Meeting Title: Interlude SOP Process Mapping Date: 2025-09-04 Meeting participants: Samuel Roberts, Mustafa Raja
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1 00:00:24.650 ⇒ 00:00:25.900 Samuel Roberts: Cool, cool.
2 00:00:26.950 ⇒ 00:00:27.560 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
3 00:00:28.230 ⇒ 00:00:33.589 Samuel Roberts: Sorry, I didn’t make that event earlier, I should have been on top of that, but I’m glad we’re here.
4 00:00:34.010 ⇒ 00:00:35.910 Samuel Roberts: Cool, so I was just getting a…
5 00:00:37.480 ⇒ 00:00:42.830 Samuel Roberts: I’ve not… I’ve been in FigJams, I’ve not started at FigJam, so I’m just gonna go to Figma.
6 00:00:42.830 ⇒ 00:00:46.330 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’ve never also worked with big jams.
7 00:00:46.330 ⇒ 00:00:47.670 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, so I just…
8 00:00:47.860 ⇒ 00:00:54.790 Samuel Roberts: I’ve done Figma a little bit, but I’m not sure… and of course, it gives me all these pop-ups every time. FigJam, there we go. Okay, I will send this link.
9 00:00:56.140 ⇒ 00:01:05.319 Samuel Roberts: Right here… We’ll call this… Journey…
10 00:01:05.950 ⇒ 00:01:08.750 Samuel Roberts: Lowe’s… let me figure this out. Okay.
11 00:01:10.570 ⇒ 00:01:14.759 Samuel Roberts: Alright, so, let’s… let’s think this through. So, I… I…
12 00:01:15.820 ⇒ 00:01:20.480 Samuel Roberts: Like, some of these other projects, like, came in while things had already, like, been kicked off.
13 00:01:20.480 ⇒ 00:01:21.200 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
14 00:01:21.200 ⇒ 00:01:35.480 Samuel Roberts: So I’m curious, like, what is your understanding of their process from, like, the initial kind of thing? Like, I have a pretty good sense of, like, the general idea with, you know, trying to make these outlines and going back and forth with Claude.
15 00:01:35.480 ⇒ 00:01:36.020 Mustafa Raja: Hmm.
16 00:01:36.020 ⇒ 00:01:39.700 Samuel Roberts: But I don’t know if there was more specifics than that that you’re aware of, you know?
17 00:01:39.850 ⇒ 00:01:57.219 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it was pretty much that. Only what they do is they have a questionnaire for their clients and a meeting. Okay, perfect. And what they would do is give the transcript and the questionnaire to the Claude Jatin, have multiple iterations on that.
18 00:01:57.240 ⇒ 00:02:01.089 Mustafa Raja: To be able to finally come up with the… what’s it called?
19 00:02:01.170 ⇒ 00:02:02.390 Mustafa Raja: A deck.
20 00:02:02.520 ⇒ 00:02:04.860 Mustafa Raja: For the client. Yeah, that’s pretty much it.
21 00:02:05.090 ⇒ 00:02:06.290 Samuel Roberts: Okay, so, let me try.
22 00:02:06.290 ⇒ 00:02:07.019 Mustafa Raja: That’s not simple.
23 00:02:07.020 ⇒ 00:02:11.989 Samuel Roberts: We’re generating a…
24 00:02:19.240 ⇒ 00:02:24.350 Samuel Roberts: Let me see… I’m just gonna try to use the AI here and… .
25 00:02:24.350 ⇒ 00:02:25.760 Mustafa Raja: This pig jam has in, yeah.
26 00:02:25.760 ⇒ 00:02:31.140 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I just said flowchart for generating a presentation slide outline, and let’s see what it does, and then we’ll just work inside that, maybe.
27 00:02:31.580 ⇒ 00:02:32.749 Samuel Roberts: Okay, oh, let’s…
28 00:02:32.750 ⇒ 00:02:34.839 Mustafa Raja: So this is generated by the AI.
29 00:02:34.840 ⇒ 00:02:42.840 Samuel Roberts: This has just popped out, yeah, so we… this is not accurate, obviously, but I was curious how it… okay, so it just made the squares and the arrows, so we can just do that. Okay.
30 00:02:44.990 ⇒ 00:02:46.680 Samuel Roberts: Alright, cool.
31 00:02:46.970 ⇒ 00:02:47.920 Mustafa Raja: Define…
32 00:02:47.920 ⇒ 00:02:55.130 Samuel Roberts: Let’s, okay, anyway, I just wanted to see what it did, but we can make a new one, kind of using this as our guide, I guess.
33 00:02:56.010 ⇒ 00:02:57.020 Mustafa Raja: Let’s see, female…
34 00:02:57.020 ⇒ 00:03:01.670 Samuel Roberts: So let’s see, let’s say, so they have, what’d you say there was a…
35 00:03:02.550 ⇒ 00:03:07.459 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so they, so they start with, with…
36 00:03:07.680 ⇒ 00:03:17.919 Mustafa Raja: So the, they have two inputs for Clotchat. One is the meeting transcript that they have for the client, and the other one is,
37 00:03:18.070 ⇒ 00:03:21.510 Mustafa Raja: The questionnaire that they have for every client.
38 00:03:21.510 ⇒ 00:03:25.699 Samuel Roberts: Okay, and that’s… Okay, and that’s something we’ll just get, but for them, they’re probably involved.
39 00:03:25.700 ⇒ 00:03:31.089 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah. These two things are what we get from the client.
40 00:03:31.090 ⇒ 00:03:31.540 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
41 00:03:31.540 ⇒ 00:03:36.139 Mustafa Raja: These two are the basic things we can add as many more as we.
42 00:03:36.140 ⇒ 00:03:43.330 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, okay, so they… so they… let’s… let me… hold on, let me… I’m gonna say…
43 00:03:46.690 ⇒ 00:03:48.930 Samuel Roberts: We’ll do that, and then I’m gonna make that.
44 00:03:49.140 ⇒ 00:03:59.560 Samuel Roberts: Extra… oh, yeah, okay, that’s fine. My inner… my lack of Figma experience is showing, but here we go. Okay, so they had these two things.
45 00:03:59.750 ⇒ 00:04:04.420 Samuel Roberts: And then… I’m gonna say… they…
46 00:04:06.190 ⇒ 00:04:08.760 Samuel Roberts: They probably had that and a custom prompt, I’m guessing?
47 00:04:09.420 ⇒ 00:04:14.850 Mustafa Raja: yeah, yeah, do you want to bring in the prompt over here?
48 00:04:16.870 ⇒ 00:04:20.510 Samuel Roberts: I just, I’m trying to think, I just want to, like, map it out and understand exactly, like.
49 00:04:20.510 ⇒ 00:04:24.350 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah. So they basically took these 3 things and fed them into quad, is that right?
50 00:04:25.080 ⇒ 00:04:27.970 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, they had a system prompt for it, too.
51 00:04:29.180 ⇒ 00:04:29.930 Samuel Roberts: For two different ones?
52 00:04:29.930 ⇒ 00:04:32.069 Mustafa Raja: Did they… huh?
53 00:04:32.500 ⇒ 00:04:33.559 Samuel Roberts: I’m sorry, say that again?
54 00:04:34.100 ⇒ 00:04:36.839 Mustafa Raja: They had a system prompt for the cloud chat.
55 00:04:37.000 ⇒ 00:04:37.660 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
56 00:04:38.500 ⇒ 00:04:49.380 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so they start with the system prompt, then throw in, files one by one, and then have it return it multiple times.
57 00:04:49.530 ⇒ 00:04:52.700 Samuel Roberts: Mmm, okay, so basically it was, like, something like this.
58 00:04:53.700 ⇒ 00:04:54.930 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.
59 00:04:55.160 ⇒ 00:04:56.250 Samuel Roberts: Claude…
60 00:04:56.250 ⇒ 00:04:57.540 Mustafa Raja: Lead to Claudia.
61 00:04:57.540 ⇒ 00:04:59.290 Samuel Roberts: And then we’ll say.
62 00:05:00.560 ⇒ 00:05:03.140 Mustafa Raja: I have first situation, and, and.
63 00:05:03.140 ⇒ 00:05:03.460 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
64 00:05:03.460 ⇒ 00:05:04.010 Mustafa Raja: And…
65 00:05:04.390 ⇒ 00:05:04.870 Samuel Roberts: Alright.
66 00:05:04.870 ⇒ 00:05:10.519 Mustafa Raja: What we can do is, I can pull up one of the chats, or multiple chats, and we can look into it while.
67 00:05:10.520 ⇒ 00:05:12.530 Samuel Roberts: That’d be great. Oh yeah, you have the chat, that’s right, let’s definitely take a.
68 00:05:12.530 ⇒ 00:05:13.640 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.
69 00:05:13.640 ⇒ 00:05:14.130 Samuel Roberts: I forgot about that.
70 00:05:14.130 ⇒ 00:05:15.949 Mustafa Raja: I meanings for multiple.
71 00:05:15.950 ⇒ 00:05:16.680 Samuel Roberts: Totally, yeah.
72 00:05:19.840 ⇒ 00:05:23.550 Mustafa Raja: Do… should I share my screen or something?
73 00:05:23.550 ⇒ 00:05:24.859 Samuel Roberts: That’d be great, yeah.
74 00:05:26.000 ⇒ 00:05:26.860 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
75 00:05:27.360 ⇒ 00:05:28.830 Mustafa Raja: A moment, please.
76 00:05:28.830 ⇒ 00:05:29.580 Samuel Roberts: No problem.
77 00:05:30.030 ⇒ 00:05:32.720 Mustafa Raja: Motion…
78 00:05:34.410 ⇒ 00:05:37.149 Samuel Roberts: I’m gonna do middle of that, say.
79 00:05:39.700 ⇒ 00:05:40.620 Mustafa Raja: Lines…
80 00:05:46.020 ⇒ 00:05:47.030 Mustafa Raja: Indulude.
81 00:05:56.080 ⇒ 00:05:56.690 Samuel Roberts: This…
82 00:06:02.760 ⇒ 00:06:05.669 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, we have these ones.
83 00:06:06.760 ⇒ 00:06:08.000 Mustafa Raja: Let’s open this.
84 00:06:25.030 ⇒ 00:06:30.660 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, you see, I’m changing my screen, and we have the thing over here.
85 00:06:30.660 ⇒ 00:06:33.350 Samuel Roberts: Okay, so let’s see. Copy the chat.
86 00:06:33.350 ⇒ 00:06:34.480 Mustafa Raja: Go ahead, yep.
87 00:06:35.030 ⇒ 00:06:37.109 Samuel Roberts: Big system prompt, yep.
88 00:06:37.320 ⇒ 00:06:45.550 Mustafa Raja: And… What order would you like to receive that? And then giving the file.
89 00:06:46.790 ⇒ 00:06:49.820 Mustafa Raja: More file. More file.
90 00:06:49.820 ⇒ 00:06:52.010 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, oh, I see, okay, so it was, like.
91 00:06:52.010 ⇒ 00:06:52.480 Mustafa Raja: multiple states.
92 00:06:52.480 ⇒ 00:06:54.140 Samuel Roberts: Steps, yes, yes.
93 00:06:54.140 ⇒ 00:07:08.800 Mustafa Raja: So, we can keep this question open for now. Remember my instructions on how to write? We want to fundraise. So, so then they create a narrative.
94 00:07:09.290 ⇒ 00:07:09.630 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
95 00:07:09.630 ⇒ 00:07:10.810 Mustafa Raja: the narrative.
96 00:07:11.310 ⇒ 00:07:14.349 Samuel Roberts: Good, okay, no, this is, this is good.
97 00:07:14.350 ⇒ 00:07:19.130 Mustafa Raja: And then give it a… give it a deck flow.
98 00:07:20.760 ⇒ 00:07:25.399 Mustafa Raja: They reformat this narrative in a way that the deck would flow.
99 00:07:25.700 ⇒ 00:07:27.290 Samuel Roberts: Interesting, okay, okay.
100 00:07:27.290 ⇒ 00:07:31.800 Mustafa Raja: And a similar, format that we would have in our…
101 00:07:33.460 ⇒ 00:07:35.480 Mustafa Raja: thing that I’ve… that we have built.
102 00:07:35.820 ⇒ 00:07:40.359 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, okay, okay, cool, so it’s a little more complicated than what I was just diagramming here.
103 00:07:40.570 ⇒ 00:07:41.890 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
104 00:07:41.890 ⇒ 00:07:43.020 Samuel Roberts: So.
105 00:07:43.020 ⇒ 00:07:46.469 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, and then, questions.
106 00:07:47.000 ⇒ 00:07:48.910 Samuel Roberts: Right, okay, so let’s… let’s map this.
107 00:07:48.910 ⇒ 00:07:52.029 Mustafa Raja: And then based on those questions, improve it.
108 00:07:54.320 ⇒ 00:07:59.010 Mustafa Raja: Now, even these competitive improvements to the deck, so what they…
109 00:07:59.200 ⇒ 00:08:03.950 Mustafa Raja: Create the deck, put up investor hat.
110 00:08:04.950 ⇒ 00:08:08.439 Mustafa Raja: Questions, and then improve the… improve the thing.
111 00:08:08.440 ⇒ 00:08:11.670 Samuel Roberts: Can you, send me that link in the Zoom chat?
112 00:08:11.670 ⇒ 00:08:14.010 Mustafa Raja: It’s, it’s in, what’s it called?
113 00:08:14.110 ⇒ 00:08:16.720 Mustafa Raja: This.
114 00:08:16.720 ⇒ 00:08:19.290 Samuel Roberts: Oh, okay, which notion is that? That’s, clients…
115 00:08:19.290 ⇒ 00:08:22.190 Mustafa Raja: Let me send you the link. Brainful.
116 00:08:22.190 ⇒ 00:08:22.799 Samuel Roberts: Perfect, thank you.
117 00:08:23.940 ⇒ 00:08:26.679 Mustafa Raja: I’m sending it in Zoom chat.
118 00:08:26.930 ⇒ 00:08:27.840 Samuel Roberts: Perfect.
119 00:08:28.370 ⇒ 00:08:32.340 Mustafa Raja: It’s, the one open is, the first one.
120 00:08:32.340 ⇒ 00:08:33.000 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
121 00:08:33.549 ⇒ 00:08:34.969 Mustafa Raja: First Cloud Chat.
122 00:08:35.789 ⇒ 00:08:37.749 Mustafa Raja: It’s in the DAG data table.
123 00:08:38.439 ⇒ 00:08:39.299 Mustafa Raja: To the right side.
124 00:08:39.299 ⇒ 00:08:39.989 Samuel Roberts: Nope.
125 00:08:40.470 ⇒ 00:08:40.900 Mustafa Raja: You love it.
126 00:08:40.900 ⇒ 00:08:41.539 Samuel Roberts: Of course.
127 00:08:41.549 ⇒ 00:08:42.259 Mustafa Raja: I’m there.
128 00:08:42.260 ⇒ 00:08:46.589 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, okay. Claude Chat, so just this one…
129 00:08:47.300 ⇒ 00:08:50.010 Samuel Roberts: Let’s share… okay, perfect. I’m gonna…
130 00:08:51.190 ⇒ 00:08:53.450 Samuel Roberts: just map this out into Figma, then.
131 00:08:54.760 ⇒ 00:08:56.010 Mustafa Raja: It’s like a first pass.
132 00:08:56.010 ⇒ 00:08:59.720 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, yeah, so I’m just gonna take it, and of course.
133 00:08:59.720 ⇒ 00:09:02.429 Mustafa Raja: And for our solution, what we can do is just look into…
134 00:09:03.830 ⇒ 00:09:07.039 Mustafa Raja: Our, NIT and flow.
135 00:09:07.750 ⇒ 00:09:08.410 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
136 00:09:09.630 ⇒ 00:09:17.730 Samuel Roberts: Okay, so this started with… okay, system prompts, so these are not… Sope.
137 00:09:20.640 ⇒ 00:09:23.059 Samuel Roberts: Listen pump, feed the clod,
138 00:09:24.110 ⇒ 00:09:36.410 Samuel Roberts: And then… okay, so system prompt… Feed to Claude. Provide… information.
139 00:09:40.540 ⇒ 00:09:43.320 Samuel Roberts: I’m just trying to think of the best way to diagram this, because I’m not…
140 00:09:43.320 ⇒ 00:09:43.650 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
141 00:09:43.650 ⇒ 00:09:44.020 Samuel Roberts: I don’t know.
142 00:09:44.020 ⇒ 00:09:47.940 Mustafa Raja: We can have it one block only.
143 00:09:47.940 ⇒ 00:09:49.579 Samuel Roberts: You just want to walk it through like this?
144 00:09:50.250 ⇒ 00:09:53.510 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah. For the files, I’m seeing.
145 00:09:54.010 ⇒ 00:09:55.269 Samuel Roberts: Mmm, okay, yeah.
146 00:09:55.270 ⇒ 00:09:57.820 Mustafa Raja: for the files with a loop until we…
147 00:09:57.820 ⇒ 00:09:59.670 Samuel Roberts: Sure, okay, perfect, okay.
148 00:09:59.670 ⇒ 00:10:01.299 Mustafa Raja: benefit the files.
149 00:10:02.710 ⇒ 00:10:04.999 Mustafa Raja: File supporting our thing, whatever.
150 00:10:05.000 ⇒ 00:10:07.260 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I’ll just say files for now, and then we’ll, again.
151 00:10:07.260 ⇒ 00:10:07.770 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.
152 00:10:07.770 ⇒ 00:10:12.540 Samuel Roberts: But, okay, so then that here…
153 00:10:14.660 ⇒ 00:10:19.749 Samuel Roberts: And then, let’s see how to make a loop here curb connector. So we’re gonna say feed to Claude…
154 00:10:20.100 ⇒ 00:10:25.989 Samuel Roberts: and then… oop, I’m still not used to Figma. Okay, here we go.
155 00:10:32.210 ⇒ 00:10:34.610 Samuel Roberts: Hmm… no, I don’t want it there, I want it…
156 00:10:34.820 ⇒ 00:10:35.600 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
157 00:10:35.600 ⇒ 00:10:36.320 Samuel Roberts: bed, and then…
158 00:10:36.580 ⇒ 00:10:39.099 Mustafa Raja: P2Cloud would be the better one.
159 00:10:39.100 ⇒ 00:10:41.210 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, so we’ll just do this.
160 00:10:42.420 ⇒ 00:10:43.590 Samuel Roberts: And…
161 00:10:46.390 ⇒ 00:10:48.089 Mustafa Raja: Same one going back.
162 00:10:49.420 ⇒ 00:10:52.520 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I just… I don’t know where I can take it out of here, I guess.
163 00:10:52.880 ⇒ 00:10:55.189 Samuel Roberts: I don’t really like that.
164 00:10:56.420 ⇒ 00:10:58.969 Samuel Roberts: This doesn’t look… there we go, can I move this over there.
165 00:10:58.970 ⇒ 00:11:00.460 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah, listen.
166 00:11:00.460 ⇒ 00:11:02.489 Samuel Roberts: better. Okay, I’m gonna back this up a little bit.
167 00:11:03.380 ⇒ 00:11:04.340 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
168 00:11:04.570 ⇒ 00:11:14.020 Samuel Roberts: files… Repeat a bunch of times, and then it says… First…
169 00:11:16.700 ⇒ 00:11:18.650 Samuel Roberts: We’ll say first draft, I guess?
170 00:11:18.650 ⇒ 00:11:23.139 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that’s it. Or negative, we can say.
171 00:11:25.300 ⇒ 00:11:33.019 Mustafa Raja: We can say it’s… because they first have a developer narrative, and then convert it into a…
172 00:11:33.410 ⇒ 00:11:39.680 Samuel Roberts: Oh, right, right. So, okay, so it feeds the files, and then, they… they give it a…
173 00:11:40.580 ⇒ 00:11:42.679 Mustafa Raja: They ask it to build a narrative.
174 00:11:42.870 ⇒ 00:11:50.440 Samuel Roberts: Right, build, so the instruction, maybe we’ll say here, Want to build narrative one?
175 00:11:50.440 ⇒ 00:12:00.220 Mustafa Raja: One thing I would say, though, is it’s going to be a little different for every other, other chat, but…
176 00:12:00.370 ⇒ 00:12:02.849 Mustafa Raja: In acrylics, it’s the same thing.
177 00:12:04.570 ⇒ 00:12:05.120 Samuel Roberts: Right.
178 00:12:05.120 ⇒ 00:12:09.080 Mustafa Raja: Meaning the steps might, you know, alternate sometimes.
179 00:12:10.590 ⇒ 00:12:11.900 Samuel Roberts: I see what you’re saying, dude.
180 00:12:16.030 ⇒ 00:12:17.180 Samuel Roberts: Hmm…
181 00:12:19.150 ⇒ 00:12:24.739 Mustafa Raja: Maybe the arrow to first draft, we can remove that and add in this box.
182 00:12:25.600 ⇒ 00:12:28.540 Samuel Roberts: Sure, that’s better. Okay.
183 00:12:29.660 ⇒ 00:12:31.140 Mustafa Raja: Let’s throw the, yeah…
184 00:12:34.880 ⇒ 00:12:35.890 Samuel Roberts: Oh, come on.
185 00:12:36.350 ⇒ 00:12:37.130 Samuel Roberts: There you go.
186 00:12:40.770 ⇒ 00:12:44.800 Samuel Roberts: first draft… Or for narrative, narrative graph, we’ll say, right?
187 00:12:45.090 ⇒ 00:12:52.199 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then these… and then we have it wear an investor hat, think of some.
188 00:12:52.200 ⇒ 00:12:52.980 Samuel Roberts: Right.
189 00:12:52.980 ⇒ 00:13:04.170 Mustafa Raja: improvements, and then improve based on that, and then, what Matthew does is proofreads it, and he would have some
190 00:13:04.340 ⇒ 00:13:07.400 Mustafa Raja: Improvements to work.
191 00:13:07.940 ⇒ 00:13:08.570 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
192 00:13:08.570 ⇒ 00:13:11.369 Mustafa Raja: And who have the opinion.
193 00:13:12.230 ⇒ 00:13:16.990 Samuel Roberts: Okay, so let’s… yeah. I mean, feel free to add stuff, too, if you want. I don’t need to be the one doing.
194 00:13:16.990 ⇒ 00:13:20.300 Mustafa Raja: I can… I forgot that I guess.
195 00:13:20.300 ⇒ 00:13:28.330 Samuel Roberts: I know, I kind of do too, but that’s the point, is that we can both… so what are you thinking? So then, narrative draft, and then we’ll do, like, another loop of feedback, maybe?
196 00:13:30.100 ⇒ 00:13:39.140 Mustafa Raja: Hmm… I think that right after the narrative draft, what is happening over here?
197 00:13:40.210 ⇒ 00:13:44.530 Mustafa Raja: is… They are asking it questions.
198 00:13:45.340 ⇒ 00:13:46.610 Mustafa Raja: Right. Right?
199 00:13:46.870 ⇒ 00:13:49.920 Mustafa Raja: On the narrative. Draft.
200 00:13:51.110 ⇒ 00:13:55.809 Mustafa Raja: This is the narrative draft.
201 00:13:56.010 ⇒ 00:14:00.419 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, can you come over to my, to my screen share?
202 00:14:00.610 ⇒ 00:14:02.800 Samuel Roberts: Looking at it now, yeah, I just jumped over.
203 00:14:02.800 ⇒ 00:14:06.809 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so this is the… this is often narrative, narrative.
204 00:14:06.960 ⇒ 00:14:14.110 Mustafa Raja: thing, so they are… they’re… they’re making me… they’re making it work on… work on questions and improve.
205 00:14:14.110 ⇒ 00:14:19.699 Samuel Roberts: Oh, they’re… okay, I’m sorry, I misunderstood. So they’re not asking it questions, they’re giving… telling it to figure out questions.
206 00:14:19.700 ⇒ 00:14:31.300 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so what’s… what… what are the… what are… so if Claude was an investor, what would be the questions, Claude would ask?
207 00:14:31.660 ⇒ 00:14:37.439 Mustafa Raja: Right, and based on that, they are making the narrative better.
208 00:14:37.710 ⇒ 00:14:38.450 Mustafa Raja: See?
209 00:14:39.140 ⇒ 00:14:43.610 Samuel Roberts: Right, right, Claude generates… questions about…
210 00:14:45.420 ⇒ 00:14:51.790 Mustafa Raja: Do we want to also… do we want to pull up multiple chats and then see?
211 00:14:52.620 ⇒ 00:14:57.120 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I definitely want to keep just, like, Adding something?
212 00:14:57.120 ⇒ 00:15:01.120 Mustafa Raja: I guess we want to… we want to keep the crux of it only, you know? We don’t want.
213 00:15:01.120 ⇒ 00:15:05.250 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I was just thinking, if we just map one out, we can start tweaking it once we see how the.
214 00:15:05.250 ⇒ 00:15:09.210 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah, that, that… yeah, let’s do that then. Let’s do that.
215 00:15:09.450 ⇒ 00:15:10.920 Mustafa Raja: Let’s open another…
216 00:15:10.920 ⇒ 00:15:14.599 Samuel Roberts: Because I want to see, like, how did he do 1? How did he do two? How did he do…
217 00:15:15.470 ⇒ 00:15:17.529 Samuel Roberts: Or from investors…
218 00:15:17.940 ⇒ 00:15:22.080 Mustafa Raja: And then we can say V1, V1 deck.
219 00:15:22.800 ⇒ 00:15:24.250 Samuel Roberts: Sure. Oop.
220 00:15:25.050 ⇒ 00:15:25.859 Mustafa Raja: Oh, hold on.
221 00:15:25.860 ⇒ 00:15:26.890 Samuel Roberts: What am I doing here?
222 00:15:26.890 ⇒ 00:15:29.539 Mustafa Raja: Improve based on that? Yeah.
223 00:15:29.690 ⇒ 00:15:30.530 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
224 00:15:30.640 ⇒ 00:15:35.920 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so this one would be the improved one based on these questions, right?
225 00:15:35.920 ⇒ 00:15:38.349 Samuel Roberts: Oh, right, so we probably need another step in here, don’t we?
226 00:15:38.350 ⇒ 00:15:39.110 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
227 00:15:39.520 ⇒ 00:15:40.829 Samuel Roberts: How do I…
228 00:15:41.070 ⇒ 00:15:44.090 Mustafa Raja: Do we need to? Because right after this.
229 00:15:44.450 ⇒ 00:15:46.440 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we need, we need…
230 00:15:46.440 ⇒ 00:15:47.880 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, cause then he uses.
231 00:15:47.880 ⇒ 00:15:48.660 Mustafa Raja: No.
232 00:15:51.420 ⇒ 00:15:55.879 Samuel Roberts: investor hat… what questions? Putting on the investor hat, here are the questions I have.
233 00:15:56.720 ⇒ 00:16:00.859 Samuel Roberts: This is excellent. Now, implement three narrative improvement based on questions, we’ll say.
234 00:16:00.860 ⇒ 00:16:01.720 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.
235 00:16:02.310 ⇒ 00:16:03.779 Samuel Roberts: Okay, so let’s drop.
236 00:16:05.030 ⇒ 00:16:07.700 Samuel Roberts: This in here, that didn’t work.
237 00:16:24.390 ⇒ 00:16:27.850 Samuel Roberts: Okay, I’m missing a plate today. Okay.
238 00:16:28.400 ⇒ 00:16:30.570 Samuel Roberts: Cool, alright.
239 00:16:31.710 ⇒ 00:16:38.739 Samuel Roberts: V1 deck outline, and then after that is, like, feedback to Claude.
240 00:16:39.200 ⇒ 00:16:45.490 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so… right after that…
241 00:16:45.810 ⇒ 00:16:55.570 Mustafa Raja: Good reading it back, so I can think. Combine header plus subheader. Yeah, this is… this is, this would be the formatting one, you know.
242 00:16:55.570 ⇒ 00:16:59.199 Samuel Roberts: Okay, yeah, feedback. I’m gonna say feedback, and then we can do, like, a loop, maybe.
243 00:17:01.250 ⇒ 00:17:02.760 Samuel Roberts: Feedback… feedback.
244 00:17:02.760 ⇒ 00:17:10.800 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, it’s… yeah, it’s feedback and formatting.
245 00:17:10.800 ⇒ 00:17:12.619 Samuel Roberts: Comos, I believe.
246 00:17:15.160 ⇒ 00:17:19.029 Mustafa Raja: apart from the knowledge of drills, we want to explain.
247 00:17:20.329 ⇒ 00:17:23.449 Mustafa Raja: I was trying to solve this problem and failed.
248 00:17:23.770 ⇒ 00:17:30.440 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, it’s both feedback on slides, or the narrative itself.
249 00:17:33.490 ⇒ 00:17:35.670 Mustafa Raja: Why others failed.
250 00:17:39.940 ⇒ 00:17:40.790 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
251 00:17:41.340 ⇒ 00:17:47.089 Mustafa Raja: Goal is to solidify the narrative as much as they can.
252 00:17:52.530 ⇒ 00:18:02.570 Samuel Roberts: Alright, so this feedback, let’s maybe, let’s say… At a… Example one here, maybe.
253 00:18:03.820 ⇒ 00:18:08.749 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I wasn’t sure the best way to represent this, but I’m thinking we can do, like, feedback, and then we can break this out into, like…
254 00:18:10.020 ⇒ 00:18:13.490 Samuel Roberts: what… Examples of feedback it gave.
255 00:18:14.170 ⇒ 00:18:15.240 Mustafa Raja: Hmm…
256 00:18:15.460 ⇒ 00:18:16.390 Samuel Roberts: What to eliminate?
257 00:18:16.390 ⇒ 00:18:18.220 Mustafa Raja: Second formatting…
258 00:18:20.170 ⇒ 00:18:22.790 Samuel Roberts: I’m just gonna go through, like, is this the right ordering?
259 00:18:23.460 ⇒ 00:18:25.820 Mustafa Raja: What to eliminate?
260 00:18:26.830 ⇒ 00:18:27.540 Samuel Roberts: Sorry?
261 00:18:31.180 ⇒ 00:18:34.590 Mustafa Raja: Maybe, strengthen the narrative?
262 00:18:35.480 ⇒ 00:18:36.320 Samuel Roberts: the narrative?
263 00:18:36.560 ⇒ 00:18:39.530 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, they’re strengthening the narrative.
264 00:18:39.630 ⇒ 00:18:42.519 Samuel Roberts: Oh, I see, okay, so instead of doing it as a loop, we can just do…
265 00:18:43.060 ⇒ 00:18:43.750 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, sorry.
266 00:18:43.750 ⇒ 00:18:45.090 Samuel Roberts: Let me, let me do it this way, hold on.
267 00:18:45.090 ⇒ 00:18:54.110 Mustafa Raja: So, so… so one of the things is how they’re doing it is, doing… why others failed, and…
268 00:18:54.860 ⇒ 00:19:03.059 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, obviously, in that slide, they’ll say we’re different from others, though.
269 00:19:03.160 ⇒ 00:19:03.990 Mustafa Raja: Right.
270 00:19:04.690 ⇒ 00:19:05.510 Samuel Roberts: Right.
271 00:19:06.860 ⇒ 00:19:08.310 Samuel Roberts: Okay, so strengthen.
272 00:19:09.460 ⇒ 00:19:15.380 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, strengthening the narrative, and then a few, what’s it called?
273 00:19:15.530 ⇒ 00:19:20.200 Mustafa Raja: visual changes, which is… The format, I think…
274 00:19:20.200 ⇒ 00:19:21.020 Samuel Roberts: Formatting.
275 00:19:21.570 ⇒ 00:19:23.220 Samuel Roberts: Strengthen narrative.
276 00:19:24.620 ⇒ 00:19:29.939 Mustafa Raja: And then… go back to the original release date that I gave you, look closely.
277 00:19:30.570 ⇒ 00:19:36.049 Mustafa Raja: First, if I will clean that up, give me new opening that ties the following up.
278 00:19:36.270 ⇒ 00:19:41.640 Mustafa Raja: Hmm… Yeah, and then they… they’re also…
279 00:19:42.570 ⇒ 00:19:45.779 Mustafa Raja: Can you come to… come to… come to over here?
280 00:19:45.780 ⇒ 00:19:48.780 Samuel Roberts: Yep, I’m looking at it. Go back to the original Rails deck that I gave you.
281 00:19:49.640 ⇒ 00:19:59.589 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so I guess over here, Matthew didn’t like how it’s starting, and had a few ideas on how it should do.
282 00:20:01.220 ⇒ 00:20:06.099 Samuel Roberts: So we’ll say strengthen narrative, and then this is maybe where there’s just a feedback loop of different changes.
283 00:20:06.100 ⇒ 00:20:09.919 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, feedback loop on deck changes, I believe.
284 00:20:09.920 ⇒ 00:20:10.480 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
285 00:20:10.790 ⇒ 00:20:14.459 Mustafa Raja: Structure changes, or what… What do you think would be a better word?
286 00:20:14.460 ⇒ 00:20:16.580 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, let’s see.
287 00:20:21.410 ⇒ 00:20:29.810 Mustafa Raja: what I’m going to say is, we are only looking in one, though, right? We have to look into more, more…
288 00:20:30.190 ⇒ 00:20:32.700 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, definitely, definitely, we can, we can do more of that.
289 00:20:33.340 ⇒ 00:20:34.110 Samuel Roberts: I don’t give you…
290 00:20:34.110 ⇒ 00:20:37.449 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, more examples to generalize this.
291 00:20:37.450 ⇒ 00:20:40.709 Samuel Roberts: Oh, you can’t edit it, I just realized. Okay, I’m sorry, I just saw that on your thing.
292 00:20:41.250 ⇒ 00:20:43.290 Samuel Roberts: Now you can edit, if you refresh properly.
293 00:20:44.860 ⇒ 00:20:46.149 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’ll need to.
294 00:20:46.150 ⇒ 00:20:50.359 Samuel Roberts: Sorry about that, I didn’t realize that’s how I thought it was just the link, but it should be good now.
295 00:20:51.800 ⇒ 00:20:52.680 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah.
296 00:20:52.960 ⇒ 00:20:54.330 Samuel Roberts: Did it work?
297 00:20:54.650 ⇒ 00:20:55.639 Mustafa Raja: No, I can’t.
298 00:20:55.640 ⇒ 00:20:58.450 Samuel Roberts: Oh, no, okay, didn’t… oh, I must not have saved it, I think.
299 00:21:01.150 ⇒ 00:21:05.120 Samuel Roberts: Okay, that’s what I gotta do. There we go. Sorry, my mistake, I didn’t hit the save there.
300 00:21:05.740 ⇒ 00:21:06.320 Mustafa Raja: That’s okay.
301 00:21:06.320 ⇒ 00:21:08.389 Samuel Roberts: Now, refreshing, you’re good.
302 00:21:08.530 ⇒ 00:21:09.870 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
303 00:21:10.530 ⇒ 00:21:15.600 Samuel Roberts: Alright, so we’re gonna say,
304 00:21:16.600 ⇒ 00:21:19.219 Samuel Roberts: So there’s, this is, like, the…
305 00:21:19.520 ⇒ 00:21:22.080 Samuel Roberts: this is the kind of human-in-the-loop feedback, I guess.
306 00:21:22.750 ⇒ 00:21:25.770 Mustafa Raja: This is after the formatting change, though.
307 00:21:25.770 ⇒ 00:21:28.480 Samuel Roberts: Oh, okay, I was gonna do the format, alright, alright, that’s fine.
308 00:21:29.390 ⇒ 00:21:35.160 Samuel Roberts: Sorry, so like that, strengthen narrative, then formatting changes… Then, human in the loop.
309 00:21:35.920 ⇒ 00:21:36.530 Mustafa Raja: Yep.
310 00:21:37.630 ⇒ 00:21:38.739 Samuel Roberts: Human in the loop.
311 00:21:40.830 ⇒ 00:21:45.400 Samuel Roberts: Feedback, we’ll say. Okay, and then after that.
312 00:21:47.670 ⇒ 00:21:48.150 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
313 00:21:48.150 ⇒ 00:21:49.889 Samuel Roberts: Feedback from the team.
314 00:21:52.230 ⇒ 00:21:54.360 Samuel Roberts: So then decided sources and stuff?
315 00:21:55.700 ⇒ 00:21:56.410 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
316 00:21:57.750 ⇒ 00:21:58.260 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, it was.
317 00:21:58.260 ⇒ 00:22:05.379 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it’s then after… so after that, I believe it’s, it’s sent to the client for their review.
318 00:22:07.290 ⇒ 00:22:08.340 Samuel Roberts: client.
319 00:22:09.510 ⇒ 00:22:10.360 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
320 00:22:11.100 ⇒ 00:22:15.190 Mustafa Raja: Hmm. I guess this is very nitpicked on this one.
321 00:22:15.190 ⇒ 00:22:17.840 Samuel Roberts: It’s fine. I mean, I think it’s a good… we just need to start, and I…
322 00:22:17.840 ⇒ 00:22:21.210 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, this is a good starting point. This is a good starting point.
323 00:22:21.210 ⇒ 00:22:25.130 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, okay, so interlude SOP number 1, we’ll say, maybe? Or just interlude…
324 00:22:25.130 ⇒ 00:22:25.620 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.
325 00:22:25.620 ⇒ 00:22:26.890 Samuel Roberts: Turn into the process.
326 00:22:27.030 ⇒ 00:22:28.039 Samuel Roberts: Oh, hold on, now let’s do this.
327 00:22:28.040 ⇒ 00:22:30.270 Mustafa Raja: Or we can say V1, SOP V1.
328 00:22:30.700 ⇒ 00:22:34.550 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I was just even gonna make this, like, a header up here, and then say, like.
329 00:22:35.030 ⇒ 00:22:39.029 Samuel Roberts: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just make this another one that says.
330 00:22:39.820 ⇒ 00:22:40.540 Mustafa Raja: V1.
331 00:22:41.000 ⇒ 00:22:42.090 Samuel Roberts: RV1 yet.
332 00:22:43.090 ⇒ 00:22:43.910 Samuel Roberts: Perfect, okay.
333 00:22:44.650 ⇒ 00:22:51.989 Mustafa Raja: Okay, maybe, the, next we should look into multiple ones and try and generalize this.
334 00:22:51.990 ⇒ 00:22:57.929 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, well, that’s why, because I’m looking here, he also says, like, go back through the iteration and confirm where you got each statistic.
335 00:22:58.760 ⇒ 00:23:01.290 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. So, like, that might be something…
336 00:23:01.290 ⇒ 00:23:02.940 Samuel Roberts: We want to add here, like.
337 00:23:03.270 ⇒ 00:23:04.089 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.
338 00:23:04.090 ⇒ 00:23:05.120 Samuel Roberts: inside sources.
339 00:23:08.210 ⇒ 00:23:11.470 Samuel Roberts: What else? Let’s see what the next thing is he does.
340 00:23:16.310 ⇒ 00:23:17.679 Samuel Roberts: more feedback.
341 00:23:18.580 ⇒ 00:23:20.100 Samuel Roberts: general feedback.
342 00:23:20.280 ⇒ 00:23:22.139 Samuel Roberts: Okay, I think that’s probably pretty good.
343 00:23:22.310 ⇒ 00:23:25.200 Samuel Roberts: Maybe outside sources should be a more specific one.
344 00:23:25.870 ⇒ 00:23:26.630 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
345 00:23:28.310 ⇒ 00:23:37.750 Samuel Roberts: We’ll do that. I’ll just… Where was the formal? So a specific one in our… in our workflow, too. Yeah, exactly, that’s why I wanted to highlight it here, but I’ll just leave it here for now, I guess.
346 00:23:38.700 ⇒ 00:23:43.179 Samuel Roberts: We can… we can clean this up after. I just wanted to get some information down. Okay.
347 00:23:43.180 ⇒ 00:23:44.680 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, we have a meeting in Finland.
348 00:23:44.680 ⇒ 00:23:47.430 Samuel Roberts: I was just gonna say, like, we gotta hop, but maybe let’s,
349 00:23:48.550 ⇒ 00:23:50.849 Samuel Roberts: I can probably run through some of the other ones later, maybe.
350 00:23:50.850 ⇒ 00:23:52.570 Mustafa Raja: Hit on this again.
351 00:23:53.060 ⇒ 00:23:53.780 Samuel Roberts: I’m sorry?
352 00:23:54.390 ⇒ 00:23:56.269 Mustafa Raja: Do you want to meet on this again?
353 00:23:56.620 ⇒ 00:24:00.950 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, let’s see, maybe just after default.
354 00:24:01.840 ⇒ 00:24:02.720 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
355 00:24:03.520 ⇒ 00:24:11.459 Mustafa Raja: After default client meeting would be… would be good, because, I need to work on browser-based thing, no?
356 00:24:13.140 ⇒ 00:24:20.279 Samuel Roberts: Okay, right, so you have some stuff to do. Okay, let me… maybe I’ll take some time on this, and then we can come back later today. I can try to.
357 00:24:20.280 ⇒ 00:24:20.790 Mustafa Raja: Take a couple of minutes.
358 00:24:20.790 ⇒ 00:24:23.759 Samuel Roberts: V1, or V1, V2, V3 for some of the other examples, maybe?
359 00:24:24.140 ⇒ 00:24:25.309 Samuel Roberts: And just kind of generalizing.
360 00:24:25.310 ⇒ 00:24:36.080 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’ll then text you after the client meeting, and if we have time, we can brainstorm together more.
361 00:24:36.080 ⇒ 00:24:36.670 Samuel Roberts: Good.
362 00:24:37.180 ⇒ 00:24:38.560 Mustafa Raja: Okay, thank you so much.
363 00:24:38.560 ⇒ 00:24:39.450 Samuel Roberts: Alright, yeah.