proposed architecture, so I can work on

548 00:55:44.330 00:55:51.280 Uttam Kumaran: I can work on this, and this is also gonna be something around, like,

549 00:55:58.570 00:56:02.330 Uttam Kumaran: Like, risk and opportunity.

550 00:56:07.310 00:56:15.059 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. What else do we need to have slides on here? So Amber, you have… there’s one slide from… from…

551 00:56:16.290 00:56:19.600 Uttam Kumaran: From you, what… I guess… yeah, tell me what else we need here.

552 00:56:27.220 00:56:27.890 Amber Lin: Let’s see…

553 00:56:30.040 00:56:40.079 Amber Lin: Can we tell them the current state about the current status and all that, or is that something we’re just figuring out ourselves and don’t need them to get involved?

554 00:56:40.880 00:56:43.040 Uttam Kumaran: No, I’ll talk about Braze.

555 00:56:44.050 00:56:49.510 Uttam Kumaran: Concurrence… Like, what analysis…

556 00:56:50.060 00:56:54.470 Uttam Kumaran: Is there another… are there other decks for the kind of analysis that you’re working on, or do you want to…

557 00:56:55.390 00:57:05.379 Amber Lin: I haven’t put them into decks yet. I guess for Robert, should I have them in a separate deck? Because I know you want analysis in a different place.

558 00:57:05.690 00:57:13.430 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I kind of want to do a similar thing as, like, what we’re doing for Eden now. Like, one running deck that’s just, like, the high-level stuff that

559 00:57:13.690 00:57:29.910 Robert Tseng: when I meet with Amrita today, I’m gonna pull this up, and I’m gonna… shit, we’re just gonna walk through it. We don’t have to worry about creating slides for your analysis, like, I think I’m gonna spend my time kind of referencing the stuff that we already did this past week that they haven’t really given feedback on.

560 00:57:30.020 00:57:37.240 Robert Tseng: So, that, and then… but if you have, like, some bullets on, like, this is what’s coming, I think that would be helpful.

561 00:57:37.240 00:57:42.249 Amber Lin: Yeah, awesome. I will… I’ll consolidate the bullets. That… that I can do pretty quickly.

562 00:57:42.580 00:57:48.709 Robert Tseng: Yeah, and when I say bullets, like, I’m thinking, like, you outline your, you know, every slide, like, the way I do the bullets is just…

563 00:57:49.040 00:57:56.900 Robert Tseng: the header of every slide, it becomes a bullet. Like, it just… it’s a very clear takeaway of what they’re gonna see anyway. So, that’s… that’s all I really need. Yeah.

564 00:57:56.900 00:58:02.570 Amber Lin: Yeah, I have the findings, I need to make a narrative out of them, so once I do that, I’ll send you the…

565 00:58:02.740 00:58:04.569 Amber Lin: Like, the narrative bullets.

566 00:58:06.950 00:58:11.829 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so should I put it here as just, like, open, like, active analyses? Or, like…

567 00:58:12.080 00:58:17.519 Uttam Kumaran: Because we’re… for Eden, we’re not really doing… I mean, we’re gonna move more towards this, like, analysis portion.

568 00:58:18.150 00:58:22.100 Uttam Kumaran: So, if I was to do a slide on, like, that, should I…

569 00:58:22.870 00:58:26.760 Uttam Kumaran: there… we have some wins for Insomnia, but I would rather have, kind of, like.

570 00:58:28.010 00:58:31.250 Robert Tseng: I think each analysis should just be its own slide, yeah.

571 00:58:31.700 00:58:33.540 Robert Tseng: It could even just be, like.

572 00:58:33.970 00:58:35.019 Uttam Kumaran: I see, okay.

573 00:58:35.550 00:58:36.390 Robert Tseng: Yeah.

574 00:58:36.810 00:58:38.060 Robert Tseng: And…

575 00:58:38.360 00:58:48.540 Robert Tseng: I mean, we labeled… every analysis had a name to it, we can link to the… whatever it was, and then we can just, like, throw the bullets of the takeaways on the same slide again. Like, that’s…

576 00:58:48.540 00:58:49.269 Uttam Kumaran: Right, okay.

577 00:58:49.420 00:58:50.010 Robert Tseng: Yeah.

578 00:58:52.220 00:58:52.810 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

579 00:58:53.290 00:58:56.449 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, these are both in a place where I can now get, like.

580 00:58:57.310 00:59:02.580 Uttam Kumaran: like, if we do a first pass at this stuff, I can then work with Hannah to, like, get, like, a cleaned,

581 00:59:02.930 00:59:05.310 Uttam Kumaran: doc for us to use each week, so, okay.

582 00:59:05.930 00:59:09.969 Robert Tseng: Yeah. Okay, cool, so I think for Insomnia, we’re gonna have.

583 00:59:10.880 00:59:16.100 Uttam Kumaran: Two slides on analyses, and then open opportunities, new requests, risks.

584 00:59:16.400 00:59:18.490 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah. Okay.

585 00:59:18.890 00:59:20.210 Robert Tseng: Yeah.

586 00:59:21.140 00:59:30.810 Robert Tseng: I would say this one’s a slightly higher priority than Eden, because I’m talking to them in 3 hours. Eden, I’m not planning to talk to them today, so, like, I would prefer to get this one in order.

587 00:59:33.150 00:59:33.710 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

588 00:59:35.220 00:59:43.670 Uttam Kumaran: Great, let’s talk about, honey Stinger, so… Yesterday.

589 00:59:43.860 00:59:47.080 Uttam Kumaran: Sam and I worked on getting,

590 00:59:47.490 00:59:50.430 Uttam Kumaran: a bunch of data landed. Maybe, Sam, do you want to give an update?

591 00:59:51.120 00:59:52.509 Uttam Kumaran: Stuff so far.

592 00:59:52.990 00:59:59.420 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I believe, I was having some issues with Shopify, but it looked like they were going through. Did you update that?

593 01:00:00.510 01:00:01.689 Samuel Roberts: Yesterday, it looked like the…

594 01:00:01.690 01:00:04.969 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I did. Yeah, it’s all fixed.

595 01:00:05.240 01:00:11.310 Samuel Roberts: Okay, so yeah, Shopify’s good, Fabio’s good, we had some issues with Walmart,

596 01:00:12.570 01:00:17.649 Samuel Roberts: And I was in the middle of Amazon that I should finish up, but then we should be good getting everything into Mother Duck.

597 01:00:19.030 01:00:23.229 Uttam Kumaran: So, like, our meeting’s around, like, 1. You think we’ll have everything…

598 01:00:23.440 01:00:26.099 Uttam Kumaran: Landed there, sort of by then.

599 01:00:27.240 01:00:31.920 Samuel Roberts: I think Walmart is the question mark still, right? .

600 01:00:31.920 01:00:33.469 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, minus Walmart.

601 01:00:33.780 01:00:35.750 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think so. I think we should be good.

602 01:00:36.380 01:00:42.769 Uttam Kumaran: Can you, did you, did you end up requesting the light connector for Walmart ESP?

603 01:00:45.070 01:00:49.939 Samuel Roberts: The one in, the, the, yeah, the private one.

604 01:00:50.550 01:00:51.210 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

605 01:00:51.470 01:01:01.399 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I did put that in. I don’t know how long that can take. It said at least 24 hours to get a response, but I don’t know if that means an immediate, like, approval or not, or just a… they’ve received it.

606 01:01:02.160 01:01:06.740 Uttam Kumaran: So, but at least we have Amazon and… Shopify there.

607 01:01:07.050 01:01:08.679 Uttam Kumaran: Or, like, what happened with Amazon?

608 01:01:09.370 01:01:16.779 Samuel Roberts: I think I… I don’t know if I finished Amazon last night before I got offline, so I will finish that up today, but, yeah. I think I was still trying to figure out stuff.

609 01:01:16.780 01:01:17.380 Uttam Kumaran: Wicked.

610 01:01:17.380 01:01:24.819 Samuel Roberts: Shopify, yeah. We can have those two, because most of their sales are through Amazon, so if we can have Amazon, both their Shopifies, because Klavio landed today.

611 01:01:24.820 01:01:34.940 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll be in a good spot to talk about, kind of, like, what the path is, with Byron. And then, yeah, I’m just gonna talk about our roadmap that we talked about on Wednesday, so no problem there.

612 01:01:35.270 01:01:42.620 Uttam Kumaran: On Hydra, yeah, I’m meeting with them later today.

613 01:01:42.930 01:01:49.400 Uttam Kumaran: This week, I set up dbt, set up Snowflake, set up Polyatomic, set up HEX,

614 01:01:49.590 01:01:51.369 Uttam Kumaran: And landed all the data.

615 01:01:53.390 01:01:54.930 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I think…

616 01:01:55.770 01:01:58.300 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, it’s just like… star…

617 01:01:58.830 01:02:02.050 Robert Tseng: Wish it was that easy for insomnia.

618 01:02:03.420 01:02:16.749 Uttam Kumaran: So really, I think the core of this project is gonna be a lot of just, like, hardcore modeling to get us to a few reporting marks. So Demolade will be helping me out there. I’m gonna get the requirements Demolade today.

619 01:02:16.780 01:02:25.769 Uttam Kumaran: And then on Monday, we can… we can kick off. It’ll just be pure DBT work, probably, for another 2-3 weeks. This… this project is, like, no…

620 01:02:25.860 01:02:29.539 Uttam Kumaran: Dashboarding, it’s just pure modeling, so…

621 01:02:29.660 01:02:32.610 Uttam Kumaran: That’ll be the goal. Team seems pretty cool.

622 01:02:32.780 01:02:40.379 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, like, nothing yet to say on that. I will say, though, that if I was able to do all that in a week.

623 01:02:40.620 01:02:49.970 Uttam Kumaran: Like, that’s pretty cool. That takes some teams, kind of, like, more than a month or two to do. And so…

624 01:02:50.220 01:02:52.599 Uttam Kumaran: We should find some way to package that, for sure.

625 01:02:52.600 01:02:56.279 Robert Tseng: Yeah, we’re… I probably spent, like, 10 hours total. Yeah.

626 01:02:56.280 01:02:56.920 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

627 01:02:57.200 01:03:03.300 Uttam Kumaran: I probably spent maybe… 10 hours total, or less, for all of that.

628 01:03:05.570 01:03:11.819 Uttam Kumaran: So… so that’s one thing, and then for default, yeah, I would say, Mustafa, you’re on the hook to kind of get things updated.

629 01:03:11.930 01:03:17.860 Uttam Kumaran: They loved our analysis yesterday, so shout out to… to Amber on that.

630 01:03:18.030 01:03:21.520 Uttam Kumaran: They,

631 01:03:21.830 01:03:37.799 Uttam Kumaran: they’re, like, about to decide on, like, pricing for their new platform, and I think a lot of the work that we just did is gonna help them inform them on their pricing. So that meeting we had with Caitlin is recorded in platform, a great example of, like, working with the customer to explain the fundamentals of

632 01:03:37.850 01:03:54.490 Uttam Kumaran: how they can price their SaaS product, the nuances of their tool, and then, like, we basically ran experiments on how much money was coming in versus uses of the platform. We segmented all their customers so we can show who’s paying more across segments.

633 01:03:54.670 01:04:00.170 Uttam Kumaran: and basically, on the call, Caitlin was like, how do… we need to get you guys more budget.

634 01:04:00.310 01:04:03.299 Uttam Kumaran: So, it was very, very good.

635 01:04:03.510 01:04:11.849 Uttam Kumaran: that… that was a very, revenue-positive call, I think. So, we have more… more work there to be done, but pretty good.

636 01:04:11.980 01:04:15.399 Uttam Kumaran: What else am I missing?

637 01:04:18.400 01:04:23.969 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think, I think, read me, maybe we can just send a message.

638 01:04:23.970 01:04:29.990 Robert Tseng: Shalla sent a message today? Let’s just… yeah. I mean, I can, I can, I can, I can just shoot a message. That’s the problem.

639 01:04:29.990 01:04:32.899 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that would be great. And then…

640 01:04:32.900 01:04:33.570 Amber Lin: stamps.

641 01:04:33.570 01:04:34.180 Uttam Kumaran: Out.

642 01:04:34.610 01:04:46.619 Uttam Kumaran: Urban Stems, yeah, so Awash is kind of, like, Awash and Demi are sort of moving that along. This week, we made a lot of changes to the way we’re pushing, code and, like, some of the stability issues.

643 01:04:46.820 01:04:54.530 Uttam Kumaran: I pushed, like, a fat performance PR this week, so stuff should be running a lot faster. The number one priority is just

644 01:04:54.660 01:04:56.820 Uttam Kumaran: getting through Looker stuff, so…

645 01:04:57.020 01:05:01.910 Uttam Kumaran: That’s kind of, like, what I want to see next week. And then next week, I’m gonna work with Robert on…

646 01:05:02.150 01:05:09.610 Uttam Kumaran: Sort of putting together scope for the two next initiatives, which is, like, forecasting and shipping, sizing the opportunity, and then that’s, like.

647 01:05:10.210 01:05:17.699 Uttam Kumaran: That basically hinges on the… that’s gonna be what hinges on the renewal. I would like us to move from just modeling to Modeling Plus.

648 01:05:18.190 01:05:23.610 Uttam Kumaran: At least maintaining the budget we have. So let’s see what we can do there.

649 01:05:24.030 01:05:29.030 Uttam Kumaran: Abc, I need to work with you, Amber, on some point on, like, doing a…

650 01:05:29.210 01:05:32.630 Uttam Kumaran: download on, like, how that month… that meeting went on Tuesday, but it was positive.

651 01:05:33.120 01:05:38.000 Uttam Kumaran: So, I just need to call you and do that today sometime.

652 01:05:39.600 01:05:45.319 Uttam Kumaran: It’s, it’s another sort of, like, Discovery Month project.

653 01:05:45.320 01:05:46.120 Amber Lin: Oh, okay.

654 01:05:47.220 01:05:54.970 Uttam Kumaran: So… That’s great, what am I missing?

655 01:05:56.950 01:06:00.409 Amber Lin: ellie, you were saying?

656 01:06:00.580 01:06:01.629 Uttam Kumaran: Talked about Ellie.

657 01:06:01.740 01:06:03.170 Uttam Kumaran: Talk about default.

658 01:06:03.210 01:06:06.519 Amber Lin: Cool. Talked about Remo, talked to ABCs, talked about Urban Stems…

659 01:06:07.410 01:06:20.299 Robert Tseng: I’ll say one more thing. I wrapped up this, like, short paid discovery that I did yesterday, so yeah, I’m gonna basically pitch him on a full scope of work now. I think this is gonna come under Zoran’s, like.

660 01:06:21.530 01:06:36.899 Robert Tseng: scope, the needs are kind of, attribution, once again. Like, I think their UTM coverage is pretty low, it’s, like, below 60%, so I think there’s opportunity there. It’s a pure Shopify, or it’s a Shopify and Amazon business.

661 01:06:37.300 01:06:39.539 Robert Tseng: Then there’s kind of, like, I think.

662 01:06:39.730 01:07:04.579 Robert Tseng: questions around their order completed accuracy, so, like, it feels very similar to, like, kind of work we recently just did with Eden. It’s much simpler, though, there’s no HIPAA kind of, like, requirements there. And then they’re also interested in a portion of the same scope as the Honey Stinger, so kind of that, like, Amazon, Shopify customer matching, or kind of doing some preliminary, like, omni-channel analysis. So I’m gonna package those three things together and send that

663 01:07:04.580 01:07:07.239 Robert Tseng: to them today, but, I think that’s a…

664 01:07:07.320 01:07:11.749 Robert Tseng: I think the initial findings were positive yesterday, so…

665 01:07:12.630 01:07:29.499 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. So yeah, on Monday, on delivery meeting, we’ll talk about allocations for CES, Hydra, Hydra, Persimmon Company, and Honey Stinger. I sort of got… I don’t know what the name is, or I keep forgetting. I don’t know, so I kind of got some overview from Sam on sort of his availability.

666 01:07:29.500 01:07:36.559 Uttam Kumaran: I kind of know Zoran is your availability. Demi’s gonna kinda help me on this sprint for Hedra, so we can talk on Monday on, like, who’s gonna…

667 01:07:37.020 01:07:47.219 Uttam Kumaran: hit what? I think, depending on it, I think even, Zoran, you could help me on CES. That hasn’t closed yet, but, like, I just want to kind of have plans

668 01:07:47.320 01:07:52.260 Uttam Kumaran: Especially if everybody knows… I think my one ask is if you know your holiday schedule.

669 01:07:52.600 01:07:57.040 Uttam Kumaran: That’s probably what I’ll ask, so that we can plan out a little bit of, like, November and December.

670 01:07:57.310 01:08:03.260 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay great.

671 01:08:04.350 01:08:08.890 Henry Zhao: I also sent in Hunter the Klaviyo analysis doc, so if anyone has some.

672 01:08:08.890 01:08:10.280 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yes.

673 01:08:10.280 01:08:10.920 Henry Zhao: No.

674 01:08:10.920 01:08:22.140 Uttam Kumaran: Can you send that in, Good call, can you send that in, like, the data team? And then if anyone else wants to give comments there, please give some comments, and yeah, that’s… I want to present on that, too.

675 01:08:22.760 01:08:25.629 Henry Zhao: Yeah, that’s definitely something our AI team could work on and create something good.

676 01:08:26.279 01:08:27.119 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay.

677 01:08:27.529 01:08:28.290 Henry Zhao: Cool.

678 01:08:29.439 01:08:30.109 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

679 01:08:31.470 01:08:32.310 Robert Tseng: Alright.

680 01:08:32.319 01:08:32.879 Uttam Kumaran: Cool.

681 01:08:33.080 01:08:35.250 Robert Tseng: Work team, close out the week.

682 01:08:35.250 01:08:36.120 Uttam Kumaran: Smooth.

683 01:08:37.529 01:08:43.020 Uttam Kumaran: Thanks, guys. And we have AI team has really some sick stuff to share on Monday.

684 01:08:43.380 01:08:48.949 Uttam Kumaran: On this new stand-up thing we’re working on, and you guys missed the back half, we’re gonna plan this, like, case study

685 01:08:49.670 01:08:54.550 Uttam Kumaran: Intake tool to, like, improve the amount of case studies we get out, so…

686 01:08:54.899 01:08:55.729 Robert Tseng: Okay, great.

687 01:08:55.729 01:08:58.299 Uttam Kumaran: So, whole team there is crushing it, too.

688 01:09:01.139 01:09:01.899 Robert Tseng: Okay.

689 01:09:01.899 01:09:03.099 Uttam Kumaran: Alright, thanks everyone.

690 01:09:03.099 01:09:04.180 Zoran Selinger: Good trade, right?

691 01:09:04.189 01:09:04.639 Samuel Roberts: Everyone?