Meeting Title: ABC Project Weekly Planning Date: 2025-11-04 Meeting participants: Samuel Roberts, Gabriel Lam, Casie Aviles, Mustafa Raja
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1 00:00:22.810 ⇒ 00:00:25.240 Samuel Roberts: There we go. Alright.
2 00:00:25.540 ⇒ 00:00:30.080 Samuel Roberts: So I think probably the best place to start is to see what the current status of the one that
3 00:00:30.260 ⇒ 00:00:33.680 Samuel Roberts: the… the other… Emerge.
4 00:00:34.060 ⇒ 00:00:37.310 Samuel Roberts: So, we have a loom.
5 00:00:39.150 ⇒ 00:00:43.690 Samuel Roberts: But, does someone want to just share and walk through that, Mustafa, maybe?
6 00:00:45.850 ⇒ 00:00:47.820 Samuel Roberts: Just to get us all on the same page for this meeting.
7 00:00:56.590 ⇒ 00:00:57.460 Samuel Roberts: Hello?
8 00:00:57.460 ⇒ 00:01:00.639 Gabriel Lam: Yeah, I… I’m seeing the infer alert end.
9 00:01:00.990 ⇒ 00:01:05.110 Gabriel Lam: I don’t know if it’s me, but I can’t see the deployed.
10 00:01:08.020 ⇒ 00:01:10.289 Samuel Roberts: Oh, the one I sent? Or the one I tagged you in?
11 00:01:10.290 ⇒ 00:01:11.890 Gabriel Lam: Yeah… Wow.
12 00:01:11.890 ⇒ 00:01:12.870 Samuel Roberts: Oh, okay.
13 00:01:12.930 ⇒ 00:01:17.349 Gabriel Lam: I don’t know if it’s on my end.
14 00:01:17.350 ⇒ 00:01:21.739 Samuel Roberts: Here, I’m just gonna send it right here, then. This is the…
15 00:01:35.160 ⇒ 00:01:36.330 Samuel Roberts: So yeah, I think…
16 00:01:39.220 ⇒ 00:01:43.069 Samuel Roberts: I think this took care of a few things that are there. Like, let’s try to do…
17 00:01:43.240 ⇒ 00:01:46.439 Samuel Roberts: ABC… I’m gonna have to do with the dolls, I’m just gonna refresh.
18 00:01:54.570 ⇒ 00:01:55.110 Mustafa Raja: Hey.
19 00:01:56.100 ⇒ 00:01:56.930 Samuel Roberts: Oh, pay.
20 00:01:57.290 ⇒ 00:02:02.639 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so do you want to go through the… the… the merger need?
21 00:02:02.640 ⇒ 00:02:04.790 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, that’s what I think we should start with.
22 00:02:05.140 ⇒ 00:02:07.510 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, I just… Let me share my screen.
23 00:02:07.510 ⇒ 00:02:08.789 Samuel Roberts: Okay, go for it, yeah.
24 00:02:10.789 ⇒ 00:02:14.030 Mustafa Raja: Sorry, my internet is a little choppy today.
25 00:02:14.230 ⇒ 00:02:14.830 Samuel Roberts: No problem.
26 00:02:25.690 ⇒ 00:02:27.270 Mustafa Raja: Okay, so…
27 00:02:28.920 ⇒ 00:02:35.189 Mustafa Raja: So the, so the tool, Stand Up Assistant, assistant is under the AI tools.
28 00:02:35.760 ⇒ 00:02:38.269 Mustafa Raja: So if we go in the…
29 00:02:38.740 ⇒ 00:02:56.719 Mustafa Raja: We’ll see, okay. So these are… this actually was generated yesterday, we can see that, from last updated, and it persists all of it. And then if we change the client, we’ll see, okay, we have the weekly goals by client, and also the output is by client.
30 00:02:56.720 ⇒ 00:02:59.390 Mustafa Raja: And this was generated 17 hours ago.
31 00:02:59.390 ⇒ 00:03:05.250 Mustafa Raja: And then we can just regenerate this one, or the AI one. Which one would the team want?
32 00:03:06.680 ⇒ 00:03:07.200 Mustafa Raja: Unit.
33 00:03:07.200 ⇒ 00:03:09.049 Samuel Roberts: I don’t… yeah, I think just pick one, and let’s see.
34 00:03:09.050 ⇒ 00:03:10.479 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
35 00:03:12.860 ⇒ 00:03:18.089 Casie Aviles: Oh, and this, this also has, like, the linear history now, right?
36 00:03:18.540 ⇒ 00:03:21.319 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this, this is the updated one.
37 00:03:21.610 ⇒ 00:03:23.409 Casie Aviles: It has all the changes in linear… cool.
38 00:03:23.810 ⇒ 00:03:24.130 Mustafa Raja: Yay.
39 00:03:24.130 ⇒ 00:03:26.199 Samuel Roberts: How was that, how was that to work with, Casey?
40 00:03:26.860 ⇒ 00:03:32.100 Casie Aviles: Yeah, it’s mostly just, updating the GraphQL query that we already have.
41 00:03:32.100 ⇒ 00:03:36.869 Samuel Roberts: It worked… okay, good. I just wanted to make sure, because I was digging through their documentation, and I wasn’t sure how much was…
42 00:03:37.430 ⇒ 00:03:38.800 Samuel Roberts: Gonna come through.
43 00:03:39.360 ⇒ 00:03:39.990 Casie Aviles: Yeah.
44 00:03:39.990 ⇒ 00:03:40.510 Samuel Roberts: Good.
45 00:03:40.510 ⇒ 00:03:41.870 Mustafa Raja: Although…
46 00:03:42.090 ⇒ 00:03:51.379 Casie Aviles: Yeah, just a quick one. I set it for now to just the most recent 10 changes, because I think when I set it to Tech20, it didn’t work, so…
47 00:03:51.380 ⇒ 00:03:52.750 Samuel Roberts: Oh, okay.
48 00:03:52.750 ⇒ 00:03:55.240 Casie Aviles: The query was too complex, so… yeah.
49 00:03:55.240 ⇒ 00:03:56.909 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I saw some of that, okay.
50 00:03:57.980 ⇒ 00:03:58.630 Mustafa Raja: Yep.
51 00:03:58.740 ⇒ 00:04:01.009 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so here we have it.
52 00:04:02.380 ⇒ 00:04:03.230 Samuel Roberts: Cool, okay, so…
53 00:04:03.230 ⇒ 00:04:04.610 Mustafa Raja: the current version.
54 00:04:04.760 ⇒ 00:04:05.590 Samuel Roberts: I think…
55 00:04:06.230 ⇒ 00:04:13.489 Samuel Roberts: this definitely crosses off a few things, like, obviously the, like, the persistence is now here, right? So you can jump client to client as well.
56 00:04:14.840 ⇒ 00:04:20.700 Samuel Roberts: I think… Go back to ABC real quick. Does it show…
57 00:04:20.980 ⇒ 00:04:23.070 Samuel Roberts: What it pulled, like the other one?
58 00:04:26.210 ⇒ 00:04:27.589 Mustafa Raja: As in?
59 00:04:28.020 ⇒ 00:04:32.719 Samuel Roberts: Like, the other view, one thing I liked about it was that it showed it was referencing…
60 00:04:33.060 ⇒ 00:04:34.339 Samuel Roberts: you know, one Zoom meeting.
61 00:04:34.340 ⇒ 00:04:35.980 Mustafa Raja: A bunch of Slack messages.
62 00:04:35.980 ⇒ 00:04:37.619 Samuel Roberts: You might want to add that somewhere.
63 00:04:37.620 ⇒ 00:04:40.540 Mustafa Raja: I have that information, but I’m not displaying it.
64 00:04:40.540 ⇒ 00:04:46.920 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I like that just because it showed, like, in case something’s wrong, we’ll know if it’s missing a meeting or something.
65 00:04:46.920 ⇒ 00:04:51.990 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, I guess we can have something here displaying that.
66 00:04:52.400 ⇒ 00:04:53.390 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
67 00:04:54.400 ⇒ 00:04:58.349 Samuel Roberts: Maybe even at the last update, it would just be, like, you know, something…
68 00:04:58.350 ⇒ 00:04:59.390 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah…
69 00:04:59.390 ⇒ 00:05:00.420 Samuel Roberts: Something, like, next to here.
70 00:05:00.420 ⇒ 00:05:04.150 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, makes more sense.
71 00:05:05.120 ⇒ 00:05:10.180 Gabriel Lam: So, I’m sorry, this is a stupid question, can someone brief me on the Zoom?
72 00:05:10.370 ⇒ 00:05:11.739 Gabriel Lam: Like, what that means.
73 00:05:11.740 ⇒ 00:05:15.129 Samuel Roberts: Yes, so the platform, the Forge.
74 00:05:15.390 ⇒ 00:05:19.040 Gabriel Lam: All the Zoom meetings, like this one… Oh, I… Got it.
75 00:05:19.270 ⇒ 00:05:25.459 Samuel Roberts: You know, in there, and so right now they’re mostly organized by clients and by… Departments.
76 00:05:26.050 ⇒ 00:05:31.650 Samuel Roberts: But this is gonna look for, you know, an ABC-related meeting, pull in that transcript.
77 00:05:32.040 ⇒ 00:05:37.730 Samuel Roberts: in addition to Slack messages from the channel, and the… Lunar tickets and changes.
78 00:05:37.730 ⇒ 00:05:38.430 Gabriel Lam: I see.
79 00:05:39.430 ⇒ 00:05:50.019 Gabriel Lam: So, are we trying to link the actual meeting from, like, for example, the stand-up from last week, the Zoom video from last week, or is it more like we’re grabbing transcripts, or…
80 00:05:50.290 ⇒ 00:05:56.269 Samuel Roberts: This is when we’re grabbing the transcript, so it has the context of what was discussed, so that it should know… so that, you know, instead of…
81 00:05:56.590 ⇒ 00:06:00.180 Samuel Roberts: Because before, UTAM was kind of copying those transcripts.
82 00:06:00.370 ⇒ 00:06:04.169 Samuel Roberts: you know, using ChatGPT, and so this is trying to, like.
83 00:06:04.720 ⇒ 00:06:07.679 Samuel Roberts: Pull all this stuff together and feed it into an agent on its own.
84 00:06:07.680 ⇒ 00:06:08.210 Gabriel Lam: Yup.
85 00:06:08.210 ⇒ 00:06:12.250 Samuel Roberts: To get that. So, it should have the context from those meetings that way.
86 00:06:12.810 ⇒ 00:06:15.450 Samuel Roberts: I’m curious, like, how…
87 00:06:16.680 ⇒ 00:06:23.329 Samuel Roberts: Because now that we’ve been merging stand-ups a little bit, I’m curious about how that transcript stuff is going. But…
88 00:06:23.830 ⇒ 00:06:27.969 Samuel Roberts: That’s another… we’ll actually just keep working with it and seeing how it goes.
89 00:06:27.970 ⇒ 00:06:32.869 Gabriel Lam: Or maybe it needs to pick… I don’t know if there’s a way to, like, pick up on the phrase, like, moving on to, you know…
90 00:06:33.380 ⇒ 00:06:35.869 Samuel Roberts: So, I was, I was thinking about that,
91 00:06:37.600 ⇒ 00:06:41.140 Samuel Roberts: Casey Mustafa, I’m not sure which one of you know. So the transcripts that we get.
92 00:06:41.520 ⇒ 00:06:47.219 Samuel Roberts: Into the platform. Those… are we generating those, or is that something coming from Zoom?
93 00:06:49.360 ⇒ 00:06:52.579 Casie Aviles: Oh, so you mean the transcripts from Zoom,
94 00:06:53.960 ⇒ 00:07:00.330 Casie Aviles: We’re getting that from Supabase, which is being saved by our Zoom…
95 00:07:00.660 ⇒ 00:07:02.820 Casie Aviles: meeting pipeline, right? It’s getting.
96 00:07:02.820 ⇒ 00:07:03.599 Samuel Roberts: Right, right, I’m wondering…
97 00:07:03.600 ⇒ 00:07:04.320 Casie Aviles: base.
98 00:07:05.150 ⇒ 00:07:07.670 Samuel Roberts: I’m wondering about… so we have the video from Zoom.
99 00:07:08.440 ⇒ 00:07:12.899 Samuel Roberts: Is the transcript coming from that way as well and being saved, or are we generating that?
100 00:07:14.250 ⇒ 00:07:21.650 Casie Aviles: Yeah, it’s being saved. It’s, it’s not generated, it’s directly get, we’re getting it from the .vtt file.
101 00:07:21.650 ⇒ 00:07:24.090 Samuel Roberts: Right, so that’s coming from… so Zoom’s doing the transcript.
102 00:07:24.720 ⇒ 00:07:25.220 Casie Aviles: Yes, yes.
103 00:07:25.220 ⇒ 00:07:29.290 Samuel Roberts: So that’s what I mean, okay. Because I’m trying to figure out… I’m wondering if we want to try to put some other…
104 00:07:29.550 ⇒ 00:07:34.599 Samuel Roberts: yeah, some kind of breaks or something.
105 00:07:34.900 ⇒ 00:07:37.290 Samuel Roberts: maybe Think about that, that.
106 00:07:37.970 ⇒ 00:07:43.300 Casie Aviles: Yeah, that’s where I think the… another processing step
107 00:07:43.930 ⇒ 00:07:51.529 Casie Aviles: Yeah, that’s where… where we’ll… it’ll happen, where we kind of… I think that’s the Uta one… the code that Utam just shared, yeah.
108 00:07:52.500 ⇒ 00:07:57.180 Casie Aviles: That we use for preprocessing the transcripts to kind of cut down on tokens.
109 00:07:57.690 ⇒ 00:08:00.169 Samuel Roberts: Yes, no, that’s good, and I think… are we using that here?
110 00:08:01.640 ⇒ 00:08:05.170 Casie Aviles: Oh, yeah, it’s not being used here for now.
111 00:08:05.170 ⇒ 00:08:08.610 Samuel Roberts: Okay, that’s something to add, I think, that’ll save a little bit.
112 00:08:08.990 ⇒ 00:08:14.140 Samuel Roberts: No, I’m talking about if we’re doing… Stand-ups for multiple clients.
113 00:08:16.070 ⇒ 00:08:20.459 Samuel Roberts: than the… A full transcript isn’t really necessary.
114 00:08:23.870 ⇒ 00:08:24.680 Samuel Roberts: Right?
115 00:08:24.990 ⇒ 00:08:25.580 Mustafa Raja: Yep.
116 00:08:27.000 ⇒ 00:08:29.040 Samuel Roberts: I think for now, we probably just wanted to…
117 00:08:29.790 ⇒ 00:08:33.120 Samuel Roberts: pass it in, but I think at some point we might want to try breaking these meetings up into…
118 00:08:33.120 ⇒ 00:08:33.919 Mustafa Raja: Yay.
119 00:08:33.929 ⇒ 00:08:40.619 Samuel Roberts: chunks. Not chunks, but, like, markers… for… different topics.
120 00:08:40.849 ⇒ 00:08:49.589 Samuel Roberts: That might be a bigger… that’s probably a bigger discussion. I think for now, we just wanted to make sure that the transcript goes in, and it knows to only look for ABC stuff.
121 00:08:49.590 ⇒ 00:08:50.660 Mustafa Raja: Yep. Yep.
122 00:08:51.300 ⇒ 00:08:56.540 Gabriel Lam: I have another question here, which is, I mean, the…
123 00:08:56.770 ⇒ 00:09:01.779 Gabriel Lam: The stand-up we had just now had multiple, but are most stand-ups typically just client-related?
124 00:09:02.400 ⇒ 00:09:05.820 Gabriel Lam: Is it only really there’s, like, one… Meeting…
125 00:09:06.240 ⇒ 00:09:09.639 Gabriel Lam: Or one set of meetings where this is an issue, just out of curiosity.
126 00:09:10.110 ⇒ 00:09:12.469 Samuel Roberts: I don’t quite understand. You mean, like…
127 00:09:12.470 ⇒ 00:09:13.960 Gabriel Lam: As in, you know, we have…
128 00:09:14.460 ⇒ 00:09:19.439 Gabriel Lam: like, we’re talking about A, B, C, and default here, but for the other clients.
129 00:09:19.610 ⇒ 00:09:24.690 Gabriel Lam: Are they also running into the same issue where they’re talking about multiple projects per stand-up? Yeah, so…
130 00:09:24.690 ⇒ 00:09:32.789 Samuel Roberts: Previously, we had separate ones, and then we kind of reorganized in the last couple weeks to have kind of two big meetings.
131 00:09:32.790 ⇒ 00:09:33.429 Gabriel Lam: Got it.
132 00:09:33.430 ⇒ 00:09:34.840 Samuel Roberts: I don’t know, are you…
133 00:09:35.320 ⇒ 00:09:43.909 Samuel Roberts: So yeah, the first one is the AI default ABC, the second one is Ellie, Hype, Read Me, Eden, and Urban Stems.
134 00:09:43.910 ⇒ 00:09:44.330 Gabriel Lam: I see.
135 00:09:44.650 ⇒ 00:09:56.230 Samuel Roberts: So, that’s definitely something we’re kind of… we’ve been aware of the fact that, like, we might have to do something there, but for now, it’s, like, the data’s still getting saved to the platform, and you can still go back and catch the meeting. But…
136 00:09:56.610 ⇒ 00:10:01.639 Samuel Roberts: we might need to do a little bit more of that in the future, but I think for now, as long as the agent knows.
137 00:10:01.850 ⇒ 00:10:05.850 Samuel Roberts: Which client it should be looking for, hopefully that’s good enough.
138 00:10:06.080 ⇒ 00:10:07.349 Samuel Roberts: from the transcript.
139 00:10:08.360 ⇒ 00:10:08.740 Gabriel Lam: And then…
140 00:10:08.740 ⇒ 00:10:10.599 Samuel Roberts: So that’s definitely something else to think about. Sorry, go ahead.
141 00:10:10.700 ⇒ 00:10:17.149 Gabriel Lam: No, you’re good, you’re good. For weekly goals, where does this live? Does this live anywhere outside of…
142 00:10:17.150 ⇒ 00:10:28.770 Samuel Roberts: No, so that’s… that’s, like, a new kind of thing we’ve been doing. And so initially, Wouton was just starting the week and making, you know, 3 main goals for a team or client, you know.
143 00:10:29.280 ⇒ 00:10:33.550 Samuel Roberts: Or internal, or whatever. So a team, yeah, we’ll call it a team for now. But…
144 00:10:34.090 ⇒ 00:10:38.390 Samuel Roberts: those were just kind of living in Google Sheets, there wasn’t anything that that was tied to.
145 00:10:38.660 ⇒ 00:10:42.190 Samuel Roberts: And so, when we started working on this last week.
146 00:10:42.980 ⇒ 00:10:47.540 Samuel Roberts: We knew we would want to persist that, and so right now it’s just persisting in his browser.
147 00:10:49.070 ⇒ 00:10:55.649 Samuel Roberts: So… Yeah, this stuff is just saved to his local storage.
148 00:10:55.650 ⇒ 00:10:56.000 Gabriel Lam: Okay.
149 00:10:56.000 ⇒ 00:11:00.659 Samuel Roberts: and so the idea was that… the context…
150 00:11:01.490 ⇒ 00:11:07.899 Samuel Roberts: For this agent is gonna be… whatever’s here… In the weekly goals.
151 00:11:08.240 ⇒ 00:11:10.360 Samuel Roberts: And then the Zoom meeting transcripts.
152 00:11:10.460 ⇒ 00:11:19.209 Samuel Roberts: the linear tickets and the Slack. Eventually, we probably want to get to a point when these are all kind of tracked over time, but for now, we weren’t worried about
153 00:11:19.320 ⇒ 00:11:24.379 Samuel Roberts: persisting over time. It was just… it needed to persist so that he wasn’t… Repasting them in every time.
154 00:11:24.380 ⇒ 00:11:25.090 Gabriel Lam: Right.
155 00:11:25.090 ⇒ 00:11:33.809 Samuel Roberts: refreshing every time. But this is literally just this. That’s it. It’s here, it’s in his browser, you refresh the page, it’s still there, and that’s all it is.
156 00:11:34.790 ⇒ 00:11:35.480 Gabriel Lam: Okay.
157 00:11:37.160 ⇒ 00:11:41.020 Samuel Roberts: Again, this is a kind of a new system in general, so we’re kind of…
158 00:11:41.810 ⇒ 00:11:44.280 Samuel Roberts: Making it work that way, but,
159 00:11:44.490 ⇒ 00:11:48.670 Samuel Roberts: I… I think at some point we’re gonna wanna… we had talked about kind of a…
160 00:11:49.020 ⇒ 00:11:56.579 Samuel Roberts: you know, from a data modeling perspective, making, like, a sprint, and a sprint has multiple standups, and those stand-ups have all this information in them, right?
161 00:11:56.900 ⇒ 00:11:59.920 Samuel Roberts: But for now, for, you know, getting this done in a week.
162 00:12:00.200 ⇒ 00:12:05.129 Samuel Roberts: You know, two, it was just kind of, let’s get something up, see how useful it is, make sure it’s good.
163 00:12:05.750 ⇒ 00:12:08.929 Samuel Roberts: And then probably start persisting more of this information long-term.
164 00:12:09.160 ⇒ 00:12:10.030 Samuel Roberts: Over time.
165 00:12:11.380 ⇒ 00:12:12.040 Gabriel Lam: Okay.
166 00:12:12.250 ⇒ 00:12:19.690 Gabriel Lam: Then I guess, like, the final question would be, like, in terms of how much we can get out, like, what is… what are you guys thinking?
167 00:12:19.690 ⇒ 00:12:22.040 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I mean, I’m,
168 00:12:22.490 ⇒ 00:12:25.669 Samuel Roberts: I kinda wish he had been using this one for his review instead of the other one, but…
169 00:12:25.670 ⇒ 00:12:26.190 Gabriel Lam: Yeah.
170 00:12:26.590 ⇒ 00:12:29.220 Samuel Roberts: I think there’s a bunch of stuff here that is… is…
171 00:12:30.080 ⇒ 00:12:35.690 Samuel Roberts: better. But we still have, you know, we can… I think there’s probably some…
172 00:12:36.940 ⇒ 00:12:40.429 Samuel Roberts: Like, we talked about adding those views so we know when things are coming from where.
173 00:12:40.810 ⇒ 00:12:46.970 Samuel Roberts: I think we also probably want, maybe, to figure out A way to… mmm…
174 00:12:48.560 ⇒ 00:12:55.479 Samuel Roberts: I don’t know, I don’t want to do all… I don’t want to do all the talking. What else do you guys think, yeah, we could do here? Because I think there’s some room for improvement.
175 00:12:55.820 ⇒ 00:12:58.360 Samuel Roberts: Linking to things.
176 00:12:59.420 ⇒ 00:13:00.550 Samuel Roberts: Potentially.
177 00:13:03.880 ⇒ 00:13:10.180 Samuel Roberts: like, this is ABC, we don’t know if it’s even used… like, I have no indication here if it’s used Zoom at all.
178 00:13:11.800 ⇒ 00:13:12.620 Samuel Roberts: Right?
179 00:13:13.590 ⇒ 00:13:14.230 Mustafa Raja: Hmm.
180 00:13:14.680 ⇒ 00:13:17.170 Samuel Roberts: Because I don’t even see anything that’s, like, pointing to it.
181 00:13:17.560 ⇒ 00:13:19.539 Samuel Roberts: In the output, you know?
182 00:13:19.860 ⇒ 00:13:21.459 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I agree.
183 00:13:21.700 ⇒ 00:13:22.979 Samuel Roberts: So I’m curious…
184 00:13:23.050 ⇒ 00:13:24.070 Gabriel Lam: Go ahead.
185 00:13:25.170 ⇒ 00:13:31.290 Gabriel Lam: Are we thinking that all status updates would be inclusive of all different channels.
186 00:13:31.290 ⇒ 00:13:31.620 Samuel Roberts: Yes.
187 00:13:31.620 ⇒ 00:13:35.589 Gabriel Lam: Like, in the sense that Slack, Zoom, and Linear would all show up in status updates.
188 00:13:35.780 ⇒ 00:13:37.050 Samuel Roberts: I think so, yes.
189 00:13:37.050 ⇒ 00:13:37.690 Gabriel Lam: Okay.
190 00:13:37.870 ⇒ 00:13:40.690 Samuel Roberts: I think the idea is that you know.
191 00:13:40.920 ⇒ 00:13:51.699 Samuel Roberts: Previously to this, if you’re running the stand-up, you had to kind of wrangle all that information from the different sources to be prepared for the stand-up and know what to discuss, and we’re trying to just,
192 00:13:53.730 ⇒ 00:13:55.709 Samuel Roberts: Streamline that a little bit more. Yeah.
193 00:13:56.280 ⇒ 00:13:58.750 Samuel Roberts: And so I think all those sources are important.
194 00:13:58.880 ⇒ 00:14:06.589 Samuel Roberts: I’m just… yeah, I’m curious if Zoom is even… in that, since we’re not seeing it, I’m not sure, but maybe that’s a… maybe, I mean, this might just be bugs, we gotta figure out, but…
195 00:14:10.800 ⇒ 00:14:13.379 Gabriel Lam: Do you guys know if it’s showing, or is there anything else you.
196 00:14:13.380 ⇒ 00:14:14.660 Mustafa Raja: It’s a team to have a chance.
197 00:14:14.660 ⇒ 00:14:15.270 Gabriel Lam: true.
198 00:14:16.230 ⇒ 00:14:19.459 Mustafa Raja: It is accessing that because.
199 00:14:19.460 ⇒ 00:14:20.969 Samuel Roberts: Oh, Slack, there you go, okay, so there’s a Slack.
200 00:14:20.970 ⇒ 00:14:21.660 Mustafa Raja: one.
201 00:14:21.730 ⇒ 00:14:23.250 Samuel Roberts: That’s good.
202 00:14:23.320 ⇒ 00:14:27.679 Mustafa Raja: So it’s not only referencing the lien, it’s referencing other things.
203 00:14:27.880 ⇒ 00:14:29.519 Samuel Roberts: Okay, but it just didn’t have…
204 00:14:29.520 ⇒ 00:14:37.090 Mustafa Raja: Something that we… we might need to, adjust in prompt or something, because, I do see everything here.
205 00:14:37.380 ⇒ 00:14:41.990 Mustafa Raja: From Limia. And this is actually,
206 00:14:42.240 ⇒ 00:14:47.400 Mustafa Raja: This would better… this would better be named as follow-ups, rather than tickets for discussion.
207 00:14:47.500 ⇒ 00:14:52.290 Mustafa Raja: Since this would include not only linear, but Zoom and Slack also.
208 00:14:52.500 ⇒ 00:14:59.349 Mustafa Raja: So this is kind of, misleading. This title is misleading, I’ll update this as follow-ups.
209 00:14:59.680 ⇒ 00:15:07.140 Samuel Roberts: Okay, yeah, follow-ups is good, lockers is good, status updates is good. I think once we… go ahead.
210 00:15:07.330 ⇒ 00:15:09.630 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I just think that we,
211 00:15:09.790 ⇒ 00:15:15.049 Mustafa Raja: We… we aren’t properly taking, or we haven’t,
212 00:15:15.180 ⇒ 00:15:21.169 Mustafa Raja: ask the agent to properly, take in Zoom contacts and all.
213 00:15:21.170 ⇒ 00:15:21.620 Samuel Roberts: Yes.
214 00:15:21.620 ⇒ 00:15:29.840 Mustafa Raja: I think some… some, improvements in, system prompt might… might reflect in this output.
215 00:15:30.220 ⇒ 00:15:30.590 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
216 00:15:30.590 ⇒ 00:15:37.740 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I think… Might also have something to do with the density of, like, the linear tickets.
217 00:15:37.740 ⇒ 00:15:38.140 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
218 00:15:38.140 ⇒ 00:15:45.480 Casie Aviles: There’s, like, so much… I guess there’s a lot of data that dominates the context. I mean, linear dominates the context, so…
219 00:15:45.760 ⇒ 00:15:46.489 Samuel Roberts: That’s a really good point.
220 00:15:46.490 ⇒ 00:15:46.850 Mustafa Raja: playing with.
221 00:15:46.850 ⇒ 00:15:48.399 Samuel Roberts: Might want to avoid this.
222 00:15:48.720 ⇒ 00:15:49.279 Samuel Roberts: Okay, go ahead.
223 00:15:49.280 ⇒ 00:16:00.560 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I did also add in, like, a processing step there that cuts down on, like, the data that we get from linear, like a cleaning step.
224 00:16:00.560 ⇒ 00:16:04.010 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I did something similar with the Slack, I think, so I was forming.
225 00:16:04.010 ⇒ 00:16:04.720 Casie Aviles: Yeah.
226 00:16:04.720 ⇒ 00:16:08.009 Samuel Roberts: Like, a little bit cleaner, so maybe we need to.
227 00:16:08.010 ⇒ 00:16:08.500 Casie Aviles: Got it.
228 00:16:08.500 ⇒ 00:16:11.629 Samuel Roberts: a little more? Okay.
229 00:16:11.630 ⇒ 00:16:12.320 Gabriel Lam: would have meant…
230 00:16:12.320 ⇒ 00:16:14.080 Casie Aviles: Yesterday… oh, yesterday.
231 00:16:14.080 ⇒ 00:16:15.189 Gabriel Lam: No, no, no, no, go on.
232 00:16:15.540 ⇒ 00:16:21.660 Casie Aviles: Yeah, it’s just that yesterday there wasn’t any meetings that was going into the context yet, so… Right.
233 00:16:21.660 ⇒ 00:16:22.380 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, we need to test for it.
234 00:16:22.380 ⇒ 00:16:22.900 Casie Aviles: Oh, well.
235 00:16:22.900 ⇒ 00:16:27.029 Samuel Roberts: We do want to do something where it’s coming from Friday as well, right?
236 00:16:27.540 ⇒ 00:16:28.530 Casie Aviles: Yeah, okay.
237 00:16:28.530 ⇒ 00:16:30.029 Samuel Roberts: I think that’s the best way to do it.
238 00:16:30.500 ⇒ 00:16:36.240 Samuel Roberts: Excuse me. I think at some point, we might have a different, like, Monday You know, planning, kind of.
239 00:16:36.760 ⇒ 00:16:42.640 Samuel Roberts: tool, but for now, let’s just assume that we want to, Monday, see the meetings from Friday.
240 00:16:43.760 ⇒ 00:16:44.450 Gabriel Lam: Yep.
241 00:16:44.960 ⇒ 00:16:48.950 Gabriel Lam: my… Thought was, would it be…
242 00:16:49.920 ⇒ 00:16:52.739 Gabriel Lam: Easier if there was a way to…
243 00:16:53.960 ⇒ 00:17:02.449 Gabriel Lam: categorized by Slack, Linear, and Zoom separately, where maybe Linear won’t Dominate the context as much.
244 00:17:04.680 ⇒ 00:17:08.739 Gabriel Lam: Or would it be better to just have everything together? Does that make sense?
245 00:17:08.740 ⇒ 00:17:11.330 Samuel Roberts: That’s a good question. I mean, we could…
246 00:17:11.619 ⇒ 00:17:16.119 Samuel Roberts: change how this is doing it. I wouldn’t… I’m not opposed to that. I mean, maybe it is something that…
247 00:17:16.500 ⇒ 00:17:18.690 Samuel Roberts: Well, we want them to be… cause it…
248 00:17:19.200 ⇒ 00:17:24.689 Samuel Roberts: The only thing I have there is that there’s some things on linear that might be discussed on Slack, that might be discussed on the meeting, and we want that
249 00:17:25.079 ⇒ 00:17:28.600 Samuel Roberts: Okay. All together, but I still think there’s a way to…
250 00:17:28.850 ⇒ 00:17:31.620 Samuel Roberts: Probably reduce how big Linear is coming in.
251 00:17:31.620 ⇒ 00:17:32.310 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
252 00:17:32.630 ⇒ 00:17:36.420 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
253 00:17:37.340 ⇒ 00:17:41.380 Samuel Roberts: Let’s, let’s, let’s table that a little bit, maybe we can do, like, a parking session, but yeah.
254 00:17:41.380 ⇒ 00:17:44.859 Mustafa Raja: We also have a lot of friages here, that might be…
255 00:17:44.860 ⇒ 00:17:45.559 Casie Aviles: Why do you plan?
256 00:17:45.560 ⇒ 00:17:46.140 Samuel Roberts: then.
257 00:17:49.300 ⇒ 00:17:50.550 Mustafa Raja: That’s what you’re welcome.
258 00:17:50.550 ⇒ 00:17:51.220 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
259 00:17:58.550 ⇒ 00:17:59.660 Mustafa Raja: This is also dangerous.
260 00:18:00.560 ⇒ 00:18:02.209 Casie Aviles: Yeah, it’s mostly Lamina.
261 00:18:02.540 ⇒ 00:18:04.310 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, okay. Is there a way to…
262 00:18:04.740 ⇒ 00:18:07.400 Samuel Roberts: Oh, I guess we can test that later. Okay,
263 00:18:07.990 ⇒ 00:18:12.139 Samuel Roberts: Alright, so we can… we can work on… so let’s… let’s just make a list of things, I guess.
264 00:18:12.840 ⇒ 00:18:17.970 Samuel Roberts: So… we want… to make sure that Zoom
265 00:18:18.180 ⇒ 00:18:28.470 Samuel Roberts: We want to show what’s being called here, what’s being used, We need to…
266 00:18:30.840 ⇒ 00:18:35.530 Samuel Roberts: We need to… well, okay, it’s already persisting, so that’s good.
267 00:18:41.260 ⇒ 00:18:47.369 Samuel Roberts: Alright, my mind’s a little… And then we probably just need to tune a little bit more.
268 00:18:47.580 ⇒ 00:18:48.460 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
269 00:18:48.630 ⇒ 00:18:51.249 Samuel Roberts: What, what functionality are we… are we…
270 00:18:51.820 ⇒ 00:18:55.300 Samuel Roberts: not at yet. Like, I’m wondering… Let me, let me get…
271 00:18:56.600 ⇒ 00:19:00.890 Gabriel Lam: I think in terms of functionality, what I’m seeing is, like, the…
272 00:19:04.230 ⇒ 00:19:09.390 Gabriel Lam: maybe more so legibility of, like, the Zoom and Slack, I think, is… is missing.
273 00:19:09.530 ⇒ 00:19:10.050 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
274 00:19:11.520 ⇒ 00:19:13.700 Gabriel Lam: Yeah, I don’t think it has to, like, so much…
275 00:19:14.280 ⇒ 00:19:19.690 Gabriel Lam: I think, you know, even just allowing it to highlight specific calls from… or specific…
276 00:19:20.940 ⇒ 00:19:26.090 Gabriel Lam: Call-outs there might be a way around it, as opposed to trying to, you know…
277 00:19:28.140 ⇒ 00:19:29.800 Gabriel Lam: Sorry, my brain’s a little wonky.
278 00:19:29.800 ⇒ 00:19:44.509 Samuel Roberts: No, no, I think you’re right. I think that’s kind of what I was wondering about. I think we want… like, we’re linking out to the tickets, which is good, but I think we would love… it would be good to be able to know, okay, this came from a meeting, this came from a Slack, even if we can’t link directly to the Slack or the meeting.
279 00:19:44.670 ⇒ 00:19:46.720 Samuel Roberts: The meeting timestamp or something.
280 00:19:46.880 ⇒ 00:19:50.760 Samuel Roberts: Some way to do that where we know More is coming in.
281 00:19:51.430 ⇒ 00:19:53.220 Casie Aviles: Yeah, we can do that with the prompt.
282 00:19:53.460 ⇒ 00:20:00.170 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I would say let’s try to do that, I think…
283 00:20:01.140 ⇒ 00:20:06.039 Samuel Roberts: I think let’s do that, and then we’re gonna need a little bit more feedback, because I, I, you know…
284 00:20:06.460 ⇒ 00:20:07.810 Samuel Roberts: this seems…
285 00:20:08.050 ⇒ 00:20:13.110 Samuel Roberts: If it has all that stuff, like, right now it does look very linear heavy, but as long as it has everything.
286 00:20:13.950 ⇒ 00:20:19.169 Samuel Roberts: That seems better. Yeah, it does. Yeah, so let’s maybe let’s do a little bit of work on that today.
287 00:20:21.640 ⇒ 00:20:26.979 Samuel Roberts: I’m just wondering, like, what else needs to be done by Friday, you know what I mean? Like, what else would be good to get in here?
288 00:20:28.110 ⇒ 00:20:35.989 Gabriel Lam: I don’t know how long we want to, or at what point we want to do this, but I think the history thing might be interesting, where it’s like, hey, if I want to look up…
289 00:20:36.770 ⇒ 00:20:40.750 Gabriel Lam: you know, it’s Tuesday, but we want to look up last Friday’s,
290 00:20:40.750 ⇒ 00:20:42.959 Samuel Roberts: I had… yes, that… okay. This is…
291 00:20:43.260 ⇒ 00:20:49.730 Samuel Roberts: Last week, I was not about that, because I knew we had to get something out. This week, though, it’s only Tuesday, so maybe that is worth thinking about.
292 00:20:51.850 ⇒ 00:20:52.650 Samuel Roberts: I’m…
293 00:20:52.650 ⇒ 00:20:53.230 Mustafa Raja: Cool.
294 00:20:54.400 ⇒ 00:21:01.420 Samuel Roberts: And that would also give us an advantage where we could use previous Days…
295 00:21:02.200 ⇒ 00:21:12.200 Mustafa Raja: So by that, by that, do we mean, that we want to, we want, we want to look at the output generated yesterday or something?
296 00:21:13.400 ⇒ 00:21:15.969 Samuel Roberts: Perhaps. I think that would be a,
297 00:21:16.170 ⇒ 00:21:20.480 Samuel Roberts: Downstream effect of us starting to build in, like, a history for this.
298 00:21:21.910 ⇒ 00:21:22.560 Mustafa Raja: Hmm.
299 00:21:23.580 ⇒ 00:21:28.169 Gabriel Lam: I think for Friday, I don’t know. I mean, I’m still repping, I’m still trying to figure out how fast.
300 00:21:28.170 ⇒ 00:21:28.510 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, yeah.
301 00:21:28.510 ⇒ 00:21:36.760 Gabriel Lam: We can deploy, right? In my belief, I’m like, Friday might just make sense to get this out the door, and say, like, hey.
302 00:21:37.160 ⇒ 00:21:40.539 Gabriel Lam: A history might just be yesterdays, as opposed to, like.
303 00:21:40.700 ⇒ 00:21:42.960 Gabriel Lam: All of last week, or whatever it might be.
304 00:21:42.960 ⇒ 00:21:44.310 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I mean, he…
305 00:21:44.820 ⇒ 00:21:51.769 Gabriel Lam: Like, maybe Monday is the persisting thing where you’re able to have a longer planning, and you get to see that for the week and how you’re…
306 00:21:51.970 ⇒ 00:21:53.359 Gabriel Lam: Lining up for that.
307 00:21:53.820 ⇒ 00:21:54.810 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
308 00:21:56.480 ⇒ 00:21:58.910 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I’m trying… I mean, we could… so…
309 00:22:00.360 ⇒ 00:22:02.790 Samuel Roberts: We probably need to put a little more thought into the history.
310 00:22:02.790 ⇒ 00:22:03.550 Mustafa Raja: Yes.
311 00:22:03.550 ⇒ 00:22:04.160 Gabriel Lam: Yeah, I agree.
312 00:22:04.910 ⇒ 00:22:05.319 Samuel Roberts: But I think.
313 00:22:05.320 ⇒ 00:22:06.339 Mustafa Raja: This would be…
314 00:22:06.340 ⇒ 00:22:07.630 Samuel Roberts: worth doing.
315 00:22:08.240 ⇒ 00:22:16.040 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah. What we are doing right now is the output is generating based on whenever we refresh this data.
316 00:22:16.150 ⇒ 00:22:20.550 Gabriel Lam: So it’s… so it isn’t auto-generating, on time.
317 00:22:20.560 ⇒ 00:22:24.919 Mustafa Raja: So, at the single day, someone might press this button multiple times.
318 00:22:25.280 ⇒ 00:22:30.190 Samuel Roberts: Right, so we have to think that through, we have to think what’s being saved,
319 00:22:31.680 ⇒ 00:22:36.569 Samuel Roberts: Because this is, I mean, we could just probably save the text output, right? And then this… this is all just formatting?
320 00:22:38.000 ⇒ 00:22:38.980 Mustafa Raja: Yes. Yo.
321 00:22:41.030 ⇒ 00:22:46.870 Samuel Roberts: So if we just… if we just keep a record of those, maybe that’s enough to get started with that, and then we could cycle through days.
322 00:22:47.010 ⇒ 00:22:50.619 Samuel Roberts: It might be a little more than we need to do, I don’t know.
323 00:22:50.880 ⇒ 00:22:52.300 Gabriel Lam: Hi, I’m with you on that.
324 00:22:52.300 ⇒ 00:22:56.280 Samuel Roberts: I really want to make sure we got this in a good state.
325 00:22:56.570 ⇒ 00:22:57.150 Gabriel Lam: Yeah.
326 00:22:57.430 ⇒ 00:22:57.880 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I…
327 00:22:57.880 ⇒ 00:23:01.649 Gabriel Lam: I think that’s a… that’s, like, a quality of life thing that’s great for.
328 00:23:02.020 ⇒ 00:23:03.509 Gabriel Lam: Maybe a later time, but I think…
329 00:23:03.510 ⇒ 00:23:06.479 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, yeah, but definitely good to keep in mind.
330 00:23:06.810 ⇒ 00:23:10.950 Samuel Roberts: Because we don’t want to build this in a way that’s going to make that harder, either.
331 00:23:11.160 ⇒ 00:23:13.719 Samuel Roberts: Okay, so I would say let’s… go ahead.
332 00:23:14.390 ⇒ 00:23:19.180 Gabriel Lam: I just have one last thing. I… I… I wanna ask if… You guys think…
333 00:23:19.420 ⇒ 00:23:22.129 Gabriel Lam: We can do anything about the weekly goals.
334 00:23:22.270 ⇒ 00:23:24.229 Gabriel Lam: This week, or is that also…
335 00:23:24.800 ⇒ 00:23:25.510 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
336 00:23:25.840 ⇒ 00:23:26.789 Samuel Roberts: What about them?
337 00:23:27.260 ⇒ 00:23:27.850 Mustafa Raja: What do you want?
338 00:23:27.850 ⇒ 00:23:33.589 Gabriel Lam: In the sense that, like, is there a way to either link it back to Linear, or to, like, allow it to start a ticket?
339 00:23:33.820 ⇒ 00:23:38.530 Gabriel Lam: Or… I feel like when a weekly goal just sort of lives here, it’s like.
340 00:23:38.720 ⇒ 00:23:42.720 Gabriel Lam: Unless you keep going back to this, you’re able to see what the weekly goals are, or…
341 00:23:43.680 ⇒ 00:23:47.979 Gabriel Lam: For me, I’m kind of curious what it’s sitting… like, what that’s sitting there doing.
342 00:23:48.930 ⇒ 00:23:52.470 Samuel Roberts: I mean, it’s more just a guiding tool for the week, I think.
343 00:23:52.670 ⇒ 00:23:55.260 Gabriel Lam: So that’s gonna persist for the week?
344 00:23:55.900 ⇒ 00:24:00.240 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, that should pretty much be there for the week, and then it’s just part of the context so that it knows, like.
345 00:24:00.460 ⇒ 00:24:03.959 Samuel Roberts: This is what we’re focusing on, and then the idea is if we’re…
346 00:24:04.750 ⇒ 00:24:07.460 Samuel Roberts: Deviating or on track, it would know.
347 00:24:09.040 ⇒ 00:24:12.880 Samuel Roberts: This kind of was just a thing which I started last week, which was just, like.
348 00:24:13.090 ⇒ 00:24:15.840 Samuel Roberts: You know, sometimes we’re so in on the tickets, and…
349 00:24:15.970 ⇒ 00:24:21.669 Samuel Roberts: Trying to, like, move those along. We kind of lose track of, like, actually delivering something
350 00:24:22.140 ⇒ 00:24:24.749 Samuel Roberts: Like, tangible, meaningful for the client.
351 00:24:26.700 ⇒ 00:24:31.340 Samuel Roberts: And so he started last week just saying, like, if we got these 3 things done, what would be a good
352 00:24:31.590 ⇒ 00:24:34.000 Samuel Roberts: What would make a good… what 3 things would make a…
353 00:24:34.130 ⇒ 00:24:37.299 Samuel Roberts: Okay, good week for, like, the client.
354 00:24:39.220 ⇒ 00:24:52.419 Samuel Roberts: And so that, yeah, that living here, I mean, that could live somewhere else. I don’t really have a good idea of where that would be besides here, which is kind of why it was just here for now. He was just doing a Google Doc, just to keep it when he runs a meeting, it’s there. So if he’s running meetings this way.
355 00:24:53.020 ⇒ 00:24:54.759 Samuel Roberts: This is where they would live, I think?
356 00:24:55.050 ⇒ 00:24:55.940 Mustafa Raja: Let’s see.
357 00:24:56.400 ⇒ 00:25:04.399 Gabriel Lam: I think for now… yeah, no, actually, now that I’m thinking through this and hearing what you guys are saying, I think it makes sense, because if this is the…
358 00:25:04.900 ⇒ 00:25:10.299 Gabriel Lam: place where he gets all his information, then there isn’t a strong need for him to look elsewhere, because…
359 00:25:10.300 ⇒ 00:25:11.040 Samuel Roberts: Exactly.
360 00:25:11.680 ⇒ 00:25:13.870 Gabriel Lam: All he wants to do is just look at this one page for.
361 00:25:13.870 ⇒ 00:25:14.660 Samuel Roberts: Right.
362 00:25:14.660 ⇒ 00:25:15.020 Gabriel Lam: meeting.
363 00:25:15.020 ⇒ 00:25:23.249 Samuel Roberts: I think… I think at some point, keeping track of these on, like, a sprint object that’s tied to the client and everything on a weekly basis may make sense.
364 00:25:23.600 ⇒ 00:25:24.140 Gabriel Lam: Yeah.
365 00:25:24.140 ⇒ 00:25:27.909 Samuel Roberts: this is really the tool, so… The only other thing is…
366 00:25:29.570 ⇒ 00:25:31.850 Samuel Roberts: No, I guess that’s it. That’s all I got right now.
367 00:25:35.730 ⇒ 00:25:41.570 Samuel Roberts: I’m just trying to think, do we want any other inputs here for, like, actually running the stand-up? Or is that too much now?
368 00:25:44.140 ⇒ 00:25:46.709 Samuel Roberts: Because we’ll have the meeting transcript from the meeting.
369 00:25:48.600 ⇒ 00:25:52.700 Samuel Roberts: But I’m trying to think how that helps during the day. But maybe I’m overthinking it right now.
370 00:25:52.880 ⇒ 00:25:58.550 Samuel Roberts: I think let’s get the linear… er, sorry, the Zoom and Slack stuff, make sure that that’s, like, working well.
371 00:25:58.550 ⇒ 00:25:59.170 Mustafa Raja: Hmm.
372 00:25:59.520 ⇒ 00:26:02.959 Samuel Roberts: And then… I feel like we’re…
373 00:26:03.150 ⇒ 00:26:08.859 Samuel Roberts: I mean, I need more input, you know, from the user here after that, because his input.
374 00:26:08.860 ⇒ 00:26:09.280 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
375 00:26:09.280 ⇒ 00:26:11.850 Samuel Roberts: From the old one, so… That’s my thought.
376 00:26:11.850 ⇒ 00:26:12.910 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I agree.
377 00:26:13.070 ⇒ 00:26:14.070 Mustafa Raja: I agree.
378 00:26:14.600 ⇒ 00:26:16.350 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
379 00:26:19.240 ⇒ 00:26:28.609 Gabriel Lam: So for Friday, like, we can definitely have the Zoom and Slack out. We’re able to take the Friday info for Monday, so if we do refresh data, it’ll pull that instead.
380 00:26:28.980 ⇒ 00:26:30.089 Gabriel Lam: And…
381 00:26:30.090 ⇒ 00:26:30.790 Samuel Roberts: Yes.
382 00:26:30.790 ⇒ 00:26:39.739 Gabriel Lam: Put, like, maybe timestamps… Or… I guess maybe just timestamps on the status updates for Zoom and Slack.
383 00:26:40.030 ⇒ 00:26:40.400 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
384 00:26:40.400 ⇒ 00:26:42.359 Gabriel Lam: call it out from Zoom or from Slack.
385 00:26:42.680 ⇒ 00:26:43.200 Samuel Roberts: Right.
386 00:26:43.200 ⇒ 00:26:53.250 Gabriel Lam: Just for visibility, even though we probably know that’s where it comes from. It makes a little more sense to be like, oh, I know this is where it’s from, as opposed to, like, I don’t know.
387 00:26:53.360 ⇒ 00:26:55.050 Gabriel Lam: Where the status update.
388 00:26:55.050 ⇒ 00:27:02.220 Samuel Roberts: Right, and at some point, those could link out, but I think for now, just knowing, like, what the Slack message was, or where it was, or something.
389 00:27:02.520 ⇒ 00:27:10.650 Samuel Roberts: Something is good. Okay, so yeah, I think that sounds like a good list. I’m sure… I mean, I feel like more could happen, but I’m not sure what more should… like, I don’t want to…
390 00:27:10.980 ⇒ 00:27:13.480 Samuel Roberts: Leapfrog getting the client feedback first, you know?
391 00:27:13.720 ⇒ 00:27:14.910 Gabriel Lam: Yeah, agreed.
392 00:27:15.660 ⇒ 00:27:23.270 Gabriel Lam: I think maybe one last thing is, would it be helpful to link yesterday’s stand-up Zoom, or… Is that…
393 00:27:24.840 ⇒ 00:27:27.610 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, that’s part… I mean, that’s what they should be polling, that’s the Zoom stuff.
394 00:27:28.010 ⇒ 00:27:31.939 Gabriel Lam: But as in, like, to physically have the link to the video, or is that…
395 00:27:31.940 ⇒ 00:27:34.329 Samuel Roberts: Oh! Maybe, yeah. Yeah.
396 00:27:34.700 ⇒ 00:27:36.380 Casie Aviles: I think we should be able to pull it.
397 00:27:37.570 ⇒ 00:27:40.090 Samuel Roberts: Okay. From, Supabase.
398 00:27:41.980 ⇒ 00:27:43.170 Mustafa Raja: Okay, yeah, let’s, let’s…
399 00:27:43.170 ⇒ 00:27:45.120 Samuel Roberts: That’s not a bad idea, having that.
400 00:27:47.170 ⇒ 00:27:48.799 Samuel Roberts: Even if it just links to the meeting.
401 00:27:50.880 ⇒ 00:27:53.649 Samuel Roberts: As, like, a new tab or something would be fine for now.
402 00:27:54.100 ⇒ 00:27:54.890 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
403 00:27:55.510 ⇒ 00:27:56.130 Samuel Roberts: Right.
404 00:27:59.220 ⇒ 00:28:01.459 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, we can just display it based on the ID.
405 00:28:01.460 ⇒ 00:28:06.100 Gabriel Lam: Yeah, I think even if we… there’s just, like, a link to this video somewhere, and just say, like.
406 00:28:06.100 ⇒ 00:28:06.910 Samuel Roberts: It’s fine.
407 00:28:06.910 ⇒ 00:28:09.370 Gabriel Lam: you know, the Monday planning.
408 00:28:09.750 ⇒ 00:28:12.329 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think that makes total sense. That’s a good idea. Okay, cool.
409 00:28:14.000 ⇒ 00:28:17.499 Samuel Roberts: Alright, so that, I think, all sounds… what’s up, Casey?
410 00:28:18.420 ⇒ 00:28:24.279 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I think there’s also… Udom also has a list of, like, or like you mentioned, in the loom, right?
411 00:28:24.910 ⇒ 00:28:29.139 Casie Aviles: Are we also factoring those as well, the feedback that he gave there in the loom?
412 00:28:29.530 ⇒ 00:28:33.840 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I mean, I think some of it is… is…
413 00:28:35.290 ⇒ 00:28:38.480 Samuel Roberts: here already, right? I’m trying to remember what else was in there.
414 00:28:38.840 ⇒ 00:28:41.999 Samuel Roberts: But that’s definitely maybe… has everyone watched that one?
415 00:28:42.730 ⇒ 00:28:43.310 Mustafa Raja: somewhere.
416 00:28:43.310 ⇒ 00:28:48.670 Gabriel Lam: pretty low-hanging, like, I think Mustafa already very easily did the…
417 00:28:48.670 ⇒ 00:28:49.560 Samuel Roberts: That’s… yeah.
418 00:28:49.560 ⇒ 00:28:49.940 Gabriel Lam: you know.
419 00:28:49.940 ⇒ 00:28:52.789 Samuel Roberts: I’m not sure if there was anything else that we missed.
420 00:28:53.370 ⇒ 00:28:58.579 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, just let us know if you missed anything, if you think we missed anything.
421 00:28:59.530 ⇒ 00:29:03.070 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, no, I was just asking. No, you’re definitely okay.
422 00:29:04.060 ⇒ 00:29:04.490 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
423 00:29:04.490 ⇒ 00:29:06.549 Casie Aviles: I haven’t checked, like, the entire loom yet.
424 00:29:06.550 ⇒ 00:29:07.360 Mustafa Raja: Jessica?
425 00:29:07.360 ⇒ 00:29:12.440 Casie Aviles: Generating, like, a summary of, like, stuff that we need to fix.
426 00:29:12.440 ⇒ 00:29:15.380 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I would say… let’s… okay, so…
427 00:29:15.690 ⇒ 00:29:22.569 Samuel Roberts: we have a list. At least that was articulated, I don’t know if it was written down right now, but
428 00:29:23.140 ⇒ 00:29:27.050 Samuel Roberts: Then let’s also… I’ll walk through that.
429 00:29:28.150 ⇒ 00:29:33.330 Casie Aviles: I’m going to just paste it in… The fig drum, I guess.
430 00:29:34.150 ⇒ 00:29:34.780 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
431 00:29:34.780 ⇒ 00:29:36.719 Casie Aviles: Just want to have it here.
432 00:29:36.950 ⇒ 00:29:40.990 Samuel Roberts: Okay, what?
433 00:29:42.290 ⇒ 00:29:47.969 Samuel Roberts: Okay, cool, perfect, that’s… that’s good. Okay, so… oh, the clients, yes, we need to remove inactive clients, that should be pretty easy.
434 00:29:47.970 ⇒ 00:29:49.340 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah.
435 00:29:49.340 ⇒ 00:29:53.800 Samuel Roberts: That should be… that’s just a flag that’s already there in the database.
436 00:29:54.710 ⇒ 00:29:56.300 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’ll do that.
437 00:29:57.590 ⇒ 00:30:03.810 Gabriel Lam: I think something he brought up was, like, when referencing…
438 00:30:04.940 ⇒ 00:30:11.349 Gabriel Lam: Zoom, Slack, we’re linear… well, he used the word previews, which I’m a little curious. I think for linear.
439 00:30:11.860 ⇒ 00:30:15.549 Gabriel Lam: And Slack is a little more simple, where it’s like, you can just…
440 00:30:16.170 ⇒ 00:30:21.719 Gabriel Lam: Like, Linear literally calls out, or you can, like, literally have a link. Let me see where it is.
441 00:30:21.720 ⇒ 00:30:22.470 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
442 00:30:24.150 ⇒ 00:30:27.410 Casie Aviles: Also, we can cross out anything… Number 9?
443 00:30:28.120 ⇒ 00:30:28.739 Samuel Roberts: I agree.
444 00:30:29.060 ⇒ 00:30:30.999 Gabriel Lam: Oh yeah, we can just cross out what’s done already.
445 00:30:31.000 ⇒ 00:30:32.290 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, so that one’s good.
446 00:30:33.270 ⇒ 00:30:34.410 Gabriel Lam: That’s also good.
447 00:30:34.410 ⇒ 00:30:36.870 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, that was just because it was a placeholder.
448 00:30:40.080 ⇒ 00:30:44.350 Samuel Roberts: So we gotta do the clients, that’s good, the persistence, and it’s good.
449 00:30:44.350 ⇒ 00:30:46.980 Gabriel Lam: I think Persyst is pretty good.
450 00:30:46.980 ⇒ 00:30:50.889 Samuel Roberts: Clarify when and how summaries are generated and updated. We have the timestamp there, too.
451 00:30:50.890 ⇒ 00:30:51.560 Mustafa Raja: Excellent.
452 00:30:56.260 ⇒ 00:30:58.370 Samuel Roberts: Project-specific details.
453 00:30:58.580 ⇒ 00:31:04.149 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, he did say it would be nice to know more about the client, but I don’t know where else we have that information to, like, pass in.
454 00:31:05.040 ⇒ 00:31:08.810 Gabriel Lam: Is there, like, a… Maybe, like, a summary of…
455 00:31:09.210 ⇒ 00:31:10.810 Mustafa Raja: Client call.
456 00:31:10.810 ⇒ 00:31:12.210 Gabriel Lam: as another section.
457 00:31:12.600 ⇒ 00:31:19.350 Gabriel Lam: Either, like, above weekly call… yeah, like, maybe just literally have a place for that summary to show up for…
458 00:31:19.980 ⇒ 00:31:22.660 Gabriel Lam: Every major client meeting, or…
459 00:31:25.260 ⇒ 00:31:28.029 Samuel Roberts: I’m not sure I follow. So you’re saying, like, a.
460 00:31:30.180 ⇒ 00:31:34.490 Gabriel Lam: like a summary of recent standups, maybe above or below weekly goals.
461 00:31:35.430 ⇒ 00:31:36.120 Samuel Roberts: Oh.
462 00:31:36.120 ⇒ 00:31:43.929 Gabriel Lam: just be, like, you take each summary from… each video, and… Or is that too much?
463 00:31:45.670 ⇒ 00:31:47.250 Samuel Roberts: I mean, I suppose that would work.
464 00:31:49.530 ⇒ 00:31:56.640 Gabriel Lam: Personally, I don’t know if we need that. I feel like having weekly goals, or, like, the weekly goals themselves should be kind of obvious.
465 00:31:56.970 ⇒ 00:31:58.459 Samuel Roberts: I think so, too.
466 00:31:59.200 ⇒ 00:32:08.920 Samuel Roberts: And that’s definitely something we can… we can add later. But let’s… I don’t wanna, like, build too many extra sources of things that we’re not sure are gonna be helpful, so…
467 00:32:12.080 ⇒ 00:32:13.470 Mustafa Raja: I wonder if you think about this?
468 00:32:13.470 ⇒ 00:32:17.529 Samuel Roberts: I think the inconsistencies you mentioned, you know, there’s something… there’s some stuff to fix.
469 00:32:19.690 ⇒ 00:32:22.770 Samuel Roberts: And then, yeah, the spacing, we’re talking about, adding some more stuff anyway.
470 00:32:23.120 ⇒ 00:32:26.750 Samuel Roberts: Hide redundant source mentions linear tags, every… yeah, okay.
471 00:32:28.110 ⇒ 00:32:33.249 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, one was discussed, I’m just like, yeah, no information available, sort of filler text, that’s good.
472 00:32:35.570 ⇒ 00:32:42.199 Samuel Roberts: Yeah… I think blockers and follows rather than routine updates, sure.
473 00:32:42.330 ⇒ 00:32:43.889 Mustafa Raja: That we have at the top.
474 00:32:44.930 ⇒ 00:32:45.800 Samuel Roberts: Hmm.
475 00:32:47.420 ⇒ 00:32:53.630 Samuel Roberts: And then… yeah, makes… yeah, we gotta make the references clearer and interactable. Yeah, that’s probably a good idea.
476 00:32:53.910 ⇒ 00:33:01.040 Samuel Roberts: Even if it’s just, like, a hover and it shows, like, what the Zoom message was, or something, or click, and yeah, I think we can… we can work… that’s probably the biggest thing to figure out.
477 00:33:01.560 ⇒ 00:33:02.570 Samuel Roberts: Hmm.
478 00:33:03.750 ⇒ 00:33:09.339 Samuel Roberts: Make sure that that’s good. And then I think, yeah, then probably just a little bit of, like, prompt tuning as it… as we use it.
479 00:33:09.880 ⇒ 00:33:10.550 Gabriel Lam: Okay.
480 00:33:12.120 ⇒ 00:33:19.399 Gabriel Lam: So in terms of, like, it seems like the interactive references might be taking the longest time? Is that… would that be accurate?
481 00:33:21.510 ⇒ 00:33:22.689 Samuel Roberts: Out of all this stuff, I would.
482 00:33:22.690 ⇒ 00:33:23.030 Gabriel Lam: Yes.
483 00:33:23.030 ⇒ 00:33:23.740 Samuel Roberts: So, yeah.
484 00:33:23.740 ⇒ 00:33:24.350 Gabriel Lam: Okay.
485 00:33:25.880 ⇒ 00:33:26.969 Samuel Roberts: Do you guys agree with that?
486 00:33:27.570 ⇒ 00:33:29.479 Mustafa Raja: That’s been in a little more than me.
487 00:33:30.720 ⇒ 00:33:33.839 Gabriel Lam: Yeah. I feel like… If it’s clickable.
488 00:33:33.840 ⇒ 00:33:37.759 Mustafa Raja: linear one, we knew one, or we already have, but for some women’s Land.
489 00:33:37.760 ⇒ 00:33:44.480 Gabriel Lam: I think for Zoom, if it’s clickable, it could just be, like, a timestamped link to the video, where it’s…
490 00:33:44.480 ⇒ 00:33:48.839 Samuel Roberts: That’s what I was just gonna say, I think… I don’t know if we have a good way to link to timestamps,
491 00:33:48.840 ⇒ 00:33:49.610 Gabriel Lam: I see.
492 00:33:50.140 ⇒ 00:33:57.250 Samuel Roberts: I made something where that… that does… you can click it down there, but I want to add it to the… I was just gonna say, that would mean adding it to the URL, which I think is worth… worth trying.
493 00:33:57.350 ⇒ 00:33:57.870 Gabriel Lam: Hmm.
494 00:33:57.870 ⇒ 00:34:01.509 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, if you add this to URL, this is the… Okay.
495 00:34:01.510 ⇒ 00:34:06.840 Samuel Roberts: I don’t know, let’s… let’s make that a thing to do as well, then, for this.
496 00:34:07.010 ⇒ 00:34:07.710 Samuel Roberts: And then slide.
497 00:34:07.710 ⇒ 00:34:08.670 Mustafa Raja: I should be able to dig a.
498 00:34:08.679 ⇒ 00:34:09.609 Samuel Roberts: Right to the message.
499 00:34:10.139 ⇒ 00:34:10.949 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
500 00:34:12.659 ⇒ 00:34:16.519 Samuel Roberts: So yeah, I would just say add…
501 00:34:16.809 ⇒ 00:34:19.529 Samuel Roberts: Add the entry there for now, if you can.
502 00:34:20.989 ⇒ 00:34:22.079 Samuel Roberts: on this list.
503 00:34:24.979 ⇒ 00:34:27.239 Samuel Roberts: Or, like, under 9, just make… yeah, perfect.
504 00:34:28.070 ⇒ 00:34:29.030 Mustafa Raja: And then let’s…
505 00:34:29.030 ⇒ 00:34:30.870 Samuel Roberts: turn this into some tickets, I guess.
506 00:34:31.210 ⇒ 00:34:34.299 Gabriel Lam: Yeah, I can go ahead and do that. Perfect.
507 00:34:36.960 ⇒ 00:34:37.600 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
508 00:34:37.810 ⇒ 00:34:41.150 Gabriel Lam: I think Rico sent some tickets out, so I can try to either…
509 00:34:42.280 ⇒ 00:34:44.800 Gabriel Lam: Like, slot them in or add new ones.
510 00:34:44.800 ⇒ 00:34:45.880 Samuel Roberts: Yeah…
511 00:34:45.889 ⇒ 00:34:49.229 Gabriel Lam: And then I can also just write out, like, what we… what I think we can…
512 00:34:50.359 ⇒ 00:34:52.049 Gabriel Lam: we can deliver by Friday.
513 00:34:52.250 ⇒ 00:34:52.960 Samuel Roberts: Perfect.
514 00:34:59.720 ⇒ 00:35:00.290 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
515 00:35:02.920 ⇒ 00:35:03.640 Samuel Roberts: Cool.
516 00:35:04.290 ⇒ 00:35:08.699 Samuel Roberts: Do you… I don’t know what the rest of their,
517 00:35:08.800 ⇒ 00:35:14.090 Samuel Roberts: days look like Casey Mustafa, but if you guys want to, like, hair on any of this,
518 00:35:15.520 ⇒ 00:35:16.710 Mustafa Raja: I’m pretty open.
519 00:35:16.710 ⇒ 00:35:24.350 Samuel Roberts: Okay, I’m thinking I might try to do that link to… A part of the… meeting.
520 00:35:25.020 ⇒ 00:35:26.150 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah, Zoom one.
521 00:35:26.590 ⇒ 00:35:31.679 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I’ll try to take care of that, just so I can get that up, and then we can try to figure out how to, like, get the right thing into the…
522 00:35:32.650 ⇒ 00:35:33.460 Mustafa Raja: a link.
523 00:35:34.730 ⇒ 00:35:35.100 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
524 00:35:36.000 ⇒ 00:35:40.979 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, we’ll just need time stamps, in the context, and that should be good.
525 00:35:41.160 ⇒ 00:35:46.279 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, exactly, and then we can link out to the right one. But I’ll try to get it so the URL can handle that.
526 00:35:47.030 ⇒ 00:35:48.409 Samuel Roberts: The other thing we might want to do…
527 00:35:48.410 ⇒ 00:35:49.070 Mustafa Raja: today.
528 00:35:49.310 ⇒ 00:35:49.920 Samuel Roberts: Sorry?
529 00:35:50.530 ⇒ 00:35:57.239 Mustafa Raja: I’m pretty open for the day, I just have one other ticket for a client, and then this is the internal.
530 00:35:57.550 ⇒ 00:35:58.050 Mustafa Raja: Stuff.
531 00:35:58.050 ⇒ 00:36:00.280 Samuel Roberts: Cool, okay, then yeah, maybe, in…
532 00:36:00.790 ⇒ 00:36:08.750 Samuel Roberts: A bit. I don’t know what else. I think I’m pretty open today, meeting-wise, which is nice, so I can actually get some stuff done. So yeah, I’ll ping you then.
533 00:36:08.750 ⇒ 00:36:12.870 Mustafa Raja: The other thing I wanted to add, actually, since we’re talking URLs, can you jump back over to it?
534 00:36:14.950 ⇒ 00:36:17.890 Samuel Roberts: I think… no, no, the,
535 00:36:19.370 ⇒ 00:36:24.990 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, we might want to have, like, a query parameter for the actual client, so you could, like, load that page.
536 00:36:26.840 ⇒ 00:36:30.319 Samuel Roberts: Like, this would be, like, you know, question mark client equals AI.
537 00:36:31.210 ⇒ 00:36:34.179 Samuel Roberts: And every time you change the drop-down, that way we could link.
538 00:36:34.180 ⇒ 00:36:35.000 Mustafa Raja: I don’t know.
539 00:36:35.000 ⇒ 00:36:37.420 Samuel Roberts: If you want to share a link to a stand-up or something.
540 00:36:38.100 ⇒ 00:36:39.329 Casie Aviles: I see, yeah.
541 00:36:39.330 ⇒ 00:36:40.500 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
542 00:36:40.500 ⇒ 00:36:45.160 Samuel Roberts: I just like the idea of it being tracked, so, like, even if you go back, it goes to the previous client or something.
543 00:36:45.750 ⇒ 00:36:46.489 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
544 00:36:46.490 ⇒ 00:36:49.899 Samuel Roberts: But that would just be another ticket to add then, which is pretty… I think.
545 00:36:50.470 ⇒ 00:36:51.240 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
546 00:36:53.200 ⇒ 00:36:56.510 Mustafa Raja: Cool. Alright, so… we shouldn’t be good.
547 00:36:56.510 ⇒ 00:36:58.379 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, okay, so Gabe, you’re gonna take care of that?
548 00:36:58.380 ⇒ 00:36:59.480 Gabriel Lam: I’ll take care of that, yeah.
549 00:36:59.650 ⇒ 00:37:05.170 Samuel Roberts: And then, I will reach out later to do maybe some pairing on some of this, because I think there’s… we can really…
550 00:37:05.280 ⇒ 00:37:11.760 Samuel Roberts: Get some of this out, and then hopefully later today, we can get it in, or whenever UTM has time to actually look at it.
551 00:37:11.950 ⇒ 00:37:16.379 Gabriel Lam: Yeah. Get another… get some more feedback, because I think… Or he can do it async as well, it’s just like.
552 00:37:16.380 ⇒ 00:37:35.629 Samuel Roberts: That’s what I mean, like, as long as we get it to him probably, you know, before… or by the end of the day, like, we can get some more feedback for tomorrow. Yeah. That’s the thing, like, I feel like there’s plenty of little things we’re gonna have to find from him, but the big stuff, I feel like we’re kind of getting there. But I know there’s gonna be lots of, like, I’m not the one using it, so I don’t necessarily know exactly what he’s… I have a sense of it, but I want…
553 00:37:35.820 ⇒ 00:37:39.160 Samuel Roberts: Him to be the one to, like, really show the… .
554 00:37:39.160 ⇒ 00:37:39.620 Gabriel Lam: Yeah.
555 00:37:39.620 ⇒ 00:37:44.240 Samuel Roberts: oh, this is bad, I don’t like this little thing here. Like, I don’t have a great sense of that until we see him use it, so…
556 00:37:44.240 ⇒ 00:37:44.900 Gabriel Lam: Yeah.
557 00:37:45.430 ⇒ 00:37:49.950 Samuel Roberts: But I mean, Gabe, this is also probably something you’ll be using at some point, so definitely, like, keep that in mind, too.
558 00:37:50.200 ⇒ 00:37:50.900 Gabriel Lam: For sure.
559 00:37:50.900 ⇒ 00:37:53.339 Samuel Roberts: So you don’t have… you don’t have the, like, previous, like…
560 00:37:53.820 ⇒ 00:37:57.120 Samuel Roberts: how things were going. Utam’s the one that…
561 00:37:57.120 ⇒ 00:37:58.660 Gabriel Lam: pasting everything into ChatGPT.
562 00:37:58.660 ⇒ 00:38:05.420 Samuel Roberts: Definitely keep that in mind of, like, if you’re… Gonna…
563 00:38:06.520 ⇒ 00:38:12.120 Samuel Roberts: Any of your input is also client input, is what I’m gonna say. For sure. Yeah, totally. Okay, cool. Alright, sounds good, guys.
564 00:38:12.680 ⇒ 00:38:13.420 Samuel Roberts: Thanks, guys.
565 00:38:14.740 ⇒ 00:38:15.740 Gabriel Lam: I think we’re good.
566 00:38:15.740 ⇒ 00:38:16.219 Samuel Roberts: Cool, alright.
567 00:38:16.220 ⇒ 00:38:18.189 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this… this is cool. Thank you.
568 00:38:18.190 ⇒ 00:38:21.140 Samuel Roberts: Sounds good. And Gabe, do you have this Figma?
569 00:38:21.140 ⇒ 00:38:22.269 Gabriel Lam: I do, yeah.
570 00:38:22.270 ⇒ 00:38:23.810 Samuel Roberts: Perfect. Okay, cool. Alright.
571 00:38:24.100 ⇒ 00:38:24.920 Mustafa Raja: See you guys on Slack.
572 00:38:24.920 ⇒ 00:38:25.770 Gabriel Lam: Alright, see you guys.
573 00:38:25.770 ⇒ 00:38:26.810 Samuel Roberts: Alright, bye.
574 00:38:26.810 ⇒ 00:38:27.369 Casie Aviles: But… Thank you.