Meeting Title: Brainforge x Lilo: Jan Planning Date: 2026-01-05 Meeting participants: Bobby Palmieri, Pranav, Uttam Kumaran, zacfromson, Samuel Roberts
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1 00:00:34.440 ⇒ 00:00:36.360 Pranav: Hey, hey, how’s it going?
2 00:00:36.640 ⇒ 00:00:38.650 Bobby Palmieri: Give me one quick second.
3 00:00:38.820 ⇒ 00:00:39.380 Pranav: Yeah.
4 00:01:03.060 ⇒ 00:01:03.789 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, dude.
5 00:01:05.110 ⇒ 00:01:06.629 Pranav: Hello, how’s it going?
6 00:01:06.630 ⇒ 00:01:07.530 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, good.
7 00:01:08.140 ⇒ 00:01:09.740 Pranav: Bobby said he’d be right back.
8 00:01:09.740 ⇒ 00:01:10.320 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
9 00:01:15.370 ⇒ 00:01:16.879 zacfromson: Hey guys, how’s it going?
10 00:01:16.880 ⇒ 00:01:17.759 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, good.
11 00:01:17.760 ⇒ 00:01:18.440 Pranav: Exactly.
12 00:01:21.000 ⇒ 00:01:23.180 zacfromson: How’s your guys’ New Year?
13 00:01:24.080 ⇒ 00:01:26.709 Uttam Kumaran: I tried not to work that much.
14 00:01:27.130 ⇒ 00:01:28.970 Uttam Kumaran: Pretty chill. How about you guys?
15 00:01:30.170 ⇒ 00:01:32.009 zacfromson: Yeah, it was, yeah.
16 00:01:32.150 ⇒ 00:01:38.840 zacfromson: Probably same, same here. It was quieter than normal, so it’s like, it’s like time off, right?
17 00:01:38.840 ⇒ 00:01:44.930 Uttam Kumaran: We had, like, a… we had, like, a big company sprint, like, right before, so a lot of people were off, which is good, but…
18 00:01:45.170 ⇒ 00:01:50.449 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, it should be a good year. I’m excited. I feel like, things have been growing a lot, so…
19 00:01:50.450 ⇒ 00:01:50.820 Bobby Palmieri: Oh, yeah.
20 00:01:50.820 ⇒ 00:01:54.220 Uttam Kumaran: like, trying to continue to build, and the AI stuff is helping us move
21 00:01:54.450 ⇒ 00:01:59.140 Uttam Kumaran: you know, a lot faster and do more types of stuff, so I’m… I’m excited.
22 00:02:02.120 ⇒ 00:02:05.479 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. Pranam, you wanna see if Sam’s gonna join?
23 00:02:05.810 ⇒ 00:02:07.120 Pranav: Yeah, let me ping him.
24 00:02:08.850 ⇒ 00:02:10.149 Bobby Palmieri: Vernav, where are you based?
25 00:02:11.060 ⇒ 00:02:14.049 Pranav: So, actually, I just got to Austin.
26 00:02:14.050 ⇒ 00:02:14.600 Bobby Palmieri: Thanks.
27 00:02:14.600 ⇒ 00:02:18.990 Pranav: Yesterday. But before this, I was in Massachusetts.
28 00:02:18.990 ⇒ 00:02:19.940 Bobby Palmieri: What part?
29 00:02:20.220 ⇒ 00:02:21.970 Pranav: Worcester? Okay.
30 00:02:21.970 ⇒ 00:02:26.080 Bobby Palmieri: I grew up in… I grew up in Wakefield, which is, like, just north of Boston.
31 00:02:26.080 ⇒ 00:02:30.110 Pranav: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, Sam, actually, he’s, he’s from North.
32 00:02:30.110 ⇒ 00:02:31.010 Bobby Palmieri: Yeah.
33 00:02:31.280 ⇒ 00:02:36.070 Pranav: I forget exactly where he’s from, but I think we’ve already ran through that. Oh, yeah? Okay.
34 00:02:46.030 ⇒ 00:02:50.219 Bobby Palmieri: I may need to pop in and out of… of this, I’m in a…
35 00:02:50.500 ⇒ 00:02:53.860 Bobby Palmieri: war with, health insurance right now, and…
36 00:02:53.860 ⇒ 00:02:54.220 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
37 00:02:54.220 ⇒ 00:03:08.339 Bobby Palmieri: For whatever reason, my wife is not authorized to do certain things, so they need me to hop on the phone and just say yes. You know what I’m doing.
38 00:03:08.340 ⇒ 00:03:08.970 Uttam Kumaran: Cool.
39 00:03:10.620 ⇒ 00:03:25.610 Uttam Kumaran: There’s not a bad voice translator to sound like you. It’s the worst authentication process. They’re like, you’re not authorized to do this, and then some man’s voice just says, yes, she can, and they say, okay. Right.
40 00:03:25.610 ⇒ 00:03:28.530 Bobby Palmieri: my, like, I renewed my insurance plan
41 00:03:29.340 ⇒ 00:03:38.379 Bobby Palmieri: like, at the beginning of November, and then my son was born at the end of November, and I added him to the plan, like, the day he was born.
42 00:03:38.990 ⇒ 00:03:48.529 Bobby Palmieri: But since I renewed my plan in 2026, or for 2026 before, he’s now not on insurance. So…
43 00:03:48.840 ⇒ 00:03:51.139 Bobby Palmieri: And they’re like, well, we could…
44 00:03:51.520 ⇒ 00:03:57.150 Bobby Palmieri: sign up a new newborn, I’m like, no, no, no, he’s already in the system. I don’t have another child to add, so…
45 00:03:57.150 ⇒ 00:03:58.470 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
46 00:03:59.330 ⇒ 00:04:00.250 Uttam Kumaran: Nice.
47 00:04:01.260 ⇒ 00:04:05.469 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, we’re, like, figuring out health insurance for the company, like, this quarter.
48 00:04:05.730 ⇒ 00:04:09.269 Uttam Kumaran: And, like, I don’t know, just pay somebody to figure it out. Like.
49 00:04:09.280 ⇒ 00:04:12.830 Bobby Palmieri: We, we have it, we have the solution.
50 00:04:12.830 ⇒ 00:04:16.390 Uttam Kumaran: of a good guy, or a good place, or person, I’d love to have him.
51 00:04:16.399 ⇒ 00:04:23.179 zacfromson: We use, this company called… we… so we used to… is everyone in Austin that works for you, or are you guys distributed across the U.S?
52 00:04:23.180 ⇒ 00:04:24.160 Uttam Kumaran: distributed, yeah.
53 00:04:24.160 ⇒ 00:04:29.620 zacfromson: Yeah, we use a… we have set up on an ICRA. Okay. It’s a company called Take Command.
54 00:04:29.750 ⇒ 00:04:31.420 zacfromson: They’re, like, administers.
55 00:04:31.440 ⇒ 00:04:46.799 zacfromson: the whole plan. The problem was, like, it also could be a little bit different, but, like, we were trying to write a policy… we were writing a policy out of Brooklyn, New York, which is, like, just about the most expensive place possible to write it, and we also needed a plan that also, like, worked
56 00:04:46.800 ⇒ 00:04:57.900 zacfromson: nationally, so, like, sometimes, like, their providers in New York would only cover, like, tri-state, so it was, like, more expensive on top of that, so this allows people to, like, basically go through the state portal. So if, like, you’re in.
57 00:04:57.900 ⇒ 00:04:58.590 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay.
58 00:04:58.590 ⇒ 00:05:08.410 zacfromson: Texas, you can set a reimbursement amount for everybody, based on, like, the quality plan you want to give them. They pay for it themselves, and then you reimburse them every month through payroll.
59 00:05:08.410 ⇒ 00:05:09.450 Uttam Kumaran: Great.
60 00:05:09.450 ⇒ 00:05:13.040 zacfromson: So then people can get it anywhere, and it saved us an absolute…
61 00:05:13.040 ⇒ 00:05:19.380 Bobby Palmieri: metric. It saved us a boatload, our employees got way better health insurance, and it saved them money.
62 00:05:19.640 ⇒ 00:05:20.680 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
63 00:05:21.240 ⇒ 00:05:27.040 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, well, send me, yeah, so if you guys have a referral code, if that helps you guys, let me know. Send it to me.
64 00:05:27.040 ⇒ 00:05:33.190 Bobby Palmieri: I think referral codes on, health insurance is probably illegal, so… consider.
65 00:05:33.190 ⇒ 00:05:34.460 zacfromson: I’m very excited.
66 00:05:34.460 ⇒ 00:05:36.100 Samuel Roberts: Did I miss?
67 00:05:36.700 ⇒ 00:05:38.120 Uttam Kumaran: Buying health insurance.
68 00:05:38.120 ⇒ 00:05:39.770 Samuel Roberts: Oh, oh, fun.
69 00:05:39.770 ⇒ 00:05:44.480 zacfromson: Yeah, garbage stuff. No one wants to deal with it. Yeah. We all need it, though.
70 00:05:45.210 ⇒ 00:05:48.419 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool, let’s get started. So…
71 00:05:48.550 ⇒ 00:06:01.389 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, mainly today, I want to just talk about, like, kind of all the work streams that we’re sort of, you know, kicking on, and sort of get a sense of, like, timelines. So let me just pull up one last thing, which is the…
72 00:06:02.390 ⇒ 00:06:03.590 Uttam Kumaran: the stock…
73 00:06:11.120 ⇒ 00:06:12.050 Uttam Kumaran: Oh…
74 00:06:19.960 ⇒ 00:06:20.660 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
75 00:06:21.860 ⇒ 00:06:26.569 Uttam Kumaran: So, we chatted today a little bit about a couple things, so I just wanted to walk through…
76 00:06:26.930 ⇒ 00:06:30.859 Uttam Kumaran: This, and where is the screen?
77 00:06:33.240 ⇒ 00:06:34.850 Uttam Kumaran: Cool, so…
78 00:06:34.980 ⇒ 00:06:47.870 Uttam Kumaran: looking at, like, phase one, I think we talked about this last week, this is sort of, like, the timeline we’re looking at. So, to give you a sense, right now we’re running, you know, typically anywhere from, like, I would say, like.
79 00:06:48.810 ⇒ 00:06:51.539 Uttam Kumaran: 20 to 40, 50 hours a week.
80 00:06:51.920 ⇒ 00:06:53.819 Uttam Kumaran: So this is sort of like…
81 00:06:53.920 ⇒ 00:07:09.709 Uttam Kumaran: basically, I would say it’s Pranav and Sam kind of have time, mostly on Pranav’s side. So really, like, we’re able to probably take, like, two work streams at a time. So this is, like, everything that goes… that’s going into Phase 1, which is…
82 00:07:09.790 ⇒ 00:07:23.080 Uttam Kumaran: Finishing up the Global Access to Clients, finishing up the admin panel, and then finishing up reports. It’s around, like, 70 hours of work, which would typically be, like, between Sam and
83 00:07:23.540 ⇒ 00:07:26.160 Uttam Kumaran: For now of, like, about a week, week and a half.
84 00:07:26.420 ⇒ 00:07:43.900 Uttam Kumaran: But kind of, like, one thing I wanted to talk about today is we do have a couple of other projects that we’re also prioritizing, which is, the Nano Banana integration, the Cloud Code sort of training. Additionally, we scoped out, like, due diligence, and then driving towards, like, forecasting.
85 00:07:44.080 ⇒ 00:07:50.299 Uttam Kumaran: So I do want to get a sense of, like, priorities, and sort of… kind of understand, like, how we want to…
86 00:07:50.490 ⇒ 00:07:59.179 Uttam Kumaran: like, what deadlines we want to try to hit, so I can back into, like, what it would take. For me, on my side, I think it would be great to have Pranav basically just, like.
87 00:07:59.420 ⇒ 00:08:13.910 Uttam Kumaran: full-time working on… on this stuff. Basically, on our… on our team also, it’s… it’s me, Sam, kind of overseeing, and then we probably end up looping even, like, one more engineer on, to try to just basically start to take on two or three work streams at a time.
88 00:08:15.340 ⇒ 00:08:24.560 Uttam Kumaran: after this week, we should be, like, near complete on Phase 1, but given, like, how much complexity is gonna go into Phase 2, it’s probably still gonna be another…
89 00:08:24.830 ⇒ 00:08:29.410 Uttam Kumaran: Like, month, month and a half to finish out everything on forecasting.
90 00:08:29.580 ⇒ 00:08:41.609 Uttam Kumaran: And so, if we want to sort of, like, try to continue to push on that, in addition to looping in all the other, like, things like the Nano Banana Claude Code, and do the DD,
91 00:08:41.730 ⇒ 00:08:50.829 Uttam Kumaran: you probably need to increase scope. So I guess, like, I wanted to just get a sense of, like, priorities there. We could talk about the due diligence piece. I have some…
92 00:08:51.300 ⇒ 00:08:52.709 Uttam Kumaran: Stuff on that, so…
93 00:08:52.710 ⇒ 00:08:55.590 Bobby Palmieri: Let’s put the chat on the due diligence piece.
94 00:08:55.590 ⇒ 00:08:56.150 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
95 00:08:56.550 ⇒ 00:09:04.379 Bobby Palmieri: I will… if you guys put your digital earmuffs on for a second, like, Zach, we’re gonna do the.
96 00:09:04.930 ⇒ 00:09:06.410 zacfromson: Yeah, it’s happened either way, yeah.