Meeting Title: Interlude Planning & Retro Date: 2025-08-22 Meeting participants: Mustafa Raja, Rico Rejoso
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1 00:00:31.020 ⇒ 00:00:32.320 Rico Rejoso: Same stuff, though.
2 00:00:34.430 ⇒ 00:00:35.350 Mustafa Raja: Hey, how are you?
3 00:00:35.840 ⇒ 00:00:37.110 Rico Rejoso: I’m doing good, how are you?
4 00:00:37.110 ⇒ 00:00:38.169 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, doing good.
5 00:00:38.420 ⇒ 00:00:41.689 Rico Rejoso: Wonderful. By the way, nice presentation earlier.
6 00:00:41.690 ⇒ 00:00:42.950 Mustafa Raja: Thank you.
7 00:00:43.040 ⇒ 00:00:46.850 Rico Rejoso: Thank you so much. I mean, I learned a lot about Pakistan as well.
8 00:00:46.850 ⇒ 00:00:47.540 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, thanks.
9 00:00:47.540 ⇒ 00:00:49.170 Rico Rejoso: Very intrigued.
10 00:00:49.170 ⇒ 00:00:50.030 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, thank you.
11 00:00:50.400 ⇒ 00:01:01.290 Rico Rejoso: Alrighty. So, not sure it’s almost the weekend, and I know pretty much you’re still, like, finishing a lot of stuff before you enjoy your weekend, so let’s get to it.
12 00:01:01.940 ⇒ 00:01:08.509 Rico Rejoso: Okay, Sam may not be able to join, but that’s fine. I think you know the project very well as well.
13 00:01:08.750 ⇒ 00:01:09.530 Mustafa Raja: Yep.
14 00:01:09.980 ⇒ 00:01:26.310 Rico Rejoso: Alrighty. So, there was, like, a lot of stuff. I mean, the meeting with Matt was canceled until he get back, to either Canada or U.S, so while it’s gone, let me just confirm what are we trying to, you know, finalize.
15 00:01:26.650 ⇒ 00:01:28.769 Rico Rejoso: With the tickets that we have remaining.
16 00:01:30.510 ⇒ 00:01:31.060 Rico Rejoso: So the.
17 00:01:31.060 ⇒ 00:01:37.110 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so, for that, I guess the most important thing would be to do…
18 00:01:37.580 ⇒ 00:01:40.579 Mustafa Raja: This inter 25 thing.
19 00:01:41.290 ⇒ 00:01:44.529 Mustafa Raja: What this is going into 25, that that’s in progress.
20 00:01:46.030 ⇒ 00:01:58.109 Mustafa Raja: what that is going to do is, they would be able to, give feedback, and, the AI agent would be able to, based on their feedback, update the deck.
21 00:01:58.480 ⇒ 00:02:00.960 Rico Rejoso: Oh, it’s part of the human interloop, right?
22 00:02:01.450 ⇒ 00:02:02.280 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.
23 00:02:02.450 ⇒ 00:02:12.009 Rico Rejoso: Okay, this one’s very high. I mean, how long do you think it will take for you to, you know, finalize this, or finish this?
24 00:02:12.920 ⇒ 00:02:16.280 Mustafa Raja: I did start it, yes. Actually, no, how long?
25 00:02:16.420 ⇒ 00:02:18.030 Mustafa Raja: We can give it 2 points.
26 00:02:18.030 ⇒ 00:02:20.189 Rico Rejoso: two points, wonderful, Bob.
27 00:02:21.360 ⇒ 00:02:30.650 Rico Rejoso: Okay, so, right now what we’re gonna do is just, you know, set up estimates for this so we can know how long have you been spending for… to work on each task, okay?
28 00:02:30.930 ⇒ 00:02:31.590 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
29 00:02:31.730 ⇒ 00:02:43.299 Rico Rejoso: All right, and supposedly after… sorry for that. Supposedly after the, meeting with Matt, we will be confirming what needs to be done, or what….
30 00:02:43.300 ⇒ 00:02:45.200 Mustafa Raja: For, for that, ….
31 00:02:45.860 ⇒ 00:03:03.230 Mustafa Raja: there’s an issue. The issue is that, the format that they would want, the deck to be stored in Notion, since it’s going to be coming from Slack, the headings will be missing. The headings will be converted in,
32 00:03:04.590 ⇒ 00:03:10.029 Mustafa Raja: just simple, bold text. The reason is that, since Slack doesn’t have it.
33 00:03:10.140 ⇒ 00:03:17.929 Mustafa Raja: Slack doesn’t have the headings, so once we push the, deck from Slack to…
34 00:03:18.100 ⇒ 00:03:22.920 Mustafa Raja: Notion, there’s no way to, locate potential headings.
35 00:03:23.190 ⇒ 00:03:25.160 Mustafa Raja: That is why the headings
36 00:03:25.500 ⇒ 00:03:37.510 Mustafa Raja: will be missed. Now, this is something that I have discussed with Sam, and Utam also, showed interest in moving towards Copilot UI.
37 00:03:37.870 ⇒ 00:03:40.230 Mustafa Raja: For Interlude.
38 00:03:41.030 ⇒ 00:03:52.099 Mustafa Raja: And that is… that might fix it. I’ve, I’ve asked Sam to verify if there… if there is a way to get, markdown content
39 00:03:52.290 ⇒ 00:03:58.279 Mustafa Raja: … from… Copilot, UI kit. If that
40 00:03:58.950 ⇒ 00:04:02.179 Mustafa Raja: Works, we should be able to do the headings.
41 00:04:02.340 ⇒ 00:04:07.659 Mustafa Raja: But this is something that was important to interlude people. Now, how important it is, I don’t know.
42 00:04:11.240 ⇒ 00:04:13.659 Mustafa Raja: Meaning, I don’t know if it’s a deal-breaker or something.
43 00:04:14.430 ⇒ 00:04:15.969 Rico Rejoso: Okay, okay, I got you.
44 00:04:16.390 ⇒ 00:04:20.910 Rico Rejoso: And you haven’t gotten any response from Sam yet, or confirmation?
45 00:04:21.440 ⇒ 00:04:26.369 Mustafa Raja: No. I think we have to also include, Utham and Luke for this.
46 00:04:26.680 ⇒ 00:04:37.619 Rico Rejoso: Okay, no worries. I think Sam will directly inform Putin regarding that, so let’s just wait for a minute. But if Sam doesn’t respond, like, within the day, I don’t know, have you talked to Sam yet today?
47 00:04:38.630 ⇒ 00:04:42.439 Mustafa Raja: Regarding this, Interlude project? No.
48 00:04:42.440 ⇒ 00:04:46.840 Rico Rejoso: Okay, so let’s ask confirmation. What ticket was that? Sorry, the one you’re pertaining to?
49 00:04:46.840 ⇒ 00:04:51.730 Mustafa Raja: It, it can, into two, in review.
50 00:04:52.530 ⇒ 00:04:53.230 Rico Rejoso: Go….
51 00:04:53.410 ⇒ 00:04:54.370 Mustafa Raja: It’s in review.
52 00:04:54.970 ⇒ 00:04:56.969 Rico Rejoso: If you scroll up? This one, right?
53 00:04:57.980 ⇒ 00:04:58.950 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, this one.
54 00:04:58.950 ⇒ 00:05:04.029 Rico Rejoso: Okay, I’ll tag Sam on the follow-up later on, okay?
55 00:05:04.500 ⇒ 00:05:05.820 Rico Rejoso: So, basically, we just need to.
56 00:05:05.820 ⇒ 00:05:13.040 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, just a follow-up, if we should use, … Copilot UI kit.
57 00:05:14.030 ⇒ 00:05:18.169 Rico Rejoso: We can… Do you use Copilot? What was the other one? Sorry.
58 00:05:18.170 ⇒ 00:05:20.540 Mustafa Raja: Copilot UI Kit.
59 00:05:20.730 ⇒ 00:05:21.640 Rico Rejoso: UI kit.
60 00:05:21.810 ⇒ 00:05:22.440 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
61 00:05:23.330 ⇒ 00:05:24.210 Rico Rejoso: Oh, okay.
62 00:05:25.440 ⇒ 00:05:27.730 Rico Rejoso: profile, follow up. I’ll follow up later by end.
63 00:05:27.730 ⇒ 00:05:35.260 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so what Copilot UI kit is a chat interface that’s not going to live within the Slack.
64 00:05:36.440 ⇒ 00:05:38.059 Rico Rejoso: Okay, I got you.
65 00:05:39.770 ⇒ 00:05:50.140 Rico Rejoso: I’ll… I mean, no worries, I can, like, tag some later on today and ask feedback regarding this one, so you can just focus on things that you’re working on with right now, okay?
66 00:05:50.140 ⇒ 00:05:51.270 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
67 00:05:51.540 ⇒ 00:05:56.610 Rico Rejoso: Okay, wonderful. So, some of those have priorities set already, I think, by Sam.
68 00:05:56.610 ⇒ 00:05:59.330 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, let’s… let’s look into the tickets.
69 00:05:59.630 ⇒ 00:06:00.400 Rico Rejoso: Okay, yeah.
70 00:06:00.980 ⇒ 00:06:06.189 Rico Rejoso: How about this one? Do you think it’s high, low, medium priority to interconnect?
71 00:06:06.940 ⇒ 00:06:12.039 Mustafa Raja: Inter-28, implement message thread tracking. We are already doing this.
72 00:06:12.570 ⇒ 00:06:14.519 Rico Rejoso: Okay, so this is either a duplicate.
73 00:06:14.520 ⇒ 00:06:18.499 Mustafa Raja: We can duplicate it, yeah, with the, intertool.
74 00:06:18.920 ⇒ 00:06:20.970 Rico Rejoso: Okay, so let me just put it under….
75 00:06:20.970 ⇒ 00:06:36.690 Mustafa Raja: Because from this, what I understand is we need to see where in the thread we are, and if we are recording the feedback, and based on the feedback, the ticket is getting updated, sorry, the deck is getting updated, I guess this is what, thread tracking would be.
76 00:06:37.180 ⇒ 00:06:38.420 Rico Rejoso: Okay, I got it.
77 00:06:38.690 ⇒ 00:06:39.519 Rico Rejoso: Manual with it.
78 00:06:39.520 ⇒ 00:06:42.179 Mustafa Raja: Synthetic… yeah, we are already doing this.
79 00:06:42.690 ⇒ 00:06:44.770 Rico Rejoso: We should cancel this one.
80 00:06:45.040 ⇒ 00:06:46.659 Rico Rejoso: Alrighty, canceled this one.
81 00:06:46.660 ⇒ 00:06:50.659 Mustafa Raja: Because this isn’t a duplicate, it’s just how we work.
82 00:06:52.210 ⇒ 00:06:59.749 Mustafa Raja: Retry and queuing logic. Now, this is something I would need some context on.
83 00:07:00.000 ⇒ 00:07:04.919 Mustafa Raja: what… what does this really mean? T trying, queuing logic?
84 00:07:05.220 ⇒ 00:07:15.700 Mustafa Raja: I guess it’s something that, if a response gets fa… if the agent doesn’t even respond us, which really hasn’t been the case yet.
85 00:07:16.040 ⇒ 00:07:19.769 Mustafa Raja: So it’s something that, that’s going to come up, ….
86 00:07:19.990 ⇒ 00:07:21.140 Rico Rejoso: Along with the tests, right?
87 00:07:21.140 ⇒ 00:07:26.220 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, along with the test, saw when, when they test it.
88 00:07:26.830 ⇒ 00:07:27.510 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
89 00:07:27.990 ⇒ 00:07:30.480 Rico Rejoso: So, this is, like, precautionary actions.
90 00:07:30.770 ⇒ 00:07:34.789 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, what we can do is we can put it in backlog.
91 00:07:35.040 ⇒ 00:07:35.690 Rico Rejoso: Gotcha.
92 00:07:37.230 ⇒ 00:07:38.819 Rico Rejoso: We haven’t got anything yet from them.
93 00:07:38.820 ⇒ 00:07:43.690 Mustafa Raja: Or a backlog already for development, any of those would work.
94 00:07:44.000 ⇒ 00:07:44.710 Rico Rejoso: I’m sorry?
95 00:07:45.060 ⇒ 00:07:52.130 Mustafa Raja: I’m saying either backlog or ready for development for that particular one. Whatever you feel good about, we can do that.
96 00:07:52.560 ⇒ 00:07:57.370 Rico Rejoso: Let’s put it in backlog first, until we get any information from either Sam or Tom, okay?
97 00:07:57.640 ⇒ 00:07:58.370 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
98 00:07:58.470 ⇒ 00:07:59.140 Rico Rejoso: Alright.
99 00:07:59.140 ⇒ 00:07:59.810 Mustafa Raja: How about you?
100 00:07:59.810 ⇒ 00:08:00.480 Rico Rejoso: open one.
101 00:08:02.880 ⇒ 00:08:08.020 Mustafa Raja: There’s all open questions on brain mode. Yeah, this is something that we need feedback on first.
102 00:08:08.340 ⇒ 00:08:08.840 Rico Rejoso: Order.
103 00:08:08.840 ⇒ 00:08:13.290 Mustafa Raja: Because, we really do not have any feedback.
104 00:08:13.290 ⇒ 00:08:14.869 Rico Rejoso: For the testing process?
105 00:08:15.740 ⇒ 00:08:21.240 Mustafa Raja: I wouldn’t say this is part of testing. It’s when we deliver it to them.
106 00:08:21.360 ⇒ 00:08:28.820 Mustafa Raja: And they look into it, and they say, okay, this isn’t… this particular part isn’t so good, this particular part isn’t so good.
107 00:08:30.000 ⇒ 00:08:30.630 Rico Rejoso: I’m kidding.
108 00:08:30.890 ⇒ 00:08:32.810 Rico Rejoso: Is it part of the human interview?
109 00:08:35.429 ⇒ 00:08:37.159 Mustafa Raja: I wouldn’t say….
110 00:08:37.380 ⇒ 00:08:39.579 Rico Rejoso: So, yeah, it’s like a second return, right?
111 00:08:39.809 ⇒ 00:08:43.529 Rico Rejoso: After the HITL, and make revisions, adjustments, you get back to you.
112 00:08:43.539 ⇒ 00:08:44.419 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
113 00:08:44.729 ⇒ 00:08:51.809 Mustafa Raja: Okay, so this relates more towards the brand voice. This can be the format of the deck.
114 00:08:52.379 ⇒ 00:08:54.969 Mustafa Raja: If we want to say it that way.
115 00:08:55.470 ⇒ 00:08:58.439 Rico Rejoso: But you have the idea on how this works, or how you can….
116 00:08:58.440 ⇒ 00:09:12.549 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, the overall consensus for me on this is that they really did not have any, input for us regarding the brand voice. It was just.
117 00:09:12.980 ⇒ 00:09:15.009 Mustafa Raja: Mostly… mostly for…
118 00:09:16.370 ⇒ 00:09:25.459 Mustafa Raja: the format of the deck, that was being published in, Notion, which pretty much is fixed.
119 00:09:25.680 ⇒ 00:09:26.800 Mustafa Raja: …
120 00:09:27.000 ⇒ 00:09:35.209 Mustafa Raja: Is that the… is that the… since now we are adding a layer of slack over it, that is… that is creating some issue?
121 00:09:35.440 ⇒ 00:09:38.570 Mustafa Raja: For that, we’ll have to mitigate, slack.
122 00:09:38.780 ⇒ 00:09:39.640 Mustafa Raja: Or….
123 00:09:39.640 ⇒ 00:09:40.139 Rico Rejoso: Look for someone.
124 00:09:40.140 ⇒ 00:09:40.890 Mustafa Raja: workaround.
125 00:09:41.910 ⇒ 00:09:48.779 Rico Rejoso: Okay, gotcha. And if we, like, implement this one, you know, this is… is this, like, a high priority, low, medium?
126 00:09:49.290 ⇒ 00:09:52.110 Mustafa Raja: This is something that, …
127 00:09:52.240 ⇒ 00:10:00.300 Mustafa Raja: we will have… we will cater to this once we have some sort of feedback from InterludeP.
128 00:10:00.300 ⇒ 00:10:02.119 Rico Rejoso: Okay, let’s put it on backlog first.
129 00:10:03.560 ⇒ 00:10:04.809 Rico Rejoso: How about Inter-14?
130 00:10:05.080 ⇒ 00:10:06.549 Rico Rejoso: Dependencies and ocean.
131 00:10:06.550 ⇒ 00:10:12.250 Mustafa Raja: Automate task dependencies… yeah, this one has to be ready for development.
132 00:10:13.050 ⇒ 00:10:20.360 Mustafa Raja: I really didn’t take a look at this, and haven’t gotten any response from Utamones on it, so….
133 00:10:23.260 ⇒ 00:10:30.000 Rico Rejoso: I’m also curious, like, how long it will take, you know, because supposedly this is the final week for Interlude, right? And since Matt.
134 00:10:30.000 ⇒ 00:10:30.630 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
135 00:10:30.630 ⇒ 00:10:32.179 Rico Rejoso: I haven’t gotten feedback yet.
136 00:10:34.220 ⇒ 00:10:34.770 Rico Rejoso: Right.
137 00:10:34.770 ⇒ 00:10:35.590 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
138 00:10:37.800 ⇒ 00:10:41.440 Mustafa Raja: Architecture, this should be low priority.
139 00:10:41.700 ⇒ 00:10:42.890 Rico Rejoso: low priority.
140 00:10:43.570 ⇒ 00:10:44.300 Rico Rejoso: My bad.
141 00:10:45.450 ⇒ 00:10:48.619 Rico Rejoso: No priority, and for Inter 19?
142 00:10:50.980 ⇒ 00:10:54.630 Mustafa Raja: Validate function, non-functional requirements.
143 00:10:55.460 ⇒ 00:11:02.399 Mustafa Raja: Mmm… I mean, let’s keep it low.
144 00:11:02.690 ⇒ 00:11:03.770 Rico Rejoso: No, gotcha.
145 00:11:03.770 ⇒ 00:11:04.530 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
146 00:11:04.530 ⇒ 00:11:05.280 Rico Rejoso: internet.
147 00:11:07.760 ⇒ 00:11:14.400 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’ve… for this, I did send it, along to Matt, in math.
148 00:11:14.400 ⇒ 00:11:16.109 Rico Rejoso: I also recalled this one.
149 00:11:16.280 ⇒ 00:11:20.099 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so I don’t know if we need to do something special for this.
150 00:11:20.510 ⇒ 00:11:23.110 Rico Rejoso: The… do you think it’s done already?
151 00:11:23.930 ⇒ 00:11:26.230 Rico Rejoso: I think they’re willing-specific credit.
152 00:11:26.560 ⇒ 00:11:31.599 Rico Rejoso: limit that was provided before. Is that correct?
153 00:11:32.500 ⇒ 00:11:34.020 Mustafa Raja: …
154 00:11:37.190 ⇒ 00:11:44.089 Mustafa Raja: So this is credit spend observability for agent. And I did send Loom to math.
155 00:11:44.190 ⇒ 00:11:45.610 Rico Rejoso: ….
156 00:11:45.610 ⇒ 00:11:51.449 Mustafa Raja: To, to explain how he can monitor how much
157 00:11:51.630 ⇒ 00:11:55.079 Mustafa Raja: Credits, the agent has been consuming.
158 00:11:55.620 ⇒ 00:11:59.199 Mustafa Raja: So, do we… do we need to do any other action on this?
159 00:11:59.710 ⇒ 00:12:05.559 Rico Rejoso: I think not. You already proposed a solution for it, right? On how they can monitor the credit spending.
160 00:12:05.560 ⇒ 00:12:06.390 Mustafa Raja: Yeah…
161 00:12:07.730 ⇒ 00:12:20.009 Mustafa Raja: Okay. We can put it in review and say in the comment that Alume was sent to Matthew, on how he can check how much credits the agent is consuming.
162 00:12:27.630 ⇒ 00:12:30.510 Mustafa Raja: And then put it to review for Uttoman.
163 00:12:32.650 ⇒ 00:12:35.779 Rico Rejoso: On how to… what was that? Monitor.
164 00:12:36.070 ⇒ 00:12:40.749 Mustafa Raja: Monitor credits spent By the agent so far.
165 00:12:43.160 ⇒ 00:12:46.860 Rico Rejoso: Okay, let me just click here and put it on review.
166 00:12:47.320 ⇒ 00:12:48.030 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
167 00:12:48.210 ⇒ 00:12:49.139 Rico Rejoso: They’re gonna be me.
168 00:12:53.340 ⇒ 00:12:55.760 Rico Rejoso: Okay, last one, Inter9.
169 00:12:56.970 ⇒ 00:12:58.030 Rico Rejoso: Help me just quote.
170 00:12:58.030 ⇒ 00:13:01.760 Mustafa Raja: Too vague. It’s too vague. We should cancel it, or….
171 00:13:01.760 ⇒ 00:13:02.440 Rico Rejoso: Yeah.
172 00:13:02.440 ⇒ 00:13:02.990 Mustafa Raja: Something.
173 00:13:03.450 ⇒ 00:13:04.949 Rico Rejoso: I think you’re done with this, right?
174 00:13:04.950 ⇒ 00:13:09.420 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I don’t know what we are calling Agent V0.1.
175 00:13:09.660 ⇒ 00:13:18.730 Mustafa Raja: But it mostly makes sense that this, human-in-the-loop layer, with the feedback things and all, should be it.
176 00:13:19.980 ⇒ 00:13:31.029 Rico Rejoso: Gotcha. So, for now, we have the following here. So, since ready for development and back level can just stay put for this one. I’ll remove the due date for this, but for the other one, I think…
177 00:13:31.190 ⇒ 00:13:36.279 Rico Rejoso: This is still on queue for the current cycle.
178 00:13:36.650 ⇒ 00:13:41.570 Rico Rejoso: What is the cycle problem, which… One week later.
179 00:13:41.690 ⇒ 00:13:43.380 Rico Rejoso: So, up until today.
180 00:13:43.630 ⇒ 00:13:46.170 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it’s going to be only this day.
181 00:13:46.320 ⇒ 00:13:50.869 Rico Rejoso: Okay, yeah, but since it’s still on backlog, probably the to-dos…
182 00:13:51.080 ⇒ 00:13:57.259 Rico Rejoso: ticket will be moved to the next cycle. You’re still working on this one. Can you tell me, like, how, …
183 00:13:59.750 ⇒ 00:14:02.900 Rico Rejoso: This is… is this manageable to be finished today?
184 00:14:03.050 ⇒ 00:14:03.600 Rico Rejoso: What do you think?
185 00:14:03.600 ⇒ 00:14:05.239 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I can look into this.
186 00:14:05.420 ⇒ 00:14:13.170 Rico Rejoso: Okay, gotcha. And for the rest of the stuff here, let’s just put an estimate to it, okay? Just let me know what’s the estimate point for N326.
187 00:14:13.620 ⇒ 00:14:15.350 Mustafa Raja: Let’s do two.
188 00:14:15.660 ⇒ 00:14:16.889 Rico Rejoso: 2 points, okay?
189 00:14:18.550 ⇒ 00:14:19.510 Rico Rejoso: 27.
190 00:14:21.980 ⇒ 00:14:27.400 Mustafa Raja: Store… base, store approval, revision, decision logs.
191 00:14:29.730 ⇒ 00:14:32.429 Mustafa Raja: 426, let’s do 1.
192 00:14:33.010 ⇒ 00:14:33.730 Rico Rejoso: 1.
193 00:14:33.730 ⇒ 00:14:35.469 Mustafa Raja: And for 27, let’s do 2.
194 00:14:35.790 ⇒ 00:14:36.390 Rico Rejoso: Okay.
195 00:14:38.310 ⇒ 00:14:39.240 Rico Rejoso: Next one.
196 00:14:40.240 ⇒ 00:14:44.710 Mustafa Raja: Wind alert, notion push failure.
197 00:14:45.540 ⇒ 00:14:46.900 Mustafa Raja: Waterloo person.
198 00:14:48.540 ⇒ 00:14:50.899 Mustafa Raja: We can achieve one for this.
199 00:14:51.220 ⇒ 00:14:54.559 Mustafa Raja: Although I’m not sure if we need this, because notion failure…
200 00:14:55.320 ⇒ 00:14:57.070 Mustafa Raja: I don’t think it’s going to happen.
201 00:14:57.660 ⇒ 00:15:00.239 Rico Rejoso: Okay, let’s put it on standby and confirm with.
202 00:15:00.240 ⇒ 00:15:05.060 Mustafa Raja: Retry and delaying for Notion Push failures.
203 00:15:06.230 ⇒ 00:15:08.599 Mustafa Raja: Let’s do one over here, too.
204 00:15:11.700 ⇒ 00:15:13.939 Rico Rejoso: migrate Slackbot into aid.
205 00:15:15.520 ⇒ 00:15:21.269 Mustafa Raja: Hmm… And this, this, I feel, … And let’s do 0.
206 00:15:23.370 ⇒ 00:15:24.510 Rico Rejoso: There’s no sort.
207 00:15:24.750 ⇒ 00:15:26.060 Mustafa Raja: Oh, there’s no zero.
208 00:15:26.060 ⇒ 00:15:28.280 Rico Rejoso: That’s typical. No, I can… I can adjust that.
209 00:15:28.280 ⇒ 00:15:30.250 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, that’s one of them.
210 00:15:31.910 ⇒ 00:15:32.990 Rico Rejoso: How about inter-20?
211 00:15:34.230 ⇒ 00:15:35.539 Mustafa Raja: Architecture one.
212 00:15:37.620 ⇒ 00:15:38.610 Rico Rejoso: Yeah, internet?
213 00:15:38.610 ⇒ 00:15:39.730 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, what?
214 00:15:42.060 ⇒ 00:15:42.950 Rico Rejoso: Alrighty.
215 00:15:43.500 ⇒ 00:15:50.280 Rico Rejoso: Okay, that sums up everything. I’ll be just removing the due date for the backlog stuff.
216 00:16:05.920 ⇒ 00:16:07.420 Rico Rejoso: This one’s zero.
217 00:16:08.960 ⇒ 00:16:10.750 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
218 00:16:10.750 ⇒ 00:16:11.349 Rico Rejoso: Oh, good.
219 00:16:11.510 ⇒ 00:16:15.630 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, 0 is for, when it takes less than 2 hours, but….
220 00:16:15.630 ⇒ 00:16:17.969 Rico Rejoso: Right? You work class, you work class.
221 00:16:19.480 ⇒ 00:16:27.999 Mustafa Raja: I, I just feel that, 0 is… I feel 0 is in ABC, I, I don’t know why it’s not, not over here, though.
222 00:16:28.000 ⇒ 00:16:29.560 Rico Rejoso: Let me add it, Madison.
223 00:16:29.710 ⇒ 00:16:30.550 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.
224 00:16:32.950 ⇒ 00:16:33.589 Rico Rejoso: Don’t miss….
225 00:16:33.590 ⇒ 00:16:37.659 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, because I saw that we changed how we do estimates now.
226 00:16:39.180 ⇒ 00:16:40.900 Rico Rejoso: Okay, zero. Got it.
227 00:16:42.120 ⇒ 00:16:45.510 Rico Rejoso: Okay, so for this one, I’ll be moving it to the next icon.
228 00:16:46.250 ⇒ 00:16:48.369 Rico Rejoso: Sorry, moving into the next cycle, and we’ll.
229 00:16:48.370 ⇒ 00:16:48.930 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
230 00:16:48.930 ⇒ 00:16:50.320 Rico Rejoso: Peter Sandler would come.
231 00:16:50.620 ⇒ 00:16:54.979 Rico Rejoso: Inter-27 is what… Inter-27 is what we need to….
232 00:16:54.980 ⇒ 00:17:02.869 Mustafa Raja: confirm on… we can say that, if we are supposed to move away from Slack.
233 00:17:03.080 ⇒ 00:17:04.530 Mustafa Raja: We really don’t need this.
234 00:17:06.339 ⇒ 00:17:09.959 Rico Rejoso: Okay, we’ll confirm with Sam once we have him on.
235 00:17:09.960 ⇒ 00:17:10.290 Mustafa Raja: Hmm.
236 00:17:10.290 ⇒ 00:17:11.939 Rico Rejoso: Within the meeting as well, okay?
237 00:17:12.470 ⇒ 00:17:13.230 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
238 00:17:14.069 ⇒ 00:17:14.829 Rico Rejoso: And this….
239 00:17:15.079 ⇒ 00:17:20.689 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, and for Slack decision, I would say that we need to, loop in Utam on that, too.
240 00:17:20.910 ⇒ 00:17:21.650 Rico Rejoso: Which one?
241 00:17:21.839 ⇒ 00:17:29.219 Mustafa Raja: for the Slack decision, if we are going to stay on Slack or not, the one that we need Sam’s review on.
242 00:17:29.329 ⇒ 00:17:34.249 Mustafa Raja: I’d say we need to also, double-check it with Utam.
243 00:17:34.470 ⇒ 00:17:35.180 Rico Rejoso: Okay.
244 00:17:35.180 ⇒ 00:17:38.699 Mustafa Raja: Because, yeah, yeah, we really….
245 00:17:39.240 ⇒ 00:17:40.270 Rico Rejoso: 27.
246 00:17:42.530 ⇒ 00:17:46.720 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, the, the, … Can you open up Intra 2?
247 00:17:47.210 ⇒ 00:17:48.010 Rico Rejoso: And third group.
248 00:17:48.480 ⇒ 00:17:49.449 Rico Rejoso: Oh, this one.
249 00:17:50.980 ⇒ 00:17:52.170 Rico Rejoso: follow up with South African.
250 00:17:52.170 ⇒ 00:17:55.220 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, follow-up. This follow-up, I’m talking about this follow-up.
251 00:17:55.220 ⇒ 00:17:56.500 Rico Rejoso: Oh, okay, yeah, I’m sorry.
252 00:18:01.180 ⇒ 00:18:03.939 Rico Rejoso: And I also tagged Uptam regarding this one, okay?
253 00:18:04.440 ⇒ 00:18:05.230 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
254 00:18:06.280 ⇒ 00:18:08.480 Rico Rejoso: So, I’ll be following up with the board of them.
255 00:18:09.370 ⇒ 00:18:16.269 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, and if we can mention the issue, the issue is that the headings will not be pushed to
256 00:18:16.770 ⇒ 00:18:17.810 Mustafa Raja: a notion.
257 00:18:18.140 ⇒ 00:18:21.029 Mustafa Raja: Now, do we need a workaround for that?
258 00:18:21.630 ⇒ 00:18:26.899 Mustafa Raja: Or are we going to go with Copilot, Copilot UI?
259 00:18:28.070 ⇒ 00:18:34.710 Rico Rejoso: So maybe, let’s just do a follow-up, asking if we can use Copilot UI key. What was the issue again? Sorry, if you can repeat.
260 00:18:34.710 ⇒ 00:18:43.569 Mustafa Raja: The issue is that, since we are now adding a layer of Slack over the decks, Slack doesn’t allow headings.
261 00:18:43.570 ⇒ 00:19:01.430 Mustafa Raja: Now, since, we are using Slack, as a source of truth, or, or our communication, method, what happens is we really don’t know which, which statement is a heading and which statement is just normal.
262 00:19:01.430 ⇒ 00:19:07.019 Mustafa Raja: Bold statement. Because of this confusion, we really…
263 00:19:07.070 ⇒ 00:19:11.260 Mustafa Raja: cannot, add headings, to the notion.
264 00:19:11.610 ⇒ 00:19:14.409 Rico Rejoso: So, okay, so our option is either we…
265 00:19:15.000 ⇒ 00:19:18.510 Rico Rejoso: Use Copilot UI key, that’s the only option we have.
266 00:19:19.350 ⇒ 00:19:32.639 Mustafa Raja: That’s actually not the only option, but the option we are trying to adopt for internal platform that we have, and since we are using it for that, it makes sense that we use it for our clients too.
267 00:19:33.510 ⇒ 00:19:35.930 Rico Rejoso: Gotcha. So it’s just, you know, ….
268 00:19:35.930 ⇒ 00:19:53.730 Mustafa Raja: And the other thing would be that maybe there could be some sort of formatting thing that I can do, in Slack that will allow me to identify, if this is a heading or not, but obviously then,
269 00:19:53.810 ⇒ 00:19:59.270 Mustafa Raja: Those identifiers would be available in Slack, Deck 2.
270 00:20:00.590 ⇒ 00:20:05.309 Rico Rejoso: We don’t take up much of your time, just to, you know, get the working.
271 00:20:05.840 ⇒ 00:20:06.330 Rico Rejoso: Cassidy.
272 00:20:06.330 ⇒ 00:20:13.740 Mustafa Raja: I don’t think so it should take… I don’t think it would take too much of a time, it should… it should be around, one estimate point.
273 00:20:14.530 ⇒ 00:20:17.780 Rico Rejoso: Okay. But let’s just follow up first with Sam.
274 00:20:17.780 ⇒ 00:20:19.520 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, we need to follow up.
275 00:20:19.520 ⇒ 00:20:27.579 Rico Rejoso: Okay, I’m just gonna state that the issue is Slack doesn’t allow heading, and, option… one option we can have is use Copilot UI kit, okay?
276 00:20:27.580 ⇒ 00:20:35.330 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, Slack doesn’t… Slack doesn’t allow headings, and so, from Slack, pushing to Notion, we don’t know which… which part is a heading.
277 00:20:39.120 ⇒ 00:20:39.820 Rico Rejoso: Naturally.
278 00:20:41.020 ⇒ 00:20:43.329 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I know it’s a little complex.
279 00:20:44.530 ⇒ 00:20:47.360 Rico Rejoso: I’m learning, I’m learning Mazappa, to be honest.
280 00:20:47.360 ⇒ 00:20:47.750 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
281 00:20:47.750 ⇒ 00:20:51.049 Rico Rejoso: He talks smart, so I’m learning a lot from you.
282 00:20:51.500 ⇒ 00:20:53.829 Mustafa Raja: I think I should be able to explain it.
283 00:20:53.960 ⇒ 00:20:55.940 Mustafa Raja: So I’m working on that, too.
284 00:20:56.120 ⇒ 00:21:00.849 Rico Rejoso: You’re a good communicator, to be honest, and, you know, I’m learning from you right now.
285 00:21:00.960 ⇒ 00:21:02.830 Rico Rejoso: My brain is working.
286 00:21:03.370 ⇒ 00:21:04.440 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, thank you.
287 00:21:05.070 ⇒ 00:21:08.340 Rico Rejoso: So I think we have everything set up here, this one is done.
288 00:21:08.910 ⇒ 00:21:09.240 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
289 00:21:09.240 ⇒ 00:21:17.249 Rico Rejoso: working. I just set it up for the next cycle, also, I think we’re good to go for now. Do you have any questions or anything that I can associate?
290 00:21:19.570 ⇒ 00:21:23.100 Mustafa Raja: … rarely know.
291 00:21:23.420 ⇒ 00:21:25.870 Mustafa Raja: Are you managing default now, too?
292 00:21:26.210 ⇒ 00:21:34.570 Rico Rejoso: Yeah, I’m still looking into default. It’s a bit confusing for default. Anything that you can advise to default, or, you know, update for default?
293 00:21:37.090 ⇒ 00:21:49.970 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, if you can tell me what you’re struggling with, or anything in terms of development side that I am responsible for, I can tell you anything that we’re working on.
294 00:21:50.250 ⇒ 00:21:57.089 Rico Rejoso: Oh, okay, so let me jot down the questions I have for default and send it to you via direct message, would that be fine?
295 00:21:57.090 ⇒ 00:22:03.200 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah. If needed, I can record a loom and, … Thank you so much.
296 00:22:03.350 ⇒ 00:22:06.809 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. You’re great, man, you’re so good. Thank you, thank you.
297 00:22:06.810 ⇒ 00:22:11.370 Rico Rejoso: Okay, yeah, I’ll list them some of the questions I have, so I can follow.
298 00:22:11.370 ⇒ 00:22:11.880 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.
299 00:22:11.880 ⇒ 00:22:16.120 Rico Rejoso: Fred, and, you know, I’ll hopefully get response from you.
300 00:22:16.120 ⇒ 00:22:27.649 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. I might be… I might be late… late to response today, since I’m very close to my end of day, so you might get a response on Monday, if…
301 00:22:27.800 ⇒ 00:22:31.610 Mustafa Raja: I’ll be offline when you send the questions.
302 00:22:31.850 ⇒ 00:22:35.540 Rico Rejoso: No worries, no worries. I’ll be, you know, I’ll be patiently waiting for your response.
303 00:22:35.540 ⇒ 00:22:36.440 Mustafa Raja: Okay, thank you so much.
304 00:22:36.440 ⇒ 00:22:41.770 Rico Rejoso: All right, thank you so much for that one staff. That’s it for me, okay. You have a wonderful day, and a happy weekend.
305 00:22:41.960 ⇒ 00:22:43.509 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, you too, happy weekend.
306 00:22:43.510 ⇒ 00:22:44.519 Rico Rejoso: Alright, thank you.
307 00:22:44.520 ⇒ 00:22:45.290 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, bye-bye.